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Living through that experience made me very frightened. Reality is being manhandled by media. Follow the money and follow the benefits and most people don’t even care….

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In this situation they were dammed if the do and dammed if they don’t.

Grimalot as you brought up provinciall issues

Mc Guinty, with and smitherman decided it was better for our healthcare to cover the costs of gender re assignment instead of insulin pumps. Just to name one act of self preservation for a gay health minister.

Iron Mike Harris let me see, he told Quebec construction officials that if Ontario workers were not allowed in Quebect to work he would put the kybosh on Quebecers coming into Ontario.
He asked for a reduction to pension plan payments and wanted to upgrade the education system. The only reason he lost out in the end is he pissed off all the liberal inbred positions. Same can be said for Harper just look at Jamie’s opinion for one somebody with actual leadership skills he considers a bully.

Oh and by the by Ontario construction workers under Mc Guinty have no support in Quebec anymore, however Quebecers can still come here and take out jobs. Liberal self serving democracy at its best

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We could do this here, but McGuinty wrote in a non cancellation clause, and if it does get cancelled if people tell McGuinty where to go, then we have to pay it back to the Cons.. that was the whole deal, both parties were just as complacent at putting this HST on us.

I don’t care for the Liberals either smee. Both parties have done their damages to the country.

I just want for everyone to have their true freedoms instead of this political guise of a stranglehold on us all. As I watch Harper flush more of our rights down the toilet, I don’t care who replaces him at about this point, so long as its not harper and his benign dictatorship that are in power.

We are living in dark times, the belt is tightening, and I don’t view either the cons or the libs as being able to save this country right now. I truly do see a revolt coming up in the near future if these governing bodies don’t start doing what they’re supposed to do, and that is WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE, NOT THEMSELVES, NOT FOR THE OIL COMPANIES, or BIG PHARMA!

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Do you not think the liberals spend the same on their watch dogs?. It allowed a government already in power and which is responsible for the scam to establish and operate the Gomery Commission. This was Jean Chretien. I wish I could hire and operate the judicial system if ever I was accused of a crime.

In your research regarding the discussion on bill c-36, I would suggest you review a little of Canada’s governing parties. History dictates each time we have economical melt down the liberals always leave the house and usually to a minority government. This allows them to maintian some control of when the next election will arise as well as eliminate any major change to government which would impeded their controls. When times and the economy improve they force another election and then accuse their predecessors of screwing everything up. They are the skiff ( look up what a skiff is all about) political party, they sail well in smooth inland waters , but when the storm arise usually turn turtle or head for shore.

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“Goods and Services Tax
The retooling of the Goods and Services Tax (GST). It was eventually replaced with the Harmonized Sales Tax in three Atlantic provinces. Chrétien claimed that the fiscal situation was far worse than expected. He knew the economic situation before the election yet still lied about the GST.”

GST, brought in by Mulroney (PC) is the only thing I point at Chretien for is not getting rid of it like he said he would. However, the HST applied on Ontario is truly the brainchild of Jim Flaherty, dangling the carrot in front of McGuinty and giving 4.3 billion dollars to the province of Ontario only if they (McGuinty) were to replace the GST with the HST instead. The only mistake McGuinty did was to apply it to so many things instead of telling Flaherty to go take a dump somewhere and not implementing the HST in the first place.. That’s what should have been done..

I also laugh at Harper’s promise to eliminate the GST when he knew that the HST would soon be applied to replace it instead. Harper looks like he lived by his promise, shaving 2% off the GST. (and about $1500 off the price of a Hummer), but then we got socked with the HST and Harper is laughing all the way to the banks and still trying to get his majority after breaking yet another promise of fixed elections, and still cannot manage to get a Majority after how many elections? He needs to go take a dump like Flaherty too.

Interesting, Alberta has no provincial sales tax, and they still pay GST, and in the meantime, due to Harper/Flaherty/McGuinty, Ontario gets socked with the HST, and there is talk about Alberta (Harper’s home) wanting to separate now instead of Quebec.. I wonder why?

And, getting back to “Fixed Election Dates” which Harper promised and broke, if Harper and the Oil Industry truly had their way, elections would really be “fixed!”

smee said:

“Sponsorship Scandal
Which involved hundreds of millions of dollars distributed from the Prime Minister’s Office to Quebec’s federalist and Liberal Party interests without much accountability.”

No, it involved 125 million approximately, of which only 34 or 39 (not sure) million was actually unaccounted for, and heads rolled for that (cannot say the same about anything conservative so far except for Helena Guergis and her sad excuse of a coke sniffing, drunk driving, speedracing husband – which he got away with). 18 million a year for the Federal Integrity Watchdog (Catherine Ouimet who ran like a dog with her tail between her legs at the first sight of the Auditor General), 4 years into her 7 year mandate, with absolutely no findings of wrongdoing on the part of the government (who appointed her in the first place). 72 million spent on a department that was supposed to show us how transparent Harper’s government is. This alone seems to make ADSCAM pale in comparison – a department that our money was blown on that returned absolutely NOTHING. In the meantime, ADSCAM or what little unaccountable part of it there is, at least held our country together… At least that was the whole point to that spending in the first place. The ADSCAM scandal also happened to be brought to the public’s attention by Paul Martin (A Liberal).

Quite frankly, any money spent on that “Appointed Watchdog – appointed (another broken promise)” should immediately be paid back to the country and everyone should get a bonus on their income tax or something. Harper should be personally apologizing for her actions to all of Canada… Yet watch, she’ll get away with it, and its people like you smee and Harper, that will let it happen, and continue to point fingers at the Lefties as usual.

I did however enjoy your response to Bill C-36, but didn’t have time to comment on it. It was much more detailed then what anyone else has pointed out about it and I am researching the details of that posting. Thanks for that

Quite personally, at this point, there are all sorts of wrongdoings on all parts of government over the past years. WE, the people of Canada, let our government walk all over us. The 2 major parties both do it, that can be agreed upon, and they both have different ways of covering things up in the name of the better good for Canada. We should turf all these bozo’s, and get some truly progressive people, actually working for the people of this country. But alas, that would be too Robin Hood-esque, and unfortunately with the massive social engineering hack and how complacent our Canadian civilization has become, how will the people of this country take our country back? I truly wonder if there will be some sort of revolution in the near future when all the people of Canada say “f-that, we’re taking our country back!”

And still, regardless of this all, Merry Christmas smee..

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Not having a viable second choice is a part for some voters, however, perhaps people are stating notice where additional tax requests start…..and that push for bilingual supreme court justices and the police along the entire trans Canada being bilingual…..

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for the same exact reason Mr. Harper is still in charge of the Conservatives when not too many of them think he’ll ever win a majority.

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