No Means No. Guy Lauzon and the Harper Government Refuse to Listen to the People of Canada on the Gun Registry – Editorial by Jamie Gilcig – Cornwall Ontario – September 27, 2010

No Means No.  Guy Lauzon and the Harper Government Refuse to Listen to the People of Canada on the Gun Registry – Editorial by Jamie Gilcig – Cornwall Ontario – September 27, 2010

Cornwall ON – Our MP, Guy Lauzon was on a Cornwall radio station pigeoning the position that the Conservative government will not give up and “some day get rid of the wasteful gun registry.”

To you sir I say someday we’ll get rid of the wasteful Harper government and yourself.

You and Mr. Harper are as bad as the Seperatists.   How many times does no mean no?

The Canadian people have clearly spoken, and maybe its time that issues like Jobs, the economy, hospitals & healthcare, real crime like fraud which cause much more harm than the type your government wants to build jails for; and accountability for politicians like yourself that abuse your positions of power?

You send out mailings talking about listening to the public.  What about the 50+%  of voters in this riding that didn’t vote for you or support Mr. Harper?

No means No Guy.  Learn it; love it; live it.

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The Watcher
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During the gun registry vote, Harper was in New York City, representing Canada at the United Nations. He flew back to Ottawa specially to vote for the abolition of the registry, then flew back to New York again, presumably with his security people and his staff. How much did this cost the Canadian Taxpayer?

willie191
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The reason why people don’t vote is for reasons such as this. Politicians just do what is best for them. Their job is to get re-elected and support the caucus.

smee
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How would removing the registry help? I mean I do not support the registry but how much would it cost to decomission?

Destructo
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The problem is, you all think we live in a democracy. This is clearly not the case. When MP’s are compelled to vote following party lines, as opposed to representing their constituents, the voice of the people goes unheard. No one party can be held responsible; it is a failing of the system, and just one of many. This gun registry battle has gone on for ten years now, with no end in sight. It has created a rift between the right and the left all across the country despite the fact the majority of citizens don’t truly understand how… Read more »
smee
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well said destructo, there is more truth in your post then people could ever imagine

Susan Russell
Guest
I agree that “No” does actually mean “No”. I say “Yes” to getting rid of the bully-boy tactics of the of the NRA and the Harper Government. Talk about being a sore loser! Good for those MPs who actually listened and were brave enough to vote in favour of the registry. I wish that people would actually read the facts from the Chiefs of Police and front-line workers and learn to live with the idea that Gun Control is another weapon that keeps them and us safer. No one is taking away the right to own a gun. We register… Read more »
PJ Robertson
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Good comment, Jamie; good posts, all. Canada is at last taking the measure of the Harper yo-yos. The long-gun registry a waste, Mr. Lauzon? Tell that to the RCMP, the police chiefs, and the families of the women gunned down by a long gun at the Ecole Polytechnique. If the long-gun registry helps to save a single life, it’s worth the cost. Idiot Conservatives: you want to talk about waste, look at the millions wasted on a fake lake etc at the G20 & G8; look at the billions proposed for unneeded prisons; and the billions more proposed for jet… Read more »
Grimalot
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Well said destructo… long ago we were not truly in a democracy. Then I listen to those that are unsatisfied that other parties whipped their party into voting to keep the registry, when its equally as bad for the conservatives to whip their party to vote against it.. The only party I have any respect for in that whole fiasco even though they suggested to keep the registry is the NDP. Is our current government following this action in order to cover something else bigger up, probably.. distraction so they can force something else through.. Guy Lauzon runs away at… Read more »
Stan
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When does No mean No? After the gun registry vote in Parliament, the PC’s went up a couple of points, the Liberals dropped a few points and the NDP went down to the Green Party level. Is that what the voice of Canada is saying “No” ???? Surely you jest Sir!

PJ Robertson
Member

Concerned Citizen: Who, pray, are the PCs?

Thebuckhunter
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This is the reason not to bother listening to the media. If you so called reporters actually FOLLOWED the actual first 2 readings of the bill, you would have noticed that the registry was going to fall. The Lieberals and the NDP, grossly mis-judged the public on this and allowed a “free vote” and actually allow the MP’s to represent their ridings. Once the first 2 votes were held, both opposition leaders quickly whipped their MP’s to follow party lines as the registry was going to fall. Both oppsition parties commited “political suicide” in doing so. Forcing their members to… Read more »
flick
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Grimalot, don’t be too naive about the NDP. The flip floppers were all well chosen for their ability to weather a voters storm; they all come from “safe” ridings that were won by large margins in the last election. Jack Layton only let the others off the hook because he had all the votes needed to get the fix in.

What happened to Democracy
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What happened to Democracy
Democracy and Liberals don’t mix. Whats the point of voting if they try to overturn what the public want’s anyway. In all the online polls and newspaper articles I have read the high majority of people want to scrap the expensive waste of time registry. The people have spoken but since the liberal leader did not like what they said he simply whips the vote. That should be illegal here in Canada. Members of parliament should not have to choose between there riding and there leader.I saw Justin Trudeau say that it doesn’t matter what we want they run this… Read more »
Marcel B.
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The useless long-gun registry WILL be removed. It has cost billions for no benefit whatsoever. Further money will be better spent on health care, women’s shelters and controlling/tracking real criminals. As to the comparison of registering cars to firearms, if your driver’s licence expires the police do not show up at your door to seize and destroy all your vehicles, you do not spend any time arrested and in jail, and you do not get a criminal record with a prohibition from owning any motor vehicles.This DOES happen to legal firearm owners. Didn’t know that, did you? In addition you… Read more »
Greg
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I can see why you’re a green party candidate. You live in a self-created world of delusion. The left is losing and Canadian left wing leadership ‘heads’ the list for worst candidates ever. See you at the polls.

srt4u2nv
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Got to love the Liberal posters talking about wasted money honestly who are you guys kidding?…Adscam, HST and Ehealth trump any frivolous spending the CPC has ever done. G8 and G20 meetings would have taken place no matter who was PM how much would the liberals have spent? they said the registry would only cost $2million and we are now at $2billion with less then 50% compliance and not a single life saved yet…….Yup that $1million on a fake lake is looking pretty good when it impressed foreign leaders who invest in our country and bring jobs here for Canadians….Honestly… Read more »
Reg
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I am getting sick and tired of hearing these gun slingers and neo-cons talking about “not a single life was saved”. How do you know? Has someone been counting the number of police of emergency service people who have not been killed? This “not a single life” BS sounds like an NRA and neo-con fairy tale that no one can prove or disprove. Let’s get real. the only reason to own a gun is to kill something or someone. The more we know about who has guns the better we can protect ourselves. By we I mean those of us… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member

On the subject of waste, facts for head-in-the-sand neo-Conservatives

Federal fiscal management since 1993:

–Mulroney Conservatives $42 billion deficit
–Chretien/Martin Liberals $16 billion surplus
–Harper Conservatives $54 billion deficit and counting

Cornwall Harry
Member

…..means that he didn’t steal it from Karl Heinz Schreiber, he was given it to represent a German supplier of armed vehicles. Period.

Frosty One
Guest

@ Reg

Gunslingers, neo-cons, and the NRA? Why is it when a liberal runs out of good arguments that he invokes the the blood curdling cry that the “NRA is coming”?

If a Conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one. When a Liberal doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t want anyone else to have one either.

srt4u2nv
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Reg…. seeing as the registry was brought in as a public safety tool it has to have a measurable effect on public safety if you cant actually list the lives saved then its poor public safety legislation pure and simple. Handguns have been registered here since the 1930’s but Gangsters and criminals in general still commit over 97% of their crimes with handguns….The registry was a knee jerk reaction to Polytechnique which was then followed by Dawson that’s after the registry came to be….but but but the registry is supposed to prevent violent use of firearms….Funny a list and a… Read more »
Joseph
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At least Super Guy has been consistent with his view on the long gun registry, Scrap It! We law abiding firearm owners will never give up until this wasteful, useless registry is gone. Most front line Officers 92% of them want it gone, look it up. The gun registries have not prevented any of the crimes listed, Dawson, Polytechnique, 4 RCMP Officers killed or any others in the future. Can you imagine if Dawson had an armed person/guard that could have defended the students, less students would have been injured or killed. Handguns have been registered and strictly controlled and… Read more »
srt4u2nv
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When Tory finance minister Michael Wilson and Mulroney left office some nine years later, the federal government had an operating surplus and the deficit as a percentage of GDP had been reduced by one-third, despite the worldwide recession of 1990-91. In other words, were it not for the interest Canada had to pay on the gargantuan debt the Liberals had solely created to that point, Mulroney would have been running a surplus. The Mulroney government slashed the rate of growth in program spending 70 per cent. In other words, instead of spending $1.23 for every one dollar collected in taxes,… Read more »
Reg
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Hey, who said I was a Liberal? I said that I was not a gun owner. Does that make me a liberal or just not a neo-con. I’ll have you know that in the past I have voted Progressive Conservative, NDP, Liberal, Great Rhinoceros Party, Natural Law Party and the Green Party. The NRA is on record as providing unspecified support for a pro-gun lobby group in Toronto. I was going to give a link to the article that traces the link but I think I will just use one of your gun totin tactics..”look it up”. I still stand… Read more »
Thebuckhunter
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@ Reg.
Yup, another lie by a Lieberal. The NRA is on record for SUPPORTING THE ABOLISHMENT of the long gun registry. Link here: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/13/canada-nra-gun-registry.html?ref=rss
I also have a great sense of humour. I just take exception to people lying and twisting the facts. The fact that the gun registry is NOT accurate and CANNOT be trusted by the very front line officers that use it speaks volumes. Link here: http://thesudburystar.com/Community/NewsDisplay.aspx?c=64288 Again, the FACTS… No need to “look it up”, I’ve done it for you.

-J

Frosty One
Guest

The NRA isn’t in Canada, Reg, but there are Canadians in the NRA, that’s the difference.

And you are right, knowledge is power. So for someone who doesn’t own any firearms to claim to be an expert on how they should be controlled, please, forgive my sense of humour.

I wouldn’t take driving lesson’s from a blind person either.

Reg
Guest

@ The Buckhunter

I do believe that you have made my point for me. The NRA is indeed involved in lobbying for the pro-gun / anti long gun registry.

Thank You

Reg
Guest

@ Frosty One

Boy you guys certainly like to read stuff that isn’t really there. No where did I say I was an expert on gun control, just that I think they should be controlled. I am not unfamiliar with weapons. In the infantry I was considered an expert with the FN C1 A1 7.62 mm rifle as well as the submachine gun, 50 calibre machine gun and an assortment of anti-tank weapons.

In civilian life I have chosen not to own a gun but am aware of what they are capable of.

Thebuckhunter
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Do you register your vehicle in the hopes of reducing drunk driving? Do you use a pencil in the hopes of reducing spelling mistakes? This is what you expect the rest of us to believe? In this country, there are NO PROPERTY RIGHTS in the constitution. Confiscation without compensation is happening everyday in this country. A line needs to be drawn and people have to stand up and fight for their rights. The gun owners of this country have taken up the fight so that everyone can benefit. This is what the anti-gun coalition doesn’t see. It’s not about the… Read more »
Thebuckhunter
Guest

@Reg.
And you don’t think that other countries aren’t involved in lobying the federal government for their own benefit? Explain the Avro Arrow… read your history books. It’s been going on for a hundred years. You definitely need a reality check.

-J

PJ Robertson
Member

“Harper forced by the threat of a separatist coup into the deficit we see today” –Wow, Srt4u2nv,even with your talent for self-persuasion what are you smoking?

Destructo
Member
“Do you register your vehicle in the hopes of reducing drunk driving? “…No, but registering my car certainly helps the police if my car was stolen and used in a crime. It gives them a starting point for an investigation. Registering our dogs helps if they get lost, or attack someone. I get it, the registry costs too much, and certainly has flaws. Is it not possible to save the registry, and come up with some sort of compromise? Can it not be fixed? There is certainly a need for a certain (small) portion of Canadians who have legitimate uses… Read more »
Reg
Guest

@ The Buckhunter

Are you saying that the NRA is a government? I’m sure the Americans would like to know about that.

PJ Robertson
Member

Excellent good sense, destructo!

Frosty One
Guest
@Reg I’d be the first person to thank you for your service to our country, but if you return home and tell me I need to give up my freedoms, sorry I wont buy it. Long walk, short peer, enjoy your trip! @destructo The compromise was the old FAC program, LICENSING, training and background checks. Every firearms owner was responsible to keep the information for themselves. The stores also kept records of sales. It worked. The police can still tie a firearms license to an address. The number of firearms at the address is as irrelevant as the number of… Read more »
srt4u2nv
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PJR where were you when the NDP, LIbs and Bloc threatened a coup if stimulus wasn’t included in the budget? under a rock?….honestly out of everything I posted the only thing you choose to refute is this?…..LMAO…. The NRA is forbidden from operating outside the USA by its Constitution look it up folks and in reality who cares? whats wrong with the NRA helping Canadian gun owners with tips and pointers being given to the CSSA?…Do you know who funds the Anti-Gun movement? NOT CANADIANS!….Ever hear of George Soros the US Billionaire? he spends hundreds of millions funding the anti… Read more »
Grimalot
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“What happened to Democracy says: September 28, 2010 at 10:39 pm Democracy and Liberals don’t mix. Whats the point of voting if they try to overturn what the public want’s anyway. In all the online polls and newspaper articles I have read the high majority of people want to scrap the expensive waste of time registry. The people have spoken but since the liberal leader did not like what they said he simply whips the vote. That should be illegal here in Canada. Members of parliament should not have to choose between there riding and there leader.I saw Justin Trudeau… Read more »
srt4u2nv
Guest
destructo the registry can not be fixed there is only a 45% compliance rate how do you fix that?….A list can not stop anyone from doing anything Dawson is the Proof. Handguns have been registered since the 1930’s but criminals still commit the majority of their crimes with handguns….Registering firearms of rather law abiding citizens focuses on the wrong people pure and simple criminals do not register and do not have licenses so by default the registry can not stop criminal use of firearms. The registry also does not tell you where the firearms are because you can lend and… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member

srt4u2nv: Good luck with your high-quality spin (“separatist coup” has now morphed to “NDP, Libs and Bloc threatened a coup”—coup being your inflammatory choice of word). It should open doors all the way to the current PMO. As for the rest of “everything [you] posted”, one untruth is enough to put the credibility of the rest in doubt.

Stan
Member

Grimalot, the only ones who were whipped by their party leaders were the Liberals. Jack let them vote with a “clear conscience” for or against…..but let it be known that he wanted the registry to stay. The Conservatives didn’t need whipping as they were all of a firm mind to get rid of that hole in the ground we call a gun registry. How many billions do you think its worth?

PJ Robertson
Member

Cojones Kid: Billions is stretching it, but if the registry saves one life (which could be someone dear to you), it’s worth the cost, don’t you think? The RCMP and Canada’s police chiefs would seem to think so.

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