Maverick South Stormont Deputy Mayor Tammy Hart Upset at French First St. Lawrence Park Sign in Long Sault Ontario – August 25, 2011

Maverick South Stormont Deputy Mayor Tammy Hart Upset at French First St. Lawrence Park Sign in Long Sault Ontario – August 25, 2011

Long Sault ON –   South Stormont Deputy Mayor Tammy Hart is drawing flack and praise for voicing out about new Bilingual signs at St. Lawrence Parks that are appearing; in particular the one in Long Sault Ontario at the Parkway entrance.

She contacted us after her statement started to appear in area media and we went out with ME 2 our JVC videocamera and chatted with the outspoken and rarely boring area politician.

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdqLG89ua1g

Chatting with Tammy she stated that it wasn’t a language issue, but more about jobs being available to non bilingual Ontario residents and area culture.

A bystander, someone working and camping from Sudbury, gave her a big thumbs up and we ended up interviewing him as well.

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBa3JJ8K74

What do you think?  You can post your comments below.

James Moak

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87 Comments on "Maverick South Stormont Deputy Mayor Tammy Hart Upset at French First St. Lawrence Park Sign in Long Sault Ontario – August 25, 2011"

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Anthony
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@Mike Bedard. Take a look at the picture at the top of the article. The spelling and grammer of the sign is NOT the problem. The middle area of the sign is 100% correct as the English and French as used in one continual sentence. However the top of the sign use two independant sentences.. “Les Parcs du Saint-Laurent” and ” Parks of the St. Lawrence”. Which one comes first on the sign?? Since the sign is in an English majority community the “Parks of the St. Lawrence” should be in the upper Left. as per the OLA and FIP.… Read more »
Anthony
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As for Graham Fraser’s language police… I wish to apply for the job of seeing how an English only Visitor to what is Quebec’s new national capital goes. Since Fraser is about BI lingualism … not just French in Ottawa… he needs to do the same study in the French national capital…Thats only to be fair. To be reasonable and use some common sense and stop wasting our tax dollars on crap… neither study should be done. Language belongs to the people not the government. If I choose to be English only, French only or learn 10 languages that is… Read more »
James Wolfe
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The great phony bilingual scam. Its all about jobs and money… The simple facts are as more francophone’s get hired for all government positions less and less English speakers are working for their own governments across the country. Don’t believe me; Go check the stats for yourself. Francophone’s are over-represented in all levels of government including hospitals, law, policing…etc. No fairness, no representation by population. They call it bilingualism, yet the term is never defined on purpose and believe me it doesn’t mean fluency in 2 languages in Canada, at least to the French it doesn’t. No political party will… Read more »
Mike Bedard
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Anthony: Watch the video! She has a problem with french on the sign period! She wants it “Small and at the bottom of the sign!” If you read my earlier post I agreed that the “Parks of St. Lawrence” and “Parcs du Saint Laurent” should be switched! However, the Middle is PERFECT if you don’t agree you are simply ignorant! Igonrant is not an insult so much as saying you are ignoring the fact that it is Grammatically Correct and like I said before OUR AREA IS BILUNGUAL! Within a 1 hour radius of Cornwall/Long Sault 40% people speak french… Read more »
Colleen McIntosh
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First of all my congratulations to Ms Tammy Hart for standing up for the overwhelmingly English majority of Canadian Citizens. The English are tired of the Liberal koolaide that insists we embrace French laguage, rights and heritage while simultaneously erasing and eradicating OUR rights, language and culture! Why should the English embrace French….we have our own identity!! Time to take a stand, write your MP’s and PM Harper. Demand an end to the discrimination of OB and OLA policies! Join the fight with “Canadians for Language Fairness” and “Howard Galganov”! All Canadians need to fight for our future. Canada is… Read more »
Grimalot
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Actually, neither french nor English are the majority languages anymore in Canada. Recently I heard that its actually Chinese or Arabian. If shunning the liberals would only fix this language issue, I would do so. But it wont fix this. Being an idiot and voting conservative will not fix this either. Harper will not fix this as it will alienate his party. The liberals won’t fix this and don’t have a chance to currently. Honestly, I’m waiting to see what is going to go on with the NDP in this matter since they are the new official opposition. The PQ… Read more »
Colleen McIntosh
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French speakers demand the English embrace French: language, culture and rights while the French erase and eradicate the English: language, rights and culture! English have their own identity and are not interested in emulating the French. There is no bigotry or racism in this statement it is only a statement of fact! If, the French are that interested, THEY, can save their own language and stop expecting the overwhelmingly English majority to pay the tab. Interesting many other groups maintain their languages and cultures in Canada without discriminating against the majority or with their hands out looking for more money/power.… Read more »
Furtz
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@ Colleen. Maybe a short-term low-dosage course of Paroxetine would help you overcome this anxiety. I can assure you that nobody has ever been damaged by the sight of French on a tourist sign, or the sound of French being spoken in public, or even learning the language. Getting all worked up like that over something as silly as a language spoken by others just isn’t healthy. Let’s all be grateful that we weren’t born in Afghanistan or Iraq or Libya where these matters are resolved with AK-47s or worse.

Kim Khoo
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Furtz, please stop patronizing Colleen. She is anxious because there are good reasons to be anxious about her right as an English-speaking person to fight against the Frenchification of Canada. Either you don’t notice that there is a power-shift from the majority English-speakers to the minority French-speakers or you are a beneficiary of that shift. Bilingual Canadians are in the minority so those who are bilingual want to hold on to their special status as they are in high demand. If you were less selfish and consider for even one minute the fact that “language” is replacing “merit” and that… Read more »
Colleen McIntosh
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Hello Furtz, Thank you so very much for your concerns for my health…how very thoughtful of you! Love your argument and totally agree with it but from my perspective I would say to you that the sight of an ALL English sign, listening to the English language, ensuring the English have the same/equal rights as the French, and learning/using the English language should not be that scary or threatening to the French, afterall they do live in an English World!!! Should be used to it, by now…wouldn’t you say. As the entire World embraces English for business, commerce and trading… Read more »
Furtz
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For the record, not that it really matters, I’m an Anglophone with a limited ability to speak French. Was born, raised and educated (sort of) in Quebec. In those days, the English schools made no serious attempt to teach conversational French. It wasn’t until I moved to Manitoba in the early 70s that learned how to speak any French from the friends I met there. There’s a pretty large francophone population in Manitoba. Regrettably, I’ve forgotten almost all of the French I learned since moving to eastern Ontario about thirty years ago. I still visit Montreal and area a few… Read more »
Kim Khoo
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One thing that people like Furtz don’t seem to understand i.e. when you get English service in Quebec, it is because of the principle of courtesy, something that some Quebecers still possess. They have NO legal obligation to serve you in any language other than French. Please don’t get the two situations confused. Yes, you grew up in Quebec and you are a victim of the Stockholm Syndrome which is a very common affliction for people who have decided that if they cannot beat them, they’ll join them!!! In the Rest (Most) of Canada, we’re not at that stage yet.… Read more »
Furtz
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So, I’m supposed to be ticked off because Quebec government agencies treated me with respect and in English, for the wrong reasons? I should have given those people a piece of my mind, but it’s too late now. It seems that a lot of people aren’t happy unless they are in conflict with one group or the other. Stupid, poor me! Here I am, enjoying my retirement, not fighting with anybody, and getting along with my English and French friends. I can even visit Quebec without getting all bent sideways and angry! How sick is that? Maybe I should get… Read more »
Lou F.W. Israel
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Furtz, not sure what stores YOU are patronizing but when I get served French first, I give the employee ONE CHANCE to serve me in MY language or I walk out of the store. I have been to court three times and twice NOT A WORD OF ENGLISH WAS SPOKEN to me. I have been yelled at by francophone store owners, basically demanding that I speak white in their “country”. And in the march for English rights (equal, not superior), just a few short months ago, we were yelled at, cursed, followed and threatened by a small but angry mob… Read more »
Furtz
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I must be special or something. The shops and restaurants I frequent are mostly on the West Island, or in the downtown area. The bars I infrequently enjoy are on Crescent Street. I usually say a few words in my mangled French and almost always the server or store employee switches to English. I’m not talking about MacDonalds or Walmart . I don’t go to Montreal to eat or buy garbage. I’m almost convinced that if you go into an establishment with your face in a knot expecting hostility, that’s what you’re gonna get. Making a little effort and being… Read more »
Barry Renouf
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Furtz, what I perceive from your answers is that you go to speed to Quebec, go to bars, eat at McDonald’s and think that everything is the same since 1967. So why do I tend to side with the other commentators…. mmmm I wonder?

Furtz
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@Barry. Huh?

Reg
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What Barry is saying Furtz is that you should live in today’s world, not in the past. I used to go to Montreal almost every week in the early 70’s and was very comfortable not being able to speak French. Now I only venture into Quebec if I absolultely have to and only to places I have been before. The road signs are all in French so it is very difficult to find your way around. Parking signs seem to be designed to trap les Anglais into getting tickets and the police seem to apply the trafffic rules with extreme… Read more »
Furtz
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I guess I have the advantage of knowing my way around the city from living there. I stay off the express ways and have easy time getting around. And you haven’t lived ’till you’ve had a pizza from Toto’s in Lachine.

Stan
Member

Or a smoked meat sandwich at Schwartz’s on St.Lawrence Blvd.

Mike Bedard
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This is one of ther most amazing demenstrations of how people are easily confused and talk about topics that are not relevant to the topic! I own a business and since within one hour of it approximately 40% of the population living here declared their mother tongue as French Only and English and French! IT WOULD BE A HORRIBLE MARKETING DECISION TO PROMOTE MY BUSINESS AS ENGLISH ONLY! It would also be a not only an uneducated decision but also would alienate and decrease my sales potential by 40%! ………..But hey I am an anglophone so it doesn’t matter what… Read more »
Mike Bedard
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PS – Only 38 countries have claimed English as one of their official languages and French has 29 Countries!

Maybe some of you didn’t know this!

Furtz
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Mike, I think it boils down to the fact that Tammy and all these francophobes don’t give a rat’s a$$ (is a$$ ok?) about your business, or any other businesses in the area that depend on French speaking clients to help keep them afloat. They are so obsessed and angry about bilingual signs and services in Ontario that they would be happy to see even more businesses close if that’s what it takes to achieve their goal of a French-free Ontario. You could almost think of it as “collateral damage” in their battle for English rights and freedom. Have you… Read more »
Furtz
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I hate typos and not being able to edit.
Should be “advice”.

Mo
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I agree with tammy that it is an issue about the English speaking culture being fazed out rapidly. That is exactly what the French have been whining about for years. They don’t want their identity to be erased and neither do Ontarians.They ban our language completely in Quebec. And force theirs on everyone else around the whole country. Wreck beach in Vancouver is visited by people from every province, but when I was there 15 years ago I was appalled to see a Quebec flag posted on that beach. There was a B.C. flag there, WE WERE IN B.C. Nobody… Read more »
Furtz
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Mo, it’s even worse than that! By 2015 everybody in Ontario is going to have to become black, and learn how to speak Chimpanzee. I’m pretty sure that it will be the law throughout Canada by 2020! Not only that, but there is secret legislation in the works that will require everyone to be gay, and worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
And you think that the French are a threat to our way of life. You ain’t seen nothing yet.

Stan
Member

Furtz: not just start the herd but she could lead the herd…….

Furtz
Member

Actually Frenchy, Tammy already has a herd of dairy cattle to manage, plus she seems to be leading a herd of English supremest freedom-fighters, so she’s probably pretty busy as it is. I was just suggesting that she could maybe give Mike some tips on how to break into the dairy industry so he can still make a living once she and her followers succeed in making Ontario a French-free province.

edudyorlik
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BRAVO TAMMY. You are Great !!! One of these day’s I will endeavor to take you out for a– Montreal smoked meat platter 🙂 — AND YES, This kind of French first, French only and French dominant thing is happening everywhere outside of the “Province” of Quebec. A province which, as we ALL KNOW is within the English dominant Canadian borders, but yet has the gall to freakin outlaw the English language. COMPLETE double standard. A place where they make no bones about obliterating the English language IN EVERY WAY. Even in places where it is more trouble to do… Read more »
Highlander
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Wait and latest Quebecois propaganda is now the rest of Canada is promoting ethnocide?

Equality of cultures do not exist in Canada whereas English is oppressed in Quebec .Do the federal government not respect its Quebec citizens that are English.

If that treatment were to a particular race -hey its called racism .
But its ONLY THE ENGLISH ,could you imagine if the french in Ontario were treated like that …WOW anarchy ,but its accepted in Quebec.
Two different sets of standards and the social engineering continues.

Eric
Guest

If I am reading this federal link from Highlander right, over the last 3 years, Francophone hiring went from 33% to 40%………is it any wonder Ontario would not have similar results for Eastern Ontario?
http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/arp-rpa/2012/st-ts/index-eng.htm

Edudyorlik
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@Grimalot RE: POST on September 1, 2011 at 1:18 am Grimalo wrote, “If shunning the liberals would only fix this language issue, I would do so. But it won’t fix this. Being an idiot and voting conservative will not fix this either. Harper will not fix this as it will alienate his party. The liberals won’t fix this and don’t have a chance to currently. Honestly, I’m waiting to see what is going to go on with the NDP in this matter since they are the new official opposition. The PQ has all but imploded. Same with the Bloc. Some… Read more »
Edudyorlik
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@Furtz RE: POST on August 26, 2011 at 5:04 pm Furtz wrote, “Maybe Tammy and her friends should start working on getting the name of Long Sault changed to Long Rapids. If they don’t want no stinkin’ French on tourist or road signs, they better get busy changing the names of Mille Roches and Moulinette as well. If South Stormont and area is to become an English-only and French-free zone, there is much work to do. Wiping out history is a big job, but I’m sure that Tammy will be up to it.” – Oh, Furtz. This sure sounds like… Read more »
stellabystarlight
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OMG!!!!! This article is over a 1 1/2 years old……You guys must be getting veyr desperate…….LOL

highlander
Guest

Omg you commenting on it further is even more desperate .
****smile****?

What you finnaly came from under the rock where you live.

Your showing a complete act of desperation ,live In Your little world the people who post are REAL and there are many more that disagree then agree to this forced bilingualism.
Welcome to it sweetheart *****smile******

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