Cornwall Ontario Community Hospital Bilingual Nurse Protest Draws 400 – VIDEO – March 4, 2012

Cornwall Ontario Community Hospital Bilingual Nurse Protest Draws 400 –  VIDEO –  March 4, 2012

CFN – What started out as a one man picket by nurse Christopher Cameron  exploded into a crowd that peaked at nearly 400 Saturday in front of the Cornwall Community Hospital.

The crowd braved winds as high as 70KMH that caused tree damage in the area.    The signs were in full bloom and cars honked their support regularly.

Old school tail gate speeches ensued, but there was another element that has invaded the protest triggered by the Richelieu Club’s antics at Cornwall City Council Monday night.   Sadly for some this is turning into a language war when it was never stated as such.

Interviews with none of the original protester revealed any inclination  to not offer bilingual services.     Nor did the Township of South Stormont’s motion suggest such; but after the Monday night council meeting in Cornwall language battlers as far away as New Brunswick invaded the protest.

This is what happens when you have a vacuum of leadership; extremists take over the agenda.  With the MP, MPP, Mayor and Council in Cornwall playing hide the sock on this issue for fear of upsetting someone chatter seems to be spinning things further.   None of the above were seen at the protest.

Add in a Hospital that is selective in who it speaks with, advertises its message with, and refuses to present copies of the French tests to the public that surely would put this subject to rest one way or another.

For mayor Bryan McGillis of South Stormont and Deputy Mayor Tammy Hart who were present it was public vindication as the good mayor has been crucified by the Standard Free Holder for their motion.

 

Apologies for sound issues on our video as the wind was brutal!

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZC5xu_woTM

Thanks to Don Smith for the tailgate video!

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j54eZzc_8Tc

Cornwall City Hall Monday

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyhqoWWJQ-Y

We will be updating this story as more information comes in.  In the meanwhile you can comment below.

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James Wolfe
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Remember one thing folks – The liberals brought in a lot of this expensive nonsense, bilingualism (forced french), multiculturalism, the charter, rights this, rights that…but the Conservatives have done nothing to repeal any of this crap. ??? Liberal, Tory same old story. Remember one thing folks – The liberals brought in a lot of this expensive nonsense, bilingualism (forced french), multiculturalism, the charter, rights this, rights that…but the Conservatives have done nothing to repeal any of this crap. ??? Liberal, Tory same old story. The Conservatives have allowed all of these liberal polices to remain??? How come? The simple facts… Read more »
Laura Lee
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When you designate language as merit and essential qualification, it becomes a language issue. It is a transcendent issue across Canada and the most acute in Ontario and New Brunswick because of concentration of francophones in those two provinces. Anglo Society of New Brunswick is a respected anglophone rights organization and they came to Cornwall rally to support Ontario defenders of English language rights. It is preposterous that language is used to deny employment to anglophones. Anglo personnel at Cornwall hospital is subject to a very high level of French WRITTEN test when all medical records and administrative files are… Read more »
Steph
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Yes they sould do an english written exam: their results would probably be better than your French written exam.

Not wanting to learn another language is lazy !

You are all a bunch of lazy people !

Kim Khoo
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Whenever the English-speakers protest this discriminatory policy, they are called “racists:, “bigots” or “French-haters”. However these some people who use these labels so freely don’t say anything about the French-speakers in Quebec dumping on the English-speakers. Ironically, the English-speakers come from all parts of the world and are made up of more diverse races than the French-speakers. So let’s stop with the silly labels and look at the facts. The fact is that French is a minority language, spoken in a very small part of Canada (Quebec, Eastern Ontario and Northern N.B.) As a minority language spoken only fluently by… Read more »
Benoit
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Curieux de savoir qui sera capable de lire ça. Je m’appelle Benoit. Je suis francophone et parfaitement bilingue. Ce n’est pas tellement une surprise. J’ai grandi à Gatineau, du coté québécois de la rivière des Outaouais. À l’âge de 8 ans, je faisais des phrases complètes en anglais. Je savais que c’était nécessaire. J’ai eu un premier emploi comme agent de sécurité à Ottawa en 2007. J’y ai travaillé pendant 3 ans. Dois-je préciser que je travaillais en anglais? En 2008, je suis également entré dans un collège Ontarien. Le seul francophone dans tout l’Ontario. N’empêche que mes déplacements, je… Read more »
Dave Windsor
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Subject: Hospital French Business Tip of the Iceberg There’s more on this bilingualism idea than meets the eye. We smugly bury ourselves into the Charter or Bill of Rights and Freedoms. As a result we are up the creek without a paddle as far as changing anything except all of us should think twice before adopting top heavy French at English citizen loss of jobs and expense to pay for it, especially in their own communities. That is simply unfair and morally wrong. Allow me to make a few points here. First of all, the Cornwall Community Hospital gives the… Read more »
Eric
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I went to the rally on Saturday and did not hear anti French diatribes from anyone. I heard people concerned about cost, fairness in hiring and the constant push for French language services truly needed by a small percentage. Not all staff need to speak / read / write English and French at the hospital. When will an MP or MPP notice how many votes they can get with pushing for fairness of English language concerns in this province? When we complain more! To the 2 drive by’s Saturday that held up the one finger salute, first let me say… Read more »
Eric
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Benoit, your writings seem like a battle cry, and using OC Transpo Drivers in Ottawa as an example tells me you have not read the statistics. About 500,000 English only, about 14,000 French only and about 10,000 who do not speak either English or French are in Ottawa. From a business stance alone, we should provide more English language schools for the French to better thrive in a global economy. Don’t believe everything you read from your government in Quebec and the media, they are the same ones telling us Quebec has 5 years of high school. Funny how those… Read more »
left-or-right
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I don’t believe anyone is asking Benoit or any other bilingual Canadian to give up their language or their heritage, This issue is about fundamental fair hiring practices, it is not about English versus the French as the French language zealots would like to spin it. Benoit is obviously an intelligent young Francophone who at an early age in Gatineau, Quebec learned English to meet the requirements of today. Gatineau/Aylmer Quebec is the same town my grandchild lives and attends school and home to many of my ancestors. My own French heritage goes back over 400 years in Canada. Through… Read more »
Mike Bedard
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Its funny to see people trash the Montfort Hospital – a french hospital for not serving people in english, obviously wrong on many levels, believe that removing a bilingual designation to a perscentage of applicants is NOT NEEDED and would be progressive! In reality it would be regressive! The hospital doesn’t require all of its applicants to be bilingual and if you talked to some of the protestors and read some of the comments you will see that this is a common belief and is 100% wrong! Approximately 30% of the staff hired last year were bilingual the rest anglophone;… Read more »
left-or-right
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I’m not reading any l’Hôpital Montfort bashing in this particular thread or article Mike. If you were referring to my comment regarding their administration having difficulty filling positions with qualified Francophones to meet their French only designation criteria, I was merely stating a fact to emphasize the point that finding applicants to meet the French language requirements was an issue. By no means was I challenging l’Hôpital Montfort’s right to exist as a French only facility or that they should have to serve people in English. If that is what you thought I apologize. However, although I agree with you… Read more »
Izzy B
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I am very disturbed that language is considered more important then qualifications when it comes to health care at the Cornwall Community Hospital. Now my question is; when the hospital was asking for donations for all those years, how come they didn’t mind taking money from the english public. Shouldn’t they have refused that money as well, knowing they were going to refuse them jobs later…. Maybe the people on the board will wake up….OMG I am so distrubed over this. If my loved ones ever needed care I couldn’t care less if the person giving it was fully bilingual… Read more »
Mike Bedard
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Re: Left-to-Right. Benoit mentioned Mont-Fort in his comment above, not you. Aslo, who cares if it was administration who called for the Hospital to become bilingual! It should be bilingual and again they are only hiring approximatley 30% of the frontline staff who are bilingual not Francophone and the rest are Anglophone! Re: Izzy B. I think you would care if they didn’t speak english! You need to be qualified to be in any health care position period after that experience and other assets such as being bilingual in a designated bilingual community is definitely an asset to those who… Read more »
left-or-right
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Yes Benoit suggested that Franco-Ontarians remembered what happened with the Montford – hardly bashing in my view. In regards to who cares if the board brought this on themselves in the pursuit of extra funding, I care, as I am sure others do as well. I feel that is important to know that this whole issue is about money, not language or service for the hospital. The hospital was always more than sufficiently bilingual before this designation was self-imposed; ask anyone who has worked there in the trenches, past and present and not just members of the administration, the front… Read more »
Eric
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You are right Admin, federal is pushing provincial and they are pushing communities, all with money from the one taxpayer. Instead of such a cencerted effort to expand French, that money, time and other resources would be better put into our services. The rally was a start, some media ( thankfully) is listening, whats next. Letter writing to MP & MPP alike?

Laura Lee
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Mike, let me correct your numbers with the information directly from the CHH website: ” In 2011 there were 217 positions to be filled. 132 of these positions were advertised as requiring French language skills and 57 were filled with candidates with the required French language skills.” 132 required bilingual positions out of total 217 is 60.8%. 57 bilingual positions filled, out of 132 bilingual positions required is 43%. So, it’s 43% bilingual positions that were filled last year (not 30% as you said), and the reason they did not filled all required bilingual positions was not because they were… Read more »
Mike Bedard
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Re: Laura Lee. I agree that the french language should be an asset and I am all for that recommendation! Thanks for the softball because your math is completely off it was actually 26.3% and not 30%, much closer to the 24%! However, this is again an example of twisting the facts, which I am sure are done unintentially, but my original comment was that approximately 30% of the people hired were bilingual! Out of the 217 people hired 57 were filled with candidates who possessed advance french language skills! 57 out 217 is 26.3% exactly! Comparing the 57 to… Read more »
Mike Bedard
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oooops…..I meant 74% of the new hires were Anglophone not Francophone!

Steph
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I just can’t believe my ears. Some of you have turned bilingualism into an evil plot to turn Canada into a French state. James Wolfe, I seriously doubt Mr Serge Joyal ever made such comments. It’s totally absurd. C’est de la foutaise! Dave Windsor, what are you implying? Do you seriously believe bilin-gualism has put Ontario in the hole? How about an ailing automobile industry and a heavy reliance on an ailing automobile industry in the US? It just proves it’s never good to put all of one’s eggs in the same basket. Enough with the French and Québec bashing!… Read more »
Reg Coffey
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I wonder if some of those anglophone hires were actually bilingual but couldn’t pass the french language test and how many of the francophone patients could actually pass the french language test.

Laura Lee
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Mike, I re-read it and agree that my 43% were wrong and your 26% are right. I was not “twisting” the facts, however. You cannot twist the math intentionally, 2×2 is always 4 as you promptly straightened me out. Do you know how many total positions in the hospital and how many of them are bilingual? That would give the public a clear picture of the situation and avoid speculations on “what if” you engaged in in your previous post. We also need to know what are the criteria for designating positions bilingual and why all RN positions were designated… Read more »
hailey Brown
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I am not sure how old many of you may be, but you seem to be caught up in an event predicated by politicians to simply create controversy. I was born in Cornwall, well four score and seven, and the city at that time was filled as it is now with many many ethnic groups. Many Italians, Greeks, Germans, Polish and now we have people from India, Pakistan and many countries abroad. Why is it that we only, once again, have issue with the French? If we can expect all other nationalities to learn English as was done for many… Read more »
Colleen McIntosh
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Kudo’s to all who are fighting for our collective linguistic equality and rights. Was proud to be one of the many on Saturday to stand in solidarity for my fellow Nurses, in Cornwall. Am an RN from Ottawa, and can say without a doubt, that we are facing the exact same linguistic discrimination. The time has come to face many hard truths…for one, French is a minority language in Ontario and Canada. Outside of Quebec, Canadians are English at 97% of the entire population. In Ontario, we are English at 96% of the population. Of the four percent of French… Read more »
Lou
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Steph, the quotes from Joyal (and Trudeau and others) are correct, shocking, disgusting and racist. They absolutely wanted to turn Canada into a French state. It is currently a French-dominated state. Anywhere else in the world we would be considered an apartheid nation. But with the NDPQ supporting the racist anglophobic Bill 101 there is not ONE POLITICAL PARTY in Canada that does NOT favour francophones over anglophones. I believe the figure was around 75% of top jobs in the federal government are held by francophones (mostly from Kebec). “Bilingual” means two different things to francophones and the rest of… Read more »
Hugo
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This is all nonsense. Language would never be an issue if we didn’t have a socialized health care system. A lot of private sector businesses provide services in both languages (and more) and it doesn’t seem to be a problem. You wanted a soviet-style health care system? Then you’ll have to provide services in both official languages. Don’t make, French, Québec or Francophones your scapegoats for everything that’s wrong with government. Yes a lot of Francophones are bilingual in the area, but being able to have a conversation about last night’s hockey game and describing your symptoms to a monolingual… Read more »
Pavel
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Hugo, why do you think francophones are some kind of special creatures everybody should worship and pamper? Do you think only francophones have that human need to chit chat with a doctor and describe their symptoms in their mother tongue? Do humans of other ethnic origins and languages have less value in your eyes? So who is BIGOT here? English should be one and only primary language in Ontario hospitals to ensure a level playing field for everyone – personnel and patients. Every adult in Cornwall speaks English. Here is some language statistics for you in Cornwall (census 2006): Mother… Read more »
Hugo
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Pavel, the Francophones are not “some kind of special creatures”, but they happen to speak one of Canada’s official languages and, like it or not, they represent 30.5% of Cornwall’s population. Nothing against those who speak other languages (I learnt five), but they are usually people who came from another country and they don’t expect all of us to speak their language. They come here and learn one or both official languages. When I go to Rome, I do as the Romans and I try to do it in their language. I don’t impose mine!

Mike Bedard
Member
Re: Hailey Brown. Thanks for the information. I looked it up on line but it only seems to be a private clinic “by appointment only” or “SUR RENDEZ-VOUS SEULEMENT”! I can see how it is scene as public clinic because it has mental health service and several other medical services. However, it was specifically created as a health option to areas who have heavily population of french residents in Ontario such as Alexandria, Embrun, Bourget and now has one in Cornwall. They are a collective of doctors, nurses, dieticiens, councillors and psychatrists that work under one roof to better aid… Read more »
Alex
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Anglophone Canadians seem to suffer from a peculiar variant of the “Why you act so White?!?!” syndrome that some Blacks here in the U.S. suffer from. “Standard English, Math, History, [i.e., KNOWLEDGE] is useless to me — why do I have to spend time learnin’ all this White Man’s stuff? I’m gonna be a basketball player or autoworker, just like my Daddy.” Anglophone Canadians suffer from “Why you act so French?” syndrome. French doesn’t seem to be applicable to my daily life, so why learn that Quebecois stuff? Well, to get ahead you need knowledge and skills. If you live… Read more »
claire
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Alex, who is stopping you or Quebec go? Go ahead and separate. The sooner the better.

Tom
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Mike, what are you smoking? Hailey Brown did not say a word about any Cornwall clinic. In fact, nobody in this thread mentioned “French only WALK-IN clinic” in Cornwall. Lou, however, mentioned “French-ONLY clinics in Ontario”, one of which in fact exists in Cornwall. After reading your post, I got the impression you really need an appointment there. Hugo, at the national level Canadians can receive services in both official languages in federal institutions only. At provincial level, only NB is officially bilingual and Quebec is unilingual French. Here in Ontario, provincial government provides French language services only in certain… Read more »
Pavel
Guest

Mike, yes really, 45 people in Cornwall have Mohawk as a MOTHER tongue.

Mike Bedard
Member

Re: Tom. It was anotherthread, mentioned by Reg Coffey, which Hailey Brown kindly answered. If you were actually up to date then you wouldn’t be so lost!

Hugo
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@ Tom “Hospitals and clinics are not government institutions.” Hospitals and clinics are part of a socialized health care system paid for by taxpayers. And, in Cornwall, 30.5% of those taxpayers are French-speaking. You wanted a soviet-style health care system? Then you’ll have to provide services in both official languages. All this would never bother anyone if health care wasn’t funded by the government. You would be able to be a client of the English-only private hospital not funded through force by taking hard earned dollars from citizens in the form of taxes. A lot of private sector businesses provide… Read more »
Eric
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Tom, there are over 216 instututions, hospitals among them, that were bribed with our money to accept the FLSA. The 25 French language designated zones you mention covering 85% of the Ontario geography, now needs only 10% of an area to be Francophone or 5,000 in an urban area, of course the definition of Francophone was changed in 2009 to increase numbers. We have over 40 French Language Coordinator positions whose job is mostly to interact with Ministries to “strongly promote” French. “where numbers warrant” is one thing, but the rules are being changed to be sure numbers are increased… Read more »
Danielle
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I certainly hope that some change will come of all these discussions. I had hoped that moving from BC to Ontario for school and family reasons, that going to university would provide me and my family with a better life. I spent six years in university, thinking that this is the best way to improve my situation and get a good job with benefits. I completed my education and ended up with a diploma in social work and a degree in nursing. I’m Anglophone, and I feel as though I have been made out to be a criminal for not… Read more »
Hugo
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@ Danielle “Why is French not mandatory in universities that are training people to work in the public sector?” French and other languages are available voluntarily to anyone, anywhere in this country. “Should I have skipped university and taken the time out to become fully bilingual in French, would that have improved my situation?” Anybody learning another language improves his/her situation. No need to skip university. “I also lost a job posting with CCH, as at the time they wanted mandatory bilingual for the position, and I lost it as I’m Anglophone only, qualified for the position but Anglophone.” If… Read more »
Reg Coffey
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@ Hugo, are you a nurse or a doctor? People in those professions should be spending most of their time keeping up to date on medical issues not language politics. Do you do anything else other than criticize people for not being able to or not having the opportunity to speak a second or third language? You are the one who is showing intolerance and bigotry here. There is every reason to believe that an anglophone learning french would never be able to pass the Official French test. Even fully bilingual applicants have failed the test and are now being… Read more »
Pete Dick
Member

Hugo nailed it. Learning a second language is fun. What I don’t get is why, after eleven years of schooling, people graduate from high school not being able to speak both languages.

Carmen
Guest

Pete, because French immersion is a scam. It was never intended to make our kids bilingual so they give francophones competition. French immersion’s main goal is to turn our kids into supporters for francos’ cause while keeping them (our kids) out of good jobs.

Eric
Guest
Pete Dick, take a look at the Ontario school system. The requirments are for a French class a week through grade 8, then one French class must be passed in high school to graduate. If the McGuinty government thought so highly of French, why has that not been changed in 8 years? Maybe since English is the majority in Ontario and the business world, plus more people may start to see and complain. Politicians don’t seem to like that….it provides less photo ops. As I said in another post, considering someone from Vietnam who learned French while living in Brussels… Read more »
Magda
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I speak Spanish and I learned French in Montreal and later English. I think the attitude of these people on this site is pathetic. They are so closed minded. The only motivation possible to learn a language for them is jobs and money. What about opening your minds and discovering the world. French is still the most learned language in the world after English (of course). In South-America there are French classes in almost every good school. It’s the language of Beaudelaire, Voltaire, Victor Hugo, etc. Some of the greatest philosophers, poets, singer-songwriters were French. Everyone knows this. The French… Read more »
Eric
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Salaberry de Valleyfield was a small skirmish (1 in 1812 and another in 1813) in a 2 year war we know as the war of 1812. Yes a few of the soldiers from their helped down the road from Cornwall (Ontario) at Chyrslers Farm, but the Chyrsler Farm battle is known as the War that saved Canada. However we were then the Province of Canada, a British colony and this is long after France gave up on North America with the Treaty of Paris in 1763. Yes Quebec has contributed in the past, although seeing a German submarine in the… Read more »
Reg Coffey
Guest

Magda, I’m happy for you that you are skilled in languages but are you also trained as a nurse or doctor or perhaps a phlebotonist. What does your pro-France diatribe add the issue at hand, unfair hiring practices at the Cornwall Community Hospital. I don’t believe your obvious disdain for anglophones does nothing to address the situation.

William Barnes
Guest
I could say all sorts of things but what it all comes down to is that my Canada is not French. It includes French people and a French province…but that’s all. I have never read so many articles as are in this conversation that are telling it the way it is. Making French an official language was never sanctioned by referendum of the Canadian people which are most harshly impacted by it. A French Prime Minister and head of the liberal party pushed it through for the benefit of his own people by whipping the vote of a majority political… Read more »
Sue
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Im hoping quebec separates from us i can’t wait!

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