Letter to the Editor – Harry Valentine on Where to put a Beach in Cornwall Ontario – July 23, 2012

Letter to the Editor – Harry Valentine on Where to put a Beach in Cornwall Ontario – July 23, 2012
In regard to recent interest expressed in Cornwall in regard to a beach along the city’s waterfront, I am providing a diagram showing 2-possible locations for a beach. Back in the history of Cornwall, the electric streetcars that once provided city transit, operated a route to St Lawrence Park that included a beach and a picnic area. That park was located on the east side of the river inlet that borders St Lawrence College.
One possible beach location would be the little inlet near the Woodhouse Museum. There may be scope to enlarge the little inlet and include a water pipe from the river, to assure continual exchange of water. This will save money on a water filtration pump and chlorine at a swim area that would be some 20-times of a municipal pool.
A second possible location for a beach would be to excavate a pool on the waterfront next to the new causeway. A small amount of water flowing from the Cornwall Canal could assure exchange of water in the pool, with an outlet emptying into the St Lawrence River. This pool could be some 200-times the area of a municipal pool and require no chlorine nor a pool filtration system.
Both options have been submitted to the City’s waterfront committee. Perhaps other citizens who have some creative ideas re a possible future beach at Cornwall, may care to submit an idea to the waterfront committee.
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Harry Valentine
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bigfellow
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Has there ever be any thought of (a) bikes for rent or boats for rent ?
Have anice day.

Dukers1
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As usual Mr. Valentines researchand application of ideas is forthcoming and intriguing. As recently highlighted by some citizens a beach or larger pool of water accesible for Cornwall swinners has been lacking. Conversions into a larger outdoor skating venue would also extent the community access with year round uses. Snow clearing could set up toboganning hills as well. These cooling hot spots would be a welcome areas for expanded summer and winter ‘ice capades’ festivals and inviting areas of play while our expanding Balloon Fest holds on. Imagine a hundred thousand visitors or more at these sites. Thank you Harry… Read more »
John Lister
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I believe Bicycle world rents bikes. A beach would be a wonderful addition to Cornwall. As it is now, people either go to Lancaster, the beach on the Long Sault Parkway, or the free beach just past the Lost Villages. If we kept people in Cornwall, they’d be buying their lunches, etc. here, rather than out of town.

Neil Macmillan
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Biking, swimming and boating facilities for the general population along the waterfront would all seem to be ideas worth pursuing. Beach volleyball and ultimate frisbee are other activities that would seem to lend themselves well to Lamoureux Park.

CONSIDER THIS
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I don’t wish to throw cold water on this proposal however a few points should be considered. The map indicates digging on Govt. owned land that Govt. seems reluctant to part with & even if they became agreeable the W/F plan agreed to by City Council indicates Housing at that location. The other proposed spot seems to be in front of RCAF Wing. My concern with that location is Parking.Will people be agreeable to dig up green space for parking? My next point is project Cost? We are currently looking at 18.5 Million Dollars to pay for the up grade… Read more »
Wow!
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I don’t always agree with Harry Valentine, but when I do it is on this topic. Should have been done decades ago. If it is proposed as something healthy for the minds and bodies of both young and old, it will be done.

bigfellow
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Why is it that everytime the mention of building this and building that or a parking lot be made on/in Lamoureux park or areas like RCAFA,Equatic,curling rink are considered places to be desecrated in the area concerned? If you want to make improvements, GO EAST, there a lot of land there, that can be improved, instead of picking on lamoureux park. What IS ALSO BADLY NEEDED, is a PLAN FOR WHEN THE CAUSEWAY (if that’s what it’s supposedly to be called) IS COMPLETED. I have NOT seen plans, ideas, or whatever as to what is going to happen to attract… Read more »
Emily M
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I agree; I’d like to see the changes being made by the building of the new bridge. Are the plans made public yet?
If not, why not?

CONSIDER THIS
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Gosh Whats missing here the (snow dump area) is owned by the GOVT. and they can do with it as they please & in due time they will let us know what their plans are.

Dukers1
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The gov’t this, the snow job that, the moneyfactor, condos yes, condos no, no dreams allowed……….no change or added ideas allowed because w/f commity has plans for east, can’t do this or that to the west, out of bounds? Typical negativism. DARE TO DREAM, that’s where good ideas come from. The universe will unfold as it should and the good dreams will come through. Yes we can, and yes we will. Personally I like the showcase ideas by the new bridge far bettter than a condo or another shopping plaza. Action, activity surrounded by beautiful guardens, statues honoring our heros… Read more »
bigfellow
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The whole idea is to have ATTRACTION for visitors for REVENUE
for the city coffers i.e. a camp ground operated by the city or leased, west of and close to the new bridge to help out with the abundance of visitors who come for different religious meeting and other festivities or simply to visit Cornwall.
This will give employment and service to the community.

Have a nice day.

CONSIDER THIS
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Perhaps a reality check is required instead of just dreams. The land just east of the new bridge (canal crossing) seems to be the spot by the proposal to be dug up for a new beach. However the Govt. who own the land perhaps are going to build the Toll booth there. Doesn’t the Govt have a right to do so? In addition to that it would be best to have Canadian Customs built here in Corn.

bigfellow
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Well, CONSIDER THIS, I wonder where you would be, today, if your parents had not dream of you. Where would Cornwall be, if someone had not dreamed of it being a city?
That’s what reality is all about,to make those good dreams come true.
Like I said, NOBODY has said where the toll booths are going to be,because, they are two entity of the goverment and don’t get along with each other. There is the “UNTOUCHABLES” in the CUSTOMS and “The SEAWAY MASTERS” and that is REALITY.
Until they decide which way it shall be, hold onto your hats.
Have a nice day,tomorrow.

Dukers1
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Sacred Cows Beaching All of Us. An extension of the dream would be to think outside of this box we are in or rather ‘right inside the box’. That is to view what some would envision as unthinkable or sacred cow or virtually untouchable. We DO have the makings of a beach area right under our noses. A beach with sand for running in for picnicking in and general sun worshiping in is a large virtually unused parcel of Lamoureaux Park, yes Lamoureaux Park. Between the RCAF building. above the water inlet, below and over to the Museum is a… Read more »
bigfellow
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Dukers1, I agree, finally,someone has taken the steps to figure it out intellingently.
It’s strange, there is suppose to be a board or committee for waterfront reseraction and yet,nothing has been said, (whoops )
I forgot that dreaded word ” condo(S)” is still around and I forgot that their meetings are possibly secret/redundant also, otherwise there would be some action/info,huh!
This would be a great time for them to show some initiative has occurred on thier part towards a beach in cornwall.
Have a nice day folks.

Dukers1
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Thanks Bigfellow. Nice to have at least one fan, however, there is but one other and that is Mr. Harry Valentine, the engineer who came up with his own points of wisdom. I thank him for his initiation into this prospect. YES, of course there are hurdles to overcome. Some mentioned above, they were a forgone conclusion. One step at a time and any obstacles can be overcome. It all depends on the drive, the muster; the acceptances and so on doesn’t it. Here’s a few ideas to add to concerns others would have: 1) Possible ‘rotary’ style bridge similar… Read more »
bigfellow
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Thanks, dave, for the info. It’s funny, isn’t it, not a peep from the the waterfront “gang”, whose job it is to create envisions of changes to the waterfront. How many people are involved in the making of this committee, 5,6 or more and they still have not come up with any terrific ideas like yours and you took a short time to come up with a low price solution and they have been trying to do something for the last what is it, possibly 4yrs? There must be something cooking there or are they waiting for thier tenure to… Read more »
Dukers1
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I well realize the frustrations citizens have with what appears to be personal or indirect for profit motivations. This question raised its head with the ‘Condo’ proposal right at the entrance to the Marina 2000. I couldn’t believe it at first, yet the will of the citizens of Cornwall was a loud and resounding ‘NO’. I see another letter yet in to-days Standard Freeholder (Aug. 2/12) acknowledging the desire to have a beach and also seeing the ‘Inlet Beach’ idea as viable. I have been discussing this area for a while with 3 engineer friends who do have some justifiable… Read more »
Highlander
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A Beach at Lameroux park is a fantastic Idea . We need to attract people to the downtown core , For myself and others we must bring our kids to Long Sault parkway for beach front. Having the beach central means less motor vehicles -may encourage more people walking to that destination as well as the people with minimal funds can easily access the beach through public transit. Cornwall is privileged to have its waterfront -please don’t fill it up with condo’s – that is not in the interest of the average citizen but lets create a beach like no… Read more »
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