LTE – Eric Little of Ottawa Ontario Challenges Statement of Mike Bedard – February 7, 2013

LTE – Eric Little of Ottawa Ontario Challenges Statement of Mike Bedard – February 7, 2013

Mike-Bedard-Headshot-233x250In response to a thread comment by Mike Bedard, added below.

 

Oh my goodness Mike Bedard, you asked if anyone at an English school would be as willing or capable of speaking French for Francophone parents. English people are allowing and even encouraging French to prosper at great expense to everyone and that comment is insulting. 97% of Ontario can speak English btw.

 

Many “SMART” parents, again, oh my goodness. Parents are sending their kids to French or French immersion schools for a couple of reasons. One is jobs since the number of “preconceived” careers “demands” it. Another is French immersion schools are getting better funding . Some schools as well who have many newcomers, may bring down the scholastic average since English is not the first language, and or varying culture differences can reduce the learning levels or overall effectiveness of some concepts.

 

I think most people know  government Acts, policies and the people driving them are the problem, and associating culture with learning French, well, that would deserve a separate letter.

English people do not look at learning another language as a sign of respect, that seems to be different with Francophones though.

 

Mike Bedard February 7, 2013 at 12:09 am

RE: Dave, ENOUGH with the language fiasco you discredit a valid cause by adding your FLSA BS to every debate …Stop!!!

My wife and I attended an information session for Pre-Kindergarten Parents tonight and the Principals and Teachers made sure to ask if anyone could not speak French as they would speak in English for the parents!

Do you think that anyone at any English school would be as willing, or capable, of speaking French for Francophone parents?

NO they wouldn’t!

The Francophone, who are proud to help everyone learn French are NOT the problem!

Did you know that many SMART parents send their kids to French school even though they cannot speak a word of French themselves? Did you know that the French Catholic School that we attended made sure to offer additional support to those children and parents who fall into this category?

Your pre-conceived hatred due to personal issues stop you from seeing how beneficial and better we can be if our community was more cultured!

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mariah
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Mike is so misinformed,he really does need a reality check!

Highlander
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Hey Parents , (1)Do you send your children to French schools or French immersion to better your community to be “cultured”as Mike Bedard stated? (2)Or do you send your children to French schools or French immersion to increase their chances of government employment with the ever increasing artificial demands of bilingual jobs? I know the majority of Parents that I know send their kids for (2). The government is by the hiring process limited those parents to that choice. The initial intention with implementation of the FLSA and the official languages act federally was to provide services where “WARRANTED”. Where… Read more »
Cory Cameron
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Thanks Eric and spot on Highlander!

I completely agree with both Eric and you, Highlander.

As-a-matter of fact, I was sent to a French Immersion school with the hopes that I would become bilingual someday and would be one of the chosen ones.

It turns out I wasn’t French enough though!

Highlander
Guest

Remember that “where numbers warrant”

Tell me how 21% Francophone population equals 64.8% of hires.

This is why parents do not have much of a choice but to send their children to French schools or French immersion!

http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/arp-rpa/2009/st-ts/tbl07/tbl16-eng.htm

Cory Cameron
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I want to share an editorial that Human Right’s advocate Howard Galganov wrote and posted yesterday, Wednesday February 6, 2013 on his website, galganov.com. I believe his stated beliefs reflect what most of us feel in regards to this language problem. That’s right. I believe this is no longer an issue but a problem… Howard, my hat’s off to you. 250,000 REASONS NOT TO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM . . . ONE REASON FOR If you’re an American reading this . . . try to imagine being punished to the tune of A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS – ONLY for… Read more »
Sick of Stupidity
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Excellent response Eric!!!!!! Yep, my child is not in a French immersion program because he/she has to be, it’s because if we want to live in Ontario, thus eventually work in Ontario, we are FORCED to support the 3% Francophone population and their demands.

By the way, yes the French Catholic school board does have more funding but it does NOT fully support the English. My child has a tutor and we pay OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET FOR THIS.

Doesn’t seem to make any sense now does it!!!!!!

Sick of Stupidity
Guest
Oh yes and forget the fact that since our child’s parents are both only BASIC level French, even after taking college French as a second language, we cannot help with homework. We also don’t know what the hell is being said when we go to Christmas recitals, help out at the school or even in helping them prepare for the sacraments. That in itself is a crying shame. The teacher I must say are great and very supportive. But putting families through this for the WRONG REASON is not acceptable. Can we not just enroll our children in French programs… Read more »
Wow!
Guest

Mike’s sparky little spirit will become inflamed at this protest by you guys. Wait till we hear his over the top, if he can reach that high, rebuttal of nonsense and family stories. HAHA!

Kim Khoo
Member
Mike Bedard, are you implying that the French culture is superior to the other cultures of Canada? English-speakers represent many cultures and the English language allows the expression of many cultures in Canada. If you think that French Immersion or French-language schools are popular because it disseminates the French language & culture, your thinking is deeply flawed. The social engineering agenda of Pierre Trudeau has over-valued the French language & culture and without massive funding from the Federal, Provincial & Municipal governments, NOBODY would bother sending their children to F.I. or All-French school. By forcing the policy of bilingualism on… Read more »
City RN
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Right on the money Kim. You are 100% correct! I am thinking back to my graduating nursing class, “several” years ago. CCH hired all of the 6 or 7 grads that were bilingual and left out the Anglophones. Most of the bilingual nurses had marks in the low 70s, you needed a 70 just to pass. The Anglophones that graduated with 90s were overlooked. That’s ok, because Ottawa and the USA were the winners from my class. My marks were in the high 80s and yes I headed out to Ottawa at the time as well. Like Kim said, keep… Read more »
Lassie
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With all due respect to Mike (.08% by the sound of his rants) it it should be understood that, anyone that poses questions and then answers them himself, and thinks that he has made a valid point, as he does with…

“Do you think that anyone at any English school would be as willing, or capable, of speaking French for Francophone parents?
NO they wouldn’t!”

…Well it’s just delusional.

So considering the source, one oughtn’t waste breath or pen on this character.

stellabystarlight
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Yep Eric……I love a man with balls!! Doesn’t Mike have a right to his opinion? Did you know that many SMART parents send their kids to French school even though they cannot speak a word of French themselves? YES….in the long run, it will pay off like it has for many Canadians. Highlander wrote: Where WARRANTED does not imply that all students must learn the French language for Job opportunities within their own government. piper you forgot to add that in a country that has two official languages, FRENCH and english…..like Mike said, it is the smart thing to do.… Read more »
Rosie
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Well Mike, let me tell you what the very French teacher said when I visited the high school of choice for my children. An English Public School strongly promoting the French Immersion Program. “Do you mind Mr….Principal, if I say that students in the immersion program tend to be the better student” Now I had with me, my child, who graduated from grade eight as a high achiever from the Core program. Of course I was insulted by this remark but I have to tell you when it was high school graduation day I was one proud mom. I have… Read more »
Stephen
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Usually mike has valid points, but I take offence to his comment “smart parents enrolled their kids in French” Smart parents expect their kids to be smart, and. Smart is not determined by the ability to speak a language of a country and people that do well of the coat tails of the victors Think in Canada plains of Abraham, think in Europe 1919 The ability of Germany to grow into a nearly world beating force, that the British and the Canadians held off until the us decided that it might be a good idea to join in, was linked… Read more »
Rosie
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Mike why wouldn’t the French teacher speak English to the English Parent, is this not the drive of the French School Boards of Ontario, to lure the English child..

Kenneth T. Tellis
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Mike Bedard you are NOT French but Metis like the rest of the Acadien, Canadien and Kebecois. So stop talking about the French language agen Joual (French patois) is your REAL mother-tongue. If you do not stop I will have to escort to the reservation where your mother comes from.

You may want to out on some face pain for the occasion.

I hope that you will heed to my request and leave immediately.

highlander
Guest

stellabystarlight February 7, 2013 at 7:07 pm

Feeling alone here stella? Because you represent in representation people that agree to to mandatory bilingualism.

So all these people are wrong and your right ..hmmmmm who needs the right medication here?

edudyorlik
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@Sick of Stupidity RE: POST ON February 7, 2013 at 3:31 pm – Sick of Stupidity wrote, “My child has played a game on a monthly basis at her school. Maybe yours has played it as well. Each day the teacher gives the children 2 tickets. If one child catches another speaking English they call them on it and takes a ticket away from the child that spoke English. The one from each class that collects the most tickets wins a prize each month and their name is published in the monthly newsletter. How warped is that?!?!?” – “if one… Read more »
edudyorlik
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We need FI
because we believe
we NEED French

We then suddenly — DO NEED — French
because we BELIEVED
we needed French.

What a sneaky, vicious, awful game
they have played on the good people of this country.

highlander
Guest

TO think Quebec accuses the rest of Canada of ethnocide.
Now with governments demanding bilingual is that not ethnocide,people are loosing their ethnicity as the demand for French takes precedence.

Sick of Stupidity
Guest

@ edudyorlik

This game is happening at Ecole St. Lucie.

I must say though that the teachers are excellent and they all communicate with me in English. It is just the game that is so wrong. It teaches that English is a “no-no”!

Sick of Stupidity
Guest

As a follow up comment…

This is a way to positively reinforce kids speaking the French language, rather than negatively reinforce speaking English. Kinda of a sneaky way to get away with it. I am sure that this type of game in some form exists at most, if not all of the French schools here in Cornwall. It is just NOT right.

Kim Khoo
Member

So our children are being encouraged to spy on each other – doesn’t that remind you of Nazism when children were encouraged to spy on their own family? To think that we are actually allowing this awful practice to occur without any complaints from parents shows you how much we have accepted the supremacy of a small “tribe” speaking that language. What a shame!!!

As for people like Stella, her lack of logic in her statements makes me ignore what she says – I don’t argue with people like that – total waste of time.

stellabystarlight
Guest

Of course if a child is attending a french school, they must speak french in the school yard…….HELLO!! Not complicated…..LOL

WHY must french be spoken? Because if it’s a french school **smile**

If they allowed students to talk english how will they learn french? Not complicated…..

Eric
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stellabystarlight, similar “games” are found in French immersion schools as well. Of course that stops FI kids from communicating and playing with their friends who struggle in French or who are in the English stream.

Highlander
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stellabystarlight February 11, 2013 at 5:00 pm “Of course if a child is attending a french school, they must speak french in the school yard…….HELLO!! Not complicated…..LOL” “WHY must french be spoken? Because if it’s a french school ” **smile** So a child that is enrolled in an English school should not be permitted to speak french to a friend in a school yard either ? HELLO” FREEDOM OF SPEECH “which is enshrined in the charter of rights ,but in the interest of (french bilingualism) its alright to violate freedom of speech. So your argument could be said :In English… Read more »
Hailey Brown
Guest

Cheers to Kenneths post
He stated it very well, there is no real french here it is merely Franglais a watered down version of what it use to be.

That is why France has no support for Quebec, they want everything as they feel it should be, a culture all to their own.

stellabystarlight
Guest
piper wrote: So a child that is enrolled in an English school should not be permitted to speak french to a friend in a school yard either ?……get real piper. again piper in his wisdom wrote: So your argument could be said : In English school, a French child is not permitted to speak French to another in the schoolyard? Is that what your saying ? OMG…unbelievable!! When attending a French school, French, is spoken in the school. Is that too complicated? As it was posted 1,000 times before, english is much easier to speak and write. That being said… Read more »
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