Only 2 Cornwall Ontario Schools in Top 1000 Ranking of Fraser Report – February 18, 2013

Only 2 Cornwall Ontario Schools in Top 1000 Ranking of Fraser Report – February 18, 2013

Jamie GilcigCFN – With recent teacher strikes in one area school board and contract signing by the other I was starting to formulate a theory that we really need to start paying teachers based on results.

Something I’m sure none of the three main parties would embrace as the mighty teacher unions impact voter results.

The Fraser Report just came out and ranked area schools for the 2011/12 year and also five year averages and many of our Cornwall schools finished horribly while some did much better.

Should our teachers not be graded or promoted/fired based on results?   While parents and finances play a role surely the impact of education becomes more critical in cities like Cornwall.

Our best performer ranked on a 1-10 scale with 10 being best?  This ranked 2,706 schools.

 

1) Ste. Anne’s at #142 with a score of 7.4 and 5 year average of 8.6

2) Viscount Aleander at #567   6.8 7.4

3) Rose des Vents #1173 7.3 6.4

4) Notre Dame #1173 6.6 6.4

5) Eamer’s Corners #1305 4.9 6.2

6) East Front #1528 6.8 5.8

7) Marie Tanguay #2188 6.3 4.5

8) St. Columban’s #2188  4.1 4.5

9) Immaculate Conception #2228 3.5 4.4

10) St. Peter’s ##2228  3.0 4.4

11) Sacred Heart #2378 3.4 3.9

12) Bishop Macdonell #2404 1.9 3.8

13) Gladstone #2645 4.3 1.9

14) Central #2645 3.0 1.9

15) Akwesahsne Mohawk #2667 N/A 1.5

So overall it looks like we are not getting value for our dollar from our local education system or we really do need to get the flouride out of our water.

We expect Mayor Kilger to suggest that the results have to do with the CFIB and faulty scoring, but then he himself never graduated high school.

What do you think Cornwall?  Is this a performance issue or financial issue as Cornwall has a lower income per capita than say nearby Williamstown that did mighty well or even Brockville?     Are we getting good value from our schools locally and should teacher salary be linked to student results?  You can post your comments below.

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East Front Mom
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Oh my, a couple of years ago East Front was 2nd after St. Anne’s…they were #250 of 2,700+ Schools. What is happening to make their average drop so low? Well regardless, I’m still a proud parent of a couple awesome East Front kids 🙂

David Oldham
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One only has to look at the success of private schools in the State of Massachusetts to understand how the success of the youth is directly tied to the value and commitment that teachers bring to the table. Teachers paid on merit rather than simply being entitled to their entitlements is not only preferable it is necessary if we hope to survive in a competitive global economy. Just an observation. Parents in the not to distant future may opt to support a private school system that offers value for money and equips their children properly with the tools to carve… Read more »
luckyred
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Could this not be the results of the childrens parents?Teachers send quit a bit of school work home for the children to do or finish.I really don,t believe all parents have the time or knowledge to be teachers.Maybe parents should send the schoolboard a bill for doing the teachers job.

Wow!
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Much is related to the “perceived” income of parents and how much they push the teachers. Parents get caught in a “Keeping Up With The Latours” syndrome. In addition to the excessive debt they hold to keep the charade going, there is the need for more activities to be like Chad’s kids. Kirk’s son plays hockey at the “AA” level so mine must to. Scott’s kids are getting A’s at their school, what’s wrong with mine. So the soccer mom pushes the teachers. The teachers give out more homework to little Dante and Ally and. Some kids cut it and… Read more »
Wow!
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Oops.

Why?
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Are you kidding me!!!! “Luckyred” Teachers send homework home so a child can work on a concept discussed in school. It is an oportunity for the student to practice a new skill. Also, have you considered that maybe the child isn’t focussed during the school day and doesn’t get some of the work done because they aren’t using their class time well? Or they have lot of homework because they didn’t do anything in class? Or there wasn’t any time left at the end of the day? Yes it has been years since some parents have been in school and… Read more »
angela auclair
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wow? using the real names of children to make your point? that is pretty low. aside from that. having had two children go through the public and catholic school systems here, one child with learning exceptionalities, i can say that there is good and bad within the school systems. there is not enough money coming in to give the majority of our students a leg up on both the richer communities that abound in ontario and the smaller, tighter communities that are often better able to create success in their schools due to parental involvement and smaller class sizes. i… Read more »
Sick of Stupidity
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The kids in Cornwall will all be educated enough to work here at call centers……uh oh maybe not. Ok I won’t say it.

City RN
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I am not aware of how teachers are evaluated, but if it is the same as nurses nowadays, then there is no method of evaluation. For example, nurses used to get yearly evaluations from “Head Nurses” who worked on the floor along side them. Now they call them nurse managers and work in an office. The only time a nurse is “corrected” verbally is when a family member complains or she/he gets reported by a coworker. This is true in most places as well as at CCH. The only way you can actually get rid of someone is through a… Read more »
Sick of Stupidity
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Gee I had no idea that my child’s school scored so terribly low! I will have to follow up on how this and get more specifics.

David Oldham
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LUCKYRED – A parents interest and participation in their child’s education is of extreme importance. How does an educational system succeed however when the students themselves know in advance that they cannot be held back simply because they choose not to do assignments? What message are we allowing our present educational system to portray to the world? In the final analysis are we doing our best for the future leaders and decision makers or are we by design setting them up for failure?

Personally I endorse a system that rewards and promotes excellence not mediocrity. Just an opinion.

Smith
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Where are all the commentators a couple days ago that were calling out for a publicly run insurance system? Look at how well the publicly funded education system is running…

I am all for publicly funded education. Let us put effort behind fixing it.

The saddest state of affairs in Ontario education is the fact that we publicly fund a Catholic system. The savings from removing this plurality should be passed onto resources required by the students.

David Oldham
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SMITH – The Catholic Separate School Board which is funded by an allocation (choice) of your tax dollars is in comparison to the Public School System a module to be emulated. When the two founding nations of our great country sat down and decided that there was room for both it was also decided to recognize that religion and education were joined at the hip for one of the two parties concerned. This right is part of our history part of who we are as CANADIANS. Although I was baptized as an Anglican(and speak primarily English ) I would fight… Read more »
Eric
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Smith, do you mean French catholic system, English catholic system or both? Funding for the Catholic system was guaranteed under the 1867 Constitution, it will be hard to get rid of. It does account for about one third of the 24 Billion dollar education budget in Ontario though, and efficiencies must exist in that large amount I imagine. Some people would like to see funding return to levels of 1867 or that system entirely paid for by the 23% who direct their money from property taxes only. That would be a can of worms that could lead to Francophone related… Read more »
Darcy Neal
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Education is a very important issue for many people especially parents. As a dad my kids knowledge is very important and it is even more important for my wife. We both willingly accept our personal responsibility to help our kids to do good in school but more importantly to do good for themselves. Our school system offers a very disappointing performance level in relationship to our own expectations. So we invest our own time, energy and resources that we can allocate to offer learning opportunities over and above what our state educational system provides. Our kids are in the French… Read more »
Smith
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Mr. Oldham – If we are to live in a progressive society, the status quo will not suffice. How magnificent it must have been for these two founding nations you speak of to discover such a vacant landmass to form a nation on… There were many nations here long before the two you speak of, and they too are CANADIANS. There are people that live here from all over the world, and they too are CANADIANS. There are people moving here everyday that are neither Anglican, nor Catholic, and they too will be CANADIANS. I would hope any Canadian would… Read more »
luckyred
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My apologys to anyone i offended i just think a new teaching way is needed in our school systems.If the system is going to reley so heavenly on parents/ well many children will not succeed because many parents just don/t give a rats ass about their children.

David Oldham
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SMITH- We certainly would like to think that we are a progressive society and on certain levels we have been. Change becomes a necessary component of progress for sure however not everything needs to be reinvented in order to move forward. You are of course perfectly correct in saying that Canadians as a group are comprised of a multitude of racial, social and religious backgrounds, on that it can be said we agree. To also suggest that we can improve on previous methods, models, etc we can also be alined. However as much as you might wish we can not… Read more »
David Oldham
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LUCKYRED – I agree. Unfortunately poor parenting is a great problem facing this generation of youth. A new way of approaching education is likely required and possible the delivery system as well. We as society members may need to look in the mirror and ask ourselves is our pursuit of acquiring “things” more important than our children. Perhaps if we spent as much time dealing with our current realities as we do saving and planning our next purchases we just might create a richer future for our children to inherit.

Eric
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Presently, I would like to see 2 easy changes. If a child does not hand in work in a timely fashion, they get a zero. Currently they just don’t get a mark and it does not affect the final grade.The parent should also be called.

The University of Ottawa allows some students to a take a pass or fail grade instead of the actual mark for a select number of courses. Of course this does not give employers accurate school marks and should be stopped.

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