What Issues Would Trigger a Canadian to Actually Vote? CFN POLL – April 15, 2013

What Issues Would Trigger a Canadian to Actually Vote?  CFN POLL – April 15, 2013
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CFN – So with Justin Trudeau winning the Liberal leadership non-race we now know who our next three candidates will be in the next Federal election barring any tragedy or scandal.

harperStephen Harper clearly has shown his style and policies.   You pretty much know what you get with our PM.

Thomas Mulcair, responsible for the metemulcairoric rise of the NDP in spite of hard core Dippers kicking and screaming.

And now we have at the helm of the Liberal party Mr. Justin Trudeau who will be competing with the Ghost of his own father, one of Canada’s most successful Prime Ministers as well as the more established leaders.

Mr. Trudeau also leads the party known more for eating their own over the last two decades than in good police and leadership which could be why he now finds himself opportunistically behind the wheel.

Over the next year or so until the next election political machines will be gaming the public seeking which issues resonate the most.

After all, do people vote for a cause or against a politician?   Could Mr. Trudeau or Mulcair benefit from the majority of Canadians who simply do not support Mr. Harper’s policies; especially as more of them find out about them?

Is there any real difference between any of the three main parties at the end of the day?    Could that be why voters tend to be so apathetic?

So CFN has decided to ask you to VOTE in our poll about which issues are important enough that you’d actually vote for them?   It’s not which issue you support the most; but which you vote for one way or another especially if you could.

Have fun and of course you can vote for more than one selection.

 

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peter
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@ PJ, Apologies, I have stated many times my eyesight is very poor, and I tend to misspell and make errors. Thank you for the correction. In any event, trudeau’s Canada was not the envy of the world. his trudeau mania mantra faded very fast and he was not as well a respected leader say as Thatcher, Reagan and the like. But as previously noted was indeed loved by the dictator and communist ,Castro. BTW: it is my understanding that Bank of Canada regulations , are on going , depending of current world economic times. The president of the Bank… Read more »
PJ Robertson
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Gracious of you, peter. “[Pierre Trudeau] was not as well a respected leader say as Thatcher, Reagan and the like.” Mmmmm seriously debatable. For what it’s worth, highly respected Nobel laureate in Economics, Joseph Stiglitz, traces the economic troubles and deep divisions in society today to Reaganism, and by implication to Thatcherism (see The Price of Inequality: How Today’s Divided Society Endangers Our Future, Norton, 2012). Reagan and Thatcher are of course idols of Stephen Harper, whose Conservatives credit Thatcher with “saving Canadian conservatism.” Go figure what conservatism is doing for the widening gap between have and have-not in Canada… Read more »
PJ Robertson
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Consider also, peter, for the record: One of Pierre Trudeau’s most respected fellow leaders, Peter Lougheed, had significant cause to denigrate Trudeau, yet beyond their differences respected him greatly. How’s that for a tribute to both men, by common consent (nitpickers excepted) two great Canadians.

peter
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@ PJ Without a doubt trudeau is one of the most intelligent men of his time. He was also surrounded by “extremely experienced and very savvy politicians”, one, I knew personally, Bryce Mackassey. However, being a P.M. is not just about being intellingent. His total lack of respect for Alberta and the oil industry illustrates that. Peter Lougheed was a gracious and extremely able western leader. He, as well, recognized that trudeau was no fool. However, nor was Lougheed. Peter Lougheed was also an economic master for Albertans. the management of the Alberta oil industry, the Heritage fund to name… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member

Congratulations, peter, on your three degrees, your business achievements, and 33 years in teaching. After all that learning and all that success, arrival at a pantheon consisting of Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Mike Harris and the Saviour of Canada, Stephen Harper! While the likes of Joseph Stigliz, Nobel laureate, both “trudeaus” (sic), Bob Rae (a distinguished life in public service) are dismissed or consigned to outer darkness. Amazing, peter! Truly amazing.

PJ Robertson
Member

Good morning, peter. Three questions to leave with you:

1) Why such hostility towards the politics of fairness?

2) Why the persistent discourtesy in misspelling the name “trudeau” thus, when you have no problem spelling the names of others correctly?

3) What is a university education for if not to open one’s mind?

So long and good luck.

peter
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When a man, any man, uses the system to promote an agenda, that effectivly discriminates against the majority, and does it in a sneaky and vile manner, he looses my respect. During trudeau’s years, we were fed a diet that consisted of fairness to all and to give the french the respect they deserved. However, in REALITY, it was to gain control of the country by the francophones. The transition, from “wherever numbers warrent ” to french, only, English need not apply has been with us for years. To enshrine the charter and the notwithstanding clause into our constitution was… Read more »
peter
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@ PJ PJ’ , MY son`s nickname by the way. In my last post I know if I answered your question concerning trudeau, but not questions 1 and 3. Apologies. Your question concerns hostility. I am not hostile, I may come across as such to you, but I am not. However, when as I previously stated when 1 million anglophones in quebec are shunned, this upsets me. When language laws in Canada are permitted such as bill 101 and possibly 14, I get upset. Both of these laws are discriminatory and racist. BTW: these laws could only have come about… Read more »
edudyorlik
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Before I inject my “hopeful to learn” 2 cents worth (and that very well MAY BE – ALL – it’s worth) post, i begin by saying, “great posts to both you PJ and you Peter.” ————– @PJ Robertson I am on a quest… My quest stems from being a natural born and raised Liberal but now faced with having to learn how to deal with my present day dilemma. You mention the following people. — Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Mike Harris and the “Saviour of Canada, Stephen Harper” (though I realize you were being facetious, I would like to put… Read more »
peter
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@ edudyorlik It seems to me, when one responds to PJ and his views, if it does not correspond to his beliefs and his way of thinking, I, anyway, am branded as hostile. PJ, I notice, made no reference at all to the injustices I brought up, particularly when it concerns 1 million anglos and the racist and discriminatory laws of bill 101 and possibly bill 14 I wonder why that is ? He also has no comment of the fact that trudeau had a major role in this in 1982, when he incorporated the charter into the constitution. This… Read more »
peter
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@ edudyorlik It never ceases to amaze me, how people like Mr. P.J, Robertson claim to stand up for fairness, yet can simply ignore the plight and abusive treatment of the Anglo quebeckers, and the victims of forced bilingualim, code for french only. I am accused of being hostile, when all I am saying is the truth. People who do not get upset with the above isses either do not care or are just palin ignorant of the current laws and status of the English in Canada. trudeau was responsible for much of this. the charter, the notwithstanding clause, have… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member
@edudyorlick Thank you for your kind words. Your question is welcome and timely, as it gets us back to the original question for this thread: “What issues would trigger a Canadian to actually vote?” Your quandary as a “liberal-minded voter”–to vote or not to vote, for which party and for what reason–is very understandable, and I would guess shared by milions of Canadians, especially those who did not vote in 2011. It sounds as if you have already rulled out the Harper Conservatives because of their American style of politics, as you diplomatically put it. Which party then and for… Read more »
peter
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@ edudyorlik What again, is JT going to do for the English in quebec and is he going to be onside with FORCED BILINGUALISM in Ontario ? Answers: nothing and yes. A wonderful flowery, don’t worry be happy assessment by PJ. If P.J. knows anything, he should know that politics is a BLOOD SPORT. He talks of bullying, yet he conveniently omits trudeau sr.’s giving the finger to westerners on a train as the train was leaving the station. That’s a bully. How about trudeau’s “fuddle duddle” in the house of commons ? Was that not bullying PJ ? Not… Read more »
PJ Robertson
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@peter

Jeffrey Simpson’s column in today’s Globe and Mail:

“Our money for attack ads—how low can the Harper Conservatives go?”

In last Saturday’s Globe and Mail, April 20th, 2013, “Talking Point” featured a block of letters relating cyberbullying in the case of Rehtaeh Parsons to Mr. Harper’s bullying attitudes.

How low and silly can your posts get?

edudyorlik
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Well, thank you both Peter and PJ for that info. Here is my take on it… My dilemma (and i believe this is also the dilemma of MANY “thinking” Canadians) still remains — —- (and by “thinking Canadians” I mean those other than the young (mostly female) voters who are going to vote for Trudeau JUST because he’s cute. Of course they will say that it’s more than that but, when pressed, their answers — if given serious consideration — will still come to show that “the cute” element is “IT” In the end) —- — such that the Liberals… Read more »
peter
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@ PJ Jeffrey Simpson is not the be all and end all in Canadian politics. I guess his is to you. If he is your source for credible infoprmation, then that is sad,. sir. AS for letters, they are disgusting as you trying to associate this girls’ death to these political ads, that are just not in the same ball park as that girls’ suicide. You sir should be ashamed. Like your post, these letters are cheap shots. I haven’t seen you mention that it was Harper that pressured Brad Dexter to actually legislate action to address bullying. Why is… Read more »
PJ Robertson
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@edudyorlick Very fairminded. Re: the Liberals yelling “spend, spend, spend,” keep in mind this was after the Harper Conservatives had cut the GST twice as a blatant vote-getting ploy and frittered away the surplus they inherited from the Liberals …just as the recession kicked in! (Talk about Harper as economic genius!) So why did the Liberals urge spending? To kickstart an economy already depressed by the spendthrift Conservatives. The eternal French question: complex and problematic, for sure. That said, I can’t see that Trudeau the younger with his Anglo-French heritage and his message of inclusiveness is going to exploit one… Read more »
peter
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@ edudyorlik First of all, the chretien /martin cuts of the 1992-95 would have happened even if a conservative was at the helm. This is because Canada had NO CHOICE , it was cut or be bankrupt. This was also a CANADIAN BUDGETARY problem as opposed to a world financial crisis. As well, economic times in the early 1990’s were improving , so it was easier to make these cuts, although many Canadians would disagree with that. The cuts were also made to health and education, where we could least afford it, instead of cutting in other areas, like the… Read more »
PJ Robertson
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Correction to my latest post:

“To kickstart an economy already depressed by the spendthrift Conservatives”.

It would be more accurate to say: To kickstart a depressed economy with the country already in deficit thanks to the spendthrift Conservatives.

peter
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@ PJ Well if Jeffrey Simpson, says it, it must be true. After all, one reporter’s opinion right? Plus, a block of letters, supporting PJ ‘S views. Fisrt off, the attack ads are in the political arena, and are LEGAL. The Parsons case is not in the political arena, but a crime . Politics, wheather PJ agrees or not is a blood sport, as all politicians know. They enter into politics fully aware of the tactics used by ALL political parties. Remember PJ, your hero, trudeau sr. and his giving the finger to ordinary people of the west at a… Read more »
edudyorlik
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@PJ PJ wrote, “On balance in an imperfect world, your choice of the Liberals, I agree, seems best” I can see how you got confused with how I stated things PJ– MY BAD – One thing I seem to have left out was that this new “Liberal like party” would NO LONGER cater to the French fact in this country. THAT WOULD BE A MUST. And, if you look carefully you will NOTE that I said, “In the absence of a new leader and a new “liberal like” party (which hopefully shall come soon) the “hold your nose” and “just… Read more »
PJ Robertson
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@ peter –“fuddle-duddle” and “giving the finger” = bullying? So, profanity and bullying are one and the same? Gosh, peter, aren’t we all guilty of bullying, then…perhaps even you? — Pierre Trudeau’s “disrespect for parliament and the Canadian people” [for saying fuddle-duddle and giving the finger] And the Harper government as the first and only government in Canadian history to have been found by the Speaker to be in contempt of Parliament and by extension the Canadian people–no big deal? –Mr. Harper commenting in Calgary on the Parsons case: “Bullying to me has a kind of connotation of kids misbehaving.… Read more »
peter
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@ edudyorlik I agree with you concerning your refererence to the oldest tricks in the book, regarding cutting in health and education. Again, a liberal tactic. You may also want to see that the increases in immigration from the 1970’s through to the late 1990’s , were directly propoortional to the increases in wait, times and health care costs. This dramatically increased our costs and service. remember trudeau opened up Canada to the world at Canadian taxpayers expense, a true socialist tactic. No wonder why castro loved him While in business in Montreal from 1970-1989, there were many many immigrants… Read more »
peter
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@ PJ Nice try but no cigar here. First off, lets put the WORD bullying into proper context ,it is intimidation. Profanity can be intimidating, and so can swearing, given the context that it is ued in, and particulatly when the P.M. of a country uses in the country`s own house. Itis also classlesss. Absolutely. Were you ever taught by the Christan brothers in school PJ. Was the speaker in contempt of parliament É If he was maybe he deserved Harper`s action, but this was in parliament where the BIG BOYS PLAY. NOT CHILDREN on the internet, where they can… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member

Thank you, peter.

I now have a clearer understanding of what John Stuart Mill may have had in mind when he said:

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”

peter
Guest
@ PJ So much for personal attacks ,sir, its nice to see you practice what you preach, sir, I hope that made you feel good and ,to quote you ,credible . Its seems the attack mode virus is spreading to the carrier. What was that about your better angel PJ ?? Again, nothing postitve about Harper, the nation’s economy, the tragic death of a teen , if one does not agree with PJ then they are stupid. They seek out the academics, ,that did nothing in life other write theories that are either untested or flawed. because if they worked… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member
–“So much for personal attacks, sir” Never said you were stupid, peter. But if the cap fits… –“nothing positive about…the tragic death of a teen” Sorry, peter, you really should pay attention. “news of the cyberbullying of Rehtaeh Parsons and its tragic outcome” (my post April 24th, 11:58 am) —“Perhaps if you were in the world of business. . . . Perhaps if you experienced WORK. . . you might actually appreciate what it’s like to LIVE among real. . . people.” There you go again. I have been in the world of business for a total of 23 years… Read more »
Peter
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@ PJ Again nice try, at spin, when somone responds to you head on. No, you never “said I was stupid, you implied it. Just like your “If the cap fits” comment.. Hey no problem PJ, I have a very thick skin , but I expected more from somone such as you. Well, I have yet to read, when I respond to this tradegy, anything close to any compassion, only comparsions to JT attack ads, other than it had a tragic outcome. is that it, a tragic outcome. WOW what a heart warming response that is, do you heart that… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member
@ peter First, an olive branch: We should be able to exchange views and iideas without descending into name-calling. Distressing not to. Second, I am very sorry that you are troubled by poor vision. That must be acutely frustrating, even depressing. I can sympathize to a degree having last partial sight in one eye just over three years ago. Third, re: the quote by J.S. Mill, I half hoped you might reply, “I am not one of ‘most stupid people.'” (BTW I have a lot of time for progressive Conservatives, especially of the calibre of Joe Clark and Robert Stanfield.… Read more »
peter
Guest
@ PJ Let me begin by saying, I have “very thick skin” .If you know Montreal, at all, you may have heard of Point Saint Charles. Well, that where I was raised . This was and maybe still is, one of the toughest areas in Canada. I appreciate you concern for my eyesight. I have many more and serious ailments that sight, but the thought and concern is appreciated. Your J.S. Mill, quote came across as inferring I was stupid. If you meant something else, all you had to do was say what you meant. Simplicity. No misunderstanding . In… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member

Fine, peter, I get the picture: Different worlds.

Salut et bonne chance

Peter
Guest
@ PJ I’ll take a leaf out of your book, John Milton said : “Argument is healthy”. Please do not take offence here, I take nothing personally, and I hope you do not take issues personally as well. I have very thick skin. and never hold grudges. But, as I stated , in my hearts of hearts, different worlds or not, sugar coating issues, and soft peddling does no one any favors. it creates a false sense of security. This is why, I was one of the few teachers that actually failed students if they did not successfully achieve the… Read more »
PJ Robertson
Member

Aha, Peter, I see you have promoted yourself to capital P! Great. So, since you “never hold grudges,” on to R, S, and… T?

peter
Guest

@ PJ

I am not sure I follow RST

Am I not correctly spelling something. I know I purposely type a small t, but the others ??? IF, so, I may now need a glass to put over the keys

peter
Guest

@ PJ

“I never hold grudges , but I NEVER forget”

Gordie Howe

PJ Robertson
Member

A joke, peter/Peter. Travelling along the alphabet to your favourite trio of R (just in case) for yours truly, S for Simpson, T for…well, you know who.

PJ Robertson
Member

“What Issues Would Trigger a Canadian to Actually Vote?” You ask, Jamie.

Well, how about $3.1 BILLION reportedly missing and unaccounted for from the Harper Conservatives’ anti-terrorism budget?

peter
Guest
@ PJ It is my understanding that this 3.1 biliion was over a 10 year period, Harper was elected 7 years ago. It is also my understanding that these funds were lost, or misplaced over 35 different government departments. it is also my understanding that no one walked out the door, with these funds, a la the sponsorship scandal There was a representative from the treasury board on CFRA yesterday. She said that these types of misplaced funds is not uncommon over a ten year period . What happens is that any surplus funds usually is put back into the… Read more »
edudyorlik
Guest
@ALL RE: POSTED question by PJ Robertson ON May 1, 2013 at 10:58 am PJ asked… “What Issues Would Trigger a Canadian to Actually Vote?” You ask, Jamie. Well, how about $3.1 BILLION reportedly missing and unaccounted for from the Harper Conservatives’ anti-terrorism budget?'” Ah yes, plenty of deflection and rarely a word from “that side” when confronted with the HUGE amount of money wasting boondoggles by provincial Liberals: Ornge, E-health, the latest billion on electric plants etc etc… But no time wasted in jumping on the band wagon when the Auditor General shows this missing amount . Which btw,… Read more »
peter
Guest

@ edudyorlik

Couldn’t have said better my self.

Notice, no pro trudeauites or liberals heard from on these issues, just complain about legal attack ads on JT

OH yeah, the JT whose reaction to the Boston bombings was,we must find out why they did this.

NOT, about the poor innocents that were killed or maimed are doing. Not word one about sympathy or how they are doing

It is reactions like this, that reflects inexperience and a lack of sensitivity towards fellow human beings. Perhaps he can consult Castro, his dad’s bud on these terrorist bombings.

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