LTE – Eric Little on the costs of Duality and Bilingualism in Canada – May 22, 2013

LTE – Eric Little on the costs of Duality and Bilingualism in Canada – May 22, 2013

Canada TOPOI doubt very many people ever heard of the People’s Alliance of New Brunswick or Kris Austin for that matter. Last year though, he spoke of how expensive duality is in cost and to people. Not actual bilingual service, but separate buildings, administration and associated costs to provide for each language on an individual basis. Just like the rest of Canada, few people want to discuss it, but are ecstatic to help with every other culture. We have Black history month, Asian heritage month, National Aboriginal history month, Women’s history month, Multiculturism day, National Acadian day, National Aboriginal day, and Aboriginal Awareness Week (is not even in the Aboriginal history month by the way). Ontario is not to be out done with 6 special months and several special days representing Canada’s multiculturism which continues to show our openness I assume.http://metronews.ca/news/canada/383741/new-brunswick-party-says-duality-costly/ http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2012/10/18/nb-duality-debate-647.html

But no one wants to talk about how this duality is morphing into separate buildings, administration and having the majority learn another language or, increasingly, no job for you. Bilingual services are one thing away from Quebec, but when the percentage of bilingual speakers in Canada stays well below 20% for decades (most of which are in Quebec only), when do we make a change or at least discuss the actual need? Our Canadian government has prepared another billion dollars plus road map towards showing the world our duality strategy. But we only talk about providing more, not what we actually need and, why we use Visa to pay Mastercard for all of this. http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1358263602229

Be sure you check the calendar to be a part of the next Linguistic Duality Day! The Council of the Network of Official Languages Champions created a 75 page PDF booklet as a collection of Official Languages resources. Of the 236 groups, each with a dedicated government employee champion I will add, you will see things like “FRUNCHS” where the Public Safety employees in Nova Scotia can practice French over lunch, promotional posters, quizzes and awards. Of course French outweighs English promotion here, but is this how you want your governments using your tax dollars and their time? http://osez-dare.ainc-inac.gc.ca/ldd/index-eng.asp

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stellabystarlight
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We are so very lucky to live in such a diverse country where all are treated the same.

We should be thankful for the gov programs that are helping all Canadians and ethnic groups, other countries are not so fortunate. We become diversified which in turn will help everyone integrate into the true Canadian culture.

Edudyorlik
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They sure are going — ALL OUT — aren’t they? It feels like this si the final push to entrench things as they feel the heat at their rear ends because people are waking up. As for “Linguistic Duality Day” from what i can tell that is just about every freakin holiday in this country with their PUSH for this country to be totally bilingual. Heaven forbid. NO ENGLISH bands, language or cultural equality — for that matter Canadian flags — to be seen in Quebec on St Jean day but Canada day (and as i said every other freakiin… Read more »
Kim Khoo
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When a minority is given equal status to the majority, it does not create equality. It creates inequality, unfairness and great division. Every kid in school understands that democracy means, “rule by the majority, for the benefit of the majority” – there can be NO other definition!!! Only by draconian laws can a minority be given the advantage that makes their intrinsic claim to their minority-status become the measure by which to measure equality. A minority language that is rarely heard outside the boundaries of Quebec, N. B. & Eastern Ontario is being forced on the whole country – a… Read more »
Suan H.Booiman
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In response to Mr.Little’s outstanding article, wondering if people care about the 7 billion dollar gravy train for the French language.
Personal learned when the subject is brought up people show
the care, however after all the years of facing a political brick wall
they have surrendered. The high promises of the present government never came to reality, is doubtful that they ever will.
The need to keep up the objection is there, regardless the supremacy of the bilingual senior bureaucrats. in Ottawa, the
better Canadians..

peter
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@ Eric,

Absolutely wonderful. I will forward this far and wide.

More amunition to get quebec OUT of Canada.

bella-b
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Stella said : “… which in turn will help everyone integrate into the true Canadian culture.”

What is “true Canadian culture”? I’ve heard this many many times, but have never understood what it means. Please explain your comment and define this “Canadian culture”.

Richard tremblay
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ahhh kim, so in your own words the majority should rule with an iron fist. No one is being forced to do anything they don’t want to do. HAve you learned french ? Si je te parle en français peux-tu me répondre ? The majority of canadians get along wether your french english spanish asian white black. Imagine if we would do like kim said and reward canadians just for being part of the majority. In her words if your english, you shouldn’t have to learn french. That is an insult to every anglophone that i know.
Donna G.
Guest
A very good article. I am personally fed up with French zealots pushing their language demands down our throats while WE pay for it! Our unilingual English children are consistently kept out of the job market, especially in the Ottawa area, because of the demand for ‘bilingual’ requirements to fill many jobs! Our schools are spending a fortune providing French instruction to our kids to prepare them for the growing demand for French! It is disgusting and I am becoming more and more militant in resisting the constant bullying by Quebec! Quebec is not bilingual but the rest of us… Read more »
Donna G.
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Ah, Richard T. It seems that you have been schooled in the bilingual education tradition as I notice that you have no idea as to where to put a capital letter when you express yourself in the English language? Perhaps less French instruction and more English instruction for you, and for so many others who cannot formulate a proper sentence in English, would be in order? Just a suggestion.

David Oldham
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@STELLABYSTARLIGHT Diversification has no relationship with UNIFICATION. This blind faith in multiculturalism somehow being the answer to world peace is simply nonsense. If more people would simply use their ability to reason they would understand after pondering the concept that it is the very reason why we truly do not have a specific Canadian culture. What we do have in Canada is a growing number of isolated pockets of people who share commonalities. Look at the major cities in Canada and you will see that specific areas of each city have become represented by specific cultural groups. This very result… Read more »
Highlander
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bella-b May 23, 2013 at 5:42 am “What is “true Canadian culture”? I’ve heard this many many times, but have never understood what it means. Please explain your comment and define this “Canadian culture”.” True Canadian culture ?well our Francophone folks say if its wasn’t for Quebec and French we would be” American light”. I find it Odd that we “CANADIANS ” are a diverse well over 200 cultures yet we would not have a culture if it wasn’t for french . What has given French the impetus that they are superior to all other cultures within Canada ? LEGISLATION… Read more »
Highlander
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Richard tremblay May 23, 2013 at 7:00 am “Imagine if we would do like kim said and reward canadians just for being part of the majority. In her words if your english, you shouldn’t have to learn french.” Richard imagine if you rewarded Canadians just because you are a minority ? As this happens in Canada with preferential government jobs for that <12% (government graded). Should anyone be forced to learn a particular language as you imply here ,very ethnocentric of you ! It should remain a choice of language whether it be French /English or multilingual to do otherwise… Read more »
edudyorlik
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@Donna G. Re: post on May 23, 2013 at 7:06 am Well said Donna. Most of what you are saying is outlined in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD-mHpMpBSw&hd=1 This predominant journalist in the province of Quebec who, beginning at 1:18 of this video say’s, “we accept the fact that we live in some kind of theater of the absurd, it’s a fact of life in Quebec. We just try to keep these things quiet and not let the whole world see what we’re up to but i mean, it really speaks to the bizarreness of life here” is telling us how to… Read more »
David Oldham
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Jews, Christians and Muslims alike have a commonality in a well known collection of writings called the old testament. Contained therein are the ten commandments. If we remove the concept of religion to embody atheists and other groups that do not give credence to the old testament than I would assert that treating others as you would have them treat you is simply a good concept that would promote peace, understanding and tolerance. The unfortunate reality is that governments world wide cannot legislate common sense. So we as humans will continue to succumb to jealousy, envy and hatred until the… Read more »
peter
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@ Donna G, David, Highlander, Edudyorlik, Eric ,Susan, Kim

Right on .

@ trembly

What part of “We do not want bilingualism”, do you not understand. If this is offensive to you, move to quebec, vote oui and bonne chance.

Richard tremblay
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Pete, you are saying we, who does that include ? Language fairness association, well with with all do respect to those members, logic sometimes eludes them. Donna, capital letters ?hahaha. So you just proved me right. you can’t criticize the argument so you criticize the grammar. I’ ll make to points on that subject. I really don’t care about my written grammar, the job that I have doesn’t require me to write in shakespearian english or for that matter in french comparable to Molière. Your argument doesn’t hold water. In an emergency situation, to unlingual francos or anglos no matter… Read more »
Eric
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Richard, Quebec reports 4,047,015 ( all of Canada is just 4,165,015) as French only speakers and another 3,328,725 as Eng/Fr speaking ( all of Canada is only 5,795,575). You can do the math with Quebec numbers removed to see why English Canada is pushing back.

“no one is forced to learn any language” Richard, these government road maps are more than just knocking on a door!

Highlander
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Richard tremblay May 23, 2013 at 2:54 pm “Howard no one is forced to learn any language. Are you suggesting that 8 million people have to learn english to please the majority ? ” It remains a choice -well with exception of government and its social engineering! Richard are you saying that 24 million people have to learn french to please the minority? Richard tremblay May 23, 2013 at 7:00 am ” Imagine if we would do like kim said and reward canadians just for being part of the majority. In her words if your english, you shouldn’t have to… Read more »
Highlander
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Eric May 23, 2013 at 3:52 pm Great numbers to prove your argument _Therefore the country promotes social engineering and legislates it on 30 million for those 4 million people …..things that would make other countries go WHAT IS THAT? Its called social engineering which never should exist in a democracy -but in our quasi democracy it does! Wasn’t Richard the one that stated 280 million french speakers in the world -he well over shot that as well ,but when it comes to “THE AGENDA” it matter not what the fallacy of numbers as long as the propaganda exists! Let… Read more »
peter
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@ trembly

The `we` are the 83% English that do not want to be forced into bilingualism they neither want nor feel i is necessary.

As for logic, since 28 million Canadians, deem it unnecessary to be dictated to by 7 million francophones, of which 90% come from quebec. that has OUTLAWED English in its jurisdiction.

Not only is it logical, but extremely reasonable.

What part of this do you not comprehend

peter
Guest

@ stella

recently, both France and England, proclaimed that multiculturalism is a failure. How are we benefiting from this policy ????

In western countries around the globe , integration has led to terror attacks, the loss of majority rights and increases in crime.

have you heard of what happened in England yesterday???

Are you kidding, me, we need to take back Canada. Get quebec out and then rewrite the Canadian constitution to reflect what our fathers of confederation wanted freedom , absolute freedom for all, in a majority ruled society, as democracy demands.

Edudyorlik
Guest
@Peter. I believe Germany also got rid of the failed concept of multiculturalism as well. Let’s not forget. Quebec wants nothing to do with any other cultures but the French culture. They treat the immigrants there about as bad as they treat the English Canadian citizens. Pure laine all the way.. disgusting to note that the sheer thought of how the Separatist Francophone government in this era is treating my fellow Canadians in the province of Quebec conjures up a clear image of the NeoNazi — Aryan race (blond blue eyed) — concept that was so distasteful in that era.… Read more »
Barry Renouf
Guest

– Privatize the CBC
– Quebec separates
– Abolish the Official Languages Act

Priceless!

Orlin Olsen
Guest

Quebec is the albatross around Canada’s neck. It has set the stage for many of the problems that beset the nation. By pandering to the never ending demands of this one selfish entity the entire country suffers needlessly. Canadians outside of Quebec do not need the French language and habitant culture. Quebec needs Canada much more than Canada needs it.

Cory Cameron
Guest
Thanks Eric for the informative article. Again, why are these billions of dollars set aside for this failing policy to make Canada French and yet there are thousands of Canadians for whom aren’t meeting the basics of adequate food, shelter or clothing? Why aren’t disappearing Aboriginal languages promoted or protected by the setting aside of billions of taxpayer dollars. Why isn’t this money set aside to repair our crumbling infrastructure? Remember folks the government of Ontario insists that French education is the best choice for your child’s education. Are you going to keep drinking the cool aid that is fed… Read more »
Eric
Guest
For a province with 751,171 people, a defict nearing a billion per year and a debt of 10 billion, should every program and cost not be looked at? Ontario is certainly not in any better fiscal shape! From http://WWW.ASNB.CA – Dear Editor, Recent reports from government sources and others indicate that our province is in a serious financial position. Several individuals through letters to the editor and other forms of media are suggesting ways to slay the deficit and reduce the debt, but will any advice be taken seriously? Little does the average New Brunswicker know how much funding is… Read more »
peter
Guest
@ trembly If you bothered to read all of the above comments, you would see it is painfully evident that many, many Canadians want quebec out and bilingualism gone. These are people from eastern Ontario trembly. You may want to see how people west of Prescott Ontario think as well. If you think they are anti-bilingualism , you haven t seen anything yet. Try going around the country, and then you get a true sense of how Canadians feet about forced bilingualism and the policies of the quebec government. Most want no bilingualism and quebec out of Canada. Don’t believe… Read more »
Sharon
Guest
I am what the French have termed an Anglophone. (Anyone who isn’t French) I was educated in English and live in a mainly English town. Like my Anglo contemporaries, I sent my child to French Nursery school, junior and senior kindergarten in Quebec and then from Grade 6 on, to French immersion in Ontario. I didn’t want him to be disadvantaged like his parents were in Montreal in the 70’s and 80’s. After he finished grade 8 with a high average I sent my Son to an English high school in Montreal, only to have him fail his 45 minute… Read more »
edudyorlik
Guest
@Sharon RE: POST on May 25, 2013 at 6:21 am Sharon wrote, “After he finished grade 8 with a high average I sent my Son to an English high school in Montreal, only to have him fail his 45 minute a day French class and have to go to summer school to catch up.” I feel for you Sharon. There are many of us in this country that share similar stories. Or stories of not being able to get work because of this issue, or stories of being pushed out of our work because of this issue … That being… Read more »
Cory Cameron
Guest
Sharon, Thank you for sharing that information with us. If stories like the one you detailed here were a rare event than many of us wouldn’t be so concerned with this language issue. However, there are thousands of us across the country who have been negatively impacted by these unfair language laws that favour hiring French over merit for jobs. This used to be only in civil service positions but the practice has now also been adopted in the private sector as well. If you read the past blogs you’ll find thousands of comments and hundreds of stories about this… Read more »
edudyorlik
Guest

@ Cory RE: POST May 27, 2013 at 8:49 am
Well said Cory.

@ ALL.
Watch this video and help save Nova Scotia from “FRUNCHS.”

Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWcMg6pKxHg&hd=1

Eric
Guest

Interesting video, it shows Trudeau JR has not changed his stripes (since Mansbridge had hair) and is consistent with comments he made this week about Quebec.
I also like how you have French people are not the problem listed near the end, and ask Anglo’s to speak up for themselves.

Highlander
Guest
Eric May 28, 2013 at 6:16 am Yes it is an interesting video ,as well as JT remains only interested in Quebec -welcome to regional politics -Can you imagine if Harper had stated “the Alberta is better and they should rule the country”. Wow that would put whats happening to Rob Ford at the moment to shame as the left wing media including “the state run CBC” would crucify him in the press ,but hey only a whisper when Trudeau said it ! “I also like how you have French people are not the problem listed near the end, and… Read more »
NB
Guest
Its being pushed very hard in NB, you have no idea. The acadian society and our premier met a couple days ago to discuss immigration and language in the public sector. This meeting never went public however was published in a french newspaper: Full Translation: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 SAINT-QUENTIN – The SANB emerged satisfied with his meeting with Premier David Alward Wednesday in Saint-Quentin. The government will announce a number of measures that fall on immigration and language of work in the public service. “If we take the Francophone immigration, for example, you realize that the government has the… Read more »
highlander
Guest

New Brunswick had one of the highest prevalence of children living in food-insecure households at 25% behind Nunavut, Prince Edward Island.

It appears that New Brunswick is more concerned of what words come out of their mouth then the food that goes in.

Duality has cost the average person far more then the goverment will admit to ,it is truly sad that it has come at the cost of the disadvantaged.

I guess that would prefer the people go hungry .

stellabystarlight
Guest

This is Ontario!!! We have enough of our own problems to deal with.

Thinking what is happening in Cairo and all over the Middle East may have a bigger impact on us all in the future……more so then language issues.

NB
Guest
stellabystarlight yep Ontario has its own problems, NB is living proof that such programs are not working and Ontario should be ready to fight it. NB is in a horrible financial state, the statistics are there and yet the government continues to push it. Anglophone community got to realize their rights are slowly being taken away, these non public meetings are just an example of whats being done to push the minority ahead. As it stands if your not bilingual you have no future in NB, you either learn the second language or leave NB. They say bilingualism is NB’s… Read more »
NB
Guest

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2012/09/24/nb-duality-health-parrott-631.html

Look a MLA doing his job gets kicked from caucus, A MLA who’s job is to listen to the people and bring those concerns to government.

Highlander
Guest
stellabystarlight August 17, 2013 at 8:33 am “This is Ontario!!! We have enough of our own problems to deal with.” You see stella LANGUAGE APARTHEID is not just a local issue ,nor just a Quebec issue or New Brunswick and now PEI ,it is spreading like a virus ,and yet the people do not have a say or vote on it ! This is not democracy ,if it were….let the people vote on it ! All language laws have never been voted on by the people but the politicians of which INTEREST GROUPS have their ear and rewards. LANGUAGE APARTHEID… Read more »
Furtz
Guest

And don’t forget the horror of living in northern Ontario, where some low-life might speak to you in French. Surly real Canadians shouldn’t have to put up with abuse like that.

NB
Guest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oeuNZrnsn4&feature=youtu.be

Here’s a interview Kris Austin did yesterday

Highlander
Guest
Furtz August 18, 2013 at 6:48 pm “And don’t forget the horror of living in northern Ontario, where some low-life might speak to you in French. Surly real Canadians shouldn’t have to put up with abuse like that.” NOW YOU ARE CALLING PEOPLE WHO SPEAK FRENCH LOW LIFE’S ……AND YOU CONSIDER THIS CONSTRUCTIVE ? YOUR WHOLE POINT IS TO AGITATE AND I THINK YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO FRENCH SPEAKERS FOR YOUR COMMENT AS THAT WAS DEGRADING EVEN THOUGH YOUR INTENT WAS TO PROMOTE HATE ! REMEMBER IT IS NOT THE FRENCH PEOPLE WE DISAGREE WITH ITS THE GOVERNMENT POLICIES… Read more »
Eric
Guest

Great link NB, refreshing to hear concepts like allowing MLA’s to vote for THEIR areas and common sense over language decisions. Unlike the divisive stir the pot “information” added by Furtz.

Highlander
Guest
NB August 20, 2013 at 6:59 am Thanks for the link NB ,people need to realize that these unfair language laws are not just locally in Cornwall but across the country. Great interview and he describes it as LANGUAGE APARTHEID it is becoming a common term with regards to these language laws . He talks of the duality system as segregation and clearly it is ,what of the so called inclusion that bilingualism was supposed to bring about ? The Acadian society has advocated for segregation and duality of services at a very costly taxpayers expense whatever happened to inclusion?… Read more »
NB
Guest

Another story in 2011:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2011/07/05/nb-tait-wilson-apology-language-307.html

2 MLA’s doing what they should be doing, forced to apologize.

Cory Cameron
Guest

Thanks NB for your link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oeuNZrnsn4&feature=youtu.be

What a good, informative interview!

NB
Guest

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/08/22/5672147/minister-shelly-glover-announces.html

Take a look at funding that was just announced here in New Brunswick.

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