Fall Fest 2013 Flat as Fans Flee Is the Kinsmen Brand Tainted in Cornwall Ontario? by Jamie Gilcig

Fall Fest 2013 Flat as Fans Flee  Is the Kinsmen Brand Tainted in Cornwall Ontario?  by Jamie Gilcig

kinsmen cornwallCFN – I was bewildered when I got a missive from Terry Muir last winter or so.   After all I’d had to issue suit against Ribfest for reneging on our promotional contract.

CFN had been first media sponsor in for the travelling pigfest, a professional show that you really would have to screw up to fail.   The public really seems to like to  lineup for over priced pork slathered in sugary sauce munched out of styrofoam containers.   I get that.

Terry was upset with Phil Shorey, which I can get because Phil frankly is a detestable little toe rag.   Terry had all sorts of juicy allegations; but without him stepping out into the public or providing hard evidence there wasn’t much we or any media outlet could do.

The piggly wiggly Lion’s club or whatever Phil is running broke with Terry or vice versa.

Lift Off meanwhile, responded to the success of Ribfest by cutting their talent roster.   They were smoked, cooked, steamed, and served in styrofoam containers themselves as they drew the lowest crowd in a decade and stand on the precipice of folding in time for their 20th Anniversary this year.

I actually contacted Jason Jesmer prior to this year’s LO and asked if they wanted our promotional assistance which if Mr. Jessmer is to be believed, and why not, he’s got that stoic manner, has tattoos, and likes live music, his board rejected our offer which was the same deal as we had in 2010 when we helped Lift Off have their biggest crowd ever.

After this year’s disaster I officially offered my experience of having run over 200 live events including being co-promoter of the 1994 NHL All Star Game event at the Palais des Congres in Montreal.   So far I have not had a reply.  (am not holding my breath, but at least some of the drattier members of the kool aid drinkers can’t say I didn’t sincerely offer to help)

Back to Terry Muir.    I was apprehensive when Fallfest was announced because of that Kinsmen thingy.   Our local group are a swiny clique with Rick Shaver and his snout leading the way; but it’s my job to try and support the community I call home no matter how discombobulated some of the poobahs can be.

A sheepish Terry suggested I could write free stories about Fallfest if I wanted and then signed up with Corus radio, and of course the Rick Shaver managed Seaway we don’t really cover news because it could upset Bob Peters who then won’t give us $20K per year to produce Cornwall Living which only the clique read  News .

So I ignored Fallfest, as most of Cornwall and the area did.  (Contrary to some lies and rumors I don’t write bad things about people just because they refuse to advertise or work with CFN)   The weekend event drew about 3,000 people with a high total suggested of 5,000, far less than the 10,000 that Mr. Muir hoped for.

We live in a town, ney world even, where for some odd reason charities and groups seem to have zero understanding of why things work.  I mean the Children’s Treatment Centre gives exclusivity to the Freeholder.   It’s kinda insane if you think about it…

If you want a community event to work you have to reach out to all media; not just one outlet.  You really do have to be inclusive or be really really good at faking it.  But mostly you have to offer someone more than cover bands in the rain on short notice.

I know Terry had issues; for example we had reports come in that Ribfest told its vendors that if they did Fallfest they could not come back to Ribfest.    Phil Shorey refused to answer our queries on this one.

Either way hopefully one day people in this wonderful city will learn that you get more by playing nice with each other than trying to feel superior to others when you yourselves really are inferior for the most part (don’t believe me?  Check out the VIP tent at Lift Off!  Who dresses these people?).

If you are asking people to volunteer to help your event.  If you are claiming to represent the community.    If you are trying to look cool; why on earth would you exclude any group that wanted to help?

See, the Kinsmen and some of their silly cliquester friends don’t like myself.  I get that; but what do they have against our 60,000 unique visitors per month, the most of any media in the region?   Foot, bullet holes, shot…I know you smarter viewers shake your heads and get it and the cliqsters just froth at the mouth and giggle.   Like I said, it’s a silly world, and sadly not just Cornwall.

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Bob “Vienna Sausage” Peters (and stop emailing me asking what Vienna Sausage means) They’ve already sent me one threatening legal letter about pinchy cheeks above.

Will a 20th Lift Off happen?  Will it be any different than the 19th?  Will Bob Peters get a hair piece?   I just don’t know…

Will these rocket scientists trying to run events figure it out or will we have more Cornwall duds?  Is there any hope for a city that draws more facebook likes in two weeks to a page that utterly trashes itself and should we change the slogan of Cornwall from “a City of Possibilities” to perhaps “a City of Possibilities if you get along with the corrupt cliques?”

Things can and will change.  The question is will they happen in our lifetimes or not….

In the meanwhile the Kinsmen have attached their name to another dog event.   Another failure at the hands of Rick Shaver and his friends.   It’s kinda sad….

You can and I know most likely will post your comments below.

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STEVE BERGERON
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wow Jamie I couldnt have said things any better . Here we are Cornwallites trying our best to bring out the best in this city and still we have the top citizens thinking there better the rest of the citizens acting for the best of the community. I still dont get this town we try our best to help out to promote our events yet we have the organizers turning their heads at us. It is as if they are puppets with the higher ups pulling their strings. All we can do is keep at them keep on trying to… Read more »
Diddlysquatt
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Jamie for MAYOR?

Colleen
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We didn’t go to Fall Fest. The only reason we knew it was going on was because Switch Gear was promoting it all over Facebook. But honestly, the weather wasn’t all that great. Obviously many other people felt the same way about not wanting to bundle up, drag chairs down and sit in soggy grass.

jules
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LOL LOL. ROLF! Jamie you described him as “Vienna Sausage” and that was the cleanest thing that could be printed. I was thinking something else but you cannot print it. You know very well what I mean. I have been saying it for years now and that dirty clique is what is taking Cornwall down to the sewer. Soon nothing will be left in that town at all. The people themselves will have to change for the better and get a real backbone and go against all this clique or it will literally die a permanent death and that is… Read more »
Angie
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Jamie, this piece does media a huge disservice. If you have an issue and you want it to be given consideration, present it with less-obvious bias (‘less-obvious’ because I recognize that all media outlets have some sort of bias, but many do better at hiding it). You lost me a third of the way in because I was so distracted by the pointless and overly-wordy side remarks that (I think) were supposed to explain why there were issues with various people. What were you trying to accomplish with this piece? a public humiliation of Bob Peters? a trashing of Lift… Read more »
Lee Theodore
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I will begin this response by saying there is a lot of mish-mashing of information that is taking place and I am not going to try an separate every inaccurate point you have written but I will address what is on my mind and closet to my heart. The Kinsmen Lift Off is an entity unto itself. The title is afforded through payment to help the committee that runs it to execute on the decisions they see fit to execute on. The Lift Off event is separate from the Kinsmen Club altogether. This is similar to the Canadian Tire Center… Read more »
jules
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Bare Ass, Bob Peters, Latour and all the rest of them think that they are better than others and the “best kept secret is” that they are not better than anyone else. Cornwall has a very strange mentality and this has been going on far too long and even before these bozos appeared on site. The only difference is that it has worsen over time. There are plenty of things that people wish that they could say but cannot. No newspaper, TV or any other form of media says the complete truth. The big media moguls put out bimbos to… Read more »
Robby Muir
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I’ve read this article, in which you put down my father, Terry, (amongst so many others that you’ve put down) and I’m amazed. There are so many things I’d like to say but won’t as my father taught me better; that’s the kind of man he is. I’m not sure how it is helpful to put down our community and those within in that put forth such an effort to create these wonderful events. I’m not sure if you, or others who are also being quite negative and judgemental, have been involved in the creation of such an event. You… Read more »
CornwallFreakNews
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Hunter S. Thompson admitted he was high on LSD while writing
That was shortly before he blew his brains out while his son was in the house
My question..What are you on Jamie???

and why..as I travel around Cornwall..Do so many mild mannered people from all walks of life say..They wished they had punched you in the snout???

Reg Coffey
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A lot of the mild mannered people in Cornwall have been trained to believe that ignorance is bliss. They simply don’t appreciate having their heads pulled out of the sand to see the light of day.

They firmly believe in shooting the messenger.

Jimmy Olsen
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Lee,

The Lions Club that sponsored “Ribfest” was the Cornwall Seaway Lions Club. The original Lions Club in Cornwall, is the Cornwall Lions Club. Two totally different Lion Clubs, both run totally separate by their own board. Their seemed to be some confusion in your essay. Just for clarification.

jane
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Jamie, kudos to you for having an opinion and having enough self conviction to stand up for it. Everyone has a right to free speech, just as everyone has the right to form their own opinions. I read this and enjoyed it. The comments perplex me. “Chosen to play in the sandbox”??? I’m sorry, but it the sh*tbox- I mean “sandbox” you are referring to is Cornwall, well we all have equal rights to it as citizens, and the fact that you can say “chosen” means that you obviously are a “cliquester” -and advocate “choosing” to be allowed to play… Read more »
jane
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When will people start being accountable for themselves, their words and their actions and also holding others to being accountable instead of helping to “try” to bury each other’s messes under the cloak of “business”. Whatever happened to the common good??? The common bad that is everywhere is despicable.

*I say “try” because time and history has a way of exposing people for who they really are. I look forward to finding out Cornwall’s Hitlers.

annonymity_is_key
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Well done Lee!!!

StellaTheFella
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RightReverendThohmasJJNewTOWN

Well THE BOSS LEARNED…mess with the baby jesus and they flag your post LOL on Standard Freeholder
http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2013/09/15/new-cornwall-bridge-at-heart-of-future-plans

really….he mentioned (CFN)fedoraboy…and they took down his comment but using retarded is OK?????..sunnews..cfn…its gettin hard to tell

THE BOSS This comment was flagged for review

all he said to the rev was if u want news go to cfn..and they flagged it..

CornwallFreakNews
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Jane…do you get out and around your city
I wasn’t threatening to Jamie…just found it so very surprising that his CONDUCT..not his words on this page…have so many people upset…that MOST say they held back from hitting him was surprising

THE BOSS
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Thank-you Stella, Gee, I hadn’t noticed that the Freeholder had censored my comments ! Pretty sad, I must say ! Their was nothing vulgar, obscene about my comments whatsoever. I didn’t realize that they had enough employees there, to do this ? Even, their “ol buddy” Mac, made mention of their small numbers. I guess, that’s the difference between the two outlets (CFN & Freeholder), case in point, the thesis that “Lee” wrote yesterday. Very well written, giving his personal opinion in great detail, basically giving Jamie a series of jabs, reminiscent of the “thrilla in Manilla”, but Jamie allowed… Read more »
reality check
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A smart man looks at all sides of a problem or controversy and reads between the lines he then draws his own conclusions based on the preponderance of evidence Bravo Jamie for creating the controversy and bravo to the readers who agree or agree to disagree. Domtar’s stink has gone and now there several different stinks to replace it CFN is a needed source as a checks and balance replacing those little building with snorkels in the air like the one by the bridge and the one behind the cenotaph on 3rd street guarding against dangers .
Jack Lalonde
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Great letter Lee Theodore, you said what so many of us are thinking…Jamie most people come here to laugh at what you think is truly going on in this wonderful city, there’s one way to make yourself look better & that’s to knock others down..and that’s exactly what you do.

Devils Advocate
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I gotta chime in here. First off Lee, don’t point out peoples grammatical errors when your essay is full of them as well. I actually found a spot where you forgot to close quotations as well as some very obvious redundancies. Another thing is that though your premise is sound and I agree with what you are “trying” to say but you are going about it the wrong way. {MODERATED BECAUSE THE POSTER IS TALKING OUT OF HIS BUM BUM} The CFN network is driven by its traffic and its advertisers that benefit from the high volumes of targeted Cornwall… Read more »
garfield
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@Terry…. well said. One important correction however… Ribfest was sponsored by Cornwall SEAWAY Lions Club and NOT the Cornwall Lions Club… although both do good work and dedicate themselves to community service, there is a world of difference between the two. I absolute agree with your comments regarding the Kinsmen Club and have relayed such similar comment to Jamie and CFN in past.{MODERATED BECAUSE THE POSTER IS TALKING OUT OF HIS BUM BUM} Regarding Lift-Off, the Kinsmen Club simply pay a sponsorship fee, so as to financially assist a community event that is a positive benefit to Cornwall. The Kinsmen… Read more »
CornwallFreakNews
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Jamie moderates..as is his right SF moderates..but very strangely The Boss They took down your post ..and your right…it only said look to cfn for news..but they left up a guy claiming xxx were taking payoffs So saying C..F..N is now officially..a SF flag offense BUT..this is fine and remains up http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2013/09/12/serious-risks-in-growing-pot-opp u can read the correct version at the link..i don’t want to give this thought any more credibility Tkkn Coon Who’s to say the “POLICE” aren’t already on the XXXXX It’s not hard for the XXXXXX to get rid of it for a good profit cuase all the… Read more »
Devils Advocate
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I like how you moderate stuff that you know is true but you don’t want other people to know. You are just as bad as any other news outlet with censoring information you do not like. You talk about being a free news network and yet when someone (who was on your side) posts their opinion about the matter you censor it because it had cold hard truths . You really should have not have censored my post cause you have now turned a powerful alley into a someone who can crush you.

Hungry for the Truth....
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Hungry for the Truth....
Lee Theodore September 16, 2013 at 2:00 pm “If I had to answer your second last paragraph, personally, I would say the only group that I would exclude from helping would be the one that poisons the well.” “Shame on you Gilcig for poisoning the well.” If this really is what you believe, why not put the BLAME where the blame belongs. It was long before Jamie Gilcig arrived as a Citizen and Entrepreneur in Cornwall that the well was poisoned. CFN nor Jamie should not be made to bare responsibility for others protectionist attitudes and selective inclusion practices that… Read more »
Michael Clifton
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CFN – keep on shining that light! I can only laugh when reading the angry responses to your editorials. Believe it or not folks, service groups sometimes error in judgment (it’s a human thing). Should same service groups be above the scrutiny of the public who help fund the entity’s philanthropic gestures – I DON”T THINK SO.

David Oldham
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LEE THEODORE I waded through your rather plodding discourse and give you the respect of having an opinion. You quite obviously do not grasp the nature of this online forum judging from your sensitive and passionate critique. But please consider in your thought process regarding this forum the simple truth that your voice was heard and not censored as it probably would have been in other forums. I may be in the same boat as JAMIE, your analogy between the Senators losing a game and the Canadian Tire Centre suggests that if Lift Off does not meet the grade one… Read more »
jules
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So many have put Jamie down here and nobody remembers what Jamie posted not very long ago that he and his wife tried to volunteer and those in the organizations shunned them and didn’t want their services. I remember that so very well and that it is implanted in me and yes I believe that fully since I was born and grew up in Cornwall. I was a teenage volunteer at both Cornwall’s hospitals and the work that we did then would make your stomachs turn and we did it for nothing. What did I get in return? No job… Read more »
Dan
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Jamie,
I read this and my first thought was that you must be related to Rob Ford…which means 1) you will certainly reply and 2) you will find someway to rationalize your b.s.

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