Should Cornwall Transit Workers Go on Strike Over Wages? I say no by Jamie Gilcig POLL

Should Cornwall Transit Workers Go on Strike Over Wages?  I say no by Jamie Gilcig  POLL

jg2CFN – Bus drivers in Cornwall Ontario are mulling whether to go on strike.  They cite low wages and a low offer of only about 2% from the city.

What I think many of them don’t realize is that taxes have been going up for many reasons, mostly the wrong ones, but they have been going up.

Where does it end?  Is it fair to compare wages for bus drivers or any service funded by taxpayers in a city the size of Cornwall to Ottawa or Toronto?  Really?

The problem is that in Cornwall like many cities we have politicians, especially when fighting for their political lives like the pathetic mess that our mayor and council are collectively, that will capitulate to unions hoping to get member support at the ballot box.

Where does that end?   While transit service is very important where is that extra money supposed to come from?   We already have under used buses zipping around; will raising fares help that situation?

I think most of our Cornwall Transit team are awesome and provide a needed service.   I also think that this union should take the 2% can smile because in Cornwall far more people will not be getting any raise and would be grateful just to have a job than watch these guys and gals try and score a big deal that our weak politicians would most likely pony up.

It’s time for our mayor and council to stand up for taxpayers and draw a line.

 

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David Oldham
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DERECK Winnipegtransit.com Job posting #110236.

Pray do tell exactly how it was that I “attacked” bus drivers DEREK ?

You seem so obsessed to obtain your entitlements DEREK that you are blinded to reality. You go on and on and on about other city employees having sick days that you do not have and then say that others are coming across as “bitter”. Really?

Good luck

reality check
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Derek yesterday as in yesterday usually yesterday occurs the day before you say the word so i believe yesterday was in 2013 correct me if i am wrong it was on the CBC news you can get all the details there as for knowing what your demanding you keep telling us we know and then we are wrong I have asked you many times to put your demands here so people here can know exactly whats been asked for me the more i read the more confusing it gets be nice if you could type it exactly as it written… Read more »
Derek Sheppard
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Re Winnipeg Transit
Sir we know all the sites across North America and most of the world you do not have to send anything to me

Hope you and family are well sir make it a great day
Regards
Derek

Derek Sheppard
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Re Jules

So Winnipeg Transit drivers make more than us in Cornwall ?
Thanks

Derek Sheppard
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TO Diane Shay, Bob Keenan ( yesterdays freeholder) thanks for the support, appreciate it

Derek

David Oldham
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Transit drivers in Winnipeg SHOULD make more money than drivers in Cornwall it is an entirely different situation. Cornwall is a small community it takes 10 minutes to get anywhere within the city limits by vehicle. Why do you think so many of our police officers are from the Toronto area, DEREK ? Perhaps less risk, stress, etc. You tell me, DEREK, to get my facts straight, I give you my source and then you tell me that you are already informed of the information provided by myself. So you knew that the facts were correct and took a unnecessary… Read more »
Elzoiey
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Good luck Derek Sheppard and ATU Local 946 !! I hope you all get a fair deal 🙂

David Oldham
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REALITY CHECK privatization would be a win win situation not only for taxpayers but more importantly the ridership and the drivers. Buses are expensed on a 365 day basis but not utilized at least 15% of the time (no Sunday service) . This is the kind of inefficiency that throws money out the window but even more importantly does not provide adequate service to the ridership. Fixed costs are just that, constant. The main variable costs in operating Sundays are the drivers and fuel which if the system was more convenient ridership would increase and profitability would improve. Buses should… Read more »
Darling
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They tried to privatise 10-12 years ago and it would cost more as the city is still in charge A known fact

David Oldham
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DARLING it would NOT be privatization if the city was still in charge and calling the shots. Would you own a business and let someone else call the shots ? Obviously the attempt failed because like so many of the decisions made by Cornwall’s city councils in the past 40 years they made no sense.

If the transit system was privatized it would only cost the ridership and would exist because it was profitably run by business person(s) whose motivation and purpose was to turn a profit. A known fact.

Darling
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Hey David Do You know how much Winnipeg Transit Drivers are making ? I do ? I think someone else mentioned it a while back $17.83 an hour ? Tell us sir what you know ? Waiting ?

Darling
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Mr Oldham

Here are the sources that I know

http://www.routesinternational.com
http://www.cuta.ca

and many more !

Darling
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MR Oldham I know for a fact that the City of Cornwall is still in charge of all the rules for the collection of Garbage , they tell the person doing the work what they want and the company that was put in control is under guide-lines from the City of Cornwall …a known fact I work there Sir

Darling
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Busses are NOT expensed on a 365 day basis FALSE a known fact
in Smaller locations like Cornwall and the other five cities we are compared to.

Darling
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Mr David Oldham

So when will you buy Cornwall Transit and run a profit

Transit is an essiential service , when there is an emergency in any city to evacuate who is called ? The City Transit , a known fact , and there has been a many in The City of Cornwall over the years

Darling
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Re David Oldham

Your facts are not correct

Darling
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Read letters to editor on CSF Sept 17.13, and Sept 27.13
Letter to editor in CSF Sept 27.2013
By William General

Did any one else read his letters ? Can someone please tell us what the heck is he talking about ? Make any sense to anyone ?

Most people laughed it off , people who think they know about transit ??

And he states he was a bus driver and he took his breaks when he was DRIVING his bus ?

SMART glad I was not a passenger

David Oldham
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@DARLING what facts are in error? As far a Winnipeg drivers pay is concerned the 17.83 per hour is the current (Sept 2013) starting pay, job posting #110236 I believe. Regardless this is easily verifiable. What is your point in regards to what drivers in Winnipeg make? What is it that you want to know? Buses are expensed over 365 days. When an asset is purchased interest and depreciation do not take a holiday. This is very basic accounting. The fact that you may not understand the concept does not make it wrong. The City of Cornwall is an incorporated… Read more »
Darling
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Winnipeg Transit Coach Operators make $17.83 as of Sept 3013 as stated by David Oldham ! I believe ? Just shows how much he knows ?

Darling
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Winnipeg Drivers wage as per David Oldham as of Sept 2013 is $17.83, not 3013

Darling
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Winnipeg Starting Pay you say Now David and Jules is $17.83 as a driver who is starting to learn ! That I understand but a full time driver is making what ! I know !I belong to ATU Washington I know !

Darling
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Re: David Oldham
You said you gave me your source of info and I gave you mine, well I am still waiting sir for your source of info !
But I gave you mine !You said I did !

David Oldham
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DARLING are you an idiot with an axe to grind. Look at the date in my entry September 28, 2013 at 7:38 am, it is (Sept 2013) are you okay? It would appear that you have issues.

David Oldham
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DARLING this was not “per David Oldham” it is merely a current job posting for Winnipeg Transit .

Darling
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David please stop all your accuations towards bus drivers , your accountability is on the line as you don’t know what drivers in Winnipeg make ! You assume make it a great day sir !

Darling
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Re : Elzoiey

Thanks appreciate it very much

Keep well

David Oldham
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DARLING, DEREK SHEPPARD or what ever your name is, no accusations of any kind have I ever made . You must be delusional ! You certainly are amusing I will give you that ! As far as accountability DEREK DARLING it was a JOB POSTING FOR WINNIPEG TRANSIT, it has nothing to do with me . Whether drivers were underpaid or overpaid was never part of the equation nor was whether or not grade 10 needed to be a prerequisite . Or and did I say that Cornwall Transit was not an official essential service? The TTC is an essential… Read more »
Hooters
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Cornwall Transit has great bus drivers , polite, very helpful, and very good drivers and I feel very safe with them . With contract talks this week I hope that the City and ATU Local 946 can work out everything in the talks this week set for Oct 4/5 2013, we need the busses here in Cornwall I have read all the postings here and all of them are so very childish, going back and forth, but I support the Drivers of Cornwall ATU Local 946 Wait and see! folks but I am sure both sides will give and take… Read more »
Hooters
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Hey reality check Re: Sept 26.2013 @ 6:37am
Derek Sheppard never compared any transit locations to any other city. Like I said I have read them all and its been all the people who have posted about a possible strike here in Cornwall, that made the comparison , you included. Derek Sheppard has always said that do not compare themselves to any other city other than the ones they are compared to or smaller. But you would not believe some of the things they do have to go through, some just like larger cities but not as often. Thanks

Babycakes
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Being a resident of Cornwall and being as I don’t drive or have a license I rely on the Transit service as my main source of transportation. In my opinion and this is just my opinion, the fact that the changes made in the past couple of months are horrific. The new transfer policy is ridiculous. A lot of Cornwall’s residents are either on ODSP or OW and it is unfair that they have only enough time to transfer to the next bus. Whereas the way it was before they had a full hour to go and run errands and… Read more »
Hooters
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Where did everyone go ? The City and ATU Local 946 talk on Friday October 4 & 5 2013 and the Union will have a vote on Sunday Oct 6.2013 either to accept the offer or to not accept the offer ?

Wait and See
Keep in touch

Hooters
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Hey Babycakes and Reality-check the transfer policy was changed because the city was losing to much cash , you take taxi there you take taxi home ?
Drivers are human, we need breaks, we need to go to wash room, we need to eat ? we also have a life with our families ? Maybe

Hooters
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Busses are still rolling Monday morning great news
Its not over yet but the busses are still rolling for a least the next 2 weeks , all will be fine

Hooters
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Just reading the comments about Cornwall Transit in the Cornwall Standard Freeholder and all the support for the drivers, THANKS, and the many concerns with passengers if Transit was to go on strike. Keep calling your City Council and transit and keep posting comments and letters to editor in papers. The Drivers want a fair deal, no more, no less than any other city employee. I think that every employee of any City/employer of any business , all benefits should be the same across the board, including management. Fair is Fair ? Why should one employee of the city get… Read more »
David Oldham
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HOOTERS the only problem with your logic it that it does not support why everyone working for the city does not receive the same compensation as well. Based on your take this would be fair…you said “why should one employee of the city get more just because of the position?” Sounds like someone else is trying to do your thinking for you and badly letting you down. Do your own thinking and surprise yourself, unions have an agenda, to survive !

Hooters
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Re: David Oldham last posting October 7.2013 @ 7:51Pm Mr Oldham I do my own thinking and I am a tax payer to this city of Cornwall Ontario, Canada, for many years , and I use the Transit system in the City , and I can say this for the City of Cornwall we have a great Transit system , all drivers are great, polite, helpful, and they keep a very good schedule, in all kinds of weather, traffic, detours, etc. I don’t know sir if you do use the service, but maybe one day you will NEED Transit, like… Read more »
Derek Sheppard
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Nov 22.13 I just want to thank Cornwall Free News for being able to post things about Cornwall Transit, I read all the negative postings about Cornwall Transit and the many positive postings about Cornwall Transit and I want to ask all those negative people , “Hey The Busses are still rolling along the streets of Cornwall”. So what do you know about our contract? Every one is happy , the drivers / the city. Maybe its time for the negative people who hate transit take a relief, maybe one day u will need it, don’t say no I heard… Read more »
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