Chris Klimek of LTE on Cost of Low Speed Limits to Drivers – Oct 8, 2013

Chris Klimek of LTE on Cost of Low Speed Limits to Drivers – Oct 8, 2013

LTEA friend of mine, a nurse who also teaches college and has two teenage children has recently received a speeding citation on a clear, straight, multi-lane stretch of highway 401 near Cobourg. She was charged with going 130 km/h in a 100 km/h zone. Her charge was not reduced in court when she pleaded not guilty. Her punishment included roadside humiliation, a $259 fine, 4 demerit points and an upcoming painful insurance rate hike. All for driving at a safe and reasonable speed millions of us drive every day.

Unfortunately, in Ontario, our authorities refuse us a reasonable speed limit. Who cares that over sixty jurisdictions world-wide, including half of the U.S. and most of the EU can legally drive at 120 and 130 km/h. Driving on our 400-series highways simply must be illegal.

My friend’s driving would be praised in such respectable countries as France, Denmark or Germany – all of which have extremely safe highways and recognize 130 km/h as a safe speed outside of metropolitan areas. Her driving would also receive a police officer’s thumbs up in Texas and Utah.

Shame on our province for punishing safe and prudent drivers and inflicting financial pain on their families for no wrongdoing!

Chris Klimek is a founder of – a group demanding increasing of the 400-series highway speed limit to globally-recognized 120-130 km/h.

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11 Comments on "Chris Klimek of LTE on Cost of Low Speed Limits to Drivers – Oct 8, 2013"

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OK, so the limit changes to 120, will enforcement begin at 121 or creep to 15 over like now?
Our population is aging, how would this affect average drivers, as I see some young and old now doing much less and much more?

Before metric the 401 was 70 miles per hour, the highway design has not changed (cars have & deer still jump out), is there supporting evidence from that time on accidents?

Oh, and your friend was doing something wrong, if not a judge would tear up the ticket, and the whole thing would not have happened if driving 110KPH.


Some of those countries listed on the website have milder winters than ours, will there be a winter speed?

The 400 series highways have a design speed of 120 kph. This design speed is based on average driver comfort, not physics, and has a safety factor of 1.5. How do I know this? I was a designer for the MTO pre-Harris days. These rules were also based on criteria from the 70s. With today’s cars and new tire technologies, that factor of safety is probably closer to 2. For me, driving 100 kph on these highways is dangerous, not only the fact that you’re probably going to get run over, but also the fact that it’s like watching paint… Read more »

I think the limit is kept so low so that the police can pull over (harass) anyone driving at 110 or 120, which is usually the normal speed of the traffic. I got pulled over and checked out for doing 105 on the 401 near Brockville many years ago. Pretty sure it was because I had a beard and longish hair back then.

Living in an ideal world with people who respect the rules of the road and others.. No problem. But we live in a world where 20 extra clicks would still have Mr. A–hole filling my rear-view mirror with even less of a reaction stopping time. Also, an increase in the top speed requires an increase of the minimum speed, which would be 80 instead of 60, because it is the differential in speed that increases the risk of accident. You might need to change your tires to a higher rating to avoid a catastrophic blowout; and do you have the… Read more »

Ray asked “Also, why did the government set the speed limiter on tractor trailers to 105 if the limit is 100?”

As our long in the tooth MPP Chiarelli states, we saw a 24% reduction in fatalities involving trucks, was that reason for implimentation, probably not.

It’s about time we get the government to finally acknowledge that the manner these limits are being enforced amounts to legalized extortion. If speed was really the issue, they could do a better job of making people stay consistently slowed down by employing technological solutions rather than doing these fundraising sprees that cause people to slam on their brakes when they realize they’re going 120 approaching a cruiser. It would be more cost-effective than the salaries paid to constables to sit in a car and hold a device when they have no expectation of zipping into traffic on a 400-series… Read more »
David Oldham

Speeding and putting others at risk isn’t an intelligent way to lobby for higher speed limits.

Ive driven transport trucks and commuted to Montreal from Cornwall for 25 years. Ive seen everything, 10 times over. The MOST dangerous situation ive witnessed is a slow driver doing 60 to 80kph. This was more common in Quebec in the fast lane. (even more dangerous) Quebec drivers are very fast, and seemingly have the get in front of you at all costs. Whereas in Toronto its opposite, drivers are slower, (sometimes in total fear!) and all stick to the fast lane apparently unable to judge the Right side of their vehicle. Cars are safer today, and the limits… Read more »
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I think a speed limit of 110 km would be very wise on the 401 which when given the fact most police officers don’t stop anyone doing 120 and lower that would raise the average speed limit to 130 where the nurse was unfortunately she was 10 kph above the limit that police seem to ticket at thats just a fact too bad she did not know this . I started driving the 401 when the speed limit was 70 mph the average speed at the time on the 401 was 90 mph I often drove faster sometime approaching 100… Read more »