Chuck Charlebois Not Invited to “THE” meeting in Ottawa Over Illegal Chem Tanks on Cornwall Ontario Waterfront

Chuck Charlebois Not Invited to “THE” meeting in Ottawa Over Illegal Chem Tanks on Cornwall Ontario Waterfront

 

Chuck NO TANKSCornwall Ontario – If things couldn’t get weirder than the bad theatre that has been the dumping of Chemical tanks onto the waterfront in Cornwall Ontario we now have learned that after all the celebration of Chuck Charlebois being invited to participate in the meeting in Ottawa today about the tanks that it wasn’t to participate in “THAT” meeting, but in what appears to be another meeting missing some of the key players.

Frankly there was no reason for any such meeting.     The tax payers and citizens of Cornwall have sent a very LOUD MESSAGE.

NO TANKS

This is after all a Harper riding even if MP Lauzon claims that he knew nothing of the tanks being installed on the waterfront.   That means that the majority voted for Mr. Lauzon and that same majority have said:

NO TANKS!

Guessing that was not quite clear meetings were arranged instead of simply sending some emails and sadly informing Trillium Distribution Cornwall Inc. that there’d been a change of plans and directions; great apologies and the cutting of a cheque by the Feds.

Unless the City knew in advance?   Then that changes the whole mess and that could be why there are these pointless meetings.

The City of Cornwall isn’t even trying to hide that there are two meetings although I have a hunch if the public was notified there’d be less headlines last week about Chuck attending the non meeting in the morning instead of the real meeting with the Trillium folks in the afternoon.

Chuck made his presentation at a meeting which included Mayor Kilger, CAO Norm Levac, Stephen Alexander, Chief Brian David from the MCA along with two other reps from the MCA; Guy Lauzon and his heir apparent Eric Duncan.

The results were Chuck repeating his speech from last night with some solemn nods, thanks, hand shaking, and Chuck sent back home to Cornwall so the “adults” could now have their real meeting.

City officials participate in meetings in Ottawa regarding Harbour tanks
City officials met today in Ottawa with Stormont-Dundas-South Glengarry MP Guy Lauzon, Transport Canada officials, representatives of the Mohawk Council of Akwesasne and Mr. Chuck Charlebois. The discussions at the meeting were productive.

The parties are all looking for a satisfactory solution and agreed to meet again later this week.

In the afternoon, City officials attended a second meeting with MP Lauzon, Transport Canada officials and representatives from Trillium Distribution Inc. A candid discussion was held towards finding a solution. These parties agreed to meet again within the next two weeks.

Is this transparency?   Are these results?  What is there really needed to be discussed other than who at City Hall knew and what will be done about it?

You know I couldn’t make up stuff like this in fiction that would be swallowed; yet the truth has become “Stranger than fiction”.

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jules
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Chuck Charlebois has things to do with those old Cotton Mill condos and you would think that the feds would have contacted him as well as Bare Ass and company about what was going on with that stretch of land nearby. This makes no sense at all and I sure do know that Harpoon Harpo is a dictator but you would think that Bare Ass would have had papers sent to him about the plans and way ahead of time. Like I said before that the government never does things on the spur of the moment and that things are… Read more »
john rothwell
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do you really want to get their attention? with hold your taxes, shut them down, there must be something in the law books we can legally do to put a stop to the unneeded meetings, wasteing taxpayers money on a farce meeting, when we have had our say… no tanks, means NO TANKS, i have had many an opportunity to bring this subject up at work, and i work with the public, and it bereaves me to say there are a few people who still don’t know about the situation going on here in our city, few as they may… Read more »
jules
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Mr. Rothwell I agree with Jamie all the way and it takes the people of Cornwall to come together to oust that Bare Ass out of office once and for good before he does anymore destruction. I have said that so many times that Jamie can go back in his achive and he will find so much but he would need a staff at least 10 times its size for all the multitude of manuscripts that I wrote. LOL LOL. Seriously it is so very true that if people do not come together and throw that bum out he will… Read more »
Dave
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Blather, blather. That’s all it is. Snowed to the 9’s. All they are talking about is how they can save face and still have the tanks in place….. Time for MCA AND Cornwall to gang up with an ‘Idol No More’ as it seems to be the only thing to get the ‘public’ message followed up on. Next these tanks will have caustic/toxic runoffs. These people need to be told in the strongest way possible. Call the CBC, Sun News, CNN….tape it and request social media support……No thanks to damn tanks. For snubbing Mr.Chuck Charlebois the way they did in… Read more »
David Oldham
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Yesterday morning, directly in front of Councilor Bernadette Clements home, a large loader worked furiously loading snow into three waiting city trucks taking the small pile of snow down to grass level. Fast and furious was the mission as the temperatures for the second or third day in a row were well above freezing and the snow was melting at a feverish pace. Bureaucracy and tax dollars at work. Work and money for nothing. This exercise regarding the chemical tanks is likely a show which ultimately will serve no purpose like the snow removal on Leap Court yesterday other than… Read more »
David Oldham
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I hope that not one among them has the audacity to run again. If any of them do and there is a public forum I for one will be there to ask questions, difficult, telling and perhaps embarrassing questions which will require a simply yes or no answer only. That is if I can make it to the microphone before security wrestles me to the ground and shows me the door on the the grounds that my socks or other apparel are offensive.

whap61
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{MODERATED} Just a reminder that in order to post using a pseudonym on CFN you have to email us and register with your full name, mailing address, phone number and name you wish to use just as you would a Letter to the Editor. Email info@cornwallfreenews.com Cheers and thanks On Canada AM this morning, they were discussing the farmer that will loose his land in Trenton for Military purpose. A Real Estate Lawyer mentioned that the gov’t can take over land as long as it’s for the “GREATER GOOD OF THE PEOPLE”. I want to know, how are these CHEMICAL… Read more »
David Oldham
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The land in question belongs to the taxpayer via the federal government and has sat dormant for some time. You tell me that the leadership of this community did not have the ability to have forwarded a proposal for purchase of these lands to protect the future development of our waterfront ? Do you think if such a proposal had been presented in council that it might have passed ? Where was the vision, were was the planning department. This would have been one of the rare and purposeful type of expenses that I would have been comfortable seeing the… Read more »
hailey Brown
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Sorry for my poor English in the first post….I couldn’t even get my name right. Let me try again. Can somebody please explain the term “Illegal Tanks” and how was that term derived? David I think Cornwall; I know Cornwall has no Planning Department. No functional Planning Department that is. If you doubt my statement try asking them what the future plan is for the city in excess of 1 year. I could save you the trouble, they have none and the people involved do not think it is possible. That is almost a quote. They have hired consultants one… Read more »
jules
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Hayley you are a very intelligent woman and I could tell that from your blogs and you have a lot of experience dealing with jobs being placed in areas especially aeas where it is the most needed like Cornwall. A short time ago that waterfront was to have condos built where the parking lot is for the Civic Centre as well as the Ball Field and other places. Most of us stood up and said no condos because that area was to be reserved as park area for the people. Chuck Charlebois built those loft condos in the old Cotton… Read more »
hailey Brown
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Jules The tanks could be a benefit in a few ways. As I mentioned previously we could do like so many other communities have done and co-exist with industry making the area seem progressive rather than …..and once the tanks are built they will appear no uglier than the shed that stands along the dock We could benefit from the tanks simply by charging an environmental fee for the surrounding area. If they wish to use the area there is a fund put in place such that should an environmental spill occur the funding is already in place to have… Read more »
john rothwell
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another question for hailey,,,, when the liner and outer houseing desintegrates from storage of the caustic fluids it will hold (and it will) and the contents end up leeching into the ground and out into the st lawrence,,,, who do you think will be held responsible for the cleanup????? not the feds!!! that is to say if they could clean it up… it will not only poison one of the few freshwater resources left in the world, but poison everything that lives near, on, or in the water…. think about the consequences of these actions, and how it will effect… Read more »
jules
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Hayley someone is benefiting with these tanks besides the federal and provincial government and in my opinion it is a family or more who has been paid off to have those tanks put back on that property. Like Jamie said the taxpayers paid to clean up that land and didn’t want to see that there anymore. I am all for progress and I want to see some condos go up but not the way they had planned them. Low rise condos is the way to go like what Mr. John Markell constructed on Water Street which is impeccably built in… Read more »
David Oldham
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@Hailey Brown I agree with your comment that Cornwall has a dysfunctional planning department, at best. The evidence of that fact is all around us and in the news far to often, the chemical tanks are an example of how proper planning could have made a difference to the outcome. Not that they had no place in Cornwall but more that there were alternatives that could have offered a more symbiotic relationship with the community. As far as consultants are concerned, this city does not have a great record of accepting recommendations from the individuals/groups hired for that purpose (the… Read more »
hailey Brown
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I would like to post answers to all of you. I hope doing three different posts is ok admin. It is easier to address each person commenting on my posts Beginning start with Admin first, rank has privileges ( just a bit of humor) Can you provide any evidence that the reclamation was on the tax payers tab? If you already have shown this in previous stories I apologize for my questions and if you could please let me know when you provided the documentation and I will check it out and rescind this comment Why do we not ask… Read more »
hailey Brown
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John Rothwell What is the vessel material and liner? Do you know if the vessels are double walled? Is there leak detection in the soil and or between the walls of the vessel?? Are they pressure vessels and if so what is the rating? These are just three of the standards to be implemented and not something standards organizations let slip. Calcium Chloride, I would presume for this application it is Anhydrous, has a pH between 4.5 and 8. This is the range of things like milk and stream water. Calcium Chloride can be stored in Nickel Aluminum, 304/316 Stainless… Read more »
hailey Brown
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Jules
Somebody always has to benefit if there is no benefits there is no gain, but in this case we should let them have the land and earn much needed revenue for the city. That way everyone can gain. We just need someone to ensure it is done right

Even Chuck and the renaissance team can use the additional revenue the city could earn from tis venture.

hailey Brown
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David can you let me know where I can get some more information the the Green Energy Act and our exemption from it.

Thank you in advance

jules
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Hayley your are a very well educated and savvy lady and yes Cornwall can benefit as long as it is done right and not affect the river in any way. If you know how the government is (any government anywhere) they are the ones who don’t hold themselves responsible for anything and just wipe their hands on it all and they don’t care for the people. It would be a wonderful thing for employment for people that is terribly lacking. The only thing is Hayley that the tanks are not in the right place at all which is situated near… Read more »
hailey Brown
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Thank you for your words Jules!
My profession has provided me with insight to many different industries and the associated codes and safe practices surrounding them.

Where do you think the tanks should be stored?
Perhaps we can put them in the industrial park. However as I said earlier we are now erecting schools in our industrial park therefore maybe it is not a good idea either.

Or maybe we can simply eliminate the use of sodium chloride on roads in the winter.

You have valid points Jules but no alternatives.

jules
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My heavens what are schools doing in industrial parks? I was contemplating on putting those tanks on places like Education Road and such areas but not schools nor regular businesses. Hayley I could see that you are an engineer or some sort of an equivalent of that and you know all too well what this is about and that is if we are being told the truth. I know that those tanks have to be a certain thickness to be able to hold a certain kind of chemical. Wait till you read this which I just fell on but didn’t… Read more »
David Oldham
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@Hailey Brown although there is an exemption for the Cornwall area under the Green Energy Act the exemption I meant to refer to arose out of the passing of Bill 35 in 1998. The Energy Competition Act legislation resulted in several new acts, most importantly the Electricity Act (1998) and the Ontario Energy Board Act (1998). 160/99 and 161/99 each respectfully contain exemptions because of an existing contract with Quebec Hydro. If you go to Fortis Ontario.com you will note that the contract has a completion date of Dec. 2019. This long term contract exists as an exemption under both… Read more »
hailey Brown
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Thank you David! I assumed you were referring to the Quebec Hydro deal but I wanted to be sure. You are very right, once that ends if nothing is done more people will be unemployed in Cornwall and the rates will increase, though I doubt as much as you may assume. Ontario and Quebec have always had under the table business dealings and I would hazard a guess now that there will be a resolution allowing Quebec to still sell power to Ontario but at a premium. Quebec does not want to lose revenue anymore then Ontario Hydro. If we… Read more »
Michael Clifton
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@Hailey Brown
I think your comments about accepting the placement of these tanks in the proposed spot as “progressive” on the part of the community is hogwash. It’s a travesty and a betrayal of the best intentions of the more visionary people in Cornwall.
Please promise you ‘ll never run for mayor of this already beleaguered city.
Thank God not everything in this world is about making money.

jules
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The people of Cornwall have worked hard to clean up the mess that Domtar and other industries left behind and it would be a terrible tragedy to have a company come along and destroy the river that was pretty well cleaned up. People have to get rid of that “Big Ben” the destroyer of the water system which is full of chemicals and who knows what other areas need to be cleaned up. That stupid arena that they built on former Domtar property called The Benson Centre which should have been named after Bare Ass with his lame brained ideas… Read more »
jules
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One more thing here is that Chuck Charlebois should have been invited on the mettings in Ottawa, etc. because he was the one who was in charge of renovation of those condos and putting those tanks not far from the condos could pose a health risk to those who purchased and rented. When something is hidden then you know that there is something not kosher. So much corruption and it isn’t just one person doing the corruption but the crap runs from the top down. I have to use the word crap so as Jamie can print it.
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