Cornwall Ontario 1 – Bob Kilger 0 – City Chooses Change As Mayor & Cronies Dumped – OCT 28, 2014

Cornwall Ontario 1 – Bob Kilger 0 – City Chooses Change As Mayor & Cronies Dumped – OCT 28, 2014

kilger aug 11 2014 angle CORNWALL Ontario – Voters wanted change and they made their voices heard Monday night as Mayor Bob Kilger went down in flames.  Going along with him were long term councilors Syd Gardiner, Denis Carr, the despised Glen Grant and Gerry Samson.

As of 9:25 PM one poll still wasn’t reporting but the numbers were clear with Leslie O’Shaugnessy garnering 6,277 votes to Bob Kilger’s 5,396.

CFN Editor Jamie Gilcig drew 687 votes.

But it was on council that most of the changes will be visible with first timers Carilyne Hebert, Justin Towndale, Claude McIntosh, and Brock Frost along with returning Mark A MacDonald joining now second term candidates David Murphy & Maurice Dupelle.

Bernadette Clement, Andre Rivette, and Elaine MacDonald.

The nail biter was Rivette who kept a slim lead over Guy St. Jean all evening.

Denis Carr, Glen Grant, & Syd Gardiner finished 11, 12, and 13th.

It marks the end to one of the dirtiest campaigns this journalist has ever seen which included gross media bias by the Seaway News & Cogeco.

In South Stormont voters were upset with ultra long delays in results which many are already questioning as telephone and computer voting were used.

Unofficial results include Jim Bancroft defeating incumbent Bryan McGillis.  Deputy Mayor Tammy Hart being re-elected as well as councillor Rick Waldroff.   Newcomers Donna Primeau & Dave “Grumpy” Smith all will most likely have to await a recount.

Glitches also impacted other area vote counts as many clearly wish for paper ballots.

CFN will have extensive coverage Tuesday!

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Hugger1
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Thanks Admin. I think I understand it now. But don’t ask me to explain it.

BTW, the http://www.akwesasne.ca/sites/default/files/mcaannualreport/mca-annual_report2010-12.pdf link kept crashing my internet browser.

Ugly? Not a word unfamiliar to Cornwall residents.

Simon
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Finucan and friends (eg. turfed politicians) have more than a pa$$ing interest in our section of the St. Lawrence, what with Verdant Energy and the Cornwall Ontario River Energy (CORE) project to generate power with underwater turbines.

It’s not just the St. Lawrence that smells fishy… watch out for post-election lining of pockets, feathering of nests, and sweet under the table deals.

Harry Valentine
Guest

Hi Simon,

The federal and Quebec governments put money into a Quebec company to develop an underwater turbine . . . . and 2-units have been churning away under the St Lawrence River just south-west of Montreal. The only place where those turbines will be installed commercially would be on some rivers in Northern Quebec near first nations reservations . . . those reservations presently use diesel generators to produce electric power.

Given the politics of Canada, the product from the Quebec company will definitely be considered for Northern installations

Harry Valentine
Guest
Hi again Simon, All the webpages on the project you mention, are several years old . . . dating back between 2007 and 2011. During that time, both New York Power Authority and Ontario Hydro have upgraded their respective side of the international dam. They have raised power output from 1600MW (megawatts) to almost 2000MW . . . that’s an extra 400MW and many, many times the projected output of the river project mentioned in the old webpages. A few years ago, New York Power Authority vetoed a proposal for a mass installation of river turbines near Ogdensburg . .… Read more »
Harry Valentine
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Simon et al, Cornwall receives electric power from Quebec while Ottawa receives most of their electric power from ONTARIO . . . even though Quebec is right across the river. Queen’s Park restricts the amount of electric power that Ottawa Hydro can import from Hydro Quebec . . . . the cheapest electric power in North America. Without that restriction, electric power prices in Ottawa could drop. As a result, there would be no need for heavily subsidized solar farms and wind farms across Eastern Ontario. With regard to river turbines, some 8-companies were given government funding to develop such… Read more »
Hugger1
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Do you think the Ontario government would allow Ottawa to import electricity from Quebec and lower prices? Not a chance, as long as they have Hydro One, etc. sitting there heavily in debt.

Harry Valentine
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Jamie, Simon raised a good point about the political friends and the government funded energy project. Cornwall Electric’s contract with Hydro Quebec will expire within the next 24-months. Should they renew with Hydro Quebec, then Cornwall will be assured of competitive electric power prices. HOWEVER, political friends who represent energy industry associations have been quietly lobbying Queen’s Park . . . . opposing initiatives to import electric power from Quebec. These associations represent sectors of the energy industry that will generate electric power at much higher prices than Hydro Quebec . . . their technology requires subsidy. While Southern Ontario… Read more »
jules
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Our electricity here in Ottawa is a lot higher than that of Cornwall’s and yes it is Ottawa Hydro who is in charge of this and I wanted to point something out is that at times when you need the electricity to work like at supper time, etc. it is mighty weak like a candle when you put on your stove. At first we thought that it was just the apartment buildings that they were doing this to until we spoke to our friend Robert and some others who own single homes and it is the same thing. There is… Read more »
jules
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I just hope that Leslie fares out a great deal better than Bare Ass and I keep telling myself how worse can it ever be after experiencing all this corruption of Bare Ass and company. When money changes hands there are no friends only business partners. Well we have to have some kind of hope and if things go sour then what. People would have really lost it if there are no improvements. I am literally disappointed in three who were re-elected and one newbie. I am like a push and shove both into one and we will see the… Read more »
Hugger1
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Jules…..at peak demand times if demand is greater than supply electricity is rationed out.

Harry Valentine
Guest

With regard to electric power in Cornwall, there is the possibility that people with political connections to Queen’s Park may attempt to ran Hydro One on to Cornwall, just as Cornwall Electric’s agreement with Hydro Quebec comes due for renewal. There is much anti-Hydro Quebec sentiment going on in Ontario these days, especially amongst people who have political connections to Queen’s Park and who are connected to the power industry.

David Oldham
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The current contract between Fortis and Hydro Quebec expires Dec 31st 2019. This contract was given an exemption until its completion date under the Green Energy Act. Under the current legislation Fortis will not be permitted to enter into any further agreements with Quebec Hydro. Energy must from that date forward be purchased from an Ontario supplier.

David Oldham
Guest
Under federal legislation Quebec Hydro cannot charge more internally (Canada) than it does on the international market (USA) This means currently that if Quebec Hydro was to enter into agreements with Ontario jurisdictions the cost would be in the 7-8 cent per kwh range on a long term contract basis. While this would benefit all Ontario customers it does not conform with the current and past Liberal government ideology. The electorate rewarded the Liberals with a majority in the most recent election sending the message that the majority are in favour of higher taxation, higher energy costs, and greater expenditure… Read more »
Hugger1
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Oh joy, David Oldham, you’re just full of good news today aren’t you? Just what we want to hear that come 2020 our hydro bills are going to skyrocket.

Hugger1
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I didn’t ask for Wynne and her government. But I have to accept the will of the uninformed.

Furtz
Member

Hugger, it was actually the Cons who made sure that Wynne would win. They couldn’t have chosen a more repulsive and stupid leader.

David Oldham
Guest

Keeping ones head buried in the sand creates the illusion of safety.

Hugger1
Guest

Sort of agree with Furtz. But to me it was uninformed voters who gave the Cons the thought that they could win with Hudak.

David Oldham….I NEVER bury my head in the sand. It makes it hard to breath.

Furtz
Member

I think the voters sent a strong message to the Cons about Hudak two elections ago. They didn’t listen. Both those elections should have been cakewalks for the Cons.

Burying one’s head in the sand keeps the woodsmoke out of the lungs.

jules
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Mr. Oldham is absolutely right folks and I have been reading plenty about this for some time now. We are all going to face high taxes on everything and yes Ontario is broke literally. There will be a terrible strain on heating, lighting your home, etc. I spoke yesterday about we here in Ottawa not getting the full power in homes and apartments and Hugger answered me that it was being split between people because of demand and it is a big strain on the system and it is going to get a great deal worse than what it is… Read more »
Hugger1
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Here’s hoping Leslie O’Shaughnessy and Brock Frost have enough sense to declare their conflicts of interest when it comes to their real estate dealings. After watching Elaine MacDonald’s non-action on conflicts of interest in the last council I’m hoping for proper action by Leslie O’Shaughnessy and Brock Frost. But Elaine MacDonald did declare her conflict of interest in the Agape Centre the last time they were up for discussion. But then she continued to discuss AND vote on the motion. She just doesn’t get it or doesn’t understand what conflict of interest is. Carilyne Hebert is another I’m concerned about.… Read more »
Harry Valentine
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TO David Oldham, Thanks for clarifying the situation with regard to Cornwall receiving electric power from Hydro Quebec . . . so we get Quebec power until the end of 2019. While Ontario’s green energy supplies 4% of Ontario electric power, it accounts for about 20% of the power bill, see article: http://www.energycentral.com/functional/news/news_detail.cfm?did=34157031& David, you revelation confirms my suspicion . . . . the behaviour of the political friends of Queen’s Park, who live in this area, were literally dropping hints of an impending hijacking of electric power in Cornwall. As a result, Cornwall’s economic future is literally screwed unless… Read more »
Harry Valentine
Guest
OK people . . . . can we take a stand to fight for access to continued cheaper electric power after 2019. Yes, we’ll be going up against some politically well-connected friends of both Queen’s Park and Cornwall’s soon-to-be former mayor. These political friends have their own ambitions and interests . . . and Cornwall’s continued access to hydroelectric power from Quebec is neither an ambition nor an interest of theirs. So perhaps during the term of Cornwall’s next mayor, some of us may be able to stir up the electric power situation and protect our right to free of… Read more »
jules
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Mr. Valentine and folks you will be paying considerably higher electricity if Cornwall goes under Ontario Hydro. I won’t forget out hydro bills here in Ottawa when we rented a duplex and then a garden home. My husband and I would yell about the bills back then and we were really careful like misers and didn’t have the things that we have today and were working all day and never home until the evening and WOW it hit us between the eyes to see what we had to pay out. That was back in the early 80’s when we went… Read more »
Harry Valentine
Guest
An UNELECTED bureaucrat likely made the decision to end Cornwall getting electric power from Hydro Quebec at the end of 2019 . . . . and the elected MPP, elected mayor and elected council are required to put up and shut up and submit to the high-handed behaviour of an unelected government employee or political appointee. This is nothing more than an act of abuse of governmental power being enacted by officials at Queen’s Park against the citizens of Cornwall, who are going to be required to cover the cost of excessive spending by earlier Ontario governments. The decision to… Read more »
jules
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Mr. Valentine there will be more shocks yet to come and wait for the humoungous rise in water that everyone will be paying. Up goes my rent again. That will come do in March since the owner screwed up as usual and put the increases for the following year. Food is a nightmare in the stores. Some time ago I even suggested to people to grow their own food if they have yards. Food is going to be out of this world and already people are starving in many areas of the world. Many shocks are yet to come and… Read more »
Hugger1
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Harry Valentine said: What the hell kind of government is Premier Wynne running in Ontario ??

I hope that was a rhetorical question.

2020 is 5+ years away. There is still time to right the ship. We can get this deal where Cornwall Electric can’t buy electricity from outside the province fixed.

David Oldham
Guest
Good luck Hugger1. I have been trying to get a city councilor to respond on this very issue for three years. Either they simply do not understand the ramifications or they don’t care. The economy of Cornwall is fragile at best and offers far to many service, call centre or warehouse type jobs in relation to careers which offer a wage capable of supporting a family. With a substantial welfare population and a large aging demographic Cornwall’s ability to withstand a changeover from an affordable Quebec power source to an outrageously costly Ontario supplier is rather limited. I would propose… Read more »
David Oldham
Guest

Harry I was opposed to the sale of the city owned electrical utility, Cornwall Electric. Council of the day saw dollar signs and were blind to the future consequences of their short sighted vision.

Hugger1
Guest

Calling it blind, I think, is being polite. Ottawa still owns their hydro utility and get massive profits from it every year.

Harry Valentine
Guest
David Oldham, A few members of Cornwall City Council had political loyalties to Queen’s Park . . . so there was no way that they would challenge the Green Energy Act. The bureaucrat(s) who concocted the Green Energy Act would likely have been McGuinty appointees . . . and closely connected with the office of the former premier. So there was little chance for Cornwall to have challenged aspects of the Green Energy Act that would end the flow of electric power from Quebec. At the time that act was implemented, Charest was the premier of Quebec. Dalton McGuinty out… Read more »
David Oldham
Guest
Harry I agree with your comment concerning political loyalties around the horseshoe at city hall. I suspect that the next four years will not only be challenging for the government but troublesome for the taxpayer as well. With a debt of over 288 billion dollars costs to service this debt are placing a strangle hold on budgets. Short of the government reigning in spending on a rather large scale taxation(fees) will have to climb. The reality is that regardless which direction the government chooses the average person is going to be worse off in four years time. The old concept… Read more »
Eric
Guest

Hugger 1 said Ottawa still owns their hydro utility and get massive profits from it every year.

Another view on that is the users are over paying to what amounts to, an extra tax revenue source to misspend by politicians to get photo ops.

Hugger1
Guest

Eric…not really. The rates are set by the OEB, not Hydro Ottawa.

Harry Valentine
Guest

David et al,

Let us recall that the citizens of Oakville/Mississauga rebelled against the natural gas plants that McGuinty and Co. were going to ram into their neighbourhoods. Their protest worked . . . and the Ontario Government cancelled the gas plants at a cost of several $-million.

So there is hope for Cornwall to take a stand to protect getting low cost electric power from Quebec. We are part of a united Canada that includes Quebec . . . . NOT part of the sovereign independent dictatorship of Ontario.

Harry Valentine
Guest
RE: Cornwall’s former CAO David et al, Did Cornwall’s former CAO who was implicated in the whistle-blower case, know about December 31, 2019 when Cornwall was going to lose access to hydroelectric power from Quebec? If he did’nt know, why was he the CAO. If he did know, did he advise Cornwall City Council? If not, then why not ?? If they knew about it, why the silence ?? Are they silent due to political loyalties to some special friends ?? Cornwall city administration needs to make a public statement about their knowledge over prospects of Cornwall’s future loss to… Read more »
Eric
Guest

I really never left Admin, I still enjoy coming here. I have just been too sad to respond since Stellabystarlight stopped posting. LOL

Hugger 1, the OEB can set rates, but 10’s of millions of dollars sent from Hydro Ottawa to City Hall annually, is over charging at one government type entity and giving to another.

jules
Guest
Don’t expect much in the coming years in Cornwall because Ontario is in an enormous debt mostly do to the stupidity of McGuinty and we Ontarions have to pay for their dirty dealings. Electricity will become mighty high not to mention the water bills will rise not only in Ontario but all over Canada. Taxes will rise and people will have less in their pockets. There is a big drought just now in California so get ready to dish out more money for food. This coming spring get your ground ready in your back yards and make a garden for… Read more »
jules
Guest

I miss StellabyStarlight and was going to ask you Jamie where he/she is. This person had good postings.

jules
Guest

All that Stella had to do was register his/her pseudonym just like I did and others. Your the only paper that I like and would not go to another. You have the best paper for Cornwall and so many do not appreciate your hard work and are also “envious” of you as well.

Hugger1
Guest

While I hope something will be done to maintain Cornwall’s hydro rates past 2019 I also realize Cornwall (46,000) is small potatoes compared to Oakville (183,000) and Mississauga (713,000). Here’s hoping our local and provincial representatives make this a priority before it’s too late.

Eric, I agree. Overcharging on hydro rates to give the city of Ottawa a big dividend cheque makes no sense. Robbing from Peter to pay Paul makes no sense.

Simon
Guest

Thank you Harry for injecting some critical thinking into the debate.

Hugger1
Guest

Very interesting questions Harry Valentine. I’d say that the former CAO knew about the 2019 cut-off date. If some average citizens know about the cut-off date then certainly the former and current CAO knows about it. And certainly city council knows. Here’s hoping everyone gets off their behinds and this problem becomes a priority to solve.

jules
Guest

Former US president Delano Roosevelt said back in the 30’s era that nothing just happens in politics and that you can be well sure it was well planned in advance. How mighty true that is. I believe that Fitzy knew all about the 2019 deadline where the Quebec Hydro will end for Cornwall. Politics at all levels is all planned ahead and no surprises for the politicians only for the general public.

Harry Valentine
Guest
Of interest, Ottawa Hydro owns several small hydro-electric power stations on the Ottawa River and one at Rideau Falls. The little power dams date back to 1890, were mothballed for several years until being recently re-activate to generate about 100-megawatts of power (about 10% of the output of the Canadian side of Moses Saunders power dam). If some of Cornwall’s political elite were hoping to have Finucan’s turbines generate electric power for Cornwall, they may be getting far less than they may expect. About 5-years ago, Transport Canada banned kinetic turbines from being installed under commercial navigation channels . .… Read more »