Harper Wins G&M Leader Debate by Default – Mulcair for Best Tie! by Jamie Gilcig

Harper Wins G&M Leader Debate by Default – Mulcair for Best Tie!  by Jamie Gilcig

I have to admit I wanted to hear the three leaders of the parties with an actual chance to lead our government debate.   Elizabeth May would probably have kicked butt, but it’s important for voters to get as good a chance as they can to see the three contenders in action, especially with the debate contortions and drama of this election.

G& M debateThomas Mulcair gets bonus points for wearing a purple tie.  As my talented artist friends tell me you get purple by mixing red and blue!

Mr. Harper stuck to his strategy.  He didn’t get knocked off his pole and he let Mr. Trudeau and Mulcair batter each other which I’m sure is hoping to divide the opposition so that he can run up the middle with a win.

The only problem is that on the night it was Mr. Trudeau that showed a real option.   Mr. Mulcair played up to soft Red Tory voters and was quite effective doing so.   Mr. Harper stuck to staunching that flow and keeping his head down.

Mr. Trudeau needed a win with this debate.  He scored some strong points, but the question will be whether there were enough points to get him out of a third place finish.

In the sense that he may have scored more points than the other leaders he did not accomplish what he really needed.

Globe & Mail Debate in full below.

Did you watch the debate?  What do you think dear CFN voters?

 

 

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Furtz
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Didn’t watch it but have read lots about it. From what I gather, most pundits agree with you Jamie. I’m still convinced that the Harper Cons are circling the drain. Even in my ultra Conservative riding, Leeds-Grenville, lots of people, including old Cons, want to heave Steve.

Furtz
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I think a lot of Con supporters will stay home, but in my riding, some will switch to Liberal. We have a very strong Lib candidate this time, and the Con gang should be a bit nervous.

jules
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Jamie when Harpoon Harpo first showed his face years ago (the first time that we all saw him) I personally voted NDP for Jack Layton. Jack didn’t survive to see the outcome unfortunately. Harpoon Harpo is a very strong person and he happens to be right on after all the thought that I gave it. I have seen so much and believe me the man is right. I can call him and others all the names in the book but Harpo is right. If we elect Justine God Help Us All because he knows absolutely nothing at all and would… Read more »
Devon
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Harper again. The other 2 are ass kissers and stargazers. Wish we had a Trump!

Hugger1
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I guess the Harper lovers don’t see what he has done to this once wonderful country for the last ten years. As for Justin’s age he’ll be 44 this December. Harper was only 46 when he became PM.

David Oldham
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People will need to choose between novice leadership or experience. Proven fiscal capabilities which have brought Canada through a tough global economic crisis (in better shape than most countries) or a party with no track record or a party that has a track record of tax and spend. Consider the facts of how the NDP failed provincially in Ontario and British Columbia and what a decade of Liberal policy and corruption has done to the now have not province of Ontario. The phrase lesser of evils almost always applies to our political choices. No party can possibly be everything to… Read more »
Furtz
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The Harper Cons have a solid and consistent record when it comes to election cheating and fraud. Consistency is what we need.

jules
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{MODERATED} Enough with the name calling Jules.

jules
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That is very true Jamie. The party whether it be the Cons, NDP, Libs or any other has pollicies that they have to follow (each one has their own) and are not alone in the decision making. Harpo is very intelligent and the second one like I said is Thomas the Cat but Justine is “dumb and dumber”. They don’t get any dumber than Justine – they just don’t.

Furtz
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I listened to Wayne Gretzky singing the praises of Harper a few days ago. He sounded like he has had his bell rung a few too many times. Has he always sounded like that?

jules
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Jamie i love those names – they suit them all so vlery well. LOL LOL. Someone mentioned about Donald Trump “the trump card” but the man is all mouth. I love to hear him say “you’re fired” and wonder if he would say that in the political field as well. We have enough of Harpo and the rest of the gang that we have to tend to and I do hope that Harpo gets in again since he is the best there is. I have been following plenty of things and things that others may not follow and I give… Read more »
Devon
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To all the unknown foot soldiers.. watch Gavin McInnis Online Anonymity Is For Wimps.

David Oldham
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Admin it does hold weight. The definitive word that you yourself used was “was” in referring to the fact that at a previous point in time Stephen Harper had been a novice. The reality at this current point in time is that Stephen Harper is not a novice and that he is being challenged by two novices ( or would be leaders ). There are those that seem fixated on my possible political leanings when my focus is a much broader perspective with a strong desire for fairness and a low tolerance for innuendo, misleading half truths and sometimes complete… Read more »
Hugger1
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So, I guess it was okay for Harper to be a novice 10 years ago as PM, but it’s not okay for trudeau or Muclair to be novices this time around.

David Oldham
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Hugger1 no need to be unnecessarily thick on this point. It is not about being “okay”. We are not talking about a decade ago we are discussing today’s reality. The simple fact is that three potential leaders are vying for one position as Prime Minister of Canada, one currently has direct experience and the other two do not. This is a simple fact that makes no comment as to their individual politics but rather only on their respective realities. If you feel a novice at this point in time is preferable to experience than take a leap of faith and… Read more »
Hugger1
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If you insist on getting personal on posts I am done with this one.

David Oldham
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Hugger1 …there was nothing personal only a fair observation. You either failed to comprehend a simply stated reality or blatantly chose to reply to a view not tendered. If you are not willing to support your positions and debate that is your choice. I can’t help wonder why you bother to comment in the first place knowing that your remarks likely would prompt a response from someone. Seems rather pointless unless you just like to hear your own opinions. Best to quit the race when you know that you can’t run the distance.

Furtz
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Hugger, don’t take it personally that if you are not a Harper devotee, you are misguided and wrong. It’s not your fault. It’s just that you don’t know the facts. End of sarcasm.
It will be interesting to see if the Harper crew will or will not be caught cheating in this election. If they aren’t, it will be a first for the party.

Hugger1
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I may have misread or misinterpreted what you wrote David Oldham. I am always willing to support and debate my position(s). But what I don’t like is being nitpicked on those positions or things I comment on. I find some commentators here, sometimes, like to nitpick on a small part of what I say or keep hitting on the same point.. And when it keeps up I tend to get very defensive. Forgive me I’m old.

PJ Robertson
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Hugger, no substance in windbags, only all-knowing wind.

Hugger1
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PJ Robertson….ain’t that the truth!!

jules
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What a lot of people miss here is that Harpoon Harpo has the personality to lead and is not throwing out all kinds of promises that he knows that he won’t be able to keep. Ten years ago I loathed the man like I cannot begin to describe but after seeing how he led Canada he kept Canada in a much better situation than what other countries are into. The US is literally bankrupt and has been since at leasts 1933 and before. The US prints money and that is all – wait until everyone sees what is in store… Read more »
Hugger1
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Harpoon Harper AND personality in the same sentence. IMHO he has the personality of a fish flopping around on the dock waiting to be gutted. What can we thank Harper for Jules?? For lying to us, for the robocalls during elections, for passing laws he knows will be thrown out by the SCC?

PJ Robertson
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Reality check and memo for all who consider voting for Harper.

“Harper Serial Abuser of Power: The Evidence”

http://www.thetyee.ca/Documents/2015/09/24/Harper%20ebook%20final.pdf

PJ Robertson
Guest

For accuracy:

“Stephen Harper, Serial Abuser of Power: The Evidence”

Quite a record for a so called experienced leader!

David Oldham
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Is that the David Beers nut bar that was fired from the Vancouver Sun? Could you not find a more credible source to promote your hatred of Stephan Harper? As a senior anyone that wants to repeal income splitting, reduce TFSA’s to a meaningless level, insure that terrorists can keep Canada citizenship and rights although diametrically opposed us and our beliefs, create a carbon tax that doesn’t address reduction only a thirst for revenue, indulging in massive deficit spending programs at a time when interest rates can only go up, allow massive numbers of refugees relative to our population to… Read more »
Lassie
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Bernadette Clement and Guy Lauzon have had many years in politics and have proven their worth… and while “better the devil you know than the one you don’t” is a popular notion, it’s would probably be best to look for an alternative to these two. And with respect to “Terrorists”, while some New Canadians are decidedly Un-Canadian and are the target of citizenship strippers, it’s probably more prudent to accept that it was a mistake to give it to them, since it is presently unconstitutional to take it away. The Government would be better to tighten up the granting of… Read more »
Furtz
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PJ, you must realize by now that anyone who is critical of Harper is a nut-bar.

PJ Robertson
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Thanks, Furtz. Though nut bar sounds progressive from a windbag, don’t you think? A glimmer of hope perhaps? Maybe not.

jules
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I just received another e-mail form Justine’s gang. I am being bombarded with mail from mighty desperate Justine. Well to Justine’s surprise I am going out to vote for non other than Harpoon Harpo. I nver thought that I would say that about me going to vote for Harpo but this is a first. The man is doing a good job and I want tough laws and he is starting to show me the light.

Hugger1
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Jules…
Is voting???

PJ Robertson
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Abusing power and degrading Canada’s democracy is “doing a good job”? Heaven help us.

jules
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Yes Hugger I am going to vote and my family is in shock because I said that I wouldn’t vote and look at me now. I am going to vote for non other than Harpoon Harpo the man that I never trusted but he is the one I want since he is getting tougher in the laws which I want. My husband became in shock when my daughter told him that I was going to vote and for Harpoon Harpo of all things. I must be going through a period of insanity of some sort but at least I am… Read more »
Furtz
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So Jules, you are going to vote for the party that has been convicted for electoral fraud and cheating on their campaign funding in each of the last three elections? Seriously? You are okay with a party with a proven record of trying to subvert our most basic democratic principle of fair elections?

Lassie
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How ironic that, “Devon”, would direct posters to a site criticising anonymous posters, but whatever… Real people with real jobs, real families, real futures, and with half a brain, don’t put it on-the-line for ruthless morons to ruin. Stay anonymous. This Gavin McInnes fellow that rails against anonymous posters, is a ranter, less relevant even than his facial hair. The blowhard is little more than a self-promoter and a wee bit of a slime bucket if you research his early Vice days. And he sure won’t be there when you’re out of work for blowing the whistle on some military… Read more »
Hugger1
Guest

I just had a phone call from one of Guy Lauzon’s campaign workers. Last week it was one of Bernadette Clement’s campaign workers at our door (I think it was Carilyne Hébert). They never give up do they. The only thing I’ve decided is that I’m not voting for Harpoon Harper and Guy Lauzon, which I told his worker. I’d love to know what the candidates spend on mailings, etc. It seems to be a lot.

jules
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Are you folks all sitting down nicely and haven’t eaten so far. Wait until you all hear the news which I heard this morning and read and listened to a while ago. Harpoon Harpo along with Obummer and others have signed the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) and are you all in for shocks. Get ready to pay more for meds, etc. This TPP goes beyond NAFTA. Australia signed this as well and it affects what is left of our car industry, dairy, chickens, eggs, forestry, oil and gas, etc. etc. etc. I listened to two economists who were on CBC… Read more »
Furtz
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Hugger, I think Lauzon will snooze his way to an easy victory, as will Gord Brown in my riding. I wouldn’t feel too guilty about not supporting him.

jules
Guest
Furtz I am going to vote for the most capable leader in Canada and that is non other than Harpoon Harpo. Some years back I avoided voting for Harper like the plague. Harpo turned out to be the best of the lot and second is Thomas the Cat. Check out TPP that Harpoon Harpo and other world leaders signed. When I told my husband and adult kids that Harpo did not want to take in tons of refugees he was in agreement with Harpo and he said that Canada would become Islamic overtime if this was allowed. The refugees are… Read more »
jules
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Furtz no matter how you feel about Harpoon Harpo and his party I have to spit it out and say that he is the best of the lot. Lauzon has a lot of personal problems just now and people should say some prayers for Mrs. Lauzon since she is going through a terrible time. It doesn’t matter about how you feel about politics Mrs. Lauzon is not a politician and the cancer treatments take a huge toll out on the system more than the cancer itself. Keep Mrs. Lauzon in your prayers and Furtz maybe you pray to your spaghetti… Read more »
Hugger1
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Personally, I refuse to support a party and leader who have cheated and lied to the Canadian public for ten years. And no, I do not care to discuss what they’ve cheated and lied about. I’ve more or less decided I’m voting Orange. The Blues are out as outlined above. The Reds have a candidate here who can’t decide what she wants to do. She’s a three-term city councilor who has run in (at least) one provincial election and two federal elections. If she doesn’t want to represent Cornwall city residents in council how can we trust her as a… Read more »
jules
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Hugger I said it before that BernadetteClément has her eyes set on something better and se is a smart cookie and is going after what she wants. For me Thomas the Cat is second best and he is intelligent and well qualified for the job as PM besides Harpoon Harpo. Voting orange is good.

Hugger1
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With Bernadette’s hands in so many other things one has to wonder does she really want to be a city councillor. Or is she just using it as a placeholder until she can get something better?

jules
Guest

Hugger I have considered Bernadette Clément as someone who is using Cornwall like a spring board and is not there to really represent the people of Cornwall. This lady has her eyes and ears pinned for what she wants and it isn’t Cornwall. Bernadette is brown nosing her way to the top and somehow she will gradually find her niche and it isn’t in Cornwall that I guarantee. Cornwall is just a temporary thing and for anybody who is intelligent and educated they don’t stay in Cornwall for long.

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