Supreme Court of Canada will NOT hear Galganov / Brisson Forced Bilingual Sign Appeal – Breaking
CFN – Human rights champion Howard Galganov reports that today he received the much-anticipated e-mail concerning his petition made to the Supreme Court. The court of last resort was being asked to overturn a decision made by a Superior Court judge that allows muncipalities to over-ride the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Previously an Ontario Superior Court judge ruled that Russell Township violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but that doing so was acceptable. By a very slim majoriy, the township passed a bylaw which demands that all new exterior commercial signage be in English and French, not one or the other and no provision for other languages. Russell was the fourth Eastern Ontario township to do so.
Today the Township of Russell posted the following Press Statement on their website:
“In light of the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in regards to the leave of appeal from Galganov / Brisson versus Russell in the matter related to the Bilingual Sign Bylaw, we are extremely pleased that the plaintiffs were denied the hearing” said Mr. Jean Paul St-Pierre, Mayor for the Township of Russell. “It finally brings closure to the legal proceedings that were, in all instances, decided in favor of the Municipality by the court. The Court reiterates the fact that the Township was in its legal rights to adopt such bylaw and that Mr. Howard Galganov, a non-resident of the municipality, was in no position to contest the bylaw. We now can move forward for the benefit of our communities” concluded Mayor St.Pierre.”
How ironic that some Franco businesses and municipal agencies choose not to adhere to the bylaw. The municipal Fire Hall in Embrun boasts a unilingual sign which reads: “Poste de Pompiers”.
And, as we reported recently, the Francophone cultural/entertainment centre recently replaced its sign with a high tech version, but still in French only. An employee of La Maison des Arts told us that they were zoned differently (institutional/non-profit), then said that it’s because they provide French education. Apparently the centre previously had posted a small sign which explained that rationale. A member of the local community informed us that La Maison des Arts provides day care service for the French Catholic School across the street; would one not think that to be considered a business venture?
Pierre Leroux ran for and became a Russell Councillor two years ago; he told CFN that it’s widely known that one of his motivating forces in running for Council was the fact that he didn’t feel it right the way that bilingualism was forced upon local businesses. As for today’s Supreme Court announcement, as a member of Council he’s happy that the Township will not have to pay for an expensive legal battle (which he feels could have been avoided), but as a person he feels that the decision is wrong.
So, what about everyone else? People are asking ‘What’s the problem with being fair and allowing everyone a similar degree of freedom of expression?’ That’s a great question!
In our short clip, viewers can plainly see that the animated sign is unilingual and hear for themselves the explanation we received from a staff member of the arts centre.
Galganov was among the presenters at the recent annual Christmas Luncheon hosted by Canadians for Language Fairness at an Ottawa area restaurant. At the gathering, Galganov told the crowd:
“If the Supreme Court decides that they’re not going to hear the case, then it becomes the law of Canada. Any municipality can legislate, not just on issues of language and culture, but on any of the guarantees in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Charter is essentially a Charter of Suggestions. Any time a judge or group of judges of one mindset or the other can decide what is to be protected and what is not to be protected it means we have no guarantees. Freedom of Expression is the foremost guarantee we have in any free society.”
In our highlight video clip (unedited footage provided by Danno Saunt) each of the key presenters at the CLF Luncheon (Beth Trudeau, Howard Galganov, Nick Vandergragt, Brian Lilley, Ron Barr and Jack MacLaren) shares an update on their involvement in the ongoing struggle to preserve basic human rights here in Canada.
It is anticipated that Galganov as well as Language Fairness for All and Canadians for Language Fairness will step up their efforts locally and nationally.
Don Smith reports on a variety of topics, notably good news items as well as social justice issues.
@ Stella,
So you wrote what I said or not?
This is not rocket science here?
Regards,
Curly
4% in North America is very generous Pierre.
Try 1 point 9%
Most people do not have an issue with French trying to survive, paying for it, in both tax and career, is a different matter.
@ Pierre,
In my last post I never mentioned the FLQ
I would like you to expalin why somone who always checks things, has not reponded to the issues i brought up in my last post: Jan 9th. 2013 at 12:26 P.M.
P.M.’S
CCH
One anglo p.m. one franco P.M.
The sources you use, you can’t be serious, a 4th grade history book-come on, and you want to challenage people with that?
A History of your own province
Prominent quebec people
I’d be particularly interested in again, where you get your material
It is certainly from different sources that I have ever witnessed.
as One example
P.M.’S before 1867
Before 1867 Canada was not even a nation , were you aware of this?
regards
Curly
I think Pierre just sent me a private note suggesting I was a racist. Pierre you kinda of are pushing the boundaries of my hospitality dude. I’m a huge believer in Free Speech, even if you’re a dumb ass, but that doesn’t mean you can cry fire in a theatre or defame or slander people.
It’s one of the reasons I keep telling a bunch of people to argue and debate the point and leave the names and personal attacks out.
@ highliner
It was not the first time an event was interupted because of a threat of violence. This event was canceled by the federal government.
I don’t think that canadian history is interpreted differently by Québec and Canada but Canada did try, a few years ago, to drop a some controversal parts of it, whitewash it, as it were, but the historians, mostly francophone refused that.
@ stella,
You made a comment saying what peace loving Canadians want
Did you conduct a poll we are not aware of?
If so, please share.
In my statistics cource I believe a ramdom sample to be accuraste 18/20 times is about 1000 people of various demograpgic groups.
can you please fill us in on the details of your most recent sample and demographic
Thanks,
regards
Curly
@ Admin… For your eyes only
You can call me a dumb ass all you want but the definition I gave, of racism, in that post is factual. It comes from the “Bnai Brit” and was made publicly. The fact that I denounced highlander’s post, a post that you accepted, as racist is because, it clearly accuses all Quebecois of being racists.
It would have helped to stop, the racism that is spewed on your blog.
I try to keep these words between us, but you insult me publicaly…
Very nice of you. You should try to be more fair.
@ Curly
See, you won’t talk about your statement about not being able to buy an hamburger in Hull because you know that it’s not defendable. You’d rahter attack the facts I present on my other post… Why do you people do that?
Pierre I think I just about give up on you. Nobody can be that dense without it being on purpose or involving a hunting accident…
@ Pierre,
was the hamburger story your girlfriend bought in your grade 4 history book?
you bring up one isolated incident and we are to believe this is the norm in Hull?
Come On
Also please reply to the numerous questions concerning where you got your info.
You always brag you check things out
nowe is your chance to shine and tell us where you got your info on:
CCH
PM pre confederation
Readings of quebec’s prominent people
COMMAND BY THE CONSTITUTION
one anglo p.m. and one franco p.m.
etc. etc.
You checked it, now as you say Prove it
I wnat to see in writing, not a grade 4 history book or wikapedia, or the net. What are your sources and please have more than one that is at least crediable
Regards
Curly
@ Admin
Why do you say that?
What do you mean by saying that nobody can be that dense without it being on purpose or being involved in a hunting accident?
As I ask the others on your blog.
Can you provide us with concrete evidence before you accuse me?
And saying, “everybody knows it is not evidence”.
@ Stella
On jan 8th , 2013 4:26 p.m.
you said and I quote:
” What a childish and sh-t disturbing comment” GROW UP
Do you feel that by swearing, that people will take you more seriously?
Some people would say that having to swear to get your point across is sign of low self- esteem
regards,
Curly
@ pierre
I hope you take this in the spirit that it is intended.
If I can be so candid, You make a variety of statements that you believe to be crediable.
you look up old history books, the net wikapedia and so on. These are but a tiny few of the sources available to people.
Do you know what a primary source is?
Do you know how to really research ?
It takes a lot more than the net and wikapedia to develop a consensus, which is usually arrived at by looking at at least three to four primary sources before a conclusion can be made.
You are a boy playing a man’s game.
many people here have at least a university degree and maybe more. Those that don’t usually have the common sense not to comment on things they cannot substanciate
you revert to name calling and saying people are bigots, because they CAN BACK UP THEIR STATEMENTS.
Peopel only call other people names when they are usually wrong or backed into a corner, as you have many, many times.
For example, you alluded that there were P.M. prior to confederation, in upper and lower Canada.
this is simply not true, there were no P.M. prior to confederation in 1867.
You also said that there was one francophone P.M. and this was alternated with an Anglophone P,M,
Not true, look up the P,M, since confederation.
You have stated many many inaccuracies in your posts and have been called on them from far more educated and inteligent and experienced people than you.
I strongly suggest, if you are going to blog in the future, that you in fact be sure of what you say. You look very inept and foolish in some of the asserations you try to pass of, as fact
This is for your own good
Regards,
Curly
@ curly
Don’t play games with me please?
You talked about the FLQ in your Jan 9, 10:41 post and that’s what I responded to.
I can’t respond to your 10:26 post because it’s on older comments on the previous page and if I go there I’ll have to write this post over again. From memory I’ll answer the questions you asked me. Don’t hold it against me if I mix your posts up.
The reason I mentioned the fourth grade was to indicate, to you, that I know the History of Canada as well as the next person.
If you want corroboration of my historical facts, just go to Winipedia , that should be a reliable enough source for you, check under Constitution in Canada, then click on history of the Constitution. It will teach you about the “Pre Constitution days”
Inform conform to you the truth of what I said about the bilingualism conventions, of those times, and how they alternated betwen frenh speaking and english speaking Prime Ministers of Upper and Lower Canada.
You must understand that though the Constitution was signed in 1867 The country of Canada was a work in process, that started belore 1867 and was not terminated before 1929 I believe, at the signing of the West Minster? accord.
As I ‘ve said before:
That was then, and this now!
I am much more interesting in disproving your claims as to how Anglos are mistreated in Québec than defending my knowledge of history…
Remenber, we are supposed to be debating Don Smith’s question as to whether Canada is a democratic country that respects human rights, and I argue, against you(s), that it is because, of it’s bilingualism policy that is in the Constitution and the Bill or Charter of Rights that itis so.
@ stalla,
Please respond, I really want to know the details of your poll.
Oh, I almost forgot, what demographic GROUPS did you poll?
There are usually 4 -5 to be considered under the guidelines of statiistical analysis.
I suppose you know that the most accurate of these are considered to be the primary group based on the type of question you have asked.
looking forward to hearing from you regarding your poll
Regards,
curly
@ curly
Nobody has backed up their statements except me.
All you’ve ever advanced was Just uncorroboraed, one sided speaches and opinions, that’s all.
I’ve given you names of journalists and english rights defenders in Aylmer, their e-mail addresses. I’ve asked you to check your facts in the encyclopedia and on the net, Winipedia, etc. I’ve told you to check the Constitution of Canada, the Canadian Charter of Rights because they support my arguments.
You refute everything. Only you(s) are right.
I guess you can do that on a blog such as this, but you would be kicked off any important debate that attempts to resolve a serious question.
Now, let’s discuss the validity of your outragious claim as to anglos not being able to by a hamburger, in Hull.
If you(s) can’t prove your claims here, you sure won’t be able to proove anything, on the Hill
pierre I gave a link to a ctv montreal article to back up my question that was ignored for weeks. How much back up does one need. Because I too have a grade four Canadian history class behind me. In fact, I have a highschool Canadian history class under my belt as well. Does that give me more credibility than you?
@curly…..I don’t need a poll…….just consensus and common sense **smile**
You see, I don’t spend 24/7 checking websites to prove a point like you and your gang does…..waste of time and energy. Anyhow if one chose to take the time to research and they prove you wrong, they are called every name in the book……..why bother?
Many may have a university degree but have no common sense, actually I could name a few…….so what’s your point? Nor does being booksmart necessarily make one smarter…..ca-vas?
One doesn’t have to be a scientist to see what the english freedom fighters are trying to do to this country.
@ bella-b
I don’ t know what you’re talking about.
You’ve, as far as I know, never talked about canadian history.
You were just having your kicks, insulting other people.
@ Pierre,
I never said an anglo could not buy a hambuger in Hull.
Please ,again make reference to that blog
Where in hell did you get that from?
all I said was, the experience your girlfriend, if true, was isolated.
For every incidence that you bring, I am sure others can find one or more that is contrary to yours.
as for constitutional issues ,you are the person that makes references to the constitution not me.
You are always opening up the door here.
By doing so, you have become vulerable to crediability of fact.
you still insist that there were prime Ministers of Upper and lower canada, this is simply false.
The leaders of these entites were govenors not P.M.’s
it is this lack of knowledge, from not only the past, but from even most recent history that you fail.
Do you know the primary intent of Bill101?
The bill that francphones so treasure
Have you ever, read the life of Camille Lauren?
Do you know who he is?
As for the past, well, any person with an once of common sense, knows that the here and now ( the present) is shaped and guided by the past.
we evolve as a society based on the past.
Just as decisions made today have an enormous impact on the future. So, historically all is tied together.
Pierre, mature people can disagree, without personal bias or dislike of personality .
FYI The Treaty of Westminister, did not end anything.
What that treaty did, was it allowed canadian law ,passed in canada not to have to be ratified in England, by the british parliament, as per the constituion or BNA act, as was signed in 1867
Again, you are out of your league
As for refuting your statements, well, that`s easy, I simply disprove, using historical and sources that can be verified and by more than one source.
Anglos, treated unfairly in quebec. Yes on a daily basis. By the very fact that their freedom has been restricted by bill 101 , and they carry a Canadian passport, pay quebec taxes and are not permitted to put up signage of their choice, that is discrimination.
By the fact they have got very unreasonable rectrictions to education, yes that is discriminatory.
Maybe, you should present bill 101 to an American or anyone else that is impartial and see what conclusion they would draw
Its legal to put a sign in frecnh and any other language BUT ENGLISH, this is the very essance of what discrimination is.
it is legal, NOT BECAUSE IT IS CONSTITUTIONAL , BUT BEACUSE it can be overridden by the NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE
Pierre, with all due respect, I strongly suggest, you get educated, grow up a bit and befriend and English person, not your girlfriend, but an honest to goodness anglo, so you can experience the other side of the coin
Regards,
Curly
admin
January 9, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Pierre I think I just about give up on you. Nobody can be that dense without it being on purpose or involving a hunting accident…
I still wondering why you haven’t taken this arrogant ,individual off.
You really have given freedom of speech a chance ,he not even allowed on Lowell green show anymore for his rants .
(Please stop making me moderate you Highlander)
@Stellanotsobright
Quote: I ALWAYS said that learning french was a personal choice and and that no one was ever forced to learn it…….GOT THAT. end quote.
Stella, didn’t you tell me I should have learned French to keep my job? I was in the job before a Francophone declared it bilingual.
Do you call that a personal choice?
@Stella
Quote:
where I said bilingualism is mandatory in this country………I will gladly pay them a 3 day w/e all expenses paid to a ski resort of their choice.
end quote.
You told me I should have learned French in order to keep my job.
That’s mandatory, not personal choice. I qualify for you reward.
Please send a cheque to cover two persons for 3 days at Whistler, including air fare. Send it to c/o admin for Ken.
@ Stella
facts are obtained by verification. In this case it is the only way of obtainig that verification,so yes a poll is not only needed, but necessary
reasearch is one of the keys to knowledge, by denying that, you sell yourself short, and it shows
Your characterization of common sense, is interesting.
mearsuring common sense by denying your self knowledge, as you have proven you do, shows that you lack the very common sense you fool yourself into believing you have
being educated definitly makes one smarter, more knowledgeable and far better prepared to debate, argue and conquer any and all ignorance that the uneducated may pocess.
People with common sense, educated or not, rarely open their mouths, without first being able to know what they are talking about
Regards,
Curly
@ stella,
You conviently ducked addressing my question regarding your swearing”
I asked does swearing make you think people will take you more seriously
some say that many people who swear have a problem with self-esteem
regards
curly
Yes Ken I did say that….however, I also said that being this country has two official languages you should have had the initiative and the insight to know that somewhere down the line advanced french would be paramount in order to keep your job…..especially when working for a Quebec employer.
Pierre
January 9, 2013 at 4:34 pm
“Nobody has backed up their statements except me”
Liar Liar pants on fire!!!
I’ve asked you to check your facts in the encyclopedia and on the net, Winipedia, etc. I’ve told you to check the Constitution of Canada, the Canadian Charter of Rights because they support my arguments.
Pierre in the debate its for person who writes the statement that is to provide the facts!links anything to back what you say -rather then “because I told you so”
bella-b
January 9, 2013 at 5:00 pm
“pierre I gave a link to a ctv montreal article to back up my question that was ignored for weeks.”
she did provide the link to back her statement -so Pierre Liar Liar pants on fire!
stellabystarlight
January 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm
(1)”@curly…..I don’t need a poll…….just consensus and common sense **smile**”
(2)”You see, I don’t spend 24/7 checking websites to prove a point like you and your gang does…..waste of time and energy.”
1-So Stella this was more propaganda ,so how can you back your statement with an idiotic comment like that ***S***.
2-So its nice that you admit that we do the research to prove our point -but at the same time you stated that you do not research your biased statements as its a wast of time -basically your statements are unfounded? ***s**.
After Stella’s last post -I think its warranted to call her Stella/not/so/bright,-Education sure wasn’t your thing ,but at last its not needed french is more important then education.
@ highlander
I was not aware that pierre was off Lowell Green”s show
He certainly can make himself look very foolish
The more he posts the st-p-der we know he is
Give someone enogh rope and they h–g themselves.
Regards
Curly
Sorry to burst your bubble Ken. I said the trip goes to anyone who can find a post where I said one must be bilingual in this country.
What I said to you is you should have had the insight and intiative to learn french………big difference.
@ HIGHLANDER
Your post jan 9th 5:58
Great post highlander
maybe its me, but how can people go public with stupid and ignorant statements and expect to be taken seriously
have they any clue as to how much they are making fools of themselves.?
Imagine if they went public with their true identities.
They would be laughed out of town
regards,
curly
@ Stella. “From day one, I ALWAYS said that learning french was a personal choice and and that no one was ever forced to learn it…….GOT THAT”
Stella I would really like to know when and where did you make the personal choice to learn English? I would sincerely love to compare your decision to learn English with the one my mother made for me to learn French.
@ stella
I think your money would be better spent on an education
@ The unholy trinity curly, leo and tap tap
Let’s discuss the hamburger lie,
or are you too scared?
Oh highlander how many times have you asked me to prove that your fabrications and unsubstantiated opinions are just that.
Even when I show exacly where the constitution proves me right or the courts or the politicians or the CCH managers, etc you refute everything, everyone… Me, us/them, it.
I repeat I don’t know what you think you can win with such a negative attitude… Unless you’re working for admin as a devil’s advocate.
insight and initiative? most bilingual people i know learned french at home first
@ stella
I believe, if forced bilingualism was gone, I would then be motivated to take french
As long as people are forced to do things, it leaves a very bitter taste in their mouths,
Suggestions to take french is a far better motivator, than YOU HAVE TO BE BILINGUAL
regards
Curly
P.S. What about your swearing stella, is low self esteem a problem for you?
@ Stella. You really should address Curly’s concern about you posting swear words in your comments. Curly clearly has a very low tolerance for BS like that. You should have shown more respect, and said doo-doo disturber instead of Sh!t disturber. Now, go wash your mouth out with soap. Bad girl!
Know what curly….I really and honestly don’t care what you think or say. Your comments mean absolutely nothing to me…..comprends-tu? **smile**
Actually, your arrogance is amusing and funny. If your comments boosts your ego, makes you feel above the rest and more of a man…..good for you. **smile** Those types are usually not very welcome in society. When guys like you feel the need to continuously put other’s down, it is a sign of low self-esteem.
Let me explain for you. By putting others down you may think it makes you look smarter and better, but it doesn’t **smile** What it does is it lowers you even more then the one you are attacking……ca-vas? If you need further explanations, let me know.
@ ken
It sure is what I said too. You would’nt or could’nt learn french and you did’nt.
Good for you and good for the bilingual guy who got your job.
Great country, Canada!
@ stella
How come no responses. I would have thought that a person of your background and breeding would have the gumption of a reply to queries posted here
Is this the stella we have come to lknow and love, a ghost, that lurks in the shadows of an annoymous naysayther ready to pounce on her enemies
Where art thou fair stella?
have yee gone silent ?
regards
Curly
stellabystarlight
January 9, 2013 at 6:06 pm
So Stella does the PM have to be bilingual?
@ curly leo tap tap.
If you wonder why green and othe broadcaster don’t put down the Francophone or bilingualism, anymore.
It’s because I (PaysanP) stopped them.
And, I wanted to stop you(s), but as opposed to cfra and it’s broadcasters, you have nothing to lose except your dignity.
And Curly. If you wash your ears out with strong soap after hearing strong language you will be OK after a few hours. Same with your eyes if you stumble upon offensive text. Take care, my friend. It’s a dangerous world out there.
Fight On!
curly
January 9, 2013 at 6:03 pm
‘He certainly can make himself look very foolish”
-much like Trudeau JR.cant help open his mouth insert foot .poor little rich kid -mommy’s brain daddies name.
Thanks curly they make it easy for me ,not very bright in fact rather self defeating of them.
Notice whenever our side mentions some historical event like the victory by the British (which btw was the determining factor as to the reason why the common language — for all of Canada — is “ENGLISH”) by general Wolfe over the defeated General Montcalm on the Plains of Abraham —
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(pls note: Out of “respect” I capitalize both the word – French – and in this case you defeated leaders name as well. Something – the other side rarely does – )
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— or the how violent and radical the FLQ was — in the name of the French revolution — and in the name of a separate Quebec, the other side consistently makes a point to say “this was long ago.”
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As if to say because it was long ago it should be forgotten.
But, whenever there is some historical event that favors their side like Charles de Gaulle saying, “vivre la Quebec libre” they are RIGHT QUICK to bring it up at the drop of a hat and also quick to denounce anyone that turns the tables and say’s, “oh that’s ancient history.”
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In other words, they only believe in remembering “the historical parts” that favor their side. Typical.
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They generally only believe in something that favors their side.
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Like how they believe a father in panic for the potential death of his young daughter should be the one to – accommodate — the hired help paramedic that has the nerve to demanding to be spoken to in French. Right !!!
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Quite the “belief system.”
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Matter of fact they won’t even allow —
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imagine the French people in charge of a “province” superseding the actual countries (you know CANADA) will on this kind of historical situation
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— a statue of our great victorious General Wolfe is not being permitted to stand in its rightful place — on CANADIAN SOIL — right there on the plains of Abraham in Quebec, Canada. Something the French don’t like for us to remind them of but also something we should be proud of and stand up for. Just as those involved should have fought for the right to have that re-enactment. Like it or not, IT IS PART OF OUR HISTORY. Too freekin bad if “SOME” are offended… How do you think the English feel with your Franco flags flying everywhere in front of our national buildings and monuments everywhere. Don’t you understand how that can be offensive to the English who cannot even fly the Anglo flag in front of ONE BUILDING on ONE DAY in ONE province ? Yeah… We know who believes they are more important.
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AND EVEN beyond that, my father, and many other brave English Canadian men fought in great wars for the freedom to be ABLE to celebrate “ALL OF CANADA’S HISTORICAL PAST” not just the past that suits the French.
@ stella,
What about that swearing there stella?
Holy Jumpin’, Edudyorlik! You’re gonna blow a gasket if you aren’t careful. Just saying…
The Globe and Mail, Wednesday, January 9, 2013:
SCIENCE
The case for bilingualism
It makes your brain stronger
Using two languages staves off dementia, researchers find
Hey Stella, hope you answer my question. I’m anxious to know how you became so fluent in both languages and I didn’t.
@ curly
Imagine how great it would be if you learned french…
YOU COULD FINALLY GET A HAMBURGER IN “LA BELLE PROVINCE DE QUÉBEC”.
MERVEILLEUX!