Supreme Court of Canada will NOT hear Galganov / Brisson Forced Bilingual Sign Appeal – Breaking
CFN – Human rights champion Howard Galganov reports that today he received the much-anticipated e-mail concerning his petition made to the Supreme Court. The court of last resort was being asked to overturn a decision made by a Superior Court judge that allows muncipalities to over-ride the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Previously an Ontario Superior Court judge ruled that Russell Township violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but that doing so was acceptable. By a very slim majoriy, the township passed a bylaw which demands that all new exterior commercial signage be in English and French, not one or the other and no provision for other languages. Russell was the fourth Eastern Ontario township to do so.
Today the Township of Russell posted the following Press Statement on their website:
“In light of the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in regards to the leave of appeal from Galganov / Brisson versus Russell in the matter related to the Bilingual Sign Bylaw, we are extremely pleased that the plaintiffs were denied the hearing” said Mr. Jean Paul St-Pierre, Mayor for the Township of Russell. “It finally brings closure to the legal proceedings that were, in all instances, decided in favor of the Municipality by the court. The Court reiterates the fact that the Township was in its legal rights to adopt such bylaw and that Mr. Howard Galganov, a non-resident of the municipality, was in no position to contest the bylaw. We now can move forward for the benefit of our communities” concluded Mayor St.Pierre.”
How ironic that some Franco businesses and municipal agencies choose not to adhere to the bylaw. The municipal Fire Hall in Embrun boasts a unilingual sign which reads: “Poste de Pompiers”.
And, as we reported recently, the Francophone cultural/entertainment centre recently replaced its sign with a high tech version, but still in French only. An employee of La Maison des Arts told us that they were zoned differently (institutional/non-profit), then said that it’s because they provide French education. Apparently the centre previously had posted a small sign which explained that rationale. A member of the local community informed us that La Maison des Arts provides day care service for the French Catholic School across the street; would one not think that to be considered a business venture?
Pierre Leroux ran for and became a Russell Councillor two years ago; he told CFN that it’s widely known that one of his motivating forces in running for Council was the fact that he didn’t feel it right the way that bilingualism was forced upon local businesses. As for today’s Supreme Court announcement, as a member of Council he’s happy that the Township will not have to pay for an expensive legal battle (which he feels could have been avoided), but as a person he feels that the decision is wrong.
So, what about everyone else? People are asking ‘What’s the problem with being fair and allowing everyone a similar degree of freedom of expression?’ That’s a great question!
In our short clip, viewers can plainly see that the animated sign is unilingual and hear for themselves the explanation we received from a staff member of the arts centre.
Galganov was among the presenters at the recent annual Christmas Luncheon hosted by Canadians for Language Fairness at an Ottawa area restaurant. At the gathering, Galganov told the crowd:
“If the Supreme Court decides that they’re not going to hear the case, then it becomes the law of Canada. Any municipality can legislate, not just on issues of language and culture, but on any of the guarantees in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Charter is essentially a Charter of Suggestions. Any time a judge or group of judges of one mindset or the other can decide what is to be protected and what is not to be protected it means we have no guarantees. Freedom of Expression is the foremost guarantee we have in any free society.”
In our highlight video clip (unedited footage provided by Danno Saunt) each of the key presenters at the CLF Luncheon (Beth Trudeau, Howard Galganov, Nick Vandergragt, Brian Lilley, Ron Barr and Jack MacLaren) shares an update on their involvement in the ongoing struggle to preserve basic human rights here in Canada.
It is anticipated that Galganov as well as Language Fairness for All and Canadians for Language Fairness will step up their efforts locally and nationally.
Don Smith reports on a variety of topics, notably good news items as well as social justice issues.
PJ Robertson
January 9, 2013 at 9:31 pm
The Globe and Mail, Wednesday, January 9, 2013:
SCIENCE
The case for bilingualism
It makes your brain stronger
Using two languages staves off dementia, researchers find
old Rehashed story ,there was a similar article 8 months ago .
But thanks anyways.
the same was said for any learning games :
Suduko
chess
checkers
ect,ect,ect
Oh taking courses as well staves off dementia,
Most learning activities staves off dementia .
So PJ there is more to staving off dementia then just language ,but good try on trying to misinform people.
Paul-Émile Cardinal Léger accepting an honorary degree from the University of Montreal in 1974,…… made this point.
“I remember walking through the Luxembourg Gardens in Paris in 1928, as a young priest and hearing the chatter of the children, as clear as the chirping of the birds and the splashing of the water in the fountains. It will not be by laws, regulations, fines, and harassments, that a language is promoted. It is by speaking your language in a way that to hear it, others will wish to speak it also.”
Pierre
January 9, 2013 at 7:02 pm
“Good for you and good for the bilingual guy who got your job.
Great country, Canada!”
How is language more important then education and experience GOOD FOR CANADA? arrogance again.
Pierre
January 9, 2013 at 7:14 pm
“If you wonder why green and othe broadcaster don’t put down the Francophone or bilingualism, anymore.
It’s because I (PaysanP) stopped them.
And, I wanted to stop you(s), but as opposed to cfra and it’s broadcasters, you have nothing to lose except your dignity.”
what a sense of inflated ego and arrogance in the above comment.
You will not stop us from advocating for fair government hiring ,merit first not language !
@ pierre
I am part of the majority that chooses to bask in the world’s international language.
beside, we have Harvey’s , MacDonald’s and the good old fashioned diners that will serve a HAMBURGER as opposed to an hambourgois, or whatever new spin quebec puts on the English language.
it tastes better and Doesn’t require any one to measure the lettering
keep trying to force us to speak french, and how is that going for you?
@ pierre
I am part of the majority that chooses to bask in the world’s international language.
beside, we have Harvey’s , MacDonald’s and the good old fashioned diners that will serve a HAMBURGER as opposed to an hambourgois, or whatever new spin quebec puts on the English language.
it tastes better and Doesn’t require any one to measure the lettering
keep trying to force us to speak french, and how is that going for you?
regards
Curly
Just a reminder to all. This isn’t a personal high school flame attack bar. If you can’t debate an issue without using personal attacks your comments will be deleted. End of. And if we have to delete too many of your posts your IP number will be blocked. They have medication if you can’t control yourself and moderate your behavior…
moderator -I will try to play nice in the sandbox ,but I do not take well to the bullies.
I apologize for any inconvenience Jamie ,its really hard to swallow it and told it taste good.
Highlander I stand up to bullies each and every day. It’s not easy, but it comes down to debating the point made by the person. Not just name calling. I’m not trying to be anal, but when it becomes about the people posting instead of the subject then it’s gone too far. We are not CFRA or Sun News. We aim higher and people read this stuff.
Thanks to you and all of our passionate viewers that post their opinions. We don’t mean to diminish that; we just ask that everyone respect CFN and this platform by not crossing lines. And to the whiners that send me personal emails or messages whining I’m just going to block your ip numbers. Stop the name calling; it’s that simple. Sadly today I blocked an ip address. Maybe when this person regains sanity and requests to be back they will; but until then not.
Rosie….yes I will respond. I only respond to those who’s questions make sense. I don’t bother answering to false accusations that misquote my posts……..waste of time **smile**
My Mother was French, could hardly speak a word of english and my Dad was english could hardly speak a word of french when they got married which would explain my being bilingual. They learned each other’s language over the years and were quite successful because of that. I always went to all french schools, taught by nuns…..lol. I was raised in an english neighborhood
and because english is so much easier to learn, we were all sent to french schools. We had no problem with that because we WANTED to be fluent in both languages, knowing that when our studies were completed, being bilingual would be an asset.
French is the most beautiful language on earth, it’s warm, charming and very attractive when well spoken. I know someone here who claims to be highly educated and bilingual. He says he can’t find a reasonable job and has the gall to blame it on discrimination……..his french is horrible lol Bilingual is being able to write and speak properly in both languages. When someone claims they are fully bilingual but can’t find work, there is more to it then meets the eye.
Rosie….With all due respect, I hope this answer your query **smile**
A certain poster just had his ip address blocked. Not because of his position or language. Because he’s an utter idiot that kept emailing and pestering me. Wonder where he’ll brag about myself and Lowell now?
stellabystarlight
January 10, 2013 at 10:42 am
“French is the most beautiful language on earth, it’s warm, charming and very attractive when well spoken.”
Yes Persian french may be considered a beautiful language ,but please do not compare to Quebecois french,in doing so would insult the Persians.
“He says he can’t find a reasonable job and has the gall to blame it on discrimination……..his french is horrible lol Bilingual is being able to write and speak properly in both languages.”
There you go insulting others again Stella who are you to judge someones bilingual capability,the effort is made yet you mock him .
But at last this is far from unusual for your ilk .***S***
I have met many government “bilingual ” status employee’s who were barley discernible in English ,but very fluent in french .
The measurement of bilingual status is very different when it comes to mother tongue.
CCH unprofessionally tests for french ,yet for English they do not -one must consider CCH operates in English -there is clearly 2 different sets of standards.
admin
January 10, 2013 at 10:15 am
Highlander I stand up to bullies each and every day.
admin I respect that ,its unfortunate that usually the smaller person or the different person is treated as such and for you speaking up has cost you in that regard.
But its through adversity does one come to shine.
True freedom of speech is hard to attain as interests groups attempt to diminish that freedom for their own interests .
Rock on Jamie.The people need an independent local media ,as the voice of the people and for the people .
Highlander
January 10, 2013 at 11:29 am
correction :
CCH professionally tests for french ,yet for English they do not -one must consider CCH operates in English -there is clearly 2 different sets of standards.
For Highlander life must be a dream: Science is meaningless, the Globe and Mail misinforms, Harper is revered, it doesn’t matter if you can’t spell in your own language, it’s okay to bend facts and words, and just fine to have an answer for every post.
How much better can it get?
Jamie…….I am not trying to get brownies point here but you must be commended for the remarkable job you do. Absolutely…no one has to tolerate abuse. Thanks to you, this site is quite reasonable. Even though at times posters can inadvertently get carried away, your tenacity on the proper rules of conduct and your patience are greatly appreciated.
Stella I try. I’m not perfect. It’s when it gets to excess and silly that it sadly has to be stopped. Like I said. People read this stuff…
@Stella
stellabystarlight
January 9, 2013 at 5:57 pm
Stella, before I came to Canada I was totally unaware that French was spoken here; quite an unpleasant surprise when we disembarked from the ship in Montreal.
Having arrived here and made my way, same day, to Toronto, I was much relieved to find I hadn’t come to a “Foreign” country and that English was the common language here.
Second point, I was working for a Crown Corporation, in Hull, not a Quebec company. My boss was an Anglophone, no French language and I later assumed his position. The working relationship between myself and the employees, 99% Francophones, was excellent. Never a problem communicating.
I did receive, at very great government expense, French tuition
but that was only because the Franco “BOSS” declared my position bilingual. I will repeat, there was no communication between me and the employees. Now, to use your own argument, do you think while I learned French, the employees should all have learned English – isn’t it a two way street? Isn’t it ridiculous?
I was forced out of my job only because I am English.
highlander…..I am not comparing our French to Parisienne French…..ca-vas?
highlander I am asking you politely to quit miscontruing the posts and turning it around as a personal attack to suit yourself…….especially when it doesn’t concern you. Got that? Enough of your nonsense. One doesn’t have to be a genius to know when a person is fluent in a language or not.
PJ absolutely….the piper does this all the time and has been doing it for a year now. Enough already!!
This is a test because I seem to be blocked.
(YOU WILL BE BLOCKED IF YOU KEEP BEING A XXXX DISTURBER :))
@Stellanotsobright
Quote: What I said to you is you should have had the insight and intiative to learn french………big difference.
end quote.
Stella, No difference. No need for me to have learned French, I stepped into the shoes of a unilingual Anglophone, no necessity, insight or requirement to learn French. At best it would have been a courtesy. Not as if I was in a French language dominated
foreign country, such as France, although it has become that way today.
Incidently English is quite common in France, no one insisted on me speaking French there, though I do my best because the common language is French.
In an indirect way you are saying it was obligatory for me to learn French, and that is just another way of saying mandatory.
You lost, I won, now put your money where your mouth is, concede and send the cheque to admin s.v.p.
@P.J.Robertson
Quote: The Globe and Mail, Wednesday, January 9, 2013:
SCIENCE
The case for bilingualism
It makes your brain stronger
Using two languages staves off dementia, researchers find
end quote.
So does speaking German, some Italian, a little Spanish, all self taught, playing the piano and sex help.
I recall a very high profile military friend saying, “If I wanted to learn a useful language, it would probably be Russian, definitely not French”. That would stave of dementia wouldn’t it?
So what is your point.
@stellanotsobright
Quote: stellabystarlight
January 10, 2013 at 12:56 pm
The point highlander was making was not being factious, or flippant. I can attest to understanding and being understood in France because i refused to speak “Quebecois”.
I cannot understand any of the French spoken in Cornwall.
There is a very big difference. It is worth noting P.E.T. insisted on learning to speak Parisien French in his very early days in preparation for the world stage.
Adieu pierre.
Si triste que vous ne pouvait pas jouer selon les règles.
Gardez secouer ce buisson!
*s*
xoxo
When is the CLF rally?
Not trying to be smart-ass here, but comparing Quebec French to Parisian (not Persian) French is like comparing Eastern Ontario English to The Queen’s English.
I have contacted the CLF and so far there was talk of a parliament hill rally, but no one seems to know when
I am a frim believer, that bilingualism has to go in canada, and I am grateful that this group exists.
I also think that the English are threatened in their culture, if one reads the article by J.V. Andrew, bilingualism today, french tomorrow.
For those of you who have yet to read it, I strongly suggest you do.
Cheers
It is an essential read for all who wnat an English only Canada.
The point, dear Ken, should be clear from my post. Simply to FYI readers of CFN about a report on a topic that has been beaten to death on this thread. That’s all. All the words in the post are the G&M’s, not mine. So an opportunity for you, too, to read the article and enlighten yourself, even if you know all the answers already.
So, I go to a public school in Cornwall to pick up my child before dismissal, while waiting in the office I observe a small boy(kindergarten) hanging out with the secretary. The principal walks in & asks what is he here for & secretary says, “he doesn’t like french,so he’s hanging out with me”. Seems this little guy is spending many afternoons with secretary only because he doesn’t like french.
My question is how is forced bilingualism helping our children???
This left a very empty & sad feeling with me all day.
My kids are in immersion, but I wonder everyday am I helping or hindering their education…
If I can jump in here. people will react in a more positive manner if they WANT to do something.
To force people to do anything in life is negative.
People pay taxes, but for the most part hate it.
People pay tolls, and hate it.
People pay bills and hate it. And on and on
these are NECESSITIES.
However, language choice is NOT A NECESSITY.
This is particularly so, when in canada, the majority of people are English.
If one chooses to speak and learn french, ok, no problem and good for them. However, that same right should be accorded to Englsih as well.
This is not a complicated issue. But the government ,for reasons dating back to trudeau, insists on FORCING people to be bilingual.
Ok, so the feds make people try to make people speak french. Then what?
Private companies, particualarly in the west and NFLD, will not stand for this. Nor will their provincial counterparts.
So it is all for naught.
I say,live and let live.
Those that want to speak french, God bless them, those that don’t…. ditto
But when you FORCE , THEN you run the risk of a severe backlash , from THE PEOPLE.
This is especially true if people begin to loose jobs, and this is starting to happen in this region. That and the fact that there is too much of a spill over from quebec.
Lets hope hope the backlash is confined to legal measures, before radicals enter the fray.
@Peter
Quote: It is an essential read for all who wnat an English only Canada. end quote.
Just a subtle suggestion to one and all supporters.
Say and write Anglophone when referring to the people.
Use English when referring to the language.
We want to be inclusive of the hundred or more immigrants from around the world who use English as the common language of communication across Canada, while maintaining without fear,
their own ethnic language in their homes and with their friends.
Unlike the French who claim they are losing their language and trying to foist it on Anglophones to preserve it.
Check the post by bella-b on how to preserve a language.
Well put Bella, you are a true historian.
@ PJ. We are seriously outnumbered here. Time to retreat, lick wounds, and crack a Hacker-Pschorr.
P.J.
Quoting you:
So an opportunity for you, too, to read the article and enlighten yourself, even if you know all the answers already.
and
The case for bilingualism
It makes your brain stronger
end quote.
PJ
As has been said here before, nothing new in that article. It’s symptomatic of people who think they have discovered something new and feel an urge to write about it. G&M must be hard up for reporters and Universities for better studies.
Now I’m wondering why you would bring it to the forum unless it is to suggest learning French would stimulate ones brain and inhibit the onset of dementia.
It’s interesting that no one ever mentions that all French Canadians should learn English to get a job in Ontario, and yet somehow they are getting the jobs over and above Anglophones. I wonder why.
I had a French employee who asked if the BOSS would organise an English course. The Franco BOSS said, “NO, it isn’t necessary to learn English”. That was around 1975.
Seems being French opens all the doors regardless of competence in the English language.
Gee…..Some of these posters change their moniker like they change their underwear. Interesting!!!
OMG cc2…..hmmm, for some reason your post doesn’t seem too kosher…..sounds like there may be some omissions. I doubt any school principle would let a child spend a day with the secretary. I also doubt that the secretary would reply the way you said she did.
If the child really had a problem with french, the principle would request that the child be changed schools. It has been done many many times……that I know for a fact.
peter
January 10, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Welcome to CFN ,
well said
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This is especially true if people begin to loose jobs, and this is starting to happen in this region. That and the fact that there is too much of a spill over from quebec.”
This has started generations ago ,and many feel disenchanted with our political system for it.
Generations now have felt the sting of discrimination through government hiring practices,you would be hard pressed to find English person not have a friend ,family or themselves not effected.
Honestly I do not believe it will be confined to legal measures ,there are many people who loose hope and are pushed to their limits .
When these same individuals are basically ignored by their own government people will become increasingly desperate.
It matter not how big you are if you back a desperate animal in the corner it WILL BITE,the same could be said for humans.
Sadly this will only get more violent with more desperation ,i will never condone violence ,but these may be desperate times!
Thank you Stellla for your response. I have to say I am not surprised by your answer. I just wish you would understand the difference between you being bilingual and me and others here who are not. We didn’t have what you had growing up. Both my parents were English, and their parents spoke Gaelic and English. The only French I spoke was in the classroom. I never had the opportunity you had to be educated in the language I understood from birth which is something I regret every day. When it was time for us to make the decision to which program our children would enter, there wasn’t even the slightest discussion. They were going to be given the best opportunity possible to be educated in their mother tongue, which is what French parents want for their children; I completely get that. Surely you understand then why so many here are disgusted by arrogant comments, like the one you keep posting “ it’s a personal decision you should have made” when the decision for you was made when you were born into a bilingual family.
Stella I also wanted to add another statement made by you “He says he can’t find a reasonable job and has the gall to blame it on discrimination……..his french is horrible lol Bilingual is being able to write and speak properly in both languages. When someone claims they are fully bilingual but can’t find work, there is more to it then meets the eye” Yes and “Pierre” whose English grammar was also horrible works for our government.
@peter RE: POST on January 10, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Peter wrote, “I have contacted the CLF and so far there was talk of a parliament hill rally, but no one seems to know when
I am a frim believer, that bilingualism has to go in canada, and I am grateful that this group exists.
I also think that the English are threatened in their culture, if one reads the article by J.V. Andrew, bilingualism today, french tomorrow.
For those of you who have yet to read it, I strongly suggest you do.
Cheers
It is an essential read for all who wnat an English only Canada.”
Hello Peter. It seems you MAY be new. Welcome. If you liked the J.V. Andrews book / article you might find these video’s interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ynXg5psAJM – PART 01b
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvHN_Ucard4 – PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=981IaOhQGvw – The Master plan (conversation)
Watch in full screen mode and enjoy. Feel free to watch any other videos you like and leave a comment if you like…
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Stella, when you say your mother never spoke a word of English, did she live in Cornwall all her life? If so why did she not make the personal decision to learn English. Had she not met your father, do you think she would know English today? just wondering.
Re (any) bilingualism and dementia:
“Exercising and challenging your brain – by learning new skills, doing puzzles such as crosswords, and even learning a new
language – can be fun. Unfortunately, Alzheimer’s Society research has shown that playing brain training games doesn’t
improve your overall mental fitness.”
http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/download_info.php?fileID=1303
@concerned citizen 2 AND EVERYONE RE: POST on January 10, 2013 at 3:34 pm
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concerned citizen wrote, “So, I go to a public school in Cornwall to pick up my child before dismissal, while waiting in the office I observe a small boy(kindergarten) hanging out with the secretary. The principal walks in & asks what is he here for & secretary says, “he doesn’t like french, so he’s hanging out with me”. Seems this little guy is spending many afternoons with secretary only because he doesn’t like french.”
I can say without doubt that concerned citizen is NOT ONE to fabricate stories OF ANY KIND and THUS, THIS CR@P IS indeed REALLY happening in our country/PROVINCE OF ONTARIO CANADA right now in the year two thousand and thirteen.
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This is TOTAL INSANITY and our government seems to have choosen to DO NOTHING in defense of this situation SO, it is up to US to RISE UP MUST and PUT an END TO THIS kind of insanity
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On January 10, 2013 at 3:54 pm peter wrote, “This is not a complicated issue. But the government, for reasons dating back to trudeau, insists on FORCING people to be bilingual.”
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You are absolutely RIGHT Peter and as a result of this “forcing” by the government , IT IS about to become “a complicated issue” for those who are forcing this on the majority English tax payers of this country because we HAVE HAD IT UP TO HERE.
@Ken RE: POST on January 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Great post Ken.
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As for changing schools and moving away to a different province every time French becomes an issue. I already MADE this issue crystal CLEAR… We English are through, done, fini with running away to new schools and new provinces and so on, only to leave the empty void be filled with the French.
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GET THIS STRAIGHT
THE DAYS OF RUNNING AND MOVING ARE DONE. Don’t even bother suggesting it. Ca vas?
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@Rosie
RE: POST on January 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm
I had the same “opportunity” as Stella Rosie but I HAVE CHOSEN NOT to speak French or use French AT ALL. WHy? BEcause it is not necessary in this country for one and secondly, i don’t like being pushed around and TOLD WHAT TO DO BY ANYONE.
AND THAT is the REAL issue and point in all of this.
Not to mention how French is pushed on the English everywhere in Canada but Quebec does the EXACT oppostite and outlaws the damn English language and makes the lives of Candian tax paying citizens living in that province a living hell in that freekin “PROVINCE.” Simply unbelievable
lol@PJ Robertson who invoked Globe and Mail’s article of the supposed benefits of bilingualism at staying off dementia.
Apparently, the good “Dr. Gold fears he has probably lost the protective effect of French because it slipped away from him after he left Montreal in his adolescence. He is instead banking on another positive influence: “My situation is that when I came to the States, I met a Mexican woman. I married her and now I speak Spanish.”
Cory, you are protected from dementia, you are married to a French woman.The rest of us are doomed, unless we go to Mexico or the US and marry Spanish-speaking people.
@ Rosie,
I don’t understand why you would have to defend yourself for not knowing french?
Seems to me, and I am English, that wheather I know french or not , is not the issue here.
As a majority ( English) the onus should be on the french to learn English, if anything. The french in Canada make up about 20%-25% tops, if that.
Again , this is my opinion, but logically, in a democratic society, the majority’s will should be adhered to. Provisions, and policies can be adjusted to accomadate a minority group
This idea that WE HAVE TO LEARN french takes away from freedom of choice, and in no way know way should be IMPOSED OR FORCED on us, especially when it comes to employment
Employment criteria should be based on education, qualifications and job experience, anything else should be secondary, and bilingualism very far down on the list
Peter I agree with you. I did not have my children educated in French for the very reasons you mention. I did not want them to feel the bitterness I feel every day. I didn’t have a choice when I was in school; if you wanted a Catholic education, it was a French education you got. I was not defending myself for not being fluent in French. I wanted Stella to maybe stop and think a bit before posting the smug comments. I used to think it was great that I could speak French but now that I know the real reason the push for French education is on, I don’t want any part of it.
Rosie……Both my parents lived in Ontario and moved to Cornwall after they got married. She never made the personal choice to learn english because my parents owned a business…….I think it is safe to say time wouldn’t allow it. Being my father was english and we lived in an english neighborhood, she learned english very quickly. The bonus there was she was able to communicate with the french speaking people. In other words, they complemented each in that area.
yorlik wrote: It is an essential read for all who wnat an English only Canada…..oh really? Why should Canada be only english?
@ Stella
canada should only be English for a number of reasons,
first and foremost we are THE MAJORITY HERE
secondly, WE AE THE FOUNDING NATION’S LANGUAGE
Thirdly, after 1756, the french were a conquered people, wheather you like this fact or not, it is the historical truth.
Fourthy all of our federal and provinical legislations all are modelled AFTER ENGLAND’S , this includes quebec ironically.
Just because government years AFTER the fact, adopted a policiy of bilingualim, doesn’t mean the majority of the people have to accept and live it (bilingualism) . This is what democracy is about, the freedom to choose.
This is especially true in light of the discriminatory laws of quebec.
If quebec wants to be french only, and not respect English, and feds look the other way, as they have done for some 50 years now, then perhaps quebec, and Ottawa should just be honest about it and have quebec GET OUT OF CANADA.
The charter of rights and freedoms BOTH WAYS.
Its seems Canada has forgotten this , there are 28 million anglos that reside and pay taxes here.
Stella, you must really enjoy apologizing to me. It seems you have done it again. Those words you attribute to me were NOT MINE. I was quoting something Peter said. Please pay attention – a la lecture, nes pas ?
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But, be sure to have a nice day 🙂
peter
January 11, 2013 at 6:46 am
well said:
“Just because government years AFTER the fact, adopted a policiy of bilingualim, doesn’t mean the majority of the people have to accept and live it (bilingualism) . This is what democracy is about, the freedom to choose.”
That is why a referendum is needed -government let the people vote on the need of bilingualism!
Lets be a true democracy and vote on the need of bilingualism.
Democracy is DEAD when a government implements policy THAT MOST OF ITS CITIZENS DO NOT AGREE WITH.
Referendum is needed on bilingualism to allow the people to choose !But not a political party whose voter base it was initiated for.
Lets exercise our democratic right to allow voting on the issue.
stellabystarlight
January 10, 2013 at 5:26 pm
“OMG cc2…..hmmm, for some reason your post doesn’t seem too kosher…..sounds like there may be some omissions. I doubt any school principle would let a child spend a day with the secretary. I also doubt that the secretary would reply the way you said she did.”
OMG Stella have you done the research on it ?Thats right you do not look things up-I guess ignorance is bliss for some.***S***
why would CC2 make that up -as for story telling its your ilk that that excels at that!
“This absurd but systematic conquest is now going into its final stage despite the fact that English is still the language of 96% of Canadians outside sovereign French Quebec.
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But even today, through our gullibility and apathy, we have allowed ourselves to become nonentities in our own country, unwelcome in our own federal government services, and now to become unwelcome in our provincial and municipal government services, in the professions, and on into the entire Canadian job market.
Are we and our children thus to be bulldozed into extinction, or have we had enough of this farce? I and others like me have had more than enough. Will you join us?”
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It’s time to act and stand up for what is fair and right.
Summer 2013 🙂
I personally prefer the phrase, “democracy has been suspended” because, being “dead” means it cannot be revived. But, having been suspended means we CAN revive it and bring it back to life. We can then place it on a healthy track towards what it is supposed to be, a more fair and equitable concept for the people, by the people.
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It is, after all …
OUR government and OUR tax money.