Over the next few weeks while speaking with friends about various issues of the day, pay attention to your comments. Are you saying oh well, it has been going on a long time, what can you do, you can’t fight City Hall or something else that is similar? We have become so accustomed to not doing anything for the greater good we just explain it away, or provide some creative justification to continue doing nothing. Sometimes people feel helpless, it is more work than they have time for right now, they don’t want to get involved, or a favorite, that is somebody else’s job. Really? Caring about what you see around you, doing something about it and wanting a better life for your kids is somebody else’s job? Whose?
Henry Ford once said,” if you think you can do a thing or think you can’t do a thing, you’re right.” At first glance that may be a fence sitter position, however if you use it get yourself motivated, it is a rallying cry. You just need to pay attention and connect a couple of dots along the way to get started. Talking about it with friends, posting in Cornwall Free News and sending an email to a politician are all perfect and expected of citizens in a democratic society. So would be joining a group with similar concerns. We certainly see that with hundreds of Francophone groups, the majority of which are funded by all taxpayers including you.
Something that you may take exception to and want to get involved with is how French services are being guaranteed politically, legally and financially. The Ontario French Language Services Commissioner is on record saying “. A designated agency or program provides its supplier with legal immunity that protects it from changes in the economic and political climate”. As far as I know, Ontario does not have an English only government agency or entity, and if there were, they could be shut down in seconds, unlike these “first class” entities and agencies who signed on to the French Languages Services Act.
I am not saying shut down French services, I am saying fairness to all taxpayers has vanished but paying for it is still up to all taxpayers. Jobs are increasingly bilingual but the numbers of bilingual citizens outside of Quebec has stayed stagnant or dropped. Ontario revoked the fairness is a 2 way street act in 2006 allowing more Quebec residents to find work here, should the Ontario government not help its citizens first before other provinces? Certainly Quebec does! Go ahead, get involved or just say, “if you think you can do a thing or think you can’t do a thing, you’re right.”
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Furtz July 28, 2013 at 1:12 pm
“By all means, work at getting unfair laws and regulations (and there are some) changed, but if you want to be taken seriously, cut out the crap about breaking up Canada.”
Have I advocated for separation ,has LFA?
RICHARD TREMBLEY agrees to segregation so am I to believe that you believe in the same?
stella doesn’t like any cultures but her own ,do you believe in the same?
The majority of Quebecers believe in the philosophy of seperatists as they voted for separatist parties,are they different then Anglophones that wish for Quebec to seperate other then the separatists ethnocentric values?
stellabystarlight July 28, 2013 at 4:56 pm
“Why would English proficiency have to be tested at all? The CCH knows English is spoken by many in Cornwall. Testing for spelling would be sufficient.”
So all the charts and communication is in English not French all the more reasoning to test English more stringently then French.
French services are for the patient and not for charting vital issues.
All patient charts are in English so why wouldn’t testing English not be relevent?
Stella :
“Why would English proficiency have to be tested at all? The CCH knows English is spoken by many in Cornwall. Testing for spelling would be sufficient.”
So Stella you see no need to have English proficiency tested in CCH ?
If all functions outside of potential patient communication is in English ,French is more important then English to test ?
So You have stated before that French communication is key for the health of the patient and safety issues.
Yet with charting and communication English testing is not needed ,when all charting and staff communication is in English?
So in Effect to serve 80 % of Cornwall’s English population it is more important that employee’s be tested in French?
So you are willing to put Both English and French patient’s safety at risk because the staff are not tested in English proficiency at the same level as French as all charting remains in English?
I certainly hope your not hospital management ,but then again hospital management has allowed this!
So hospital Management is willing to forgo patient safety to implement the Ontario language policy and receive that additional funding and economic protection allocated to only those that sign on to the french services language act.
Wow do I feel safe,I guess they must buy protection at the cost of patient safety!
Debbie Cameron
July 28, 2013 at 9:24 pm
“I am not on trial, so I am NOT inclined to answer your on slot of questions.”
Mrs. Cameron, I apologize for having offended you with what I believed to be a legitimate request. As an interested member of the community I had no way of knowing that you would consider my action as a persecution that has caused you view yourself on TRIAL.
My previous experience in dealing with volunteer organizations, have never delivered such a reaction. The groups viewed questions from the public as a positive opportunity to demonstrate their Commitment as volunteer Ambassadors and made their organizations CORE VALUES shine.
So Mrs. Cameron, I hope you’ll understand my confused reaction to your response of my well intended gesture. Other groups that responded to my request never once avoided to answer my questions with with a litany of excuses, nor treat my request as hostile or viewed it as a persecution for asking questions.
If I can make a suggestion that you include a DISCLAIMER on the LFA web site. This would prevent well intended people from this community from wasting your time and preventing you any further anguish in the future.
The litany of excuses that prevent you from being able to perform the minimalist basic task of PUBLIC RELATIONS should be PUBLIC KNOLEDGE.
Executive Committee work full-time & have busy family lives.
NO government handouts, all our work is volunteerism.
We do the best we can with the little resources available to us.
Chris & I our young family comes first…
I am not on trial, so I am NOT inclined to answer your on slot of questions.
If you show any incline of not supporting LFA we will treat you as hostile.
Cory asked “Why has not a single director of any of these facilities that LFA has picketed ever approached LFA leaders and questioned them about their legitimate concerns?”
Possibly some of the above excuses and lack of seriousness are preventing the “DIRECTORS” from acknowledging that this group is indeed well structured and organized with a sensible Agenda. All evidence and attitudes seem to lead to the contrary.
Once again Mrs. Cameron, please accept my apology for not understanding that your first commitment as an Volunteer Ambassador is not responding to questions from community
“ A volunteer is someone who gives of their time FREELY and by CHOICE, to help others in a responsible, committed and dignified way.”
Hungry for the Truth….
July 29, 2013 at 11:28 am
“My previous experience in dealing with volunteer organizations, have never delivered such a reaction.”
LFA’s experience was to have French activists disrupt our meeting’s a fine example was Jean Lecompte . Mr.Jean Lecompte known as (Mr.Bilingualism )who stated to the media that if CPR was required for him, that person had to be french …..so much for bilingualism. (funny how those intentions of french inclusion are not really what transpires)
“Mrs. Cameron, I hope you’ll understand my confused reaction to your response of my well intended gesture. Other groups that responded to my request never once avoided to answer my questions with with a litany of excuses, nor treat my request as hostile or viewed it as a persecution for asking questions.”
So does your volunteer groups willing to field questions on a media site with an anonymous posters?
“Possibly some of the above excuses and lack of seriousness are preventing the “DIRECTORS” from acknowledging that this group is indeed well structured and organized with a sensible Agenda. All evidence and attitudes seem to lead to the contrary.”
This is a fine example why … your intent of belittlement of a group or individuals!-have you been to the board meeting to see agenda’s or the organizational structure …NO… but you feel inclined to belittle members and the group.Its easy to criticize what you do not know!
Well not so balanced for the truth she is not there to answer your already biased views she simply put forth her statement …it is you that’s being hostile as well as biased .
Still waiting for that American Hospital linguistics services info ……
You said you would research that right away a number of days ago …
Is the truth for you too inconvenient…
I think “lives for lies “was better suited for your personality because hungry your are not THAT TRUTH.
Still waiting…..
FOR HFTT………DRUM ROLL!!!!!
Take a bow HFTT……..well deserved STANDING OVATION.
The only concern I have is whether they understand your message.
They need to grow up in order to be taken seriously. Picketing, bitching, pamphlets, a website and numbers just don’t cut it.
I have never been to their website nor do I plan on going, waste of time and the same old BS..
highlander wrote: So does your volunteer groups willing to field questions on a media site with an anonymous posters?
Why wouldn’t a group answer questions from an anonymous poster? What is wrong in answering legitimate questions on a media site? Should it not be part of the group’s mandates be to respond to inquiries?
Organizations that want to be taken seriously act in a professional manner……
Highlander & ALL
July 29, 2013 at 1:47 pm
My previous experience in dealing with volunteer organizations, have never delivered such a reaction….HftT
“LFA’s experience was to have French activists disrupt our meeting’s a fine example was Jean Lecompte . Mr.Jean Lecompte known as (Mr.Bilingualism )who stated to the media that if CPR was required for him, that person had to be french …..so much for bilingualism. (funny how those intentions of french inclusion are not really what transpires)”
What does any of this have to do with my previous dealings with volunteer groups and their professional responses.
Mrs. Cameron, I hope you’ll understand my confused reaction to your response of my well intended gesture. Other groups that responded to my request never once avoided to answer my questions with with a litany of excuses, nor treat my request as hostile or viewed it as a persecution for asking questions…. HftT
“So does your volunteer groups willing to field questions on a media site with an anonymous posters?”
Last time I checked you are posting utilizing HIGHLANDER as your moniker? And the fact that I am Hungry for the Truth as my moniker was knowledge to you when you readily answered my questioned addressed to Mrs Cameron. And furthermore Mrs. Cameron herself does not seem to have a problem with monikers as she very willing answered me to let me know that she was not on trial.
Possibly some of the above excuses and lack of seriousness are preventing the “DIRECTORS” from acknowledging that this group is indeed well structured and organized with a sensible Agenda. All evidence and attitudes seem to lead to the contrary. HtfT
“This is a fine example why … your intent of belittlement of a group or individuals!-have you been to the board meeting to see
agenda’s or the organizational structure …NO… but you feel inclined to belittle members and the group.Its easy to criticize what you do not know!”
This is not an attempt at belittlement of any group or individuals. The expression of my opinion is not fabricated, but rest on sound knowledge of Board of director governed groups. I do not have to attend a meeting to understand an Agenda that is already Public knowledge. As for the organizational structure is has been made clear that this is not the EXECUTIVE MEMBERS priority. This is not to say that dis-functionality and chaos are not indeed in themselves organizational structures.
“Well not so balanced for the truth she is not there to answer your already biased views she simply put forth her statement …it is you that’s being hostile as well as biased .”
Well Highlander looking up your skirt, you take it upon yourself to decide that my views are in fact in your opinion bias and hostile. This only further confirms the need to consider a DISCLAIMER as I posted you are living proof of it’s existence.
“If you show any incline of not supporting LFA we will treat you
or call you hostile.”
“I think “lives for lies “was better suited for your personality because hungry your are not THAT TRUTH.”
Did you not, just accuse me that in your view I was attempting to belittle individuals. How would classify your above comments.
And in closing remember that it is noble of you to defend
what never should need defending in a serious organization.
I did not whine and cry and attempt to grand stand by using
poor little old us excuses. If one does not have the time and fells that other things prioritizes their life, they should get out of the kitchen. Quit taking every thing that one expresses as an efforts to inflict personal deprivation or persecution.
Not allot will stand, applaud and support a group that stands for
the intentional division of a country in the name of language fairness.
But I still believe that the Hiring Practises in Public Institutions
are faulted. They can be fixed without such a radical agenda.
stella by not going to the language website you missed out on the 40 dollar off coupon for the any restaurant reviewed on CFN…….LOL.
HFTT, 2 things. 1. From the wording used by Highlander, I get the impression the writer is male. 2. I also believe what you said “I still believe that the Hiring Practices in Public Institutions
are faulted.”
Perhaps we can all work on the second one.
How can anyone be faulted for suggesting a break up of Canada? Quebec has working on it for decades. They have their own immigration, pension, official language that is barely used in the ROC and trade missions (read embassies) already.
Eric………I am not that desperate. I would rather do without the coupon and pay my meal then to waste my time reading the BS.
@ Stella
So when an organization decides to take a stand that they believe in, you characterize it as B.S., because you do not agree with their position, yet people are to believe you to be fair ,just and open minded.
I see.
You know stella, i disagree with 99% + of what you say. But I’ll defend your right to say it to the death.
So, I ask, why then do you insult people who are standing for the very things you claim to respect. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly ,freedom of choice ?????
When you characterize Canadians for language fairness, as B.S., to me, that reflects your insecurity in your views ,evidenced by your total lack of substansciation of fact.
It also says you feel threatened by the truth.
NPC…..So, I ask, why then do you insult people who are standing for the very things you claim to respect. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly ,freedom of choice ?????
Nothing wrong with standing up for what one believes in….absolutely not. It takes special people to do just that, however, if one’s mandate is to correct a wrong, JUST DO IT.
It’s the governing parties they should be attacking, not the French people of this country.
Eric
July 30, 2013 at 6:41 am
“How can anyone be faulted for suggesting a break up of Canada? Quebec has working on it for decades. They have their own immigration, pension, official language that is barely used in the ROC and trade missions (read embassies) already.”
Eric, I do not fault anyone for believing and voicing what they stand for. What I question and have for some time now is how are all these comments and opinions about the perception that Quebec’s laws are allegedly unfair, contributing constructively in helping the objective of making Hiring practices in our community more equitable?
It’s not the laws in Quebec that are hindering access to non bilingual candidates. If not for the unfair hiring practices they that CCH have implemented the non bilingual candidates would otherwise qualified nursing Staff.
Do we need to reopen the Constitution and have Quebec separate to achieve this?
It seems to me, to be a long way to travel to improve a local issue.
Here here Highlander. Nice come back.
Highlander responded… “Well, not so balanced for the truth, she is not there to answer your already biased views she simply put forth her statement …it is you that’s being hostile as well as biased.”
It is VERY obvious that despite the feigned apologetic statements that drip with pure condescension like,
HftT wrote, “Mrs. Cameron, I apologize for having offended you with what I believed to be a legitimate request.”
AND
HftT wrote, “Mrs. Cameron, I hope you’ll understand my confused reaction to your response of my well intended gesture.”
HftT is clearly NOT REALLY honestly sympathetic to, or seriously interested in the plight of the English people in this country.
Highlander wrote, “I think “lives for lies “was better suited for your personality because hungry your are not THAT TRUTH.”
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree.
PS
@Hfft Please be kind and don’t egg on those that have no life and too much time on their hands with too much of your long winded beat around the bush posts that in the end really8 don’t convey any real informative or useful information at all.
As you can see here in the “money/praise” shot
“ON July 29, 2013 at 1:55 pm stellabystarlight
FOR HFTT………DRUM ROLL!!!!!
Take a bow HFTT……..well deserved STANDING OVATION.”
you may cause *s* to get overexcited and fall off her high chair and spill her formula.
Ah but,
still the same, I wish you a nice adulating day eh 🙂
Hungry for the Truth….
July 30, 2013 at 10:04 am
“Do we need to reopen the Constitution and have Quebec separate to achieve this?
It seems to me, to be a long way to travel to improve a local issue.”
YES WE DO NEED TO OPEN THE CONSTITUTION as its not only a local issue but a country wide issue .
Cornwall is just a symptom of a much greater problem ask NewBrunswickers ,Quebecers ,now PEI as well as Ontarians and other provinces as well.
Open the Constitution and bring about fairness once and for ALL.
Welcome to Canada’s Reality.
edudyorlik
July 30, 2013 at 11:26 am
It is VERY obvious that despite the feigned apologetic statements that drip with pure condescension like,
HftT wrote, “Mrs. Cameron, I apologize for having offended you with what I believed to be a legitimate request.”
AND
HftT wrote, “Mrs. Cameron, I hope you’ll understand my confused reaction to your response of my well intended gesture.”
Oh so very well pointed out edudyorlik
This poster has made a point and habit of doing this to make it appear that one is genuinely apologetic and yet reaffirms their statement .
Im sorry I slapped you but I was right in doing so!
Yup we see it!
Welcome to reality! Wake up Canadians
Highlander
July 30, 2013 at 3:57 pm
“Cornwall is just a symptom of a much greater problem ask
NewBrunswickers ,Quebecers ,now PEI as well as Ontarians
and other provinces as well.”
If your action plan require a Constitutional Referendum
to achieve your proposed Mission Statement objective
OMG… it took 85 years to reach unanimous consent with
the provinces in 1982.
Wake up people where are not about
to see any concrete developments any
time soon from this all this CHANTING!
WOW is any one else reading this.
Come on this is not a realistic achievable solution.
Wake up people….move on, not much is going to
happen here anytime soon except for the Propagandists
kilroy blowing another gasket.
yorlik…..HFTT is highly intelligent and well versed. He has stumped you guys many many times.
When that happens your only response is to attack, to ridicule and denigrate the messenger. I guess when in desperation and lacking an intelligent rebuttal one has to resort to those tactics to try and save face……..but they don’t help your cause.
@ Hungry for the Truth.
HftT wrote, “Wake up people….move on, not much is going to
happen here anytime soon except for the Propagandists
kilroy blowing another gasket.”
Ah yes, the familiar “attack” what you fear. Yeah, that’s a great solution Hungry. After all, it is indeed a common thing to do.
I guess i can accept it. I understand. It’s OK.
Hungry for the Truth AKA (Live for lies) Wrote,
“Wake up people where are not about to see any concrete developments any time soon from this all this CHANTING!”
Humm i think i read that somewhere before… hummm
Where was that.. ?
Ah yes, got it, I am pretty sure it was Moammar Kadafi last tweet. 😉
Be sure to have a nice revolutionary day eh 🙂
@ stella
can you site where any attacks on french people were made ??
By whom??
Can you please please furnish the exact quotes??
I have never seen this on CFN, it would not be tolerated and rightly so.
@ highlander, Edudyorlik, Cory and Eric
Great great posts. Your logic, substanciation of fact and articulation and well presented arguments are right on point.
To deal, as previously stated with bias, half truths and manipulative dialogue of HFTT, stella, trembly and the like, would frustrate many people. Whuch is their goal.
However, you guys handle their nonsense with fact, accurate stats and class
Many thanks and bravo
HFTT, Quebec has been evolving towards it’s own country and may not be the direct cause of language problems in the rest of Canada. However, federally, we have seen the Charter of Rights and Suggestions using a ram rod to further French across the country.
Provincial governments have gone the appeasement method where tough love was needed, so we see more policy, laws, and acts put in place designed to only help a few at the expense of many. There are only a few that push this plus the go maximum frenchifcation liberals.
The general feeling of the Charter ( which by the way Quebec never formally approved but uses parts of it for advantage so there was no unanimous consent) is looked at differently between Quebec and ROC leading to this appeasement.
Love the last tweet comment posted above…….
stellabystarlight July 30, 2013 at 9:55 am
Sure, it is not all French people who are the problem, some of the best people in the world are right here in eastern Ontario, and I am fortunate to have grown up and share space with them and proud to say friends.
But if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. The solution is for government to get out of the language business that overly promotes one language only. All levels of governments employs or funds thousands directly and indirectly, I imagine that money could be spent on health, seniors and my pension plan haha.
Countries everywhere have people who do, lead, follow or get out of the way, we need more of the first 3.
NPC….just a quickie for now. I have a busy schedule this am.
You ask where the attacks were made….right on this site sweetheart, by your buddies highlander, yorlik, peter……to name just a few. I could go on for hours but I must go.
stellabystarlight
July 30, 2013 at 5:27 pm
yorlik…..HFTT is highly intelligent and well versed. He has stumped you guys many many times.
Oh look (Lives for lies ) has a cheerleader …..wasn’t shew a cheerleader for swiss miss who was proven to be very Rac*** and ethnocentric.
This cheerleader does back the ponies that are ethnocentric .
Highly intelligent and well versed cough …cough… cough …
PROVE IT ! PROVIDE THE DATA OF AMERICAN HOSPITALS AND IF THEY PROVIDE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE SERVICES ,,,HAVE BEEN WAITING OVER A WEEK NOW……STILL WAITING……..
Hey Stella even so called “highly intelligent” people admit to wrong when evidence is brought to bare that has proven themselves to be wrong ,but if pride gets in that way there is no hope to be “highly intelligent” but just to remain biased and remain closed minded.
Still waiting for that American Hospital language services info……..
edudyorlik
Hungry for the Truth AKA (Live for lies) Wrote,
“Wake up people where are not about to see any concrete developments any time soon from this all this CHANTING!”
Humm i think i read that somewhere before… hummm
Where was that.. ?
Ah yes, got it, I am pretty sure it was Moammar Kadafi last tweet. 😉
Be sure to have a nice revolutionary day eh 🙂
Oh that was funny ,
Oh poor Moammar he was misunderstood just like Stella and lives for lies .lol.lol
(its not going to change anything),(its not going to change anything),(its not going to change anything),(its not going to change anything)
KEEP REPEATING ….(its not going to change anything)
Say it often enough stella and lives for lies you may even believe your own propaganda.
NPC
July 30, 2013 at 9:43 pm
“However, you guys handle their nonsense with fact, accurate stats and class
Many thanks and bravo”
Thanks NPC:
But I am not about to TOUT TOUT TOUT my own horn as this would just show arrogance and give an attempt at making myself look elite among the viewers and posters like yourself .
I am plain common folk and do not have any form of superiority complex that OTHERS may have!
“To deal, as previously stated with bias, half truths and manipulative dialogue of HFTT, stella, trembly and the like, would frustrate many people. Whuch is their goal.”
Very well said NPC !
Some due to arrogance ,assume viewers as to not be that smart and post information as you stated above and expect those viewers to believe it !
Sad to assume this!
Stella has certainly in over 2 years proven what type of character she is and this reflects upon as well as the company she keeps on line(CFN).
VERY WELL SAID Eric.
“But if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.”
And this remove the ability for ANYONE to continue to use the lamest excuse EVER, — well it’s just a few radicals —
I seem to remember another phrase by GB
“If you not with us, then your with the terrorist.” which i believe was misused and abused but has the same connotation.
@ Stella
As usual you give no specifics ,just generalities. names are nice, but what exactly did each say and in what context were their statements made.
Please , ANSWER the question, do not generalize. What was said and in response or relation to what topic, or issue that was under discussion
Highlander July 31, 2013 at 8:34 am
“Oh look (Lives for lies ) has a cheerleader …..wasn’t shew a cheerleader for swiss miss who was proven to be very Rac*** and ethnocentric.”
Highlander, I do not know who this swiss miss is. What’s becoming apparent to me with your insistence is how she must of been a thorn in your crafty posts. I take it she didn’t agree with you.
I wonder what the readers that are not involved in this debate conclude when they read your posts. I wonder what question it leaves them with when they read this constant use of your school yard antic of BULLYING and BELITTLING an INSULTING other posters comments.
Your attempts at PERSONAL CHARACTOR ASSASINATION speaks volumes.
Debate with facts, information, opinions and views,
but please quit this DISPICABLE CHILDISH BEHAVIOUR.
It doesn’t do you justice, it insults your own intelligence.
NPC….go back and read the posts from 2011 **smile**
Of course the topic was language which has been ongoing for 3 yrs now.
Now, I do not want to be nasty, nasty is not nice **smile** but I am definitely not going to rehash everything that was directed to the French nor am I willing to scroll all the posts in order to prove my point. Perhaps when you have the time you can do it.
You are fairly new here, unless you changed your moniker that is. Had you been around longer you would know exactly what I mean and there would be no need to prove anything……
I am not a happy camper today.
I went to the post office to buy stamps which I asked for in English. The postal worker asked me in French : “un livret ou juste un timbre” (a book or just one stamp) I said a book.
After the sale, I told her in English that English is the majority in this country and that when she is spoken to in English she must reply in English and that by responding in French, she had violated my rights. I also told her that 80% of the time I speak French, come from a French family etc etc. and even though I am bilingual and understand French she should respect my English rights.
At that point, she begged me not to write to the Language Commissioner…..I am giving it some serious thought
Sounds pretty silly doesn’t it……but hey, my rights were violates **smile**
highlander once posted: Because one has some form of education, doesn’t mean they are smart.
By highlanders constants putdowns, bashing and personal attacks he is proving to all he is right.
Finally he has spoken the truth and proved it.
stellabystarlight
July 31, 2013 at 1:12 pm
“Now, I do not want to be nasty, nasty is not nice **smile** but I am definitely not going to rehash everything that was directed to the French nor am I willing to scroll all the posts in order to prove my point. Perhaps when you have the time you can do it.”
If you didn’t want to rehash it ,why did you bring the subject up at all .
You make a statement yet to tell the others to look it up rather then YOU backing up your own statement .
Evasive once again -Oh that’s right you did admit to never ever look things up on a number of occasions!
Hungry for the Truth….
July 31, 2013 at 1:00 pm
“Your attempts at PERSONAL CHARACTOR ASSASINATION speaks volumes.”
No character assassination just character clarifying !Were you here over a year ago to witness stella admit she didn’t like other cultures and felt uncomfortable around them in New York City?(and she claims to be involved in human resources -OMG do you think biased)
Were you here to witness her call Chris Cameron the KKK,were you here to witness many verbal onslaughts ?
I am here to provide insight to those that have yet to understand the characters involved .
Richard trembley ardent fighter for french rights believes in segregation and has admitted to this numerous times -where is this inclusion for what bilingualism is to bring about ?
I will repeat what Stella has said:
You are fairly new here, unless you changed your moniker that is. Had you been around longer you would know exactly what I mean and there would be no need to prove anything……
Oh by the way lives for lies where is that American Hospital data on language services provided which you said your inquisitive mind would research …….its been a week now .
TRUE Hungry for the truth people want to know!
@Claire de Lune
I had some time to kill and I knew that you had a busy AM.
So I took it upon myself to provide for you some example that
NPC asked you for. I hope you don’t mind?
NPC July 30, 2013 at 9:38 pm
@stella
can you site where any attacks on french people were made ??
By whom??
Highlander
July 10, 2013 at 8:01 pm“
Lie, twist ,turn and warp that information to suit your agenda .What little respect I had is no longer there you are as racists as your brethren Stella.”
Highlander
July 11, 2013 at 5:08 pm
@stellabystarlight
July 11, 2013 at 9:36 am
Did you seek the help you need ,serious not condescending …the first thing to address is excepting you have the problem.
You have a pathological as well as a habitual problem with lying ,you forget the lie ,then lie to forget then contradict with a lie.
You are truly a mess and need serious help ….and you work for the government?
I guess the government isn’t all that picky as long as you are bilingual…..the government will pay your time off as you seek the help you need.
edudyorlik July 12, 2013 at 1:57 am
And, to be honest, I would certainly not be too proud of the position you find yourself in even though it is ever so slightly above them on the scale. Now, if truth be told, the only reason for you being that slight notch above them is because there is some semblance of “POSSIBLE” intelligence in your posts which unfortunately is hidden behind your seemingly incessant need to taunt which is NOT really in keeping with your “hunger for the truth” pseudonym.
Ah but, we get it. We’re used to that. It’s called DOUBLESPEAK
edudyorlik July 12, 2013 at 9:36 am
On the concept of a bus load of people from NEW BRUNSWICK, CANADA NOT knowing the common language of this country.
I find simply astounding is that there ARE in fact people born in, and having grown up in Canada who CANNOT speak the common language of the this country.
The brainwashing done by the “French fact” in this country seems to have worked very well over the years.
Highlander
July 13, 2013 at 7:55 am
You have indeed slipped down below the lowest of the low. You are now a notch down below even ***S***
Congratulations. Good on you. I can tell you that kind of feat is definitely NOT EASY to accomplish BUT YOU have done it.
Highlander July 31, 2013 at 9:04 am
Oh look (Lives for lies ) has a cheerleader …..wasn’t shew a cheerleader for swiss miss who was proven to be very Rac*** and ethnocentric.
This cheerleader does back the ponies that are ethnocentric
Stella has certainly in over 2 years proven what type of character she is and this reflects upon as well as the company she keeps on line(CFN).
“To deal, as previously stated with bias, half truths and manipulative dialogue of HFTT, stella, trembly and the like, would frustrate many people. Whuch is their goal.”
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Before you get yourself all knotted up, I will say that the word FRENCH does not appear in these statements. They are nonetheless directed a those that are perceived by the authors to be French/ bilingualism equal rights defenders in this forum.
And if these do not provide you with sufficient evidentiary examples than I suggest you do as I have. Visit the thousands of comments posted over time by these individuals. It’s very informative. In this forum they are not subject to impunity. They are justified by their users. Which comments such as these , in my opinion lacks the presence of any intelligent factual defence. The words defamatory, derogative, belittling, bullying and degrading comes to mind as I read. In the name of Language Fairness what’s not allowed to make a point…?
How about human respect to an opposing view.
stellabystarlight, I will admit that the way you write it, it is pretty silly.
Bilingualism is an amazing concept that some would think should be easier for the country to communicate and get along. Well, the country is much larger than some European countries boasting use of a couple of languages making this unworkable in its present form, forcing bilingualism on the majority is wrong headed, expensive and it has transcended into some kind of a political game to be used.
The 43 year experiment has done what for the country? Just what are we trying to do?
HFTT……Highlander as usual is lying AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Let me explain in a nutshell HFTT. I was asked to do a special assignment for 6 months in NYC. When I was in a store one day, everyone was talking different languages not a word of English. I felt strange and uncomfortable because I did not understand.
Since then, he keeps telling the world I am prejudiced and don’t like other cultures……LOL Whatever highlander……this guy needs help.
Highlander July 31, 2013 at 2:55 pm
No….NO…. NO…to all of your questions I was not a participant.
But I’ve been hanging around for while like thousands of others
each week do. They read but don’t participate. Before I started posting and chose to become a participant in this debate I took it upon myself to read most of the available previously posted comments on the subject.
And allot of your EXTRAPOLATIONS out of contextual and factual
events are your words and interpretations. Which over time has become your discernible trade mark. Your ability and craftiness at reformulating out of context what someone never said with your inferences and questioning suggestions is a remarkable gift.
You have the right to disagree with my observations and opinions, but they will still remain my impressions until I see otherwise that would lead me to conclude differently.
If you want more voracity to your accusations that she in fact said these things then post the actual contextual comments.
Highlander July 31, 2013 at 2:55 pm
“You are fairly new here, unless you changed your moniker that is. Had you been around longer you would know exactly what I mean and there would be no need to prove anything…”
Attempting to prove your point by reverting to insults and the rest of the derogation, does not advance your position. And I never changed my moniker as I stated in my previous post I’ve been a observer long before an active participant.
I may not have seniority as an active participate but an observer more than you assumed. If I had known that the posters in this debate valued an active seniority measuring program, I would have made it clear in my first post 3 weeks ago. I would have clearly stated that in fact I’ve been around for a while now.
@ Highlander. Where’s your friend Jurgen? I want to know where to find those $125,000 fleur-de-lys flags in Ottawa. He seems to have disappeared for now. Do you know where these flags are? I’m gonna be in Ottawa on Friday, and I really want to see them.
stellabystarlight
July 31, 2013 at 1:38 pm
Sounds pretty silly doesn’t it……but hey, my rights were violates **smile**
Yes it does sound pretty silly …..but great propaganda anyways!
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Jamie, why would you post this comment?
“stellabystarlight July 31, 2013 at 1:38 pm
I am not a happy camper today.
I went to the post office to buy stamps which I asked for in English. The postal worker asked me in French : “un livret ou juste un timbre” (a book or just one stamp) I said a book.
After the sale, I told her in English that English is the majority in this country and that when she is spoken to in English she must reply in English and that by responding in French, she had violated my rights. I also told her that 80% of the time I speak French, come from a French family etc etc. and even though I am bilingual and understand French she should respect my English rights.
At that point, she begged me not to write to the Language Commissioner…..I am giving it some serious thought
Sounds pretty silly doesn’t it……but hey, my rights were violates **smile**”
Okay. So everyone can see that this is obviously a direct attempt to make fun of my very personal issue about what happened to me at the Post Office. I think everyone can see that Stella has once again belittled a very personal issue for me that I have endured over these last few months and wrote a LTE about.
The question is twofold:
1) Jamie, why would you have posted this knowing very well that this person is nothing but an instigator of sorts. I guess I could see how you could continously give her enough rope in which to publicly hang herself. But this is a bit much.
2) What good could have possibly come about from this latest comment posted by Stella?
You see NPC, this is the exact sort of instigation that Eric, Highlander, edudyorlik and others are discussing. The other side has posted these types of things continously for the past 3 years, now.
However, Stella is absolutely correct in here assertion that she’s been called all kinds of names. I freely admit to readers of this forum that after having experienced months of these types of postings from her and others I engaged in name calling as well. This was my first mistake though. I should have known that comments generated (such as the one above from her) and others from that side were adding nothing to the issue at hand and were done for no other reason but to instigate a negative response from the likes of us social activists speaking out against unfair hiring practices.
But alas, I’ll say no more nor will I engage in another name calling session which is what Stella and company thrive on. I’ll leave readers to ponder her latest comment…
Cory
A video by my friend Kevin in honor of our comrades in New Brunswick who are facing language oppression & discrimination too;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS59JcH8AnI&feature=youtu.be
Check out this video by EDUDYORLIK, the problem with our country is due to Liberalism…Consider this fair warning if you even consider voting Liberal next Federal Election, JT is a separatist in sheep’s clothing!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS59JcH8AnI&feature=youtu.be
cory…..calling me a dipshit among other things is alright by your standards?
My question is twofold:
Why was calling me a dipshit posted?
Why is it alright for you to call me names (some very wicked ones at that) and I can’t share what happened to me?
FYI I did go to the PO and yes I was addressed in French.
Oh Cory. I completely understand the pain you are suffering. In all seriousness, have you considered moving away from northern and eastern Ontario to a place where you wouldn’t have to put up with abuse? I know that if I was miserable having to share my world with Francophones (or any other “different” people) I’d move to a place like Brockville where you could forget your phobia and get on with life. Seriously, there are hundreds of Canadian towns and even some cities where there is very little chance of hearing French being spoken, or worse, being spoken to in French.
Hungry for the Truth….said
July 31, 2013 at 2:59 pm
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“@Claire de Lune
I had some time to kill and I knew that you had a busy AM.”
Really hftt you had time to kill, so why pray tell did you not do the research you promised Highlander regarding American Hospital language services….
STILL WAITING, THE CLOCK IS TICKING…
TICK, TOCK, TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK…..
While once again demonstrating a COMPLETE lack of compassion towards fellow Canadians and lack of understanding of the difference between a province and a country, a regional language and a language which is — THE COMMON LANGUAGE of Canada –
Stella has –
— shown a great deal of insensitivity and gall in mocking the situation and Cory the LTE writer with her following mocking style post…
July 31, 2013 at 1:38 pm Stellabystarlight wrote,
“ I am not a happy camper today.
I went to the post office to buy stamps which I asked for in English. The postal worker asked me in French : “un livret ou juste un timbre” (a book or just one stamp) I said a book.
After the sale, I told her in English that English is the majority in this country and that when she is spoken to in English she must reply in English and that by responding in French, she had violated my rights. I also told her that 80% of the time I speak French, come from a French family etc etc. and even though I am bilingual and understand French she should respect my English rights.
At that point, she begged me not to write to the Language Commissioner…..I am giving it some serious thought ”
This post was capped this with …
“Sounds pretty silly doesn’t it……but hey, my rights were violates **smile**”
No Stella, — the ACTUAL SITUATION DOES NOT SOUND SILLY AT ALL. – It’s only your mocking of it that sounds silly.
And in mocking this while saying what you have said clearly brings to light that ACTUAL REAL problem that exists in this country.
You see, the actual woman in the LTE story was acting in a way that many of us are seeing and dealing with more and more in this country called Canada (not Quebec, and NOT France, and NOT whatever you French people decide this place is) no, Canada. A country that, whether you like it or not or try to twist it into whatever or not, has ENGLISH as the common language.
You know, like Quebec has French as the common language even though it’s NOT a country 😉
The sooner you and all your “we are better than you” French pals catch on to this, the better.
The English have had it with your new form of “quiet French revolution” which has been rearing it’s ugly revisionist, undemocratic, narrow minded, ethnocentric head outside the walls of the “STATE OF QUEBEC” lately.
We won’t accept the idea that you refuse to speak English even though you can just so you claim whatever you believe Canada outside Quebec should be. Matter of fact, since Quebec is “STILL PART OF THIS COUNTRY” and the common language OF THE COUNTRY is English people in Quebec SHOULD also know the common language of the country they are in. Especially service people like ambulance attendants and buss drivers etc.
Why, won’t we accept this any longer?
Well, because … If you wish to whine as you use the phrase — “Canada is a * bilingual country* ” – while demanding bilingual service throughout ALL of Canada you need to be aware of a very important FACT.
And that is, when you use the term a “bi” lingual – COUNTRY — ” that entails the idea that ALL the PART’S “of a country” are included in the term COUNTRY.
And guess what? Quebec is “supposed to be” one of those parts.
If they/you don’t want to be, then fine. That is something that can be arranged. But, the term, “bi-lingual country” as a valid term in your demand for service should no longer be used until either ALL parts of the country are indeed bilingual or agree to be bilingual. OR, the part that doesn’t wish to be (Quebec) is no longer part of the country.
If anyone wishes to whimper out that common refrain then the logic HAS TO WORK BOTH WAYS.
Now, I can, with much certainty tell you that we get it, we all understand the idea of not wanting the French language to disappear BUT, the idea of giving royal ascent – oop’s that’s too British, too victorious clanish, too closely associated with the “oppressors” – i mean to say, “GOD” like status to French over and above ALL OTHER LANGUAGES it is simply not acceptable, both inside and outside of Quebec (but especially outside of Quebec.)
In closing there is only one thing to say to you and Furts and all the rest of ya’s
And that is…
“I wonder what the readers that are not involved in this debate conclude when they read your posts. I wonder what question it leaves them with when they read this constant use of your school yard antic of BULLYING and BELITTLING an INSULTING other posters comments.
Your attempts at PERSONAL CHARACTOR ASSASINATION speaks volumes.
Debate with facts, information, opinions and views,
but please quit this DISPICABLE CHILDISH BEHAVIOUR.
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Sorry, i couldn’t bring myself to leaving in the last line as it was too beyond any sense of reality to honestly be left in. For those who are interested you can scroll back to the end of this post by Hungry for the Truth…. July 31, 2013 at 1:00 pm to see it.
PS: In order to “play” this little charade I have hesitantly put aside for the moment the HISTORICAL FACT which many French don’t acknowledge and actually seem to be wanting to forget, which is the fact that a battle was won and this land was ceded >>> to the British/English >>> by France, DONE DEAL. Thus this issue most definitely should NOT be an issue at all.
So, have a happy common language of “your” country kind of day 🙂
PPS: Furtz: Were DONE MOVING to accommodate.
HFTT……Merci…….much appreciated!!!!
Eric…..HFTT, Furtz, myself and many others who have left because of the putdowns and personal attacks have stated many times do what you have to do. It was also suggested you approach the the elected officials.
HFTT and Furtz went as far as saying they agreed that there was in fact discrimination. I, on the other hand felt it had never been proven locally.
HFTT went as far as asking, how as a group could we find solutions to this issue. So Eric, what more do you want from
us?
@cory….. I freely admit to readers of this forum that after having experienced months of these types of postings from her and others I engaged in name calling as well.
Good attempt at a cover up…..when I was called a dipshit was 2 years ago if not more…..so no, your name calling did not happen just recently.
Cory Cameron
July 31, 2013 at 5:48 pm
Cory your point was well made !
What was the point of fabrication? Well of course when propaganda is involved there is no limit from this group.
That was a fine example of instigation and provocateur,but it once again shows your character to those viewers on here and proven oh so well it wasn’t about character assassination but character clarity I spoke of.
A Character that dislikes other cultures and feels uncomfortable around them and protects her culture through instigation and provocation meanwhile insulting those that are not of her culture.
Hey folks read this carefully from stella on Chris Cameron’s LTE
Here’s another Character clarity moment:
stellabystarlight
july30,2013at 2:38
“Eventually we will be the minority in our own country whether we like it or not.”
FOLKS SADLY THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT SHE HAS WRITTEN THAT STATEMENT ,I HAVE LOST TRACK JUST HOW MANY TIMES ITS BEEN.
Talk about character building !
She considers herself a representative of Francophones culture yet what happened to this inclusiveness that Francophones request.
REALITY WAKE UP ……COFFEE IS WAITING ….RUB THE SANDMAN FROM YOUR EYES.