CFN-Earlier today members of the local Language Fairness for All – LFA group were joined by members of the Ottawa area Canadians for Language Fairness – CLF umbrella group in front of Cornwall’s taxpayer-funded French-only medical clinic.
In late May the groups converged in Chesterville, catching James Moore, Minister of Canadian Heritage and Official Languages, quite off-guard. We covered that story. That day some members carried a makeshift coffin decrying the (near) death of democracy in Canada. Today they were sporting a cardboard bus and shouting: “Back of the bus, English; know your place.” The groups are drawing attention to the apparent lack of fairness in current language laws, their interpretation and heavy public funding of minority language groups outside of the province of Quebec. Today, they were specifically pointing out the disparity in funding and access to service, whereby hospitals and clinics are being pushed to be 100% bilingual or French-only, while English-only is no longer an option.
In our video clip you’ll see and hear their demonstration as well as hear from some participants, including a few newcomers.
Stella and les habitants you are so far out in left field. Do you really think that every employee at the hospital knows what the other is doing. You people are fools.
Le Renard bleu………j’aurais jamais penser a ca……LOL C’est plaisant de te revoir…..**s**
Wait to go rozie, calling people fools really ups your credibility. Discrimination .. how were they discriminated against ? They aren’t being hired because they don’t have the qualifications for the job. Thats not discrimination thats basic logic… out of 100 patients, if a nurse or frontline worker can’t serve 30…thats alot of people.
I encourage you to read Kaedes point on bilingual positions…very few are bilingual positions. Its just basic rights..bilingualism has more good then bad. Think of this…if a 6 year old can get by speaking french and being semi fluent in english…so can you.. maybe we need a new tv show in eastern ontario… are you smarter then a 6 year old… oh wait thats a little mean. not my style i take it back.
What purpose does the lfa have ? truthfully. Defend the rights of 76 percent of the population. What a joke ? Beth Trudeau has said on facebook posts that she is bilingual BUT she choses not to speak french… Wait to go beth. HAve you gone to L’Écho d’un peuple Beth ? Money well spent. A superb show, that gives a complete overview of the struggles of franco ontarians … You talk about waste…talk about how howard galganov has been wasting the courts time and money…i just wonder how much money howard has reimbursed…howard has defended minorities in Québec…and is trying to eliminate minorities in Ontario…NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Well here comes the name calling again -I have watched for hours and read all these RANTS-there is no question as I have done the same before on freeholder les is Aint.
The name calling as the above post continues as their comments hold very little fact as well as reasoning .
I find that calling people “dumba” and” KKK”is not very productive in facilitating open communication.
Funny I do not see name calling from the people who agree with LFA ,this is a pattern I have noticed as well at the standard .
It is amazing when one sits back and observes for days the comments from various people.
Well my conclusion is that there are a few individuals on this site as well as standards that are insultive as well as presenting with bullying type of behavior-not all but the majority is from the one side
To resolve issues one must respect the opinions of others
as for each persons that voice their concern there are many that read these opinions but do not respond.
So please respect the person who is not voicing the concern and avoid TRASH TALKING
Thank You for respecting others
Le Renard bleu…..
You wrote, “And just so you know, that abbreviation would stand for the ”Kristopher Kameron Klan”… lol!
You are the very reason licences should be required to reproduce.
Try telling me the above comment isn’t a hate crime.
If I ever decided to run for office I would never take donations for doing so. The very first ones to be in line to donate money to me would be the triumvirate of Stella, Le Renard Bleu and Les Habitants. They would find a way to stab me in the back by decrying foul play somehow.
Easy way though to get elected is to throw a few million at Franco-Ontario causes……just buy the French language vote…no integrity there.
Patrick -Discrimination happens in many forms just as bullying has many forms and both tend to work together :such as your fellow followers of the faith (Bilingualism).
Remember language is not a religion -should you fight for your right to impose your language on others ?
Perhaps francophones could maintain their language at home-the best way to maintain any language is TEACH IT AT HOME many other languages /cultures do it this way :)- why must the rest of Canada be forced to learn it so they can have opportunities in Gov jobs for that 17% not 24%.-stats can 2006-less now
We should have a poll -ask -would people outside of Quebec enroll their children in french immersion if bilingualism was not required for Gov jobs ? -I suspect an overwhelming no!
Or is it that they want to have their children learn any other language?
Excuse me who is trying to eliminate minorities?-what
French is part of Canadian culture yes and language is needed yes -but do all GOV positions need to be bilingual (french) -bilingual means french in Canada -in all other countries it means 2 languages!
Where is the representation by population?That would be fair and equitable !-to consider otherwise is not democratic and is called elitism !
My problem with all this is that because of the GOV mandation of french all other languages are not even considered an asset -this is really appalling and a loss to our cultural mosaic therefore impedes multiculturalism .
One cannot have multiculturalism and mandate with veracity one language /culture (bilingualism) and funding of billions to enforce it!
**Smile** -have a nice day :)-
oppression………your comments are totaly one sided. If one doesn’t jump on the english language bandwagon we become the scum of the earth and called every name in the book on this site. I can’t believe you could say such a thing………..thinking your sense of observation needs to expand somewhat. If you can sit there and say that only french speaking people are abusive…..you really need go a little deeper then the surface when reading these blogs. When being bashed left right and center……in your eyes should one sit back and take the abuse without responding?
The buck stops here!
Cornwall is the epicenter for language and equality rights with regards to hiring !
Its not the french people LFA is fighting -but the Quebec politics!
Language has become a religion for Quebecois as well as the francophone.
Well I don’t want your religion nor does the 91% as polled in the standard freeholder that allows segregated services .
For cultures to live in harmony all must be treated Equally -IN CANADA that does not happen.
All cultures and religions should have equal footing and not be funded by the Government .
The NDP federally are trying to push a bill that requires senior Gov management as well as MP’s to be bilingual -how is that right?
For example in Newfoundland that has .4 % bilingual pop -I guess that 100 people are the best choice right?
This has become ridiculous!
What has happened to my beloved Canada -I is no longer a DEMOCRACY!
Hi Everyone,
Please keep any personal attacks to a minimum. We at CFN pride ourselves on this being a safe and interesting forum for discussion. Personal attacks detract from the discussion; debate, and conversation.
Thank you for your cooperation.
BTW oppression…………read up at Rozie’s post. Is calling people fools alright in your eyes?? Like I said in my last post, before you judge us and write a post claiming the french speaking people are abusive, don’t just skim the surface and don’t just focus on a few post…………..read with an open mind. This is the way I look at it. In a psychology course we had a chapter on “mirror images” and this is how it goes: When someone complains about another person and tries to pick out their flaws or tries to belittle another by verbal abuse whatever bothers them about the other person is what they actually see about themselves. So…having said that, when someone verbally abuses me on this site……..it speaks volumes to me on what type of person they are. So folks………..keep up the abuse because I say to myself when someone is uneducated, uninformed, common and can’t respond without being abusive……..they are pathetic indeed.
Thank you Jamie, decorum is of upper-most importance -we need to respect each other .
It is understandable that this subject can be passionate in nature but does not need to be personal in attacks.
May all have a good day:)
AND………..I can honestly say, I have NEVER called anyone a name……….never was my style and never will be. PERIOD!!! I may have used sarcasm at times or accentuated my beliefs in a somewhat direct way……..but no one but no one can say I attacked someone by name calling.
Stella/Carlita, for someone who said they would never waste their time with CFN you sure have been spending a pile of time here voicing your opinions. lol Not happy with the Freeholders new posting rules limiting you to one language? lol
It seems your question has been answered, but yet you still haven’t answered any questions posed to you. why is that? Instead of having a discussion you continue to pick apart the posts of others, name calling and pretending to be offended. Your buddy Les/aint repeats himself ad nauseum and neither of you has said anything new for days. enough all ready. get some new schtick or go back to the freeholder and continue bashing the unions. The very unions by the way. that fought for you bilingual rights!
Chris you are absolutely right and correct in your assertion! Why is this permitted in our ‘democracy’? The billiions spent on this bilingualism should (if not given to more pressing issues like healthcare, feeding the hungry, etc.) should then at the very least be divided amongst the other languages as well.
Stella, would you agree to the billions currently being spent on bilingualism to instead be spent on healthcare, social services and feeding the hungry?
And please, a yes or no will suffice. If you answer no, I see no foreseeable hope in the improvement in your ethics whatsoever. I cannot fathom why you would answer no to this. This leads me to another concern as well. Let’s assume your’re a French Canadian woman. Again, let’s assume that you’re a practicing Roman Catholic as well. At what point would your religious sentiments override any socio-political-economic concerns you might have as raised by the issue of bilingualism and what you believe in?
I was raised a Roman Catholic but don’t follow the religion. I can already hear your thought patterns here as I know you don’t care what religion I do/do not follow. But you have to ask yourself would you rather support the expansion of a language at the expense of feeding people or making them healthy again?
It is a tough question but one you really need to ask yourself. Canada was recently berated for failing several grades by the UN including it’s ability to feed it’s populace. Surely, some or all of this money set aside for bilingualism could have been earmarked for more pressing issues.
If you answer that the money should be kept for bilingualism, then if I ever do run for office, I don’t believe I should want your vote anyhow.
And finally, I have to point something else here as well. Over these past couple of months, you have always skirted issues with me and have done some strange, if not remarkable things I shall shed light on now.
The latest is asking questions of me for which I have nothing to do with. For instance, why would you try to solicit a response about LFA, my brother Chris’s employment or anything else not having to do with me personally? Should you receive no response from Bev, Chris or a host of others from your questioning, then why attempt to milk something from me? Part of your training that I would like to emphasize if you wish to continue to be a member of my ‘Press Corps’, is to seek answers from the source themselves. Anything else shall be considered libel, slanderous or hearsay. That’s your first lesson.
On to lesson 2. You are pushing issues here Stella that are personal to the people to which you continously insult at a moment’s notice. I do not hear of your employment being threatened, nor revoked and I do not hear you complaining of the frustration of not being able to secure a full-time job in your field. So dearheart, while you sit at your computer, drinking your coffee and think that this is one big form of entertainment on a Sunday morning for you, try having a little bit of empathy for those who really have something at stake in this issue!
Then and only then, perhaps will I take you and your insulting kind seriously.
But alas, this whole entire issue is one big ‘laugh’ for you.
I hope that if the unmentionable ever occurs to you – say you get into a car accident, require CPR or are in dire health straits by the side of the road, I hope that one of these very caring, professional unilingual nurses reading these blogs passes by without a wink and tells you they are ‘unqualified’ to serve you as they’re not bilingual. Tell me love, how would you feel then?
Cory
Bonjours ! yep the rhetoric she floes this morning.. “fighting Quebec politics” …then go to PQ and fight in Pq .. This is Ontario. “Not the french people LFA is fighting” Ha ! standing outside and trying to show how french people are not equal to anyother Canadian for health care..ha! but using french and bilingual peoples taxes is ok for English only services right chris? wow!! claiming 91% poll agee with you… !!?? hahaha!! 91% of lfa group about 20 people agree with you that is the 91% you are showing… not 91% of Cornwall and area.. geez … can`t adccept the fact that the hospital servesa growing region and deserves the best doctors and equipment.. so Chris` group blockades and encourages lfa memebers and others to call and blockade a radio fundraiser back in May .. no thanks to his bunch that we will get 2 much needed pieces of life saving equipment.. “very nurselike attitude there right LFA?”
quote from Chris..” all cultures and religions should have equal footing and NOT be funded by the government…”” See the flaw ? putting everything in one basket under the heading they aren`t worthy of services but the goverment will use there billions of taxdollars to keep english first and king…Unless it is english only!!services, jobs and healthcare and education.. all other cultures and languages according to LFA and Beth Trudeau and Galganov…If I may borrow from their latest antics “.step to the back of the bus please.. all other languages and cultures back of the bus please.. “english first .and only first…all others stay home and and teach your kids your culture… english only here please yes it is king because we say so.. let us use your taxes to our advantge only….Now .. if that isn`t oppression and discrimination under the guise of Equality or Fairness??? it has no merit this little group and pockets of dissent across Canada …Charter Rights are for all with proper education and services.. it isn`t the “French” who are stopping any other culture or kanguage from thriving in Canada.. it is this Cockamamie idea of “Fairness” without Equality”…that is the attack on democracy…unfairness and inequality is what Galganov is about and his little band of unmerry followers are desperately caving by trumping up divisions and costing taxpayers money…
oppression is regulation 17 in Ontario ..it took generations to overturn that bigotry!! never going back again….
Oppression, its actually 22.1..it used to be 24%..
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-003-x/2007001/4129904-eng.htm
One thing that is sad though, is the french language is on a constant decline in Canada. Even in Québec, its declining..
Every time someone is trying to defend franco rights outside of Québec, i hear some say…well Québec does worse. I wish that we could as a franco-ontarian have the same luxuries that anglo Québecers have… sign law…put them bilingual..and the french could be three times shorter I don’t care as long as its there, give us in Ontario our french university.. anglos have more then one in Québec.. Mcgill, Concordia…and another i Forgot the name of. They have community colleges… here we had to fight to keep our cité collégiale and our montfort. (thanks mike harris.) To those that complain that you can’t get a job because of language… apply for a non bilingual position…because if you had the chance to learn french for 12 years of school and you didnt bother to retain any of it.. maybe language isnt the problem.
I forgot where it was posted but i read a quote of trudeau where he was basically saying…its impossible for canadians to be equal… Trudeau was right. We need to have garantees in our constitution to protect minorites. We need to promote more the french language, not cut the funding.. we need to promote diversity, more equality for women… extra protection for elders that want to remain in the workplace…
The head chief has spoken…..the buck stops here LMAO!!!! So now the LFA or whatever it is called today is not only fighting discrimination here but fighting Quebec politics also and even bringing religion into this…..now that is truly funny LOL Interesting!!! Does anybody really care what is happening in Newfoundland? If you find what is happening in Newfoundland ridiculous what do you think the majority of citizens think of what is happening in Cornwall? You can throw your numbers around all you want Kristopher……but let me assure you that the MAJORITY of the citizens are against your views and what you are doing. And that you can take to the bank. You can fool some of the people some of the time……..
What has become of your beloved Canada you ask?? Let me tell you what is GOING TO BECOME of our PEACEFUL AND LOVING country. It is going to be destroyed by intolerance, jealousy and hate by the same people who are trying to destroy now. One only has to listen to the news and see what is going on elsewhere…….is that what we want here? Not happy……ok no problem, we will start a group and fight for what we want and if we don’t succeed……..start a revolution. Great attitude…..then the entire country is fighting each other……Sounds wonderful doesn’t it……..
Patrick the following is a comment I posted earlier in response to your comment about being served in French by an English person at a restaurant…
“Patrick thank you but I’m afraid you really don’t understand. All that some of us are asking for is the opportunity to practice what we have learned but as you know the level of French required is much higher than most of us have, therefore we are being denied the opportunity to apply for these bilingual positions. If these levels were lower and we were given the chance to try, and if there was a true need to be speak French, then of course, we
would improve that skill, just as you would any other skill. For me personally, it’s not that I am afraid of being laughed at, it is that I am always being corrected. Not only that, being denied so many good job opportunities because my French is only intermediate and having to accept the fact that the person who got the job speaks French but has maybe 5/10 years less experience than you. Do you really think I would want to speak French for the fun of it. If all of the French citizens of Canada accepted the attempt made by the English to speak French or accepted the fact that some never had the opportunity to learn, then I don’t think we would be having these discussions. As you know it is very important for the French child to be educated in their mother tongue but for the English it would be to their advantage not to. Do you ever really think about that? So many times I read posts from bilingual bloggers who make ridiculous comments such as “I learned to speak both languages at a very young age so why can’t everyone else?” Do they ever really think about why that is?”
By the way, I’m regretting saying Thank You in my earlier post. Your more recent comment shows your true self. Yep just like my 6-year old nephews and nieces, all learning to speak both languages because they were lucky to be born into families where one parent is French and the other English, and when we gather on the English side, they are so paranoid about their children learning French that they speak to their children in French even if the rest of the family is clueless as to what is being said. Pretty sad.
Furthermore those people who are not getting the jobs they applied to is because they are not at the advanced level when it comes to speaking French Patrick, that’s it, nothing else,
Once again Blue Fox you have avoided the question. I’ll repeat it for you…..”Are you saying that having equal job opportunities with Anglophones means total demise for Francophones?”
Patrick what does asking for fair opportunities have to do with eliminating your culture..really?
Carlita I don’t like name calling either but if you don’t like what I said I am supposed to be okay with yours ” uneducated, uninformed, common and can’t respond without being abusive……..pathetic.
All I ask is that you not presume to know when you obviously don’t.
Baby, look in the mirror…LOL
what the lfa is attempting in the awkward way of itself is perhaps close to a “hate rime” as described in the Criminal code of Canada sections 318,319..they are targeting a whole culture to deny them lawful legal rights and trying to take away those equal rights based on language and culture…that is what the ugly truth is in Cornwall by these outrageous accusations of discrimination… the very democracy they complain about is actually allowing them to be obnoxious in public…
REG, it is impossible, and it will never be equal. Had it been equal, everyone would get service in their own language…
Disagree with you again rozie, You don’t have to have one parent french one parent anglo in order to be fully bilingual…or be fluent enough to get a job.
being fair opportunities…I have as much anglo bilingual friends then franco bilingual friends. Its ridiculous… to think that just because of language, your not getting a job.”ITS NOT” its because of qualifications. Its like me applying for a job as a mechanic…am i going to cry discrimination because they wont hire me…nope..they are just going to say. sir, we didn’t hire you cause you can’t change a tire and you put windshield washer in the radiator.
I will not dignify the repeating of any question, which I’ve actually answered anyway, unless I am called my proper alias. Too bad if someone can’t read between the lines. Not my problem.
So CC of Cornwall himself, in person, yeah, the one and only, has seen fit to come down and pay us a visit. It indeed seems to be him, not someone trying to pose as him, for only he would express himself that way.
Hi dude! Really I don’t know whether I should be laughing at, or be offended by, your antics, which are getting more and more pathetic. You never cease to ”amaze” me and I can’t wait to see what up with which you will come next.
You’ve written ”Its not the french people LFA is fighting -but the Quebec politics!”.
Wow! A novelty. There are a number of reasons to fight Quebec politics indeed these days but the matter that is supposed to be your ”cause” isn’t one of them by any means. Quebec politics has bl—y nothing to do with it.
You’ve also written ”Language has become a religion for Quebecois as well as the francophone.”.
That’s right. We, French speakers in general, practise language as we would a religion. In fact I regularly attend the weekly ceremony where the master holds up a sacred vessel, then another, saying, ”The night of His last supper, He said to His disciples, ‘Take this, and eat. This is My tongue, which is given up for you.’ Then, at the end of supper, He took the cup and said, ‘Take this, and drink. This is my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting language. Speak it in memory of me.’ ” 😀
The next laughable piece coming from your hastily typing fingers is ”Well I don’t want your religion nor does the 91% as polled in the standard freeholder that allows segregated services .”.
Responses from less than two hundred ”people” – with a few of them who may very well have participated multiple times each – do not a scientific poll make.
Then the usual fallacious argument comes up with ”For cultures to live in harmony all must be treated Equally -IN CANADA that does not happen.
All cultures and religions should have equal footing and not be funded by the Government .”.
What I know for sure is that both founding peoples – to which notion the First Nations should definitely be added – must indeed be treated equally, and that means that their respective cultures and languages must be allowed to thrive and supported by the government.
What comes after this is ”The NDP federally are trying to push a bill that requires senior Gov management as well as MP’s to be bilingual -how is that right? ”.
Um, I will admit that it would be a little too much to require every single Member of Parliament to be fluent both in French and English but any one of them who wishes to go far and graduate in Canadian politics should definitely be bilingual, or else this MP can’t become, for instance, a major party leader. In any case I don’t recall ever seeing or hearing the NDP suggest that every single MP should be bilingual. As for the senior government servants, well, it only makes sense for employees working for the government of their own country to be able to communicate with them in the language of their choice if this language happens to be one of said country’s official languages. What more can I say here?
Next to be read is ”For example in Newfoundland that has .4 % bilingual pop -I guess that 100 people are the best choice right?
This has become ridiculous!”.
Now what the devil are you talking about? Even in one’s wildest fantasy, no one would ever dream of making the province of Newfoundland and Labrador officially bilingual in any way. Only there are historic or established French-speaking communities there too, namely in the Port au Port Peninsula on the west coast of the island portion of the province, in Labrador City – or Lab City, for those who know this town intimately enough – and in St. John’s. All that they require, at the very most, is bilingualism on a regional basis, not province-wide, and, believe me, that’s not going to affect the better part of the English-speaking population of the province in the way that you might claim it does.
Finally you’ve given us again your now proverbial ”What has happened to my beloved Canada -I is no longer a DEMOCRACY!”.
Sad to say, there is a bit of truth in that statement, or there might be someday. These days Canadian democracy is facing some kind of threat all right… but not for the reason that you’ve stated. Neither any current law that has anything to do with language or languages nor the Francophones are to blame in that respect. The actual threat to democracy is coming, basically, from the way that Prime Minister SH carries out his functions as the government leader and the more or less new conservative ideology that is behind it. Make no mistake, there is no lost love between the Quebecois or French Canadians and the Liberals either but what the Conservative Party of Canada is doing to this country, especially now that it has got its so obnoxiously and long coveted majority, is or will be ten times worse. The standpoints of Canadians for Language Fairness, assuming, especially, this organisation ever has its way (which, thank God, isn’t very likely to happen), aren’t going to help either as their stance on the official languages appear to be coupled with ultraconservative views on a number of other subjects, such as the environment and sex education in schools (as seen and heard on videos posted by a VideoManOttawa on YouTube).
That’s all that I have to say. If that is not a proper and convincing argumentation, I honestly don’t know what is, but it’s definitely not what I’ve quoted from you here. Ciao!
“There is no way two ethnic groups in one country can be made equal before the law….and to say it is possible is to sow the seeds of destruction”. Pierre Trudeau, 1966.
Now, Pierre, rip what you saw.
carol, he was right…this was 2 years before he became PM. But you should put it in context…and put the full quote. Every ethnic group is different…anyways i will not repeat what i said in a previous post, its just at times i feel that some have an answer ready before reading the post or the comment..
Pierre Trudeau was in my opinion the best PM we ever had…
Le Renard Bleu……merci!!! It is too bad that your comments won’t hit home with many here because some refuse to even try to understand……..they are on a mission and have only one goal and vision in mind and that is to seperate and destroy this country. First it started with “Equality for ALL” which…come to find out…. the name wouldn’t gather the masses because it only concerned the leader of the pack and his demise with the CCH. Nope not good enough….so we change the name to “Fairness for All” but that also doesn’t have much punch. So in order to try to get a few more people involved let’s call it “Language….whatever whatever” which came from another french hating group. This language issue and this group started locally but that is not good enough so now they are sticking their nose in Quebec politics and religion LOL now that is funny and pathetic at the same time. One doesn’t need PHD to see what is happening here, what their agenda is and what they are trying to do to this country. Yep CC loves his country……ok whatever. Thinking if one loves their country they seek peace and harmony and want to see it grow and prosper. They certainly don’t try to seperate a peaceful and caring country.
Le Renard Bleu, You’ve written:
“So CC of Cornwall himself, in person, yeah, the one and only, has seen fit to come down and pay us a visit. It indeed seems to be him, not someone trying to pose as him, for only he would express himself that way…”
Yup, that’s me.
”Its not the french people LFA is fighting -but the Quebec politics!”. Nope, mistaken identity.
Nope didn’t write above, Chris did!
Before writing something, ensure your thoughts are not disjointed. It’s difficult to follow at times what you’re trying to say. For instance, there are two CC’s right. Cory and Chris! Don’t confuse one for the other. Chris is in Cornwall, Cory isn’t! Cory is from Cornwall. Yup, Cory is coming down for a visit.
Nice to see the Press Corps following things so closely this fine morning. I wonder if they are doing so from the comforts of the desks of their civil service jobs – the ones I missed out on. Maybe their bosses should be made aware of this if this is the case….
the late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau was the most effective of the world leaders in his time… the evidence is in his continued legacies of Constitutional re- patriation and the evolving rights and shaping of the Canadian way of life …Carol anyone can quote a world leader of any country and twist the intended message for their own reasons….. you need context to make it effective for your argument or you may find that you have quoted the opposite of your intentions….
gee cory I thought you told your followers to stop this open diatribe and concentrate of politcal mps and letters to the editor..?? Truble following your own rules?? a little disjointed in direction??like the direction of CLF ??or LFA!
Cory, jealousy is not a virtue… working hard to get where I am is… understanding the rules of the game and playing by those rules made the game more enjoyable… and my “boss” has no illusuons about your “group”and mindset…
French or English this is fantastically awesome. I think we all need to simmer down a bit in this blog here, Maudit Crisse!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sniMbSEzsg
Martin Matte is great!
Enjoy!
Les Habitants,
Continuer avec les reponse,
Je te besoin un rire.
Ou deux.
Thanks Habitants,
At the very least it took another insult to get you to respond to a question, did it not.
I guess I have to get you emotionally involved in order to solicit a direct response. Is this the case.
Cory…….thinking you got your wires crossed. Le Bleu Renard was using a bit of sarcasm in saying CC has seen fit to come down and pay us a visit. She wasn’t directing that comment to you. What she was alluding to is the “leader of the pack” who seldom makes his appearance here and suddenly he decided to make his “grand entrance” in all his splendor **s**
I see apologies are in order then. I thought reference was made to me. Thanks Stella for the clarification.
c`est pas moi qui sacre come explications des faits saillants…!! Cory , tu doit avoir honte!!! Peu importes ton message maladroit…Les citoyens de Cornwall s`enfous,,,,If a reporter corners you on a question when you visit will you swear at them too Cory!!!shame !! you picked on the wrong community i`d say!!
Pierre Trudeau-may have been loved by millions (french) because of charisma-well so was Hitler was loved by millions as well .
In the magazine The Beaver -Trudeau was rightly pointed out the most despised Canadian politician EVER .
So considering your viewpoints Patrick that does not surprise me where you stand .
PET damaged the country -in that the rights of the few now trump the rights of the many -thank you the charter of rights.
He did a dance behind the queen during the signing of the constitution -extremely disrespectful .
PET had a mega hyper perception of himself-megalomania !
TO me he was treasonous on his actions to the rest of Canada.
He was the WORST thing to happen to Canada -if his Son were to ever get to be Leader of the liberals -say good by to the west -remember they pay the bills!
Than you Carol for the PET quote -many similar to that !
` Bilingual today, french tomorrow` -ANOTHER QUOTE FROM FROM OUR TREASONOUS PRIME MINISTER -1969.
THE BLUE FOX -91% of respondents agreed with the LFA -what would you have said if it were 91 % disagreed !you disagreed with the national posts stats of the majority would not care if Quebec separated.
IT would seem that you only agree with the stats if it represents the numbers YOU want !
Now you need to be true to yourself and not lie to yourself!
Stella – Christopher`s name is with a C not a K -as to the reference to KKK-perhaps on my reference to french I should use F as in fascist .
So les calling the group the KKK is not considered a hate crime….just wondering .
Patrick -You said -french language is on a constant decline in Canada ,even in Quebec its declining -So tell me this why would french be in decline in Quebec when Quebec excepts only one language and English is suppressed.
Perhaps you need to tell Quebecers to maintain their own language and not to expect the rest of Canada to do it!
If french cannot even maintain their own language -it is there cultural problem!!
Should the second generation Chinese blame the rest of Canada because their parents did not maintain their mother tongue .
Should the third generation of Italian blame Canada for their loss of language -because the Gov did not enforce it like ANOTHER LANGUAGE -It must first start at home -The french in Quebec are their own worst enemies-tell them to teach it at home!
Regulation 17 in Ontario was a direct result of lost langauge to Franco Onatarians Oppresion 2..Now .that was real oppression …. laws were enacted to stop french language .. laws were repealed to allow the growth and services of franco ontarions to return to some element of rights…. it will take generations since 1968 to come to the equal footing deserved….Never did comment on KKK or whatever you think of Pierre Trudeau… Obviously millions of french and english |Canadians believed in him because he served so many terms as PM… whatever a Beaver thinks ..taxpayers of all languages and cultures have rights not just English …you are blaming francophones for holding back other minorities,,, when indeed they can learn from the francophone experience… don`t let anyone make you believe you are not worthy of equal status in Canada …a small group like CLF fears the monorities of all because they fear being supplanted and create divisions.. think on this… if Pierre Trudeau was so french driven only, why did he fight the FLQ and bring in martial law ?to save the nation!!!!is the answer….you are oppressing yourselves clf and lfa…. no one else is doing it for you….
Les Habitants,
Dit moi,
C’est quand est la derniere foit que tu fait un l’entrevue avec un journaliste? Pour moi, cette sujet de ‘bilingue’ est pas juste. Pourquois quelqu’un qui a plusieurs de 15 ans d’experience a une poste; puis qui appliquer sur un poste a temps plein – ne pas donner cette poste?
On a parler du la sujet de ‘sacre’. J’ai ecrit quelque chose ici pour montrer des comedie. (Martin Matte)
I think you just chose to jump on me for showing that comedian. Come on, Habitants, things are getting crazy here. I wanted to simmer down a bit with levity. I thought everyone would enjoy this link (Martin Matte).
I meant no harm intention. I guess I’m just a tete carre, right?
Ya I looked up Regulation 17 and that isn’t right either. I had no idea that that had existed or even had.
Regulation 17 was wrong but so is the OLA and FLSA-two wrongs do not make a right-the pendulum with reg 17 pushed to the one side -now the pendulum has been pushed to the opposite side -and NOW HELD THERE .
The Beaver is a Canadian polico/history magazine-there are very attune to the Canadian political environment.
You continue to bring up regulation 17 -now do the African Americans continue to bring up slavery -no that’s the past this is the future-if they did would there be Black president -of which is fantastic -now can we have an English only Prime Minister ?
Of course that would not be permitted -because that 17 % would riot wouldn’t they ?
Francophone policies is holding back other minority languages because other minority languages do not have equal footing with regards to the biggest employer in Canada -THE CANADIAN Government!
So do you honestly think that other languages have equal footing to french in the GOV ?
Do you think the GOV spends billions on other languages ?
Do you think that french being mandated in Gov institutions encourages other minority languages ?
FLQ was Quebec’s mess -to save what nation?save from what ?Quebec(FRENCH) terrorists-it still means the squeeky wheel gets the grease,and many laws changed after the FLQ-they got off easy in fact one of its members went into politics -of course there wasn’t a big jump there!
So do you believe that we should have a separitist party in federal gov to break up the country as well ?
So you think LFA group is there to break up the country?
But I am sure you would advocate the block-yet there ARE there to break up the country!
Oh by the way I am sure LFA is happy to have you folks on here as even as bad as your viewpoints its still being talked about and I believe that their mission ….so thank you all for talking about this !
have a good day:)-
On issue of Pierre Elliot Trudeau,
Our country is still most divided upon how Trudeau’s influence will be recorded in our (Canadian) history.
What must be said is this: The man (Trudeau) was still a Quebecer first and a Canadian second. I fear this is the same with his son Justin, who, should he run in the next federal election, most certainly will repeat some of this Quebec first policy should he become PM.
Now take a look at this site, http://thetyee.ca/Books/2006/09/14/Trudeau/ This highlights the political context in which Pierre Trudeau grew up. There is much to be said in regards to his past which I believe influenced many of his future policies as PM.
Take a look now at this, http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/quebec-group-pushes-interculturalism-in-place-of-multiculturalism/article569581/
Justin Trudeau is amongst a group of provocating ‘interculturalism’ instead of ‘multiculturalism’.
Here is yet another case in below link (in case someone thinks I’m picking on Justin Trudeau and his beliefs) that clearly highlights this concept of ‘interculturalism’.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/949640–will-interculturalism-replace-multiculturalism
This ‘interculturalism’ is just a fancy term to describe Quebec’s fear of the effects of ‘multiculturalism’. To me, it’s appearing like a racist reaction to the real affects of an integrated, multicultural society.
Oppresion2 you have a problem with PQ.. go to PQ to see the real answers… try to be less intimidating , you`ll have a better reasoning ability… This is Ontario.. we are more than one language in all reality… we must be multicultural for the global world stage… Cory cameron every prime minister has his or her followers and believers …brian mulroney is perhaps the most controversial pm ever… but i see you don`t want to touch that one….