CFN – Too many Canadians take being Canadian for granted. In Quebec our flag finally, with the support of two political parties is now standing again in the Quebec legislature.
To Yves-Francois Blanchet of the PQ who requested the removal of our flag; turn in your passport sir.
And while you’re at it denounce the benefits you gain from being a citizen of one of the finest countries in the world! And to hypocrites like Jacques Parizeau, (we know which hospital you run to when you’re sick) the same. Maybe Mr. Parizeau can have tea with the new mayor of Montreal? 🙂
Canadians from coast to coast have fought for and built this country; English and French. If it wasn’t for French Voyageurs shooting it out from tree tops in British Columbia Canada would not even exist as we know it.
If there’s a genuine political will for some people to separate from Canada; which two referendums clearly show there isn’t, then you can go pulling down flags.
Stop disrespecting your country. It’s shabby. And to Ms Marois and her ilk the same goes for you. If you can’t respect the country and people that gave you the right to be divisive, racist, and intolerant; rip up your passports and renounce any financial benefits gained.
People can work for change without this type of behaviour. Disrespecting flags and peoples are not the way to promote your own dreams, or build them. It’s time more people learned that lesson…and it’s time our Federal government started standing up for Canadians rights in Quebec…
An ex-Quebecer proudly living in Canada,
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Taken the words right out of my mouth! 🙂
Stand proud for our country :Certainly was an insult to Canadians as well as our veterans and troops to see the flag disrespected in Quebec.
Marois must understand that people notice this as partisan and it scores points with the separatist ,but it alienates Quebec from the rest of Canada ,yet 2/3 of the province of Quebec are staunch federalists.
So 100% true Jamie!!! Who ever heard of people in our own government acting so shamefully?! The sad part is that people are STUPID, yes I said STUPID enough to vote them in. Makes one wonder for sure. Canada is but one country and the Canadian flag should soar proudly everywhere. No more taking down of Canadian flags for the Quebec one or for Franco-Ontarian. The Canadian flag should be the last one to come down…….
i don`t know lowlow.. i like and admire the flags at Brookdale ave. near the bridge..withyour thinking provincial and sovereign nation flag would have to disappear. i also have neighbors that fly the union jack It does not bother me , why should it bother you? Also have seen wonder flags representing other organizations like RCAF or RCN it is understood that we all are granted these freedoms by the beloved ‘maple leaf” adopted feb 1965….til then Canada had the union jack in the top left corner with the littlebitty provincials shield on the right side in a field of red.. and the fleur de lys was on that to ….so was the lion and the wheat ….so fly your individual flags with pride and thanks for the freedoms to do so in this country… but I take offence when someone disgraces our flag in away way by superimposing an anti canadian message or any other representation…No flying a flag is ok .disgracing a flag is not.. but I guess liberty and freedom allows one do to that but just because you have a right does not make it right…
and lowlow the Warriors are awful proud of their heritage and flag! are you going to knock on the parade too!? I`ve seen quite a few of Warrior flags displayed in windows around Cornwall.. what do you think of that.. I think it is a very good representation of their heritage…
Vivre le Canada libre!!!! Protegera nos foyers et nos droits!!!
Yep……..it’s a wonderful country, the english fighting the french in Ontario and english supporting radicals in Quebec
Thinking it is safe to say once upon a time it was a wonderful country and still is in my books, however, when one group tries to overtake any country, that’s were problems begin.
Respect of country, it’s inhabitants and our flag and we can all live in peace and harmony!!!
Lolochuck, hope you don’t mind an addition to your comment,” The Canadian flag is the first to go up,last to go down”……..
Have a nice day.
I hurt for our troops who give their lives for these jerkoffs to pull a stunt like removing our flag. It tore my heart out.
Finally the Supreme Court of Canada had the guts and glory to require our ‘mutual’ Canada flag return to its rightful place in the
the Quebec legislature.
In their own provincial election clearly 65% (two other parties) were voted in against separatists. Bravo……you too must have been pissed at P. Marios.
So ‘To Yves-Francois Blanchet of the PQ who requested the removal of our flag turn in your passport sir.’ As well MR. Jacques Parizeau the flap mouth for anti-Anglo hypocrites.
CFN, you are absolutely right.
Say’s added by admin but not written by admin and i have learned from past “situations” that you can be a sneaky one so i will say it this way 🙂
To whomever wrote, “People can work for change without this type of behavior. Disrespecting flags and peoples are not the way to promote your own dreams, or build them. It’s time more people learned that lesson…and it’s time our Federal government started standing up for Canadians rights in Quebec…”
Well freekin said indeed…
I dunno Highlander, i would say a good 2/3rds of that number are those “federalists” that want their cake and eat it too. You know, French only in Quebec and French predominant everywhere else in Canada like they are doing now.
It’s no wonder the mood among them is “not to separate.” After all they have everything they could want and pushing for more. Practically total French Quebec and then, jobs galore with things like French ONLY clinics in Ontario. I used to have that “let’s stay together and make it work” kind mentality but, we have been taken advantage of too severely for that now.
Naw, the shoes has switched feet. It is now up to the English to “press.” We MUST take back our country and put an end to this “forced bilingualism and Frenchification with their Franco Ontario lags and the like.
We must stand tall and be just as proud of our ENGLISH Canada as they are of their French Quebec. A country where the common language is English.
If we continue to allow this situation with — French only this, and French only that— outside of that god forsaken province they will just slowly and gradually turn the ROC into what “some” have always aspired to and wanted…
A French dominant bastion (the whole country) in North America
Québec cannot stand on their own and we all know it and so do they. If Québec were to be independent it would have had to be done way back during ancient times and not today. The French people of Québec are just trying to hold on to their language and culture and not be anglicized like the rest of us here in Ontario and across the country. I don’t blame them one bit for wanting to hold on to what little they have. Other cultures want to do the same thing. If cultures lose their heritage then they have lost a lot of their identity. Immigrants do whatever they can to hold on to their culture. Well people my husband is foreign and my children do not speak Arabic and so many of my husband’s countrymen would get upset at my husband because our children do not speak the language and my husband told them that (I his wife does not speak Arabic and is Canadian) and our children are born and raised here in Canada and will remain here so they don’t need the language. As for knowing French yes it is essential to have French as well as English and the more you know the better you are and jobs come easier than having just one language. We should all be proud of what we have here in Canada and when you look at what is going on abroad we have a great deal to be thankful for believe me you don’t know that until you lose everything.
Once again Jules……well said, but sadly, the english don’t care. They want to rule……Period!!! It’s their entitlement attitude that is going to seperate this peaceful nation. We owe them…..they owe no one……they are the majority. This attitude of being superior is what causes civil wars. Like the Muslim Brotherhood, they want to rule and feel it is their right and look what is happening there.
When people get that crazy, so immersed in their beliefs and so full of hatred towards another culture…..it’s time for the english to be put in their place for good before it festers and becomes uncontrollable. The gov has more important things on their plate to deal with. Time for the gov to stand up and put a stop to french intolerance.
“Time for the gov to stand up and put a stop to french intolerance.”
Yeah, just like they put a stop to English intolerance in Quebec eh ? Right !!!
— You and your ilk have not seen French intolerance …
It’s amazing how everything you say is so EXACTLY what the French have done and are doing. Pity you don’t see that yourself.. . Or, as i said before, you likely do but you’re an agitator like Thibideau and his 7up on the Westjet flight.
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Stella I think your comments are out of line. You need to keep in mind that most of these english speaking posters are extremists rejected by both francophones and anglophones. The Glengarry News reported that only 40 supporters showed up at the presentation at the last South Glengarry meeting. Clearly anglophones will not support agitators from either side.
John……my comments are directed to this group of radicals only. The majority of english speaking people do not agree with this groups views and what they are trying to do. My comments are in no way shape or form directed to all english speaking people……thank God they are not all like this bunch.
Again…….trouble starts when a group wants to control and using the Muslim Brotherhood is just an example to prove a point only. When people go ballistic with their views…….anything can happen. Extreme? perhaps. Realistic….YES!!!
..it’s called scare tactics..instill fear..aliken the enemy to the Muslim Brotherhood..Nazis..or Jihad. During WW2, the Japanese Government were experts at propoganda..they instilled so much fear into their citizens that when allied troops began to occupy Japan, women and children were jumping off cliffs to their death….
Glad to hear that Stella. These French-hating posters are a fringe element in our society. There are many like me who want reasonable changes, though.
Ferris mentioned something interesting about the Japanese government instilling fear into their people and yes that is true because they also compared the US to the sleeping giant.
Today there is this “war on terror” which is mostly a fear mongering war and all against Islam. Yes to a certain degree it is “more like a repetition of the ancient crusaders” and we are fighting that same kind of war.
There is that weird book that I bring up now and then on 1984 where “war is peace, peace is war, love is hate, hate is love, etc. etc. etc.” and yes none of it makes any sense but it is how the political system works nowadays – Satan is behind the ill doings of man.
John….like you, I personally have no problem either. Changes are good and necessary in order for a country to move forward. However, this signage issue is nonsense. The people who are behind this movement have their own agenda and it is dividing this country.
When radical extremist disrupt society, try to seperate a peaceful nation and create problems over piddly issues, that is a different ballgame. I am happy this group is not being taken seriously but nevertheless they should be put in their place for once and for all. With everything that is going on in the world, who needs this BS. If they are not happy…….”go west” as their slogan says.
Now John what are reasonable changes you ask for?
There is no one in LFA that are French hating ,but like you we want change that better reflects the population!
And how many times you have told people leave if you not happy Julie Lecompte.
The true radical is you JULIE AND YOUR PROPAGANDA trying to decide a nation?WTF REALLY a group advocating for equality ,yet you condone the separatist truly trying to separate the country.
Now what is your real adgenda Julie,is it Canadian first or French first ,tell us which one,I know I always think Canada first.
How about you,do you define youself as French Canadian or Canadian?
piper……Does galganov’s pamphlets ring a bell? Unless you have changed it recently, the pamphlets stated clearly on how and why french should be eliminated. Does that sound like a group that likes french people?
Again for the 100th time….I am a Canadian first. This BS about french and english is total nonsense. We always got along, but of course the english (not all) who follow their savior, the g, have gotten totally brainwashed and are blowing this language thing right out of proportion, especially with the inflated numbers and fabricated stories.
Let Quebec deal with their own language issues. Why must you try to get the entire country involved? And please, don’t bring up the language on business signs….that is a farce. It doesn’t harm anyone nor does it affect anyone personally and in the end, what did it change or matter? NOTHING!!! ca-vas?
John maybe only 40 people showed up and I have to tell I wasn’t one of them but I also have to tell you that I really wanted to go but I don’t have what it takes. I know many, many more like myself John who feel the same way. Even though our presence would have been only to support what LFA is trying to do, if there were Richards and Julie HRs on council then our attendance would have been perceived as something else… What we want John is what you want, change…and if you think LFA is not going about it the right way then you should be of help and you should advise. Just because South Glengarry doesn’t have a sign by-law doesn’t mean they shouldn’t think about having one. They have had to make a decision recently regarding Township signage, so why not business signage. My fear is that if bilingual signage will be enforced, then bilingual service will also be expected. Just because we were born into English families should not mean that we have no right to a decent livehood.
When LFA wanted to fight for fair hiring practices they had my interest. They do not have my support on this signage issue because you can already use any language you want on your signs in South Glengarry. So this is just agitation and trouble making, like the francophone who sued Air Canada about the 7up he order. Francophone or anglophone I don’t support that.
Rosie well said: very impassioned ,Richard may not like the means but how does change not happen if no feathers are ruffled.
Suggestions are always welcome for a positive change in the scenario.
stellabystarlight
November 25, 2012 at 7:54 pm
-“Does galganov’s pamphlets ring a bell? Unless you have changed it recently, the pamphlets stated clearly on how and why french should be eliminated. Does that sound like a group that likes french people?”
So you have not seen the recent pamphlets ?
So you have argued the case on material from when 2 -3 years ago .
LFA would never agree to french being eliminated as most have french families -but the pamphlets out now all people and followers of LFA and CLF agree to.
Please be informed and read it before disagreeing with it.
It clearly defines allowing all languages on that business signs and the choice by the owner.
John “When LFA wanted to fight for fair hiring practices they had my interest”
That has not changed. So why not help the cause.
Again, the signage in South Glengarry is fine the way it is, but I don’t think it is going to stay that way. They will be enforced at some point and then where will you stand.
John he sued because he had a right to French service and you remember “Patrick” he had an employee fired because he wanted to be served in French in a giant chain store, and he had that right there too. So you see signage the way it is now, is fine but if bilingual signage is going to be enforced, and give it time, it will, then the business will be sued for not complying. So why not put something in place to stop this kind of nonsense.
Rosie, you can already use any language you want on your signs in South Glengarry … there is nothing more they can do. NOTHING. This resolution or bylaw accomplishes absolutely nothing because nothing changes in the present and nothing stops a future Council from requiring bilingual signs. It accomplishes nothing but causing trouble. We should concentrate on real problems that actually exist.
John don’t you think that in light of the Russell by law that your statement is naive at least and hypocritical at worst?
The Russell bylaw actually proves my point. You can’t stop a municipality from passing a bylaw. And a new Council in Russell can pass a new bylaw. Russell is where the problem is not South Glengarry. The only problem in South Glengarry are the trouble makers, and it’s not the French.
Highlander…..yep you changed the pamphlets contents but the agenda remains the same. You had no choice but to change the wording. The hatred towards the french was too obvious and damaging. So to make your agenda less obvious, what better way then change the wording of the g’s pamphlets against the french.
Rosie,
Thanks for all of your recent thoughts on the issue. Expect not a positive response from John. If I were you, I wouldn’t even waste my time on acknowledging the man.
John, (as well as all the others who support this bilingual French First policy) know full well the serious, unfair implications all of this causes in our daily lives. The most impactful issue being the one by which even bilingual people cannot get a designated bilingual position; both within government and non-government circles.
The French have their cake and can and do eat it too; much to the chagrin of every non-Francophone out there in Canada. But you know what, as some posters will attest to, it’s not their fault. In reality, it’s the countless millions out there who have allowed this to happen who truly should hang their heads in shame. Remember the old adage, screw me once, shame on you; screw me twice, shame on me? I think it applies here and now.
I have promised myself never to respond to the likes of some of these posters ever again. For the past year we’ve tried everything to make them see how unfair all of this is. Hell, I even wasted my time, effort, energy and hard earned money researching and writing an article here which indicated how hospitals within the Southern United States deal with service in a minority language. All to nil effect to those who have taken and continue to take complete advantage of the current situation!
I find it troubling Rosie when you indicated:
“John maybe only 40 people showed up and I have to tell I wasn’t one of them but I also have to tell you that I really wanted to go but I don’t have what it takes.”
There it is in a nutshell, right? I forgive you Rosie, but there is the other group who rely on this ‘English apathy’ and exploit it for all that it’s worth. In a way, you can see how Saint Jean de Lecompte and the bilingual parishioners are amateur sociologists and take utter and complete advantage of this English mindset.
John…..I couldn’t agree with you more. This group is creating problems were there are none. I have been saying the same thing for months now. Total nonsense!!! It’s a control thing.
What does the language on a sign change? If the ruling on signs made a difference at least we could perhaps understand……but there is no logical reason. To keep fighting it is absurd, unjustified and stupid.
“What does the language on a sign change? If the ruling on signs made a difference at least we could perhaps understand……but there is no logical reason. To keep fighting it is absurd, unjustified and stupid.”
Why are Walmart, Costco, Best Buy, Gap, Old Navy and Guess in the midst of court proceedings fighting some whim that they must change their trademarked, internationally known image/signs to suit Quebec “rules”? If it’s no big deal, then why such insistence by the provincial language watchdog’s?
Quebec is Quebec. this minority government of Madame Marois will change and the mighty American dollar will still roll into the province.. Money talks..and the other parties togetehr still hold the majority of seats. Madame Marois is already talking less about language and more about budget.. taxing the alcohol and ciggies…since laws about public smoking now affect cigarette sales she wants to tax them higher…. first budget will not be too popular with the average middle class worker and the next election they will lose seats.. wait and see…Quebec can decide for itself as can Ontario, Alberta manitoba ,Saskatchewan and all the other provinces .. Money talks…
At least now the Canada flag stays in the Quebec legislator.
Now why was the Canadian flag at Cornwall francophone monument only up on the one day -Nov 11/12 then taken down on the Nov 12.
What Canadian pride only for 2 days July 1st and Nov 11-There is no difference to this then the Quebec legislator.
Yet club Richelieu de Cornwall has plans to put an monument along the 401 corridor “to place a huge 15 feet by 30 feet Franco-Ontarian flag on a 80-foot pole .
All of this sponsored by the Canadian taxpayer -through trillium foundation and numerous other government entities.
Yet you will NOT see the provincial flag or Canadian flag of which both entities will pay for this.Why?
This intent is to clearly serve the cause of Franco-Ontario Tribalism at the cost of the taxpayers .
This does not represent our community as a whole but one cultural group out of many.
So people of Cornwall so do you think the Richelieu Club should be sponsored by the taxpayer to put another monument with an 80 foot franc-Ontario flag by the 401 similar to what exists in cassellman ?
Should one cultural groups flag be sponsored by all other cultures?
Should the franco monument by the Civic complex not have Cornwall’s city flag as Cornwall donated the land?
Do you think the francophone monument not have an Ontario flag as the majority of funds to build it came from Ontario’s taxpayers?
Why do you think the Canadian flag is only displayed there 2 days a year?
Are we not Canadians first?
Highlander, I thought that this was something they wanted to do but were turned down. I don’t understand this flag at all. Is there a Franco-Manitoba flag, or a Franco-New Brunswick flag? If I were driving the 401 and saw this flag before I saw Cornwall itself I would pass by the City just as I do Casselman.
Wondering if everyone is allowed to use this venue to promote, campaign or advertise for themselves?
@ Highlander
Please tell me it isn’t so!!!!
Cornwall has 46,000 people of which 36,000 are English, no way in HE** are those Ethnocentric Francho’s putting a Francho flag at our City’s entrance!!!
Over my dead body!!!!
I will fight this tooth & nail. I was born & raised in Cornwall like many others. No one group should represent our City!!!
This is going way too far!!!!
Rosie, Casselman is not asking for trouble // are you? they are just who they are.. are you?
highlander ..put up your own monument OH wait !!millions of dollars over the last 30 years of taxpayer money go to promote UPPER CANADA VILLAGE! a loyalaist idea// !!!so don`t bother putting down the small celebrations of the francophone community…We share the area too!
You know c’est drole if Casselman’s flag was appropriate in size I wouldn’t have a problem with it but for me personally it represents me not being employed full-time, so you see I have a problem with that.
Does anyone find it completely disrespectful to hang a HUGE Francho flag(PAID BY OUR TAX DOLLARS) with no regard to our Canadian flag or our Ontario flag.
Try doing that State side, they would rip it down & use for a dish rag!!!!
Do we not live in Canada, or is it Francho Canada.
Oh gee wait the Francho’s do want to change our Canadian Flag.
Maybe EDUDYORLIK can make a video showing us all the new CANADIAN-FRANCHO flag…..
French first is their mandate & screw the ROC!!!!
Imagine if the Flag of the Hispanic People’s flew in cities of the United States? How would all non-Hispanics feel if that were the case? One of these Franco-Ontario flags already exists at the entrance to Casselman. Hey folks, the intent cannnot be clearer. For passerbys, it screams, “This is a Franco-Ontario Community, all others aren’t welcome.”
See how huge provincial or the maple leaf flags aren’t flown? It’s not the Franco groups fault anymore, but yours, the public.
A Shame, really.
Rosie you need to stand with us at the next LFA protest.
When I worked at UCV outside of Morrisburg during my University summers we would have Quebecois complain everyday about the lack of French services offered from our costumed interpreters.
From the few dozen French from France that visited everyday I never heard a single complaint uttered from any of them.
Something I thought of this morning that made me go hymmmmmmmmm.
Now that is terrible flying the franco flag. That is almost as bad as the langauge on signs. Over my dead body, I am standing with yorlik on this one…..LMAO
Know what? Some of these english bloggers, and I say some, are truly funny. Yep now they are upset about a franco flag.
Not sure if any of you ever experienced a dog clinging to your leg. If not I will explain. When a dog does that, the more you shake your leg the more excited he gets and the harder he hangs on and the harder he hangs on, the more excited he gets. When reading SOME of these blogs…..that’s the vision that come to mind…….let up some and get a life!!!
Cory……the Hispanics would not have a problem and that is a fact. I lived in NYC for long periods of time and never was this type of BS evident. That nonsense only exist here because of a bunch who started stirring the sh#t for nothing and feel they can control everything……like in trouble makers.
So before saying anything…..make sure it is factual.
So you guys ‘claim’ you support freedom of expression but then state the most vile things about those flying the Franco Ontario flag. You guys obviously do not fight for freedom of expression you just attack French people and symbols. The Franco Ontario flag has been recognized by the legislature as a official flag. I hope more French fly it with pride because it is a positive symbol. Some people’s hearts are filled with hate. Right c.c.?
All customers pay the same fee for entrance..at UpperCanada Village customers have a reasonable expectation for service..I`ve heard some pretty nasty anglophones complain about service too!courtesy and politeness is expected from the workers.. UCV is the beacon of loyalist heritage MILLIONS of dollars to upkeep every year..and now Miedieval show.. !!! don`t see any francos picketing it though do ya? even though they were part of the history of the area too…or is that what you all want.. confrontations that divide Canadians,??
publish the 2 pamphlets. openly and let the general public decide if your message is credible..don`t ask for money or donations if you can`t publish your own words to back your cause. and stop pretending you don~t know what they are about.. the 2 pamphlets in their entirety are definitely the reason your ideas cannot gain respect …