OP ED by Jamie Gilcig – Should Claude McIntosh be Calling People Jerks? Waterfront Coverage VIDEO

OP ED by Jamie Gilcig –  Should Claude McIntosh be Calling People Jerks?  Waterfront Coverage VIDEO

CFN – I always find it interesting that different media outlets can be at the same event and have very different angles on a story.

Saturday Standard Free Holder Columnist and dean of  scribblers here in Cornwall Claude McIntosh penciled an column that was stunning on a multitude of levels.

First off he maligned two well respected members of the public; calling them “jerks”!   LINK

He of course was not present at the meeting; nor were any reporters from the Free Holder.   The only evidence of that session was video from CFN.

This first clip is the second half of a speech that suggests the committee resign.

It certainly was not rude and it did not single out any particular member of the committee.

Sadly, a couple of jerks decided to hijack the public consultation sessions at the civic complex to attack the integrity of waterfront development committee members, particularly Guy Menard and Roy Perkins, two civic-minded businessmen who have devoted countless hours to making this city a better place to live.

As you can see the crowd was supportive of the speaker and the moderator did not attack or moderate him.   While Pat Finucan tried to do some damage control and protect the committee what was he really protecting?  The crowd certainly did not respond to his request.  I won’t even bother with Councilor Grants ridiculous explanation.

Councilor Grant sitting with Protesting Little Leaguers

Again, while the first part of this speech is not in the clip at no time were Mr. Perkins or Menard mentioned by name.

A particularly mean-spirited attack was delivered by a local lawyer who accused Menard, a much respected second-generation builder, and Perkins, owner of the Rona store on Marleau Avenue and a Citizen of the Year Award recipient, of trying to cash in on a proposal to use parkland between the complex and marina for condo development.

The second so called “Jerk”  is in this clip below (advance to the 14:13 mark)

This scribbler finds it totally ironic that Mr.McIntosh is attacking these citizens of good standing in the exact manner he his accusing them of attacking Mr Perkins and Menard.  The only difference being that these two gentlemen did not do what Mr. MacIntosh claims nor were they….   “Jerks!”

Which begs the question as to where Mr. MacIntosh got his information?     His column is possibly actionable.   It’s a gross attack against people that care about their city and took the time to show up to a public meeting and spoke in a manner that drew a lot of applause from the crowd.

Do we really want to try and embarrass, humiliate, and bully people for simply speaking their opinions in this city?  Is this truly our society here in Cornwall and how we do things?   I should hope not.

Mr. MacIntosh has not responded to our call and email as of press time.

What do you think?  Is this sort of journalism acceptable?  Should people be maligned publicly in this manner without proper support; IE photos/video/ an actual reporter present?

You can post your comments below.

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Chris p
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Chris p

OMG someone please tell people to stop clapping and let people speak, didn’t your parents ever teach… better yet since they are all past 50 years old, didn’t you ever teach your kids not to interrupt people when they are speaking? mine mine mine mine mine mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-3e0EkvIEM

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Mare
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Mare

Excellent questions CFN. Anyone reading the columnist’s words might assume he was at the meeting. But that’s pure hogwash. He didn’t go and doesn’t disclose that minor fact. And you’re right, in an attempt to shield two people from allegations about conflict of interest, he ends up slandering another by calling him a jerk. Anyone reading the column would get the impression that two businessmen were attacked in a manner that could be accurately described as a bloodbath.

bigfellow
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Claude was being very soft in his literature,there are other words that came used, but, I’ll stop short here.
I cannot believe how a group of suppose-to-be intelligent people can be so blindfolded as to what charades is being played out in the city hall.
Have a nice day,folks.

Driving the Karma Bus
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Driving the Karma Bus

Claude McIntosh is just ranting because some of his sandbox friends got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

S Barr
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S Barr

Having witnessed first hand the meeting and listened to the gentlemen who have been name-called by Mr. McIntosh I think he should be charged with a bullying complaint. Both speakers at the meeting spoke their truth in a calm and rational manner and brought up principles which have moral and ethical implications worthy of putting this City on a whole new level of operation, founded in a governance that could be trusted, rather than what we have at present where the tail is wagging the dog. If Mr. McIntosh disagrees to the point of descending into a place which is… Read more »

Wow!
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Wow!

The funniest (most tragic?) line of the evening at the WC was, ” I can’t resist, I am a neutral party…”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hpp7H_PucE

mariah
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mariah

Guess Mac is just a has been who has lost all credibility & is still trying to stir the populace to his opinion .When you can’t state your objection without name calling & behaving like a bully then you do not really have a credible stance & people we see through him eventually.He also had to know that new top news reporter would be there & telling it like is,thanks CFN for informing us of the truth.Mac & Standard owe an opology

E.T. Bass
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E.T. Bass

The following is part of Mac’s quote (rant-tirade), where he attempts to stand up for his sand box buddies, at the public meeting. In doing so, he attempts to ridicule & bully two very eloquent individuals, by calling them names ! It shows just how disconnected, people can be from reality ! I was present Mac, you were not, neither was your paper ! Why, Mac, was your paper not present, covering a very big topic in our City ? Your paper spends more time, at a ribbon cutting ceremony, than the biggest issue in Cornwall. You would think, that… Read more »

luckyred
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luckyred

When will people learn that all Macintosh ever does is stick up for his buddys, whether there right or wrong.He,s allso a master at sugar coating and twisting and turning the truths around.

Stan
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Stan

I used to like reading Claude MacIintosh’ column in the newspaper. Over the past two weeks he has made some stupid statements in his column that are really controversial, two weeks ago about the mayor running again in the next election and last week about the waterfront boondoggle. Claude, what have you been smoking?

Brent Clementino
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Brent Clementino

Did Claude ever say he was at the meeting or was it simply an editorial?
In this case perhaps taken out of context by the free news

If you understand the meaning of editorial it is simply an opinion piece.

Believe Me
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Believe Me

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence and the facts already presented could only come to one conclusion and that is that a conflict of interest does or did exist on this 2011 waterfront com. They are as yet not willing to admit to any wrong doing, further it appears that this group have their heads stuck so deep in the sand no doubt in an effort to avoid having to discuss or answer for their survey which has already been compromised (by any person doing the survey more than once). I am not amused by the antics that have taken… Read more »

willie191
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willie191

Simply put, It is the Conservative and Sun Media, (standard-freeholder) way. They baffle you with BS, and most city residents believe everything they read in that rag. Get Involved folks with the political parties in SD&SG. Caution: it may disgust you.

les habitants
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les habitants

how can a coonflict of interest exist if the mandate to build and build and build on waterfront property is set by the very committee “in charge” of the waterfront? clearly the “committee ” is making their own rules and mandates in contavention of the vocal public outcry! so actually ,it is not conflict of interest if the committee makes up the rules because the committee s not contravening its own rules and mandate!! That is why some the public are crying foul ball..about this questionnable direction… where do they expect to get buyers for these overpriced apartments!! because that`s… Read more »

les habitants
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les habitants

but the ol scribbler Claude should not have called anyone jerks for strong opinions expressed on the matter.. the opinions expressed were valid and emotional yes because it is an emotional issue… calling people jerks in print because you don`t agree with the way some people react to this committee`s plans is not playing nice…granted the vocal anti build side is emotional because we in Cornwall have been steamrollered with huge projects before at taxpayers expense…there are other places along the waterline to build privately …that is the basic complaint the WC should be reviewing!!

E.T. Bass
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E.T. Bass

Hey Brent, Interesting comment you make ! Because of the way, the meetings were set, people were moving around quite a bit. I was present, and do not recall seeing Mac, as I would of said hello, but I realize, this is part of the point you are making. I do agree about an editorial, but Mac went out of his way, to label two gentlemen as “jerks” ! Furthermore, he went on to state, the names of the two members of the WC ! Those two members of the WC, were never mentioned personnaly, nor were they attacked personnaly,… Read more »

Neil Macmillan
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Neil Macmillan

Thank you very much for these comments, “Mr. Magoo” (whoever you are). As one of the “jerks” referred to by Claude McIntosh and an experienced news reporter in my own right (received several Canadian Farmwriters Assocation national awards back in the 1970s), this morning I called the Cornwall Standard-Freeholder’s editor, Brian Dryden, not to defend my comments, but to point out what I felt to be serious misrepresentation and mischaracterization of the Cornwall Waterfront Development Committee’s public meeting on the 12th of this month in Claude’s column. Although I have generally enjoyed reading Claude’s column as a mine of local… Read more »

bigfellow
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It’s OK Mr. Macmillan, everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. I do not know who you are and niether do I care, but, when you the find that green area has change to the ashphalt private area and the families have nowhere to go in the very near future, I hope you will feel good about the change of Cornwall.
Have a nice day.

Neil Macmillan
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Neil Macmillan

Thanks for the feedback, “bigfellow” but that’s certainly not my view, and I don’t see where I gave that impression. I share your apparent view that Lamoureux Park, as defined in the existing Cornwall Waterfront Plan, should remain as public green space for all the citizens of Cornwall, rich or poor.

bigfellow
Guest

Thank you for your reply, Mr. Macmillan, I really appreciate it, but, really after all this boondocking, has either sides won? Here we have the WC working hard at trying to please the city hall pers,( even though I personally feel they are puppets of someone/group in the city hall) and with bad enough trying to be involded in one piece of property to a be made a stink of it and then hearing that there is not one condo and then making a 360 degrees turn in given out a possibilities of info for more condos in ten years… Read more »

Neil Macmillan
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Neil Macmillan

Thanks for your comments, “bigfellow.” Clearly, you’re deeply concerned. Looking ahead, hopefully, everyone involved (both the decision-makers and the general populace) can come back to the table at an appropriate time with a renewed willingness to share information as fully and as transparently as possible and listen respectfully to each other. However, for that to happen, we have to develop more trust in the process – trust that is partly inherent because of the community’s respect for its duly constituted leadership and partly earned by the conduct of that leadership. Right now, there appears to be a danger that those… Read more »

Is This True ?
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Is This True ?

Cornwall is a beautiful City & has a Beautiful Waterfront & it will be safe as long as this Water Committee either resignes in mass or stands up & admits that they screwed up big time. The people of Cornwall have their number now. It’s our Water Front & we are going to protect it Are You With Me Taxpayers?

Driving the Karma Bus
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Driving the Karma Bus

There should be no question…..they should all resign, they all had a hand in being deceptive. Fool me once shame on you……fool me twice shame on me. They tried to pull a fast one and got caught, don’t give them a second chance to try and hide anything else.

jules
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jules

I read in Cornwall’s Freeholder that the waterfront lands belong to the First Nations (Mohawks) and that is very true. I have read this before and even lands from Cornwall all the way out to the 417 highway is all Indian land including the east and all the way to Long Sault (not just waterfront land but the whole thing). Whiteys do not own the land at all that they think that they own so give up. I am glad that the Mohawks are gone to Harpo on this matter. Leave the waterfront alone. I would agree with marinas for… Read more »

Is This True?
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Is This True?

Jules I respect your opinion but I disagree with your land ownership position I also take exception to your use of the word Whiteys, Canadian people shouldn’t ever be judged or classifed by the colour of their skin. I would respectfully suggest the reading of the Bicentennial Corporation book by Elinor Kyte Senior as she states a very different picture of Sir John Johnsons men & their arrival at Pointe Maligne & further of the involvement of Indian Chief Capt. Joseph Brant who was instrumental in making a settlement at that time. If that book of Corn. history is correct… Read more »

Stan
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Stan

Let’s face it, Claude McIntosh is the biggest jerk of all. On the jerk scale he is Capo di tutti di capi.

jules
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jules

I like Claude MacIntosh very much and find his stories very interesting. I have names for that waterfront committee that I cannot write about and what Claude said is mighty mild. I can say to everyone that the only thing that the Menards, Perkins, and others want are to sell their wood, have their builders build anything that can be sold or rented to feather their pockets. None of the people of Cornwall have any idea how valuable your parks are whether in Cornwall or its surrounding towns. You have a quiet place to live and enjoy recreation. This is… Read more »

jules
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jules

“Is It True” I am white myself and I do know that the natives (Indians) do own the land from Cornwall all the way to the 417 and that is the truth. The natives own a lot of the waterfront land and even my eldest sister leased a piece of land to put her trailor on their lot and it was on land out in the Lancaster area or somewhere like that. You are all so very lucky to have beautiful parks. There is a Canadian lady from Tornto who lives in Vermont and I was in contact with her… Read more »

Is This True?
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Is This True?

Jules You state on the land ownership that Natives (Indians) own all the land yet you so far haven’t even given any evidence to back that up. It seems your not alone with that opinion. It also seems quite clear to me that the natives are looking for another handout of taxpayers Dollars.If & when that comes about through a settlement It most certainly wont be the end of it as they will surely be after more.THATS JUST THE WAY THEY ARE. History tells us so.

bigfellow
Guest

I just looked – up the word “jerks” in google, I suggest you too, there are many variations of good and bad, to that word, unless the word has been used in a derogatory way and after reading the above statement, I don’t perceive it meant to be derogatory at all.
Therefore, no apologies are required.
Anyways, hopefully, this subject is closed, forever.