Anglophones told to get to back of Bus in Cornwall Ontario LFA Protests French Health Clinic – by Don Smith

Anglophones told to get to back of Bus in Cornwall Ontario LFA Protests French Health Clinic – by Don Smith

CFN-Earlier today members of the local Language Fairness for All – LFA group were joined by members of the Ottawa area Canadians for Language Fairness – CLF umbrella group in front of Cornwall’s taxpayer-funded French-only medical clinic.

In late May the groups converged in Chesterville, catching James Moore, Minister of Canadian Heritage and Official Languages, quite off-guard.  We covered that story.  That day some members carried a makeshift coffin decrying the (near) death of democracy in Canada.  Today they were sporting a cardboard bus and shouting:  “Back of the bus, English; know your place.”  The groups are drawing attention to the apparent lack of fairness in current language laws, their interpretation and heavy public funding of minority language groups outside of the province of Quebec.  Today, they were specifically pointing out the disparity in funding and access to service, whereby hospitals and clinics are being pushed to be 100% bilingual or French-only, while English-only is no longer an option.

In our video clip you’ll see and hear their demonstration as well as hear from some participants, including a few newcomers.

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590 Responses to "Anglophones told to get to back of Bus in Cornwall Ontario LFA Protests French Health Clinic – by Don Smith"

  1. stellabystarlight   July 23, 2012 at 10:00 AM

    Cory…….LMAO……You make me laugh…..OMG this is too funny. As for the “Works of Karl Marx” Who are you trying to impress? This discussion is not about religion. Quit patronizing me!! Not surprising you would choose a quote from Kark Marx………..a communist.

    Eric………if the jobs ads ask for both official languages, what that indicates to me is that there is a need for bilingual people to serve the french population.

    Eric….if you and the Galganovs and Beth Trudeaus of the world would have your way, french would be wiped off the face of the earth. Example for the 501th time…..the french clinic. Why in H#LL should that bother ANYONE……get a life man. NOTHING BUT JEALOUSY!!! Like I said earlier………AT THIS POINT WE MUST AGREE TO DISAGRE PERIOD!!!!!! LET IT GO AND DO YOUR OWN LITTLE THING AND LEAVE US ALONE. But let me say this…………French is here to stay……..that you can take to the bank!!!! *Smile*

  2. Cory Cameron   July 23, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Not trying to impress anyone Stella. But again you’ve brought personal issues into this argument…

  3. Cory Cameron   July 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    Stella you wrote

    “Cory….for the 500th time, AGAIN I SAY, what makes you and your group think you have the right to dictate to any organization the criteria of their hiring policies? If being french is a requirement then you must be french in order to be qualified. If one only has nursing experience but doesn’t speak french……..they do not meet the criteria expected by the organization. Nothing complicated about that. Cory…….you are right when you say it is so simplistic it doesn’t warrant debate. WOW right on!!!”

    To the above comment; is it OK to dictate what employment a person of English speaking is permitted and not permitted to have when you have a person that has been working in this field for many years? I prefer to have someone with experience that only speaks English. That is Dictating people’s dream carreer. Is that right? What you are saying is that you can only have a career if you are bilingual.

  4. oppresion2   July 23, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Stella

    How does discrimination,segregation & job inequality equal to jealousy?
    Secondly,the majority will gladly leave you alone if you stopped blogging!
    Lastly-no one wants French to go AWAY-that is your warped perception!
    *smile* to you too!!

  5. Cory Cameron   July 23, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    I’m not sure why Stella continually adds her smile as a sign off to her blogging…

    Is it meant as a precursor to further annoyance with those that disagree with her?

    Is it meant as an invite to further disagreements?

    or

    is it meant as an honest-to-goodness pleasantry?

  6. stellabystarlight   July 23, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    This is for Oppression who is very oppressed and who is looking to get over his oppression and to all others that are oppressed out there **s**

    Before your french friends took a stand and started to share their views on the language debate, you were one happy family, the bashing and name calling never stopped. It was fun back then, everyone had the same point of view. Suddenly when french speaking people started to share their views all hell broke loose. WHY?

    It is all not alright to have different points of views? Again, WHY do you get so defensive and accusatory? Until the adm. denies or deletes comments or gives restrictions on the amount of postings one is allowed……..no one else has the authority to tell anyone else what to say or do. **s**

    So……..let’s just say we agree to disagree and drop it. Of course if any of the oppressed that are trying to get over their oppression post an unfair comment……..we will respond……Ca vas??

    Bonne journee a tous soyez heureux!!!!!

  7. bella-b   July 23, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    and the dance goes on!

    twist, turn, shuffle, avoid.

  8. Eric   July 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    stella, this is not personal and most certainly not jealousy. I am now leaning towards a full audit as ( I read more on the subject) towards where the money is going , how much and how cost effective the whole Official Languages Act & Ontario French Language Services Act are versus actual need!

    Taking money from the French school board to supply Franco Ontario flags at the Cornwall monument, taking money from the health budget to bribe the hospital institutions to accept the FLSA, the Hawkesbury hospital being a sponsor (money, services?) to the Ottawa Franco Ontario festival instead of keeping it for health care services, should give Joe, Jean and Ahmad room for thought.

    Again this is not personal, we need to sit back for a minute and reasses the needs compared to just wants.

  9. Cory Cameron   July 23, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Unless you’re a translator, of which the job itself would require you to be advanced in the writing, reading and speaking of a language, why the need for this advanced French in all other jobs deemed bilingual?

    Is not the job itself more important than the language in which it is completed? Which just happens to be the majority?

    Even in communist Cuba, diplomats and those working in the tourist industries are considered bilingual or even have the knowledge of third, fourth or fifth languages. Most Cubans actually have knowledge of at least two. I’ve hinted in an earlier posting how this is accomplished.

    Guess what though, it’s not legislated. As a matter of fact, there isn’t a single language legislated in socialist Cuba!

    And they have more success than we do with language policies – with a lot less money going towards this issue.
    I guess we can learn a thing or two from that tiny island off the Florida coast!

  10. Julie Bouchard Cameron   July 23, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Stella you wrote

    “Before your french friends took a stand and started to share their views on the language debate, you were one happy family, the bashing and name calling never stopped. It was fun back then, everyone had the same point of view. Suddenly when french speaking people started to share their views all hell broke loose. WHY?”

    I am French and I realize that it is not me that is causing the issue. I am with this one big happy family. Your problem is with people protesting against French only services; however you’ve highlighted that you think all nurses should be bilingual and that is of itself an injustice. So, you support French only health clinics but expect all nurses to be bilingual?

    The supporters of LFA just wanted to have health services available to everyone; not just a French minority. Hell was not broken loose by me, it was created by STRONG comments from people afraid of losing “their” rights. Rights that should be there for everyone and not just a select group of people.

    Stella you still did not answer Cory’s question:

    To the above comment; is it OK to dictate what employment a person of English speaking is permitted and not permitted to have when you have a person that has been working in this field for many years?

    I would like to have your point of view on this. What is your thought on dictating where someone can and can’t work?

  11. silent majority 2   July 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    WOW-the message is getting out there -people are talking and that is to benefit society .
    This issue is akin to a family secret -everyone knows it exists -but no-one is willing to talk about it .

    PEOPLE -you do have a voice -you do matter …..so please talk about the issue rather then Hide the family secret!

    People would you prefer someone else to speak for you ?
    If so! how else do you think we got into this situation ?
    Just because you say nothing its assumed by Government that you agree with theses policies !

    Stand up and be proud Canadians it is your right to speak up !

  12. stellabystarlight   July 26, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    ROFLMAO!!! OMG……..dream on woman!!! The word is certainly getting out there……..like you wouldn’t believe!!!! The word is “RIDICULOUS” is what I’ve been hearing and trust me I am not alone

  13. Highlander   July 26, 2012 at 7:40 PM

    ah -stella misguided anger -don’t blame us for your issues ?
    You need not look far in how others look at the issue simply look at the blogs -They would be representative of the community!

    Your tainted goods- you have proven in your own statements that you are very….in polite terms -bias to other cultures.

    You need to accept that you are ethnocentric -it’s alright -just repeat ETHNOCENTRIC-its easy once you say it …isn’t it?

  14. Julie Bouchard Cameron   July 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    Stella you are still avoiding our questions. I would like for you to answer the questions on my post dated July 23/12. Is it because you know I am right!!!!!!

    One of these days you will cave and answer my question…one of these days.

  15. stellabystarlight   July 27, 2012 at 8:40 AM

    JBC if your questions made sense I would answer……no probelm there. First of all……..could you please show me the post where I said all nurses had to be bilingual….then maybe I would take the time to answer your question. This is probably the same scenario as always where one assumes and contorts the message to suit their needs. Let me know when you find that post.

  16. Cory Cameron   July 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    Stella,

    There are only two options here.

    Either A) You are retired and have all of this time to pester us?

    Or B) You work for the government which is akin to being retired and have all the time to pester us.

    Back to work dearheart!

  17. Highlander   July 27, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    “Survey says:Franchophone language,culture dwindling across the region
    ACFO (l’Association canadienne-francaise de l’Ontarrio ) wants to take steps to bring franchophones to Prescott-Russell,encourage growth of French services”

    The Review-Wednesday, June 13,2012
    by Lianne Lahaie llahaie@the review.ca

    So the question is why do we financially support this dwindling language with our tax dollars?
    Sounds like they’ll be busing them in from Quebec to live in Prescott-Russell!

    ETHNOCENTRISM!!!

  18. stellabystarlight   July 27, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Wondering if they are going to use the LFA bus?

  19. Cory Cameron   July 27, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    No, probably the Richelieu Club buses funded by taxpayers to fight themselves 🙁

    Bon soir Stella,

    Tete Carre

  20. Julie Bouchard Cameron   July 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    Stella you wrote:

    “Eric………if the jobs ads ask for both official languages, what that indicates to me is that there is a need for bilingual people to serve the french population. ”

    This statement proves that you agree that ANY, and I mean ANY jobs listed as bilingual should only be given to bilingual people. HELLO Stella that is saying that it should only be bilingual people getting these jobs. This statement is just the first one that I found in the first page of comments.

    To me, my questions make sense. If you have difficulty reading English you may want to take courses to learn to read English. I do realize that you have not answered most of my questions and are avoiding most that I ask.

  21. Highlander   July 28, 2012 at 8:33 AM

    Ah…we are the 17% francophone ….you will be assimilated ….our ethnocentric group will not be very welcoming to other cultures unless you are assimilated .
    We Demand that you respect where not warranted french service be provided whether it be in Newfoundland with 0.4% pop or as high as BC with 4% pop.
    In fact as a government worker I have a right to be supervised in my own language- Therefore my supervisor requests assimilation as well.

    I demand as well from private companies that they provide service in french -where numbers do not warrant!

    God forbid you do not speak french at post office in Pakenham-I will complain and my one voice will remove you from the post you held for 12 years .

    I will complain about a greatly respected commissionaire who has worked at his post for years that he does not speak french “well enough ” and my one voice will have him removed !

    I will complain that I did not receive my pop that I requested on Air Canada and sue the airline because the steward did not speak french “well enough “,
    but yet I am a Fed Gov employee -looking to push for my rights !

    I am a Francohone who is an Anglophobe -I demand to be heard .
    You will be assimilated!

  22. Patrick Boucher   July 28, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    Julie, you had a problem with the following statement :
    This statement proves that you agree that ANY, and I mean ANY jobs listed as bilingual should only be given to bilingual people. HELLO Stella that is saying that it should only be bilingual people getting these jobs. DAH!!!. Je ne pense pas que julie a écrit cela…c’est probablement cory, ça sonne tellement stupide.!!

  23. Cory Cameron   July 28, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    Don’t accuse me Patrick of writing something my wife has written. You have no integrity.

    Why don’t I accuse Stella then of writing your above comment. See what I mean?

    Go away and write another useless proposal to help your cause. Leave me alone.

  24. Julie Bouchard Cameron   July 28, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    I do have an issue with this statement. Jobs should be open as an equal opportunity to every person. From Nursing, to banking, to flight stewardess. Everybody should have the ability to see their dream through. You do not have to speak French to serve a good portion of the population. If you put your French ignorance aside, people like you could work together with English people and have a workplace that could serve both French and English. I am proud to be French and I work well with all my colleagues. Some of the staff members where I work can only speak English and it is my pleasure to help clients that speak French. It’s proof of teamwork to have both French and English speaking people working alongside one-another. What you are creating is a ‘Barrier’ which will make it impossible for all of us to work TOGETHER.

    Patrick your comment toward my husband…I have one thing to tell you! GROW UP. It was me who wrote the comment and not my husband. Jobs should be open to anybody in the population and not a select few!

  25. Cory Cameron   July 28, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Patrick, your separatist father should have taught you something of dignity…

    Tell me, did he serve in the land of his ancestors to stop Nazi invaders from taking over their lands…

    Or was he one of those draft dodger types that couldn’t be bothered to sign up for service in WWII.

    To say that you hit a nerve with your last post is quite an understatement for me. Son, you are no better than the gum on the bottom of my shoes. I have to say that the best part of you ran down your daddy’s leg about twenty-some years ago.

  26. Cory Cameron   July 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Patrick,

    The most frightening thing about your image is that whether you acknowedge, or even have realized it, you are empowered to say the least. You have caused a young woman to lose her job at Costco. Probably the only job she’ll ever get because she’s not French speaking.

    What I find even more shocking is the fact that you and your types walk around this country and demand the earth – what’s even more troubling is more often than not your accomodated. I’m not sure what’s worse – you making incessant demands or the state appeasing you. But you’ve shown your cards, man. People are waking up to this type of bullying behaviour. It won’t be long until you will no longer have the power to make someone lose their job. I can’t wait for that day.

  27. Patrick Boucher   July 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Well my father is 52, he hasnt served in the military,but my grandfather did. My comments aren’t useless, they are logical thoughts that could be true. I don’t know you..and I still think that you write your ¨wife s¨comments. I might be wrong…like I said before, I have been wrong once or twice in my 26 years on this earth.
    Je trouve cela dommage que tu prends les commentaires d’un étranger si personnel. J’ai appris que la vérité n’est pas toujours bonne à dire. But to go to the point of saying ¨ the best part of you ran down your daddy’s leg about twenty-some years ago¨..too infantile, sounds like a the remark of a 12 year old that couldnt come up with an intelligent rebuttal….but think of this, if my comments hit a nerve…then I might be partially right.

  28. Julie Bouchard Cameron   July 28, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    Believe what you want to believe. I am the one that writes my own comments. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone. I could easily use an alias and I don’t. Have a great night Patrick!

  29. Cory Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 6:54 AM

    Patrick wrote:

    “….but think of this, if my comments hit a nerve…then I might be partially right.”

    Again you’re absolutely right Patrick. As far as I can tell, since I’ve been reading your comments, you’ve done nothing but hit nerves. It’s as if to say that you find all of this amusing. Your comments are tailor made to do nothing but anger, divide and totally confound the individual(s) to which you address…

    I digress though, you got to me last night. And I know in your evil persona you are sitting there right now reading this with a Cheshire cat grin to your face. The first time and the last. I won’t allow again someone to anger me on this forum. So keep on doing what you do best. Stand up and be proud and convince all of us of how much of a bully you are Patrick. Because there is a young lady now without a job because of you. If you have any humanity left in you, you’ll have some remorse.

    I don’t like you and your kind. And it has nothing to do with language.

  30. stellabystarlight   July 29, 2012 at 7:44 AM

    First of all JBC…….I asked you to SHOW ME THE POST where I wrote that. I refuse to answer questions that don’t make sense and I also want to be able to read the posts that were posted prior to mine. Got that? Don’t ever think yourself better and never think you stumped someone with the same repetitive questions that have been answered 500 times before……..CAPISH???

    But I will ask you this for the 502 time because it was never answered? What gives your group the right to dictate on how an organization should hire and the criteria needed to fill a position. READ MY LIPS……NO RIGHT NOR AUTHORITY!!! Got that?? You may think you have, but your letters to the UN and to the editors of the newspapers just won’t cut it LOL I also suggested the Vatican…..thinking the Pope may be able to help your cause. Just trying to help **smile**

    SO……if a job posting says I need to be able to do cartwheels while eating a hotdog without dropping any condiments and able to speak english only……..but I can’t do the hotdog thing, would it be wise of me to apply? I’ll give you the answer….NO. Period because I am not qualified……GOT that?

  31. stellabystarlight   July 29, 2012 at 8:13 AM

    Another thing before I head outdoors on this beautiful Sunday.

    JBC & Cory………how juvenile!! Saying what you did to Patrick speaks volumes about your integrity and intelligence. You are showing your true colors now and let me tell you, it doesn’t paint a pretty picture.

    stellabystarlight………B. SC. C. **smile**

  32. Cory Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 8:16 AM

    My letter to the UN!!!!

    Not my wife’s letter!…

    Got that?!

    What’s next…Stella?

    I’m still waiting for you to write your letter to the editor detailing how you would like to have all of the English shipped off in trains out to the western provinces…

    It would make things much easier for you, wouldn’t it?

    It’s simple. A blind man could read it. You’re anti-English. Know what I am? I am anti-discriminatory! You can’t call me anti-French though, can you? I married a French woman, can read, write and speak French. But not as well as someone like yourself who attended a French school and where that very school received more funding then it’s English counterpart. Nope, I’m not providing the link for that, that’s your homework for this fine Sunday. Did you get to Church yet?

  33. Julie Bouchard Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM

    Now now Stella you do not have to get mad and use capitalized letters.

    To your question Stella,

    “What gives your group the right to dictate on how an organization should hire and the criteria needed to fill a position.”

    Fairness in the opportunity for everyone to follow their dreams. We are not saying to hire just bilingual people Stella. We want to make sure that everyone has fairness on having an opportunity to have a career. As to you and me it may not be an issue, but did we have to pass an English test to have our positions? We did not have to prove to employers that we had the capabilities of speaking or writing English. What gives you the right to say it is OK to hire only bilingual people? You are happy that “this” injustice exists because you will not have any issues finding full time employment in your field of work. If you can’t understand what our group is trying to accomplish that’s fine because you will never understand, due to the fact that you will never experience this unjustice. For the 1000th time that my group has told you. Would you not like to be served by someone that has many years of experience, instead of being helped by someone that speaks French? Medically speaking, I rather take my French out and get served by someone that has the experience. Maybe I should go to Church today and pray for you to see the light on this injustice!

    Fairness for ALL!!!!

  34. Mike Bedard   July 29, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Wow, when the leader of a group makes it PERSONAL! Which is what this was from the start, you are destined for failure!

    Although the group had a valid issue with the Cornwall Community Hospitals hiring policy, they were led by those with personal agendas and have now begun to look as foolish as the seperatist in Quebec!

    It is saddening but this group is officially dug its own hole! Which I am not applauding but rather I am a little disheartened because something GOOD could of come from this rather than it become Cornwall’s most recent crab fest!

  35. Highlander   July 29, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Oh stella my dear, you dear ETHNOCENTRIC-you are tainted goods.
    You admitted that you are …..not friendly to muslims and are very uncomfortable in a city that is the most multicultural in the world because of those various cultures in NY.
    I will not start calling you as others in your group have to chris cameron a kkk or the many other racist comments -I just want to see job fairness and equity .

    Stella you need to look in the mirror and be accepting of yourself ,having many cultures only enriches the fabric of our fine society.
    No matter of your ETHNOCENTRIC values you need to accept that Canada is becoming more diverse daily ,and embrace that no ONE culture defines CANADA.

    Patrick -wow man .Your father would never serve for Canada because he is a separatist -therefore does not believe that Canada is his country .

    Sad part of this is I wonder what your grandfather would have thought of this -being is he did serve his country and anyone who does so are the most patriotic -I would say divided-so was your grandfather proud of his son being a separatist?

    The proudest Canadian is the one willing to put their life on the line for their country .

    Now daddy’s little boy-you must realize that its the loved ones that teach discrimination /racial bias -its starts young and its ingrained and the ones that practice it see no wrong in it for this !

    I will always be excepting of other cultures much to learn ….I will never consider myself a DISTINCT society among the many in Canada for that breeds ETHNOCENTRISM .

    I do believe that all peoples should have equal job opportunities -clearly your group does not ….I ask why? why should one culture among the many have more rights ? You would consider that fair?

    Lets be Canadian -among the world that means fairness -so lets see it in our own country!

  36. Lolochuck   July 29, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Ha! Ha! Ha! Cory you are too funny!!! Sad part is Stella doesn’t get how ridiculous she makes herself look on here!

    ANTI-DISCRIMINATORY IS CORRECT!!!

    Language Fairness for all folk……how can one argue with that?

  37. Highlander   July 29, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Stell I will answer your question
    “What gives your group the right to dictate on how an organization should hire and the criteria need to fill a position?”

    It would be the same as the hundreds of francophone rights groups advocating for francophone hires -with exception that those francophone rights groups ARE sponsored by taxes !

    The group represents concerned citizens who Advocate not just for one linguistic group but for all -hence language fairness for all .
    Job equity and representation by population!

    Francophone rights groups -I guess they represent all when the advocate gov for positions right?

    ETHNOCENTRISM -that the mandate of these francophone rights groups!
    YOU WILL ASSIMILATE

  38. Highlander   July 29, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Hi Mike

    The group may look as foolish as the separatist in Quebec -but now the separatist is becoming a viable option in Quebec.
    The issue of the hiring at Cornwall community hospital is but the tip of the proverbial iceberg .
    This bias in hiring is systemic through Ontario as well as Canada .

    We advocate for fair hiring -if it has become Cornwall’s crab fest great the whole point is to get people talking and allow people to ask themselves as well as society -why in a fair and just society do we permit unjust hiring practices as well as segregation as in the french only clinic?
    Job fairness and equity should be for all persons !

  39. Cory Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Stella,

    You’ve posted before how you would pray for us. But I have a favour to ask of you. Kindly do not pray for me. I have no faith in organized religion. Many wars have religion as the primary catalyst for their existence which have led to millions of deaths. Remember the Crusades?

    I would much rather put my faith in something of substance. For instance, my heroes include Yuri Gagarin, Valentina Tereshkova, Ernesto Guevara. Do not ask me to believe in a god that I cannot taste, feel, hear, see, smell nor sense. I am not one to take part in a willing suspension of disbelief.

    ‘I looked and looked but I didn’t see God.’
    Yuri Gagarin

  40. concerned citizen 2   July 29, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    Cornwall:

    50%-bilingual hospital -for 21% of the community.
    70% courts bilingual -for 21 % of the community .
    66% min federal jobs -for 21% of the community.
    100% health unit bilingual -for 21% of the community.
    100% border Guards bilingual -21% of the community.
    the list goes on and on and on.
    so explain why francophone’ s are soooo over represented?

    why does the staff at Banff park-need to be bilingual?
    Many questions society wants to know ?

    Madam Periard of the board of Dir was asked a simple question at united counties:
    where does the applicants get testing for french -new avenues in Ottawa .
    Where does the English testing happen? -Well she said the manager tests then during the interview!

    So the French testing is done by a professional yet the English is not -no further explanation from the hospital!

    I guess their are two different sets of standards with regards to language ,

    The hospital is just playing politics -they should stick to providing health care as apposed to applying a political agenda for monetary benefit that clearly discriminates against its community of the remaining 79%.

  41. Cory Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Stella, Stella, Stella you wrote

    “JBC & Cory………how juvenile!! Saying what you did to Patrick speaks volumes about your integrity and intelligence. You are showing your true colors now and let me tell you, it doesn’t paint a pretty picture. ”

    The funny thing is I was just telling the truth, you may think that my comment was JUVENILE but the truth is I never insulted anyone and never called anyone names. Can you tell me how I was juvenile? Can you? Stop lumping all of us when addressing us! We’re individuals!

  42. Christopher Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Hi Mike ,best wishes to you .

    I have one question should the proctologist work on my heart just for the fact the he speaks a second language ?

    There is a reason specialties exist ,Merit should always take precedence .

    If I had not been the best candidate for the job -I would not be out there being an activist.

    The hospital’s decision was not in the interest of the patient first, but for additional funding to enforce a political policy!

    I am obligated to advocate on the patients behalf in their best interest.

    Therefore it was not in the patients best interest for the hospital to hire an individual with no skill sets or experience when a specialist was available .

    So the questions are: why would the hospital hire someone with no experience when one was available ? Was this in the best interest of those patients ?
    Should the tax payer have footed the cost of $15000 to train that individual when one was trained and CERTIFIED by exam for that field?

    Yes discrimination is very personal .

    I am not just advocating for myself but as well as those patients and many staff who are unable to speak up in fear of repercussion.

    Take care my fellow Canadians

  43. Patrick Boucher   July 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    The groupe langagefairyness for all wants to make it ok for canadians to speak one language. And it is!! But it neglects one very important point, minorities. Languagefairyness is an organization that is anti french. Their leader can speak french but choses not to…and her right hand man, mr galganov speaks perfect french and is calling himself a francophobe. Languagefairyness wants the majority to dictate what the minority should do, say and how they should live their lives. They should change their names to languagefairyness for anglos…suits them much better.

  44. Cory Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Stella you wrote:

    ““What gives your group the right to dictate on how an organization should hire and the criteria need to fill a position?”

    Well, it doesn’t, right? You asked Julie a rhetorical question but albeit brought up a relevant point that you haven’t realized.

    Taxpayers as a whole dictate how an organization should hire and the criteria needed to fill a position. (or at least they should whenever that organization is a government entity) I can tell you that the community wasn’t consulted when the CCH formulated its policies. Want to know how I know? Because Boards of Directors do so, that’s why.

    When a team is stacked (like a hockey team) guess which team will come out on top? Of course you already know that, being that you’ve always been on the winning team, right Stella?

    You once commented that hard work and determination got you to where you are today. You sure it’s not because you’re French? I’m sure it helped. Well, to me, these words that once held so much weight for me are now nothing but buzzwords and verbal spaghetti in Canada’s so-called democracy. We aren’t ruled by the majority. We are ruled by special interest groups that lobby government.

    What are you going to do; how will you survive Stella when birthright is no longer a determining factor in one’s success in Canada but merit alone?

    Make Canada a Republic!!!!

  45. Highlander   July 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    Patrick-fairness for all -not just one minority of which your Ethnocentric followers do not agree .
    So you do not believe in fair hiring for all?
    This issue is not anti french -this issue is fair hiring simple as that .

    Your group is making it an anti french thing of which it is not!
    Justify why representation by population is wrong -LFA has never said abolish french language -the only reference to that is your group and their misinformation -propaganda if you may .

    So Patrick do you not believe that people should be hired first for merit?look up merit !
    If not please explain why?

    Do you not believe in our society all people should be treated equally with hiring?
    why not?
    So patrick you would have a minority dictate what the majority do?-that’s what you said!democracy is decisions made for the majority of the population -Canada is not a democracy!!!

    WOW HOW ETHNOCENTRIC YOU ARE !!!
    YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED is what you mean!

  46. Patrick Boucher   July 29, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    Nope, I don’t want to be assimilated, chances are my grandkids my greatgrandkids will be. Le français va être une langue morte. I don’t think that the majority should act like dictators…proportional representation is ok …but still guarantee rights..such as being served in french or in english in 25 regions throughout ontario… not too much to ask for. Your just repeating what languagefairyness says…that you can’t get fair employment if your unilingual..and you can… If languagefairyness had their way, every franco ontarien and franco québecer would be bilingual. (And most are) Its frustrating that beth trudeau and howard galganov can have the luxury of choosing not to be bilingual…and us sane people chose not to go by that logic.

  47. Patrick Boucher   July 29, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    they chose not be bilingual although they say they are… so who’s being fair here ?

  48. stellabystarlight   July 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Patrick.je ne pense pas que la langue francaise vas disparaitre…….it’s wishful thinking on their part……..NOT going to happen **s** French is recognized around the world!!!! We don’t have to go back that far…..the olympic games opening ceremonies were in both official languages FRENCH and english with announcements in french first………in LONDON ENGLAND no less **s**

    As for all the questions from the peanut gallery……we’ve answered them a 1000 times or more. If it can’t sink in, nothing we can do and it really isn’t our problem **s**

    One thing I must share with you all is this: You can fantasize all you want and dream all you want but let me say this. You are fooling no one but yourselves. Yep the entire world is behind you guys…….if you believe that, good for you…..lol The ones who yell the loudest are not necessarily the strongest…….they are the ones who fear the most.

    “Nobody will ever be as tough on you as you are on yourself” Keep that in mind, it may dawn on you someday and you will remember my words of wisdom and want to thank me……..LMAO

  49. Julie Bouchard Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    This was my comment and not Cory’s

    Stella, Stella, Stella you wrote

    “JBC & Cory………how juvenile!! Saying what you did to Patrick speaks volumes about your integrity and intelligence. You are showing your true colors now and let me tell you, it doesn’t paint a pretty picture. ”

    The funny thing is I was just telling the truth, you may think that my comment was JUVENILE but the truth is I never insulted anyone and never called anyone names. Can you tell me how I was juvenile? Can you? Stop lumping all of us when addressing us! We’re individuals!

    Stella address me by Julie and not JBC. I do have a first name. Use it!

    Patrick I have some questions for you. Is it OK to determine what a carreer path people could have, because they only speak English? If you have to see a specialist, like an Internist or Cardiologist, would you demand someone that could speak to you in French? Patrick tell me that if you go to a restaurant and ask a waitress to take your order; are you going to demand to speak to a waitress that is French? Come on man that is the reason why some French people have a bad reputation. It is because of you!!!! So what jobs can English speaking people have?

    P.S. Patrick I do not write my post in French so English speaking people could read what I write.

  50. Cory Cameron   July 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    Patrick you wrote:

    If languagefairyness had their way, every franco ontarien and franco québecer would be bilingual.”

    You couldn’t be more wrong. If I had my way, I would never had learned French. I was sent to an immersion school that I never requested to go to because my mother thought that I should learn her mother tongue…what a backwards thought process!

    We don’t care what any (not alone every) franco ontarien and franco quebecer is bilingual or not. We do care, however, how language is forced down our own throats! And, even as you admit, in order to work in a career you need to speak, read and write French – never mind another language that would mean you’re bilingual.

    In Canada, when one hears the term bilingual, we automatically think French and English. In every other part of the world, when one hears bilingual, it simply means the knowledge of two languages. You have to clarify what languages the person has knowledge of.

    Stop pressuring us to learn your French language under the guise of colourful reasoning. Why not learn another language instead of Francais? We don’t want, nor need it! English speaking Canadians – you don’t have to continuously pander to these people! Stop sending your kids to French immersion or all French schools just to appeal to a minority with the intended goal of said action is to give your children a better chance at a career!

    Stella and Patrick – did you know this? That one of the only reasons why English parents send their kids to French school is so that they’ll have a better chance of a career? Do you not see the madness in that? It’s called appeasement for a minority!

    But alas, right, even when kids graduate fully bilingual, it still stands to reason that they’re not pure leine.

    Make Canada a Republic!

    “Let me say, at the risk of seeming ridiculous, that the true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love.” Che Guevara

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