CFN – If you ask people what is one of the most repellent facets of Quebec politics they’ll tell you it’s the Language laws, especially pertaining to business.
Businesses already are burdened by the norms of competition and government red tape and brutal taxation.
Recently Quebec style politics have been creeping outside their borders and it seems that ground zero is Eastern Ontario. Ontario is not a bilingual province, but that hasn’t stopped townships like Russell from creating laws that dictate what businesses can have on their signs.
The Cornwall Community Hospital Nurse protest over Bilingual hiring policies have grown to the point where the group behind it has been able to meet with Federal Minister James Moore recently.
While certain groups are alleging racism and linguistic intolerance, others face the reality of their children being forced to move to where they can get jobs without stringent demands of French at levels not matched by English requirements for Francophones.
While most don’t question the right for service in French others suggest that perhaps 100% of staff not be required to be function at high levels as a solution especially when schools are not turning turning out graduates at those expected levels.
Many feel that the majority should not have to accommodate to the point where fiscal survival and advancement are put at stake.
Which leads us to the South Stormont City Council meeting Wednesday September 26, 2012 at 7 PM where language rights activist will be presenting a proposal that council is expected to embrace clearly stating that South Stomont will respect the Canadian Charter of Rights and decree that businesses can put whatever language they wish on their signs.
It’s potentially a drawing a line in the sand; something many Canadians have suggested is long in coming.
A large crowd is expected and should be interesting to see how Mayor Bryan McGillis and his council respond.
Mayor McGillis did offer the following to CFN:
Why would anyone oppose the administration of the Canadian Charter of Rights & Freedoms when it comes to language?
South Stormont Council Chambers (next to the Long Sault O.P.P. station) at 2 Mille Roches Road. The meeting will begin promptly at 7 p.m.
To contact the township and their elected officials we are providing their contact info below.
Township office: 613-534-8889
Mayor Bryan McGillis: 613-937-3116 or 613-577-0753 or mayor@southstormont.ca
Deputy Mayor Tammy Hart: 613-984-2543 or tammy.farms@xplornet.com
Councillor Barry Brownlee: 613-537-9753
Councillor Richard Waldroff: 613-537-8226 or 613-362-7596 or rwaldroff@bell.net
Councillor Cindy Woods: 613-537-2977 or cindy_woods@xplornet.com
So exciting to make history in our own back yard,finally elected officials who really do listen to their voters & have the gonads to act upon the freedom of speech protection
I am from New Brunswick (little kebec). I am tired of paying for forced bilingualism in this country. The people of this country did not vote on bilingualism it was imposed by a government. I thought Canada was a democracy? The government has had over 40 years to implement the learning of the french language in Anglo schools and failed.
This 2008 study “New Brunswick students are educated, only 28 of 55,000 students reached the provincial standard of intermediate, oral proficiency in French last year— a rate of 0.68 per cent.” Research shows that of the roughly 1,500 kids who started in early immersion in 1995, 91 per cent dropped out of the program by the time they reached high school, if 91 per cent of the children in the program are not reaching the provincial attainment level, one might question whether it is suitable for all children in New Brunswick.”
Only two provinces in this great country have a french population of over 5% Kebec and NB. How can this government and country continue to pay for something that does not work. Bilingualism should be ones choice and learned in a post secondary educational institution and not forced on the majority English Canada.
If anyone on Council has concers of not passing ” that South Stomont will respect the Canadian Charter of Rights and decree that businesses can put whatever language they wish on their signs”, please review # 84 of a recent Ontario Appeals Court decision. http://www.ontariocourts.ca/decisions/2012/2012ONCA0409.htm
It clearly says that YOUR and OUR Charter of Rights and Freedoms means less than protecting a minority language. How does that make you feel?
How did we ever get to a state where a few UNELECTED people in a court can make decisions of this magnatude that affects people, communities and taxation the way it does?
Language Fairness for ALL – LFA
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The Corporation of the Township of South Stormont
2 Mille Roches Road,
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To Council Members of South Stormont:
This Wednesday September 26, 2012, a private citizen by the name of Howard Galganov will present to the South Stormont Council Chambers, a Motion asking that Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms be upheld in South Stormont, specifically those protecting Section 2b outlining Freedom of Expression.
For the past year, our organization Language Fairness for All (LFA) has been advocating for Language Fairness in Canada – specifically fair hiring policies that adhere to representation by population. Our founding Board of Directors and it’s membership have written to representatives of all levels of the Canadian government asking for fair hiring practices. To date, we have received much media coverage and have met with a number of politicians asking that true fairness be considered with regards to issues being affected by language discrimination here in Canada.
Russell Township, Moncton, New Brunswick and Cornwall, Ontario are but a few places where citizenry of Canada are being negatively impacted by gross mismanaged hiring policies stemming from a direct result of implementing unfair laws such as those found in the Official Languages Act (OLA), French Language Services Act (FLSA) and the infamous Bill 101 in the province of Quebec.
On behalf of the Board of Directors of LFA and it’s membership, we wholeheartedly support Mr. Galganov’s Motion as presented to South Stormont Council Chambers.
Yours in Language Fairness,
Board of Directors and Membership
Language Fairness for All
We need the money spent on the push of french placed on health care and the deficit. Not the total lack of respect for any other Canadian that speaks the mother tongue of English or other.
For those that have seen their children leave to find employment where they don’t have to speak french I hope they will come and show Mr. McGillis support as well as standing up for the Charter of Rights. Which right will be next.
Read it and weep folks… Read it and weep….
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“[85] For these reasons, although the By-law is a breach of Brisson’s rights under s. 2(b) of the Charter, it is a breach that is demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society under s. 1 of the Charter.”
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A breach of “ANY” Canadian citizens rights CANNOT be “justified.”
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We are done weeping now. This type of insanity deserves nothing less than for Canadian citizens to stand united as one strong majority group against this kind of injustice. This type of activist judgement MUST NOT go unchecked or unchallenged.
Unfortunately, the continued push for bilingualism has now overstepped the charter of our rights and freedoms. Our freedom of expression. Canadians are losing our rights and need to stand up. A person should be able to put up a sign in the language of their choice…all English, all French, Chinese or all 3! We must stop creating the illusion that everyone in Ontario is bilingual and everyone with a bilingual sign is providing bilingual service. Wednesday night there will a be a law introduced to have the charter of rights and freedoms followed…..It is about time!!!! Thank you Bryan McGillis, Tammy Hart and the South Stormont team. It is so nice to have politicians with their eyes and ears wide open that listen and support the people!!! It is so important that everyone come out and support this….French, English and all minorities!
Did you know that a sign in Russell Township saying simply, “GENERAL STORE” is illegal?!?! Yes folks it is!!!!!!
Come one and come all to support Bryan, Tammy and all of us in an attempt to protect our rights and freedoms, Wednesday night in Long Sault at 6:30 to show your support. History will be made and a HUGE precedent for all other communities to follow suit.
See you there!
South Stormont residents are really busy out on the land at this time of year, so Township Council can afford to waste an hour listening to Howard Galganov. You can have him, he’s yours, say the English of Quebec.
How now Holy Cow why don’t you come out to the council meeting and you can count the number of South Stormont residents verses the number of people who come in on buses from Alexandria. The bus people actually think they are going to bingo and will look confused when they don’t here….”sous la b, neuf”.
Reg ,
Fat chances the lot from Alexandria will already be sleeping,too late for that crowd.A few may get rowdy when sun goes down ,and a tad bit confused ….perhaps bingo does sound nice ?
Oh well, it’s a night out…
The wheels on the bus go round & round,round & round,the wheels on the bus go round & round, all thru the town….
The Charter is an ambiguous document. In one paragraph it gives you a right, but in the next paragraph it denies it. What kind of law is it? It was deliberately designed in such a way as to always interpret it in favour of French Canadians.
The principal draftsman for the constitutional change was Gérard La Forest, the dean of law at the University of Alberta. In Alberta Report (August 1, 1980), Robert S. Matheson, Q.C., described his meeting with La Forest: “I was dismayed to learn how bitterly anti-British La Forest was and how clearly he stated his position that he would do everything possible to advance the position of French-speaking Canadians over English-speaking Canadians”.
So he did. The Charter is stuck up against Anglos’ freedoms. We cannot even put up a sign on our own private businesses in the language of our choice.
Canadians must demand revision and amendment of the Trudeau Charter. It is flawed.
I actually think the Charter should be scrapped entirely. Our good old BNA Act served us well for 115 years and we should return to its foundations.
A private citizen, that moved there to start trouble….
A private citizen, that rented an office there so he could have legitimacy in his claim…
A private citizen that is from Québec, Where even anglos in Québec disassociate themselves from him…
A private citizen, that promotes the extermination of a culture and and language…
A private citizen, that says he is discriminated against because of language even though he is fully bilingual…
A private citizen that calls himself a francophobe…
A private citizen that even a judge said He has no claim in that specific case.
..This private citizen, is willing to start a collection, the move to missisauga howard fun. I’m kicking in 20 dollars. I wonder how much a one way train ticket costs.
What if bilingualism doesn’t stay… what will kilroy do with all his free time. No more videos to make. Instead of videos with fake facts, may I suggest a nice video on birds…pigeons and why do they poop on windshields. Way more useful …
Wow, Patrick! Did someone pee in your Wheeties early this morning! You sure are full of venom and spite for such an early hour. I like the way you made comments in all the latest bilingual stories that are so positive and uplifting for all. You are an inspiration, Mr Boucher, and a fine example of what the future has to hold. pshaw!
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Remember people thats South Stormont 7pm watch history in the making ,and yes you can make a difference and be part of it.
NO government should tell owners of a private business what they should put up on their signs.
If they could it would be no different then bill 101 for Ontario.
Now people do you really want bill 101 in ONTARIO?.
Then stand up ,speak up ,you can make a difference.
Thanks Highlander.
Patrick
A private citizen has mobility rights in Canada
A private citizen from anywhere in the world can lease space in Canada
A private citizen from anywhere may not be accepted everwhere by everyone, have any of you neighbours moved recently?
A private citizen in Canada has freedom of speech and can talk about most anything, except bilingualism or language fairness or only where actually warrented it would seem.
It is time to correct that, laws put in place should have an automatic review after 10 years. The OLA is 4.2 reviews late!
Most of all, A private citizen is being denied the right of self expression if that private citizen puts up a unlingual sign in one of 4 townships in Ontario at their business!
Everyone should band together and get this corrected.
What I want to know is this. ‘If I have learned the French language “at the expense of an education in a language I understood from birth” and today if I understand the French question, but am being told I cannot serve the French population because I didn’t pass the test, then where are my rights to answer the French question in English.
Bravo Patrick…..tres bien dit!!! Thinking of pitching in $100.00 and having a BBQ to help the cause.
Yep..a private citizen who tried desperately to be elected and LOST. People saw right through him and knew he was trouble from the get go. Now as a private citizen, he will save the nation and will protect his english followers until death. The second coming is now here!!!!
Cheers to Stormont mayor and his stand. Too often in Canada do people end up paying for special interests? This is not to say each doesn’t deserve their moment, but when it affects the greater good of the country it is time to shut it down. The money the federal government gives to Quebec for this venture is asinine. Why not invest that money in the care of seniors. They are the people that provided us with what we have today.
I am not sure how much many of you travel but once you travel west of Brockville French is pretty much nonexistent. That is unless you cities having a government facility.
Personally I think if Quebec wants to pressure the rest of the country to speak their language, they should pay for all or any fees to do so.
Other issues in Quebec is their infrastructure, How is it with so many citizens, so little urbanization and so much federal money, the bridges are falling to the ground. One would think there is more pride in treating your people’s health and wellbeing with dignity is more important than making them speak French.
How many times has Cornwall alone seen companies move to Ontario in fear of language issues? Most only last about 4 years and pay relatively less than people earn in Quebec. After the language issues cool they move back to Quebec.
Haley Brown said “One would think there is more pride in treating your people’s health and wellbeing with dignity is more important than making them speak French. ”
Certificate in CPR an asset…….but must have both official languages. Guess you are not to far off!
Temporary FT Public Health Nurses
OFFICE :
-1 Temporary Full Time positions in Cornwall
-1 Temporary Full Time position in Hawkesbury/Cornwall
SALARY: $30.58 to $40.13 hourly plus 12% in lieu of benefits plus 6% in lieu of vacation.
DESCRIPTION OF JOB:
The individual will be responsible for various initiatives within the Family Health and Infectious Diseases programs.
QUALIFICATIONS:
Ontario Certificate of competence for the current year.
Baccalaureate degree in nursing.
Demonstrated skills in and/or knowledge of community development, social marketing, health education, behaviour change education and public policy.
Certificate in C.P.R. is an asset.
Good communications skills in both official languages.
Must possess a valid driver’s license and the use of an automobile.
Applications will be accepted until the positions are filled.
We are an equal opportunity employer.
Only those selected for an interview will be contacted.
Please send your application to:
Human Resources Department
Eastern Ontario Health Unit
1000 Pitt Street
Cornwall, Ontario K6H 5T1
Hawkesbury must be close to 80 % french ..so no brainer there about requiring bilingualism.
Cornwall has more then 20% french speaking individuals..so again no brainer.
– Especially when it comes to peoples health, requesting service in a hospital in french or english is not too much to ask for. Even if the patient is bilingual, why can’t he get service in his own language ? Doesn’t he deserve the same services anyone else would ? IF the patient has to to speak another language in order to get proper service from a nurse, might as well ask him to render his own diagnosis as well ..
@ Eric
What a frickin joke! You will get service in French here in town, but the nurse knowing CPR is just an ASSET?!?!? WHO THE HELL IS MINDING THE STORE I MIGHT ASK?????
Some equal opportunity employer! I don’t care which language my nurse speaks but I want her to know CPR. Now I have seen everything in this city!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jaime, any thoughts on changing cornwall free news to Québec free news. The province seems to be the only topic of discussion in this ¨soap box¨. Although I have gotten used to proving everyone wrong on language and Québec, any other topic in mind. Seems to me don smith and you should come up with one or two more interesting topics.
One more question jaime, what do you advertisers think about this free news promoting howard galganov and LFA. Just curious ?
Patrick ,
What they don’t agree in your mandate …..surprise the majority does not!
Times they are a changing …..,the question now is why educate oneself to know CPR which could save a life when language is considered more important ?
So if a person reacts to the injection it is more important to know the second language then it is those precious moments that may save their life..
Sad people this is when politics come at play!
Patrick,said:
Hawkesbury must be close to 80 % french ..so no brainer there about requiring bilingualism.
Cornwall has more then 20% french speaking individuals..so again no brainer.
So in Hawkesbury being french is 80% as Cornawall is English do Hawkesbury demand 50% English as French is in demand in Cornwall ?
Why not?
Good question I thought ?
What 2 different sets of rules?
Really ?
Now who Really has more rights?
CC2,
J’ai mal au ventre ?
J’étouffe, J’ai quelque chose pris dans la gorge !
J’ai des maux de têtes.
Which one do you need CPR for ? …Thought so, enough said !!
All this proves is that to further ones Education in CPR is trumped by language -so why get educated for CPR?
More important to know the second language then it is to know how to resuscitate someone who has a heart attack?
Hello All,
So very nice to more and more new posters, on the forum. It does seem that our radical French fringe element, is sounding rather desperate and nervous about the turn of recent events. Glad to hear it, has made my day:)
Notice that they are attacking the posters with ridicule and hostility, as per “business as usual”. It is clear that the French don’t want equality with the English…they want superiority over the English.
Otherwise, they would stand in solidarity with us…! The fact, that the French are fine with government sanctioned linguistic discrimination is despicable. The pendulum has swung much too far, in favour of the French minority. Perhaps, it would behoove the French to remember that when the pendulum swings back…the English will not forget!!!
Folks, demand to repeal the OLA.
Another incident of “brown shirts” in Quebec attacking a child for speaking English on the street:
http://oqla.org/en/discussion/media/119-child-assaulted-for-speaking-english-in-public#disqus_thread
Great comment Shawn, you hit the nail on the head. You might also add that according to HOC meeting minutes…..the francophones of New Brunswick which includes the students and working age have an illiteracy rate of 64%. Ironically, they are considered bilingual although they struggle in both languages.
@Holy Cow…looks like the English of paybec are making out wonderfully.
http://oqla.org/en/discussion/media/119-child-assaulted-for-speaking-english-in-public
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Patrick boucher, most French people in Ontario are bilingual. Only 0.04% are not. Can you explain to me why someone in Ontario wouldn’t learn English if they are so concerned about their health? I fail to understand.
I moved to a highly French concentration in Quebec and learned French. I did not even ask myself the question, it is normal and natural to do so.
That being said, I am bilingual, why would I need services in 2 languages? Montreal is bilingual though they refuse to say so. They should have more of both languages. One has to be delusional to think that Ontario has to pretend that it is bilingual.
Also, the language act, which removes peoples rights, says that the number of people speaking both languages should represent the population, ”thus 5% of health care and gov. organisations should speak French”, and that’s if you ignore the fact that most of those people speak English and that’s if you like to reward people for isolating themselves by not learning the majority language of their province and country.
One has to be pretty self centered to remove English rights and business rights just to cater to their personals ”wants” (not needs).
Tell your friends who refuse to learn English that doing so can kill them, don’t blame Ontario for their personal choices.
Though I’ve never seen someone die of being French…. Normally, people find someone to help out those who speak another language if they can and that’s how it should be.
The difference in Quebec, is that a good proportion of the population refuses to help English people who just arrived and haven’t yet learned French. So if you wish to complain, complain to Quebec.
Patrick the point on the job ad was qualifications take a back seat to language. Of the 3 items you listed, CPR would be very useful for #2, but you would not have enough air to say the whole sentence.
What does “We are an equal opportunity employer” mean?
The reality is : The hospital is a new Corporatuione before there were two and at the old Hotel Dieu they worked very hard to make sure that both languages were always close by positions were filled as much as possible with bilingual personal not mandated . Signs and patient information was translated to be bilingual no one usually waited very long before a fully bilingual staff member was there to help. But what the Patricks really want is immediate gratification and he wants to make sure he and his fellow speaking Fench people have first grabs at a limited amount of high paying jobs that can’t be found in Quebec . The courts are now slanted because of this, so are the government policy makers, English no longer have a chance and its spreading with the jobs .
But wait a small twp in ontario in the year 2012 who once fought off the mighty USA to protect Canadian soil in the War of 1812 is once again protecting Canadians rights and in doing so is fighting for the French Canadian rights at the same time to put up a sign in the language of there choice its funny how a group of english Cnadians fight for French Canadians rights to freedom of expression when theire own province has stolen that from them yes its against the law for a unilingual French person to put a English Chinese or any other sign up on there business unless it in both LANGUAGES the reality is in the hospital it not about language at all its all about the gradification in South Stormont is all about our Rights in the constitution . The funny thing is you do not have to take a bullet to support them today !
I absolutely find it hilarious when job descriptions say they are an “equal opportunity employer”.As long as your not one of those English people.Lol.It’s very scary to think about what incompetent people are taking care of us in the medical field if these are their requirements;”must speak French,but who gives a hell if you can do C.P.R”.I pray that none of my family gets sick while we are living here in Moncton.
well eric, you had google translation at your disposal…
angela, you just don’t get it. Québec is more bilingual then every province in Canada. So, to say that the some refuse to learn english in Québec is true, some people, not most.
– Its all a question of curtesy. Most francophones in Ontario speak both official languages. But in situations such as i stated before, when your sick, nurses provide an essential service. Dieu merci aux infirmières de l’hôtel dieu qui reconnaissent l’importance des services de qualités et la courtoisie.
– where numbers warrant the need. I’d say that providing services to an average of 5000 people in a specific town is not too much to ask for. Surely if a service is not provided in french, and the patient has to speak english, are we going to ask him to render a diagnosis on his own health problem as well ?
patrick, are you saying we asking immigrants “to render a diagnosis on (their) own health problem”, because many of them do not speak English or French?? Francophones in Ontario, on the other hand, do speak English – so how is it “asking them to make their own diagnosis”? Don’t make me laugh, please. LOL
patrick why do you think dr. tombler wrote his letter to the editor?
I can tell you lots of stories about French people in Eastern Ontario who have almost lost their language due to years ago bilingualism was not required… What happens to thse people they lose their heritage imo.. The had to learn English which is fine but their French got lost.
I also met a fellow from Ile Bizzard QC.. he worked for GMC in St Therese.. When it closed he got transferred to Windsor a French Quebecer whose name is Jean Guy is now John and barely speaks French and has moved back to Hawksbury with his daughter where I have encouraged him to go by Jean Guy not John and to start getting his French back… Now how many of the Anglos of Eastern Ontario can attest to this happening to them.. .I would guess not one.. not one..
This I find very sad that these French people and there are many who have lost their language due to lack of bilingualism.
I am an Anglophone and i would not liked to have lost my culture my language etc and this will never happen to your dear Anglophones of Eastern Ontario…
Jane its up to YOU to maintain YOUR culture -nobody else should be held accountable for YOU to maintain YOUR culture.
You really are not understanding it !!!
Why should others be accountable for YOUR culture ?
What makes YOU think YOUR culture is more important then other cultures?
Why should others defend YOUR culture?
Patrick courtesy means not forcing YOUR language on OTHERS ,when you respect others they will respect YOU!
Till then its only YOUR culture that is pushed and the rest of Canada see it NOW!
“I can tell you lots of stories about French people in Eastern Ontario who have almost lost their language due to years ago bilingualism was not required…”
I know of not one immigrant friend of mine who has immigrated to Canada from another country who has lost their native language.
“What happens to thse people they lose their heritage imo.. The had to learn English which is fine but their French got lost.”
Heritage is tied to history and you cannot lose your history. Languages should be taught at home. It is not the responsibilty of the state to fund nor to encourage a cultural minority’s language, culture nor religion. Stop blaming the praticioners of one language for the loss of another. (This isn’t Quebec and there isn’t a Bill 101 in Ontario protecting the English language from the growth of the French one).
“I also met a fellow from Ile Bizzard QC.. he worked for GMC in St Therese.. When it closed he got transferred to Windsor a French Quebecer whose name is Jean Guy is now John and barely speaks French and has moved back to Hawksbury with his daughter where I have encouraged him to go by Jean Guy not John and to start getting his French back… Now how many of the Anglos of Eastern Ontario can attest to this happening to them.. .I would guess not one.. not one..”
You’re right. I haven’t heard of the option of one Ontario employee having had the benefit of getting a transfer to Quebec from Ontario. There are processing plants here in Ontario where they regularly close and not one of these workers are offered transfers when the companees have moved to Quebec! Tell me, exactly how many Ontario workers from Sudbury got transfers to Swawinigan Quebec whenever the tax centre was moved there? If they had, they would have had to learn French pretty damn fast as Quebec is a majority French language province. Again, bad government policy…
“I am an Anglophone and i would not liked to have lost my culture my language etc and this will never happen to your dear Anglophones of Eastern Ontario…
Thanks for you having revealed your proclivity of the French language agenda! Are you not a “dear Anglophone of Eastern Ontario” yourself? If you lose your culture, be it English, French, German, Italian, Aboriginal, Spanish, Polish, Russian etc. your demise will be yours to bear and to bear it alone or as a group. There are community groups here in Timmins outside of English and French groups. Not a single one is government funded and it thrives from personal, business donations and support. They all meet at least once a week and brainstorm on things such as community events, public education, etc. In other words, they rely upon each other and not the monetary support of big government.
It’s long past due for French language groups to leave the government nest as it is and to fly solo and to rely upon personal, community merit for upkeeping in issues like community groups, language and support.
How many more Franco-Ontario flags must I and millions of other Canadian taxpayers have to pay for not to mention all of the bureaucracy that supports this?
C.
How proud is it a culture that relies on other cultures to support it?
How proud of a culture to demand others cultures to respect it when it shows disdain to all other cultures?
How proud is a culture to expect other cultures to financially support it?
How proud is a culture that is willing to bite the hand that feed them?
How proud is a culture that expects its own welfare state (Quebec )
to be proud recipients of (welfare) redistribution from the rest of Canada ?
How proud is a culture that has needed to survive support from a country it does not recognize ,but is more then willing to criticize,but willing to receive money from?
How proud is it a culture that demonizes another culture for simply not being of their own?
Feel proud for others have supported you for many years !
When will you stand and support yourself?
Triste et dommage…
– every year the french language is declining in statistics, but some unilingual anglos don’t care. Replying that its not up to them to save the language. Its much easier to speak english, 77 percent majority, more then 300 million anglos throughout North America. All we want is a little recognition where numbers warrant the need.Now I can just guess the replies I’ll get, well most francos speak english, learn the language of the majority.
Well, we all do learn the language of the majority, we only ask that where there is 5000 people and up you provide us with the same curtesy we give you. Bilingualism only costs less then 1 % of the national budget, and francophones comprise at least 21 % of the population of Canada. Aren’t we do at least that…
No some will say no, that its not fair, and the french language is forced on us in russell. Well alot of things are forced on me that I dont agree with but I do it anyways. I pay too much taxes, I can only water my lawn after 5 pm, Electricity prices and gaz prices are too high.
Helga, we aren’t going to ask an immigrant to render their own diagnosis. BUt I’m not sure you get my point. Close to 25 % of are french speaking in Cornwall, are you going to deny them their right to be served in their own language. Now that would be a shame. 23 % of Canada is french speaking, are you going to deny them service as well ?
– Now some will reply, well they speak both official languages, its easy for them. when confronted with a serious ailment, and when you require immediate medical service, to most its not that easy to switch back and forth in english and french. Even if you are almost perfectly bilingual.
patrick, so how about immigrants with a serious ailment who cannot speak English nor French? At least, you can switch to English if needed. What language do immigrants should switch to? Do our nurses speak all 200 languages that are spoken in Canada? You just don’t care, do you? It’s all about you, the French.
“Close to 25 % of are English speaking in Quebec, are you going to deny them their right to be served in their own language. Now that would be a shame.”
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Hummm, where did i read something similar to this?
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Yup it SURE IS A SHAME and what’s worse is that it not only simply being “denied” but in the case of the English it is against the law.
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COMPLETELY and utterly blinded by selfishness and some type of super engrained self righteousness. Oh my…
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All i can say is, IT’S TIME.
Oh my god kilroy, THEY DO !! Not 25% but closer to 15…even at 15 %…they get good service in english. Have you heard jacques parizeau, rené lévesques, pierre marc johnson speak..they are all seperatists all perfectly bilingual. They know that the french language is declining, they unlike others are willing to do anything possible to save the french language. Are they limiting quebecers from attending schools in english,nope, are they limiting anglos from getting good service in a hospital,nope, are they providing bilingual government services…yep. Heck they hired david levine an anglo as minister of health…
Helga, that is an argument most lfa members use to get out of providing services for french canadians. Surely your not saying that we should deny services to nearly a quarter of Canadas population. Its not all about the french…its about curtesy. Curtesy that some of you are lacking.!!
Daddies little separatist said
“Have you heard jacques parizeau, rené lévesques, pierre marc johnson speak..they are all seperatists all perfectly bilingual. They know that the french language is declining, they unlike others are willing to do anything possible to save the french language.”
In one statement then says:
. Its not all about the french…its about curtesy. Curtesy that some of you are lacking.!!
Cortesy is not violating “Freedom of Expression”-now tell that to the merchants who have no chioce in the language on their signs.
Courtesy is allowing one culture to maintain their language -not enforcing it on others .
Courtesy in respecting other cultures …..Quebec respects other cultures? They are ETHNOCENTRIC!!!!!!
Patrick you should be arguing with the separatists as they are your problem ….the more they behave like….separatists ….the more the opposition to these barbaric language laws and the ENGLISH wake up to this.
Oh Patrick 20% not 25% and Cornwall its 21 % :
“every year the french language is declining in statistics, but some unilingual anglos don’t care.”
Every year government of Canada excludes the majority of its population in the hiring…..but french really don’t care…do they ?
You will defend what you perceive your inequality but…..
Why is 60-65% of federal government positions filled with Francophones ?
For that 20% what of that inequity?
Bilingual imperative positions awarded to Francophones in Federal government positions.
http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2006/dp-pd/hlt/97-555/t401-eng.cfm
http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/arp-rpa/2009/st-ts/tb/tb107/tb116-eng.htm
province francophone positions % % of total pop of Francophones
Alberta 29.7% 1.88%
BC 45.0% 1.34%
Manitoba 30.8% 4.3%
New Brunswick 76.5% 32.8%
Newfoundland 38.9% 0.37%
Nova Scotia 50.0% 3.6%
Ontario 45.2% 3.98%
PEI 35.75 4.25%
Quebec 86.9% 79.04%
Outside of Canada 50%
CANADA 64.8% 21.82%
SO ALL CANADIANS WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU?
WAY OVER REPRESENTATED!!!!!!
PATRICK-where is the courtesy here?