LANGUAGE POLICE IN CORNWALL? & Alleged Whitewash During Cornwall Community Hospital Accreditation Site Visit

LANGUAGE POLICE IN CORNWALL?  & Alleged Whitewash During Cornwall Community Hospital Accreditation Site Visit
CCH surgical nurse Darlene Walsh speaks out


CFN
– Bright and early last Monday morning, some members and supporters of the area’s Language Fairness for All group descended upon Cornwall Community Hospital in a demonstration designed to coincide with a three day hospital accreditation site visit. CCH Board Chairperson Helene Periard escorted the four member inspection team onto the site as the Accreditation Canada group from Quebec proceeded past the latest in a series of LFA “Acts of Activism”, this one right in front of the hospital.

According to the bilingual Accreditation Canada website: “Accreditation Canada is a not-for-profit, independent organization accredited by the International Society for Quality in Health Care (ISQua). We provide national and international health care organizations with an external peer review process to assess and improve the services they provide to their patients and clients based on standards of excellence. Accreditation Canada’s programs and guidance have helped organizations promote quality health care for over 50 years.”

As is often the case at these gatherings, many drivers waved and/or honked horns as a show of support for the group’s efforts to highlight inequities in hiring practices which highly favour Francophones in a country whose vast majority is English speaking. Cornwall Police were summoned mid-morning and LFA spokesperson Chris Cameron was asked to ensure that no signs created a hazard to those entering/exiting the hospital lot by obstructing view.

Acting upon a recent recommendation, the LFA group provided coffee and Timbits to anyone wishing to avail themselves of the morning snack. It was envisaged that some hospital staff might be inclined to join the protest during break time were it not necessary to lose out on the break itself.

One CCH nurse who joined the group on her break used the time to speak on camera with CFN. Darlene Walsh who, after working part-time at the hospital for the past 18 years, was just recently awarded a full-time position.

Walsh spoke passionately on the topic of the quality of patient care transcending linguistic differences. Visibly upset about the impact on patients, she also addressed the issue of hospital cleanliness and overcrowding. An apparent common practice is to place patients in hospital hallways for days at a time. Some of these patients, she reports, require enemas, which are conducted behind a screen in the busy hallways, affording very little dignity to the patients. She couldn’t help but observe that the hospital had been cleaned and hallways cleared of patients just in time for the site visit. We’ll let you hear Darlene in her own words in our video clip.

Donnez-moi deux Timbits, s’il vous plaît.


“Language Police” at Cornwall Tim Hortons?
On Saturday evening at the Tim Hortons on Brookdale near 13th Street, some regular customers found it impossible not to take note of a needlessly lengthy dialogue which caused a considerable delay in service. The conversation was in French and the “customer” was quizzing the clerk at length about just how French she is, which is her first language, how comfortable she is in dealing in French, does she prefer to converse in one language or the other, does she generally address people in English first, etc, etc. How do you say Timbit in French? Have the language police come to Cornwall now?

South Stormont Council Leading the Way?
It should be interesting to witness the exchange at the South Stormont Council meeting tomorrow evening. Every major media outlet has been encouraged to provide coverage of what promises to be history in the making. After hearing a presentation from human rights activist Howard Galganov, Council is expected to vote on whether or not to make a formal commitment to always respect Canadians’ right to do business in the language of their choice, be it English, French, Chinese, Italian or anything else.

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60 Responses to "LANGUAGE POLICE IN CORNWALL? & Alleged Whitewash During Cornwall Community Hospital Accreditation Site Visit"

  1. stellabystarlight   September 25, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    As the stomach turns…..next chapter of the soap opera “Language Predators” The honking of horns is a definite show of approval……why they even waved at me when driving by at another one of their rallies. What some would do for attention.

    Gee Walsh doesn’t seem to happy at the CCH…….perhaps she should look elsewhere….like in SS. Thinking after tomorrow night, SS will be a much better and happier place to live and work.

  2. Mariah   September 25, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    OMG fantastic story,thank you CFN for telling it like it is,thank you Darlene in risking bulling from management for telling the truth about many safety concerns,wish we could clone you!!! You are one good nurse who puts patient care at priorty level.Education & experience before language

  3. Maureen Billings   September 25, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    Stella – Do you have a life? Just wondering.

  4. Soc   September 25, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    We must not discourage Stella. She’s the Pastor Tom of official bilingualism

  5. stellabystarlight   September 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    Maureen. let me assure that my life is quite interesting and fulfilling indeed, thanks for asking. **smile** Hoping your’s is the same. Funny I was asking myself the same question about your cohorts, yorlik, highlander eric and company. Gee…..great minds think alike…..Bonne soiree et n’oublie pas l’assemblee demain. C’est tres important. A demain!!!!

  6. Cory Cameron   September 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Thanks CFN for all of your coverage. Thanks Darlene for coming forward with all of your information! It takes great courage to stand up for one’s convictions, especially in Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry (aka Hazard County).

    Thanks again LFA for another successful protest.

    C.

  7. Cory Cameron   September 25, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    Why is this Accreditation group from Quebec? Again, is this an example of ‘outsourcing’ work to the province of Quebec?

    Is there no Accreditation group from Ontario?

    About the Language Police in Cornwall?

    Why not just annex Cornwall to Quebec now!?

    Enough is enough!

    Better go to South Stormont Council tomorrow folks! Lest French only agenda pushers plant the Fleur-de-lis on the lawn of the Ontario legislature. Or have they already with the Franco-Ontarian flag?

  8. Angela   September 25, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    Just do like Quebecers… refuse to speak to them by saying, ”here we are in Canada, speak in English !”

    I love karma…

    ”If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

  9. Jeddie   September 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    Say NO to bilingualism, like Quebecistan says NO to ENGLISH ! They do not like you, why do this for them? Let’s not reward racist , rude and self-centered behavior. We are not in Iran. The majority is English. No more Mr.Nice guy.

  10. Jeddie   September 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    But don’t take it out on the reasonable and friendly French Canadians.

  11. Paul   September 25, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    Mariah, LFA protesrs are working. Darlene has nothing to fear from her management. She credits LFA ongoing protests for finally getting a full time position (just before the commission arrived)…after 18 years of being held in part-time just because her French was not impeccable, despite the fact that there are more than enough bilingual staff to address the needs of Cornwall francophones. Apparently, the “need” for 100% bilingual nurses is totally artificial. The CCH administration deliberately ignores recommendation to put a bilingual nurse on every shift.

    There is obviously an agenda putting forward by radical francophones and their enablers anglo “useful idiots”.

  12. concerned citizen 2   September 25, 2012 at 7:04 PM

    Speak up people its alright ,its not illegal,you do have a right to
    speak up ,you are not a racist /bigot /whatever derogatory statement one can say to have you not stand up for your rights .

    Its alright to stand up for your rights, don’t feel bad: They are YOUR RIGHTS.

  13. bigfellow   September 25, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Hey Stella, your french is really good. Maybe you should try to join the french movement in Quebec, they are really looking for people like you or is it that you are one of the (gang) from the Quebec socialist group?
    Have a nice day, especially stella.

  14. Helga   September 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    CC2, it’s better not to repeat your opponents’ definitions of you. It only magnifies them. Instead, define your adversary.

  15. Mike Bedard   September 25, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    I am growing a little tired of hearing and seeing this protest!

    This repitive message would be more credible if it more than just the same handful of people where present!

    This is not a growing nor interesting type of protest! This is becoming more annoying than interesting even the posts are pointless since almost all points and conversations are repeating themselves so much that it has become uneventful due to the lack of substance!

    However, KUDOS and good luck tomorrow in South Stormont! I will try to show my support on-line and in-person; but I am working and may need to stay until 9 PM!

    Thank You,
    Mike Bedard

  16. Lou Israel   September 25, 2012 at 9:55 PM

    This is very encouraging. Now that Kaybecekers are PHYSICALLY ATTACKING ANGLOPHONES for speaking English, more and more attention will be paid to these racist francophones. And Stella is right—-Stormont should be a better place to work after the protest tomorrow. When English rights are won again.

    Remember, folks, there is NO bilingualism in Canada. There is ONLY FORCED FRENCHIFICATION. Please use that term, because otherwise you cater to the racist francophones by using THEIR term. They could care LESS about promoting English in Kaybec (which WOULD be bilingualism), so don’t give ANYONE the impression that this deal is two-sided. IT IS NOT.
    (And although I have mentioned this many times, at least one poster here is a francophone who is rightly ashamed of the actions of his/her fellow citizens, and for whom I have the utmost respect. Stella, racists like you have their days numbered. And I think deep down you know it. The English are waking up!)

    Also, why do we feel the need to apologize for ourselves or say that we speak French as well, as some of us do? I spent four decades in Kaybec, in one case the only anglophone in a sea of francophones, and to this day I am not considered bilingual by Kaybec (or the federal government it seems). I no longer speak French in Kaybec until someone speaks English to me. Do I get into fights? Sure do. Why? Because racist francophones DO NOT want equality, ONLY rules that favour French. Well, not this guy. You want MY money or MY help? SPEAK ENGLISH to me.

    And I am quite happy with Kaybec separating if necessary. My latest proposal is to partition most of southern Kaybec, absolutely including the Outaouais and parts of the Townships.
    And what of Montreal? A divided city. Think it wouldn’t work? I give you Berlin and Jerusalem, to name two. The main reason racist francophones taunt us is because deep down they know that with the proper political motivation it COULD work, much to their detriment.

    I will not be at Stormont tomorrow but I am with you in spirit and GO HOWARD GO!

  17. Colleen McIntosh   September 25, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    My congratulations to Darlene Walsh and Language Fairness for All, for standing up and being counted!!!

    It takes real courage and the strength of your convictions to speak out against injustice and discrimination.

    Encourage everyone to join the fight with: Language Fairness for All, Canadians for Language Fairness and Howard Galganov.

    Together we stand and divided we will fall!

  18. Barry Renouf   September 25, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    This makes me want to move to Cornwall and protest my butt off. You Ontario people are the bravest group I have ever seen. You sure know how to stick up for rights!!!!

  19. Lolochuck   September 26, 2012 at 3:14 AM

    @ Mike Bedard

    You would have fit in very well on council this time around if you would have won! You are just the like the rest of them, walking around with blinders on. Ignorance is bliss eh? Your nurse would be able to speak French, but you just might have to go for a crap on a pot in the hallway if you need healthcare in Cornwall! Sorry but if you can’t see any of these issues, you better stay away from being a main-player in trying to help this city! Keep selling pools and do this city a favour!

  20. Lolochuck   September 26, 2012 at 3:19 AM

    @ Barry

    Thanks so much for your kind comments! Sometimes I think we are brave and at other times I feel that people are just at their wits end that they have to speak up at any risk(bullying etc).

    Cornwall has so much potential. We need to air the bad, expose the problems and get on with new business to make all things better.

    By the way, we’d love to have you here protesting with us! We appreciate your support as we advocate for the majority!

  21. Patrick boucher   September 26, 2012 at 4:10 AM

    Human rights activist, what a laugh!! A man that published a pamphlet with a title promoting the extermination of the french language in eastern ontario… what a humanitarian. Mr Galganov…Canadas mother theresa.

  22. Angela   September 26, 2012 at 4:43 AM

    Well said Lou !

    89.4% of the 5% French population know English and are bilingual. Thus in Ontario ”0.04%” of the population need to learn English. Similar stats outside of Quebec in general. Should Ontario cater to a tiny percentage of people who refuse to do like most minorities and learn the majority language. If you were born in China, wouldn’t you want to know Chinese or would you prefer to be isolated and not be able to participate fully in your country? I do not think that we should be rewarding such decisions.

    Montreal is bilingual, it ”should” be considered as so and have more English services. Ontario is NOT bilingual. Anyone capable of reading statistics can clearly see that it is not. That is why the language act creates so much inequalities and unfair measures.

    Also and as usual, the English right part of the language act is not even respected. Be sure to read it if you haven’t. Notice the contradictions and also the ”exceptions” to your rights (loopholes)

    As my French mother says, do not give Quebecers an inch, they will take a mile and step all over you ! Rudely imposing their language with no respect for other languages and specifically English.

    You are the majority, you have the power to stop this from happening within our own country.

    Lou said it well, refuse the term bilingual as we are not a bilingual country. We have a majority English and minorities just like in other countries, but some actually are bilingual. We are NOT !

    I cannot believe the nerve of some of these French people who are an insult to my French family who love English and who do not even care about or need French services because they were bright enough to learn English in a mainly English country. We DO NOT like the language wars that Quebecers have and are creating !

    Some people know how to live in peace and get along with others you know. Some people are capable of mutual respect and do not feel the need to crush other cultures so that their own can dominate. How many minorities get so much money and attention? What about the natives who’s children do not even receive equal education funding? What about hungry and poor children? And all of this money goes to one minority? How selfish and inconsiderate can you be? Harsh words… but the truth must prevail.

    Other are not racist for standing up for their rights and their country. They will know better then to elect French Quebecers next time and now it looks like they will even have to be careful about French names in general. My last name may be French, but I do not even trust French names myself anymore because most of the trouble makers do have French names and that’s just a fact. They ruin it for reasonable and respectful French people.

  23. Eric   September 26, 2012 at 6:39 AM

    ALL of the Eastern Ontario Francophones I know, and I am going back a few decades, would speak English around English and French around French. Very polite and dignified people and probably still are. I do believe each of us can make a difference, but in la ine up at Timmies????

    It would be interesting to see if part of the accrediation process was to examine the acceptance of the French Language Services Act. You know, where the signed on instutution, hospitals and schools, accept money and guarenteed taxpayer funding to push more French workers there.

    Mike Bedard makes a good point about being repetitive. The problem is people care little until it affects them personally and have a preconcieved concept of the problem, any problem and do not want to see the other side or understand it fully.

  24. concerned citizen 2   September 26, 2012 at 7:08 AM

    The injustice continues; cops’ must be “bilingual” in Ottawa…

    Police won’t assign anglo officer to Vanier 1
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    Community concerned he was not bilingual
    Police Chief Charles Bordeleau backed down Monday from appointing an anglophone officer to the Vanier Community Police Centre after facing community concerns because the officer doesn’t speak French.

    The current Community Police Centre officer, Marc Daviault, is set to continue in his position instead of English-speaking Matt Hunt, who had recently been appointed. Hunt will remain in his current position instead of assuming the CPC job.

    “We are a flexible organization that takes into consideration all the needs of our communities,” Bordeleau said. “This wasn’t about (Hunt’s) abilities. He’s an outstanding officer.”

    Bordeleau said he had asked executive members to look at the selection process and provide him with a recommendation, which he accepted. Bordeleau also designated the Vanier post as a specialty position requiring bilingualism. He said he did not have plans to designate all community police centre positions as bilingual. “There was definitely a strong message from the francophone community that language is important issue. I can understand and appreciate that need,” Bordeleau said.

    Members of the Vanier Community Association had written a letter earlier this month expressing their concern that the substantial number of francophones in Vanier would be underserved by a unilingual officer.

    But the president of the Ottawa Police Association said he plans to formally challenge Bordeleau’s decision to designate the Vanier posting a position requiring bilingualism.

    “The prejudice shown against someone because of language is sad, especially today,” said Sgt. Matt Skof. “They assume that just because he doesn’t speak French he can’t do the job, and I find that disappointing and prejudicial.

    “Const. Daviault is extremely competent, so there’s no issue on that front, but what bothers me is the decision to specialize the Vanier CPC.”

    Skof, himself a former Vanier CPC officer and Central District sergeant, said that the police service has hired chiefs who don’t speak French, and they are allowed to learn on the job.

    Hunt, he said, is eager to learn the language.

    “It’s unfortunate because here we have somebody who really wants to work there, and who really loves Vanier — he’s spent several years in Vanier, just as I have — and if you enjoy that kind of policing and that kind of environment, you grow to love it.”

    And Skof pointed out that the Vanier CPC office represents a diverse community. “So which community gets represented here?” he said.

    “We’ve politicized our policing. We’ve politicized how we deploy resources.”

  25. Kim Lian Khoo   September 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Patrick boucher wrote: A man that published a pamphlet with a title promoting the extermination of the french language in eastern ontario… what a humanitarian. Mr Galganov…Canadas mother theresa.

    Either Patrick cannot understand written English or he thinks that the way to win this battle is to deliberately misread written English. Howard’s flyer is saying that it is wrong to disallow (by law) French only signs, just as it is wrong to disallow (by law) English only signs. In this country where the Charter (Section 2b) guarantees freedom of speech & expression, why would you pass a law ENFORCING the use of English and French? A business should be allowed to use any language/s it likes – the only entity that should have an opinion on this is the customer who is free to boycott the business if he/she is not happy about anything the business owner does. If people are left alone to make decisions, they usually make the right decisions. People in a free society should not be forced to use any language, no matter how much the minority language group may feel that it is necessary to protect, promote or preserve their dying language.

    We are slowly but surely becoming a society too tolerant of fascistic governments which believe in pushing more and more restrictions on our freedoms. If we don’t fight this trend, it will get worse and worse. We only have to look at how far Quebec has gone when it has been allowed to go to such extremes. Now that Marois has come forward with her extremist anti-English stance, the ordinary French-speaker in Quebec feel free to beat up on English-speakers speaking English to each other!!! Read about it here:

    http://oqla.org/en/discussion/media/119-child-assaulted-for-speaking-english-in-public#disqus_thread

  26. edudyorlik   September 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Well done Chris, Cory, Darleen, Debbie and all the rest… I say again with a great amount of enthusiasm. The effort that you are putting in, along with your courage and spirit is WELL appreciated by those of us who aren’t able to be there in person but do support the cause in many other ways. Keep it up. It will grow. More and more people are becoming aware and joining in. I repeat the mantra once again… IT’S TIME…

    PS. Love the “oui before we” sign. Great message…

    PPS: I must say, it is so nice to see the old familiar French zealot(s) having posted their usual verbal diarrhea. After all, what would my morning coffee be without a good laugh and that oh so familiar sense of disgust I feel in my gut about the one sided blind “my cause at the expense of all others” message they constantly spew.

  27. edudyorlik   September 26, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    @Lou Israel RE: September 25, 2012 at 9:55 pm POST
    That is such an amazing post Lou. EVERYONE should read what you said in this post.
    Here is a small snip it …
    Lou said, “Remember, folks, there is NO bilingualism in Canada. There is ONLY FORCED FRENCHIFICATION. Please use that term, because otherwise you cater to the racist francophones by using THEIR term. They could care LESS about promoting English in Kaybec (which WOULD be bilingualism), so don’t give ANYONE the impression that this deal is two-sided. IT IS NOT.”

    So damn true and I would add… We should stop seeking so called “equality” with a group that obviously wants nothing to do with equality (French ONLY clinics, Bill 101 etc). We should be moving towards a “ROC version of bill 101.” If Quebec wants to be legally unilingual French then why the hell can’t the ROC be legally unilingual English? If we use their criteria then we have the numbers for it… And, let’s face it; all it would take is one province, say Alberta, to pass its own version of bill 101 declaring itself to be unilingual English and you can bet your grandma’s false teeth that the Federal government would step up faster than Marois took the French flag out of the National Assembly in order to question what the heck Alberta was up to and to try to put a stop to it. And, of course, that would open up the discussion as to why Quebec can declare “itself” unilingual French in a country that “THEY THEMSELVS” are so adamant about it being 100% bilingual. So, for any westerners out there watching this forum. Mention that are your next group meeting around the water cooler. Never know, sometimes all it takes is for one person to say something and.. Poof… A better fairer Canada void of “language laws and French domination of the English majority.”

    And, as Danny Williams say’s, “this country needs to stand up and take notice of what’s going on…” http://youtu.be/GOFj5A4yC2I

    PS: Once again I say. For those of you who skim through and don’t read all posts. If you see this, take the time to read the — Lou Israel September 25, 2012 at 9:55 pm POST
    Right on Lou. No more apologies. 🙂

    PPS @ RE: September 26, 2012 at 4:43 am comment
    Angela wrote: “As my French mother says, do not give Quebecers an inch, they will take a mile and step all over you ! Rudely imposing their language with no respect for other languages and specifically English.” Funny, that’s EXACTLY what my French mother used to say bless her soul. SO TRUE… “Give em an inch they’ll take a mile…” It’s in their character. Generally speaking, of course. As NOTHING is ever 100% like the French want bilingualism to be 🙂

  28. edudyorlik   September 26, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Opps, that should have read, “faster than Marois took down the Canadian flag.” 😮
    On my second cup now, i’ll be fine.

  29. Karen Harris   September 26, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Another great news story, Thanks to CFN; as for the language police being at Tim Horton’s, questioning the employees there – now they are really getting ridiculous !! Absolutely no need for ANY language police anywhere. The Accreditation group from Quebec being at the hospital in Ontario ! – for what purpose ?? The job descriptions should still have education, experience and merit as being the number one priority for job positions and 2nd language as being an asset only !! I wished that I lived closer, and was able to be at the at the South Stormont Council meeting this evening to give my full support.

  30. stellabystarlight   September 26, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Gee…..Lou and here I thought I would see you in person tonight, I am somewhat disappointed…..of course there will probably be more then 500 others that I may get to meet…which is very thrilling!!! We must stand up for our rights because when the english have completed their task, this country will be a much better place. When I think of all the good jobs, promotions and better job opportunities that the english will get when this is all said and done….I get so excited for you all!!!!

    Lowlow, Cornwall would have much more potential if they didn’t have the “language predators” picketing all over Cornwall and stirring the unwanted BS **s** Until the nonsense stops, Cornwall will be looked upon as fools and trouble makers.

  31. edudyorlik   September 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    @concerned citizen 2 RE: September 26, 2012 at 7:08 am POST

    This is the contact information for the Ottawa Police association. I would encourage everyone to let their thoughts be known to them or to Chief Bordeleau re: this issue. My correspondence to Chief Bordeleau is posted below.

    Compliments / Complaints
    Ottawa Police Association
    200-141 Catherine Street
    Ottawa, Ontario K2P 1C3
    Fax: (613) 232-1044
    E: ottawapa@ottawapa.ca

    Attention Chief Charles Bordeleau. We, “the members of the citizenry of Ontario” are writing with regard to your decision regarding officer Matt Hunt and his being denied a placement in the Vanier area. Need we, the majority tax paying citizens of this country remind you sir that Vanier, though it may have a high prevalence of French speaking citizens, it none the less is a community that resides within the province of ONTARIO… A province that is 96 percent (OR MORE) an English dominated province. Therefore, it does not seem unreasonable to expect that the citizens who have chosen to live in the Vanier area within the province of Ontario would/SHOULD expect to have to carry out a decent portion of their daily lives in the English language and thus MOST, if not ALL, should be bilingual enough to do so, therefore with this in mind it seems this officer should encounter VERY FEW if ANY language issues at all. We do understand, Mr. Bordeleau, when you say “We are a flexible organization that takes into consideration all the needs of our communities,” and we, as the majority English speaking citizens of this province/country are “FLEXIBLE” AS WELL but, one has to agree that this flexibility must have some “reasonable” limits.

    And after all, isn’t it a bit over board to allow “one letter” from the so called “Members of the Vanier Community Association” to dictate hiring policy’s to this extent? Not to mention their dictated precedence over this young offices expressed desire to work in that community.

    This “language issue” and the whole idea of catering to such a small minority over the will of the vast majority has gotten WAY OUT OF hand in this province and in this country in general. If the decision to not allow this officer to work in Vanier as a result of such a minor issue is allowed to stand, we the members of OUR “citizenry of Ontario community group” intend to take our concerns about this directly to our political representative at the highest levels within our federal and provincial governments.

    In closing, we the majority tax paying citizens of this province/country strongly agree with the president of the Ottawa Police Association Sgt. Matt Skof who wrote, “The prejudice shown against someone because of language is sad, especially today,”

    We urge you to re-consider Mr. Bordeleau and allow this officer to take “his” posting in Vanier.

    Thank you…

  32. Kenneth T. Tellis   September 26, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    Patrice Boucher is a canadien, the code name for a Metis. Just as the people in Kebec use the term Kebecois, which is a code name for a Metis.

  33. Dave Windsor   September 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    Gee Stellaby*, there you go again, sputing off and still collection those Queen Elizabeth $20.00 bills in your pay cheque. How sad.
    Quebec needs you more. Perhaps they will show Charles de Gualle’s face on their new peso’s value bills aye. Or heavens sake someone from the former bloc or FLQ.

  34. Highlander   September 26, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    A Third world country they would be …….go for it ,we don’t need the welfare state that Quebec is .

    Quebec welfare state cant afford to walk away from the gravy train that is Canada ,but are willing to bite the hand that feeds them .

    You are the child that is pampered but complain that Mom and Dad do not treat them well but have their hands out to get more money?
    You want money sign “THE DAMN CONSTITUTION” then maybe crumbs will go your way for your exorbitant social programs to keep your people on the welfare system.

    If not separate and pay for it yourself ……… that’s right you expect others to pay for it ….right?

    If such a proud people? …….show it support yourself!

  35. Dave Windsor   September 27, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    To Patrick B….
    Checked out your sites show above you said were bilingual. Must say i was surprise cause if one was to check the headers I have to admit that ‘some’ are bi.. yet most are French ONLY my friend.
    In Ontario you will find full bi-sites. Check out for yourself.

  36. Guy Friendly   September 27, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    What right does this francophone group have to go into a Tim Hortons and have a member question an employee over her ability to speak French? The manager should have called the police and had this person charged with harassment.

  37. edudyorlik   September 28, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Oh and, hey Patrick. I notice you have been silent (yup get out those crickets again) and have not commented on the “fact” (you just MUST be starting to really dislike “facts” by now eh Patrick?) that i proved you wrong and showed how those web sites were NOT very “accommodating”, (a word your ilk seem to be fond of) to the English as you erroneously tried to say they were. Leave it to the French to hide things at the second layer like that.

  38. Patrick boucher   September 28, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Kilroy, just read your comments. I really don,t read everything you write, some of your replies are a bit on the long winded and get a little repetitious.

    -Dave your right, but at least the service is there. Is it perfect, nope.
    – On the montfort site, you press acceuil, then you press english. You will get the full translation. I have been to Montfort more then ounce and I assure you that service in that hospital is impeccable ..in english and in french. And our former conservative premier mr harris, Mr hudaks good buddy, wanted to close it!! SHAME!!!

  39. stellabystarlight   September 28, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Patrick….je suis d’accord. C’est postes sont vraiment pas interessant et trop long pour rien. Aux moins s’il avait quelque chose de neuf a dire. Toujours les meme platitude **s**

  40. edudyorlik   September 28, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    Not only do you spew atrocious misinformation Patrick, but you are also extremely incompetent when it comes to following directions and instructions. If you did what i said, (click “join our team” then “jobs available now”) exactly how i explained in the previous post you would clearly see that the next page is the “Catégories d’emploi” which should be in English but NOT… They are the job postings in French ONLY… I am sure others have, or will, try it and once again you will be proven WRONG despite carrying on as if you are right. That seems to be a trait of yours. “Pretending that “your truth” is “THEEEEE truth.”

    News flash: Just because something is true somewhere between your ears Patrick doesn’t make it so in the “real world.” IE: Bill 101 not being a fascist law according to you and your rose colored glasses. Bzzzzzt, WRONG. Off the stage. Gum on the nose and go stand in the corner.

    I also notice you didn’t mention the “French only” area of that other web site that i proved you were wrong about as well. How convenient. Yeah, very helpful to the English it was.

    PS: Re: The Montfort. I have several newspaper articles of English people being treated with indifference by French staff there. As for saving that mostly “French” Montfort hospital in the ENGLISH DOMINATED city of Ottawa, you ould be grateful to the English majority tax payers of this province and this country as WE were the ones who PAID FOR the bulk of it.

    There, is that short enough for your small little attention span Patrick?

  41. edudyorlik   September 28, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    Guy Friendly September 27, 2012 at 7:53 pm said
    —– “What right does this francophone group have to go into a Tim Hortons and have a member question an employee over her ability to speak French? The manager should have called the police and had this person charged with harassment.”

    Absolutely right Guy Friendly. This is a private business.

    Give em an inch… 😉

  42. edudyorlik   September 28, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    Oh and Stella. The likely reason why you don’t find my posts interesting is because they are filled with “FACTS.” You know, those nasty little things you just hate to deal with. Facts like how i proved that Patricks gibberish about those web sites and how they were supposedly “accommodating the English” was completely WRONG.

  43. Patrick boucher   September 29, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    Oh my buddy kilroy, you proved nothing. I’m going to make it short and sweet, on the english side in the website you referred to, there are no job postings for unilingual anglos. The site is god forbid the lfa, BILINGUAL …oh my what a sin. you will find a link to the french side, because the jobs are for bilingual individuals.
    They do specify on the site, in english, the reasons the montfort is a good working environment. AGAIN, there are no job openings for unilingual anglos at the montfort. So, I bet you will still apply and cry discrimination later when you don’t get the job.

  44. Patrick boucher   September 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    by kilroys logic we should do away with everything that is not for the benefit of the majority, so lets do away with: elevators, handicap ramps, bike lanes, special ed education, the whole welfare system, battered women shelters…and I’m only naming a few.
    – Now I’m thinking kilroys logic, its the if it doesn’t benefit me, do away with it.

  45. concerned citizen 2   September 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    @ EDUDYORLIK

    Check this out-Montford is FRENCH ONLY TOO!!!

    Click on job posting & guess what, a BIG surprise;ALL IN FRENCH!!!!

    http://www.hopitalmontfort.com/join-our-team.cfm

    ENGLISH NEED NOT APPLY!

  46. stellabystarlight   September 29, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    yorlik…….the only thing you have proven so far is, you hate the french and would like to eliminate the language. That is the only thing that is convincing in all your post.

  47. edudyorlik   September 29, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    Stella, if you have NOT GOT IT by now you likely will NEVER GET IT. How can I hate the French if I am half French myself? And, how could i hate the French considering my mother, whom i could NEVER HATE, was a wonderful 100% FRENCH Canadian woman. What you don’t understand is THIS — What the French “are doing” in the so called, name of “saving their language and culture” IS WHAT I — “DON’T LIKE” —
    You Stella, are the only one who chooses to refer to it as, “what I hate” btw, not me).

    That being clarified, what they are doing “and what I don’t like” … is creating laws and conditions that are unfair, egocentric, fascist, selfish and as close as anyone could come to what that dictator himself did back in the day when he was trying to shape things into his vision … Back then it was, an all blond haired blue eyed race of people. He went about trying to do this EXACTLY the way Quebec is doing things now. He outlawed and eliminated everyone else that was NOT LIKE the image and concept he envisioned in his mind.

    Sound familiar? It should. You know why? Because that is EXACTLY what the French are doing and what they want for Quebec. ONLY FRENCH PEOPLE, AND FRENCH SIGNS, AND THE FRENCH FLAG etc etc. They do things all the time that prove this too.

    Removing the Canadian flag = don’t want anything to do with Canada. (Not the image they envision)

    Outlawing (bill 101) the English language = don’t want anything to do with a language other than French… And so on and so on…

    But, like is common for you and your ilk. You all just don’t get it because your cause is much more paramount to you than truth, reality, and fairness. And, I hesitantly add “equality.” Why do I hesitantly add equality? Well, it is because equality is a dangerous thing to deal with when it comes to you and your ilk. It is SO VERY CLOSE to the tipping point and, as your side has demonstrated time and time again, once you see an opportunity there is not much hesitation to push — just that one little bit more — and take the whole pie instead of settling for the previously agreed upon concept of equality.

    Hope that wasn’t too long for that tiny little attention span you keep whining about. I am sure there are others who will appreciate this message.
    I guess i am sorry if it only takes me mere minutes to write what you and Patrick seem to think takes me hours.

  48. edudyorlik   September 30, 2012 at 3:13 AM

    Patrick boucher September 29, 2012 at 9:31 am WROTE
    “AGAIN, there are no job openings for unilingual anglos at the montfort.”

    Perfect. Just perfect… That is indeed completely fair isn’t it Patrick? According to you, and your insane logic this is completely fair to all the majority unilingual English speaking tax paying citizens of this country who forked out a billion dollars
    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5zWHkeE0ujM/UGf7GLROyOI/AAAAAAAAAEs/WjJ93XlZFQ8/s1280/Montfort%2520gets%2520cash.jpg
    to re-build the Montfort and turn it into what we see today, right? A place where only bilingual applicants are welcome you say? Of course, we all know that bilingual = “French only” which is backed up by many people who have gone there and complained that “French only” staff — not bilingual but, “French only” staff — could not help them in English. AND THEN, to top it off they were treated with disdain by French staff and people in the cafeteria to boot — see article
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cWstByW0f-0/UGfyfSW_ipI/AAAAAAAAAEY/yEf_oG8020U/s640/Montfort%2520-%2520French%2520-%2520B.jpg

    OK, gotcha Patrick. To you, that is fair… Just remind me to leave word with my federal government NOT to use my tax dollars in the future for such things which are not only completely wrong and biased but also do not insure good jobs for the majority English tax paying Canadian citizens while only benefiting the tiny minority French by using that old and tired secret code word “bilingual” as a cover.

    PS: This is NOT the only case of this. I have other newspaper articles about this kind of thing at the Montfort as well.

  49. stellabystarlight   September 30, 2012 at 7:46 AM

    yorlik…..Who cares about Quebec, YOU WILL NEVER GET IT, this is Ontario. galganov who is bilingual, speaks french very well, is sending out phamplets saying why and how french should be abolished. Aren’t you from the same ilk? Is he not your fearless leader? Aren’t you all financially supporting his cause……..that says it all. If you are behind him then you are for him and his agenda, otherwise he would be on his own like before fighting a losing battle.

  50. Patrick boucher   September 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM

    Kilroy, there are anglos that are bilingual, you just don’t hang around with them. Or maybe they don’t hand around with you.. at the risk of repeating myself, I’ll quote myself. Cause you clearly haven’t read my post from before:

    ¨by kilroys logic we should do away with everything that is not for the benefit of the majority, so lets do away with: elevators, handicap ramps, bike lanes, special ed education, the whole welfare system, battered women shelters…and I’m only naming a few.
    – Now I’m thinking kilroys logic, its the if it doesn’t benefit me, do away with it.”

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