Let’s help keep the momentum building.
On September 26, 2012 . . . South Stormont Council raised the bar for Ontario and the rest of Canada.
The South Stormont Council UNANIMOUSLY adopted a ground-breaking RESOLUTION to honour a section of Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms, by committing itself to NEVER infringe upon the RIGHTS of people to fully benefit from Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms, vis a vis our GUARANTEED FREEDOM of EXPRESSION, specifically in regard to the RIGHT to communicate in the language of anyone’s choice on commercial signs.
The UNRESTRICTED use of the English Language in Ontario is NOW against the law:
As of June of this year (2012), the Ontario Court of Appeal ruled that even though FORCED Bilingual Sign Laws VIOLATE Freedom of Expression . . . but, because these laws favour the French language over the English language, it is appropriate to allow municipalities to take away this FREEDOM, by forcing ENGLISH businesses to post signs in French, whether the individual merchant wishes to communicate in the other language or not.
Your inalienable right to live and work in the language of your choice has been violated. So what are you going to do about it?
SHOW UP AND BE COUNTED:
At 7:00 o’clock on November 13, 2012 at the South Glengarry Town Hall, in Lancaster at 6 OAK STREET at the corner of CTY ROAD 34, you will have the chance to be seen and heard in the language of your choice, so don’t leave the FIGHT for your FREEDOM of EXPRESSION up to others.
There is no guarantee that the Council will even want to vote on this Resolution on the 13th, likely not, since most people seem to want to leave our fight for Freedoms up to our brave troops overseas, while our political leaders are too timid to even raise their voices for our own FREEDOMS at home.
Make your voice heard and call the South Glengarry Council to tell them that you want them to pass this resolution in support of Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Township office – 613 347-1166
Call now and tell everyone you know to call too.
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BALONEY! Does that mean that I could work in german, and if i can’t my rights would be violated ? This is such a crock. Under the guise of freedom of expression, some say their rights are being violated. Freedom of expression also has limits. Hateful propaganda is not freedom of expression. Also, the city any city as the right to promote the 2 founding cultures of our country. You can work as a unilingual person, just don’t apply for a job that requires bilingualism. Asking others to learn a language when you aren’t willing to at least return the favor…is not fair.
Richard tremblay November 2, 2012 at 2:15 pm
” Also, the city any city as the right to promote the 2 founding cultures of our country. You can work as a unilingual person, just don’t apply for a job that requires bilingualism.”
Your first line what about any city in Quebec?
Why can’t I apply for any job that requires bilingualism?
What if I have the education and Experience does that mean language is superior to education?
“Asking others to learn a language when you aren’t willing to at least return the favor…is not fair.”
Really
What about in Quebec ,English is near outlawed.
@ Richard Tremblay. These bozos aren’t too far removed from any other supremest outfit. They wrap themselves in bs causes like “freedom and fairness” but the veneer is pretty thin. It’s no longer acceptable to go after visible minorities, so this is the next best target for their pent up anger.
Hey Bigot Tremblay,
I suppose yes you’re right! There is only ‘two’ founding cultures in our country!
You wrote, “Also, the city any city as the right to promote the 2 founding cultures of our country.”
I guess good goof you forgot the contributions of Canada’s Aboriginal peoples; did you not?
“You can work as a unilingual person, just don’t apply for a job that requires bilingualism.”
Got news for you; take your blinders off. Try finding a job that doesn’t require bilingualism. Increasingly minimum wage jobs require bilingualism too. Oh yeah, I know of plenty of people who are bilingual or even trilingual but still do not know French. They can’t find good work.
“Freedom of expression also has limits. Hateful propaganda is not freedom of expression.”
I encourage you to do your best to look at the by-laws of La Nation, sir. Under their supposed free laws, you could actually print hate propaganda – so long as it is in French and English. As-a-matter of fact, I wrote a Letter to CFN a month or two ago outlining the ridiculousness of it. Hey Jamie, could you print that letter for Richard’s sake here!
“Under the guise of freedom of expression, some say their rights are being violated.”
They are Richard! In four municipalities in Ontario, you can’t advertise in any language of your choice. It has to be in both English and French! Where is the fairness in that?
I’m telling you, with some people here including yourself, I’m beginning to lose faith in the idea of respecting my so-called elders. I’m tired of educating the likes of you. Actually, I post moreso to ensure that the public doesn’t continue to be ‘had’ by the likes of your French Separatist spells.
Cory
OMG…this is funny!!
Who cares what language a sign is written in. It’s the service and prices that count, that is what attracts customers. Never heard of anyone who refused to enter an establishment because of the language on a sign.
So SS voted for language of choice on signs…..what did it change? What have the stores gained? Pathetic!!!
It is a pity that Francophones like Richard Tremblay think that forcing French on English-speaking Canadians does not violate the Charter’s Section 2b “Freedom of Expression”. The word, “Freedom” means the absence of force which is imposed by law. I suppose the French mind-set accepts the concept of “force” when it is to their benefit. That is the only way that minorities can force majorities to do what they want i.e. pass laws against the interests of the majority. However, when the majority tries to pass laws that takes away the element of “force”, all hell breaks loose!!! They don’t seem to understand the concept of “democracy” which is rule by the majority for the good of the majority. Why is it that they don’t seem to object to the situation in Quebec where the French majority have been able to use their majority to pass anti-English laws?
Richard, you can work in German if you have a boss that allows you to and if your customers don’t object. However, you must first of all find such a boss.
What we’re asking for is “FREEDOM” from coercive laws, which is our right in a free society. You seem to have a problem understanding that.
Richard you say “Asking others to learn a language when you aren’t willing to at least return the favor…is not fair.
Richard, making the attempt to learn French and to not be given credit for it is not FAIR EITHER. Listing a job as bilingual, A-Level French, for no good reason except to bring up the numbers, RICHARD IS NOT FAIR EITHER.
Asking our Auditor General who was attempting to answer the French question to find a better place to practice was not fair either Richard. That was down right disrespectful.
Thanks Howard. I will make that call.
Richard tremblay@
November 2, 2012 at 2:15 pmAsking others to learn a language when you aren’t willing to at least return the favor…is not fair.
Not fair? What in heavens name do the French (YOU) know about fairness? They outlaw the common language of Canada in their own “province” which they treat as if it is there own damn country. WHICH btw IT IS NOT. It is JUST a province. And then declare that this “province” is unilingual French while demanding the ROC be bilingual just to suite them. What the hell kind of fairness is that?
Richard T wrote, “You can work as a unilingual person, just don’t apply for a job that requires bilingualism.”
It’s utterly insane that practically 100% of the jobs be posted as bilingual only in a country whose “common” language is 97 % English.
Richard. You seem to have forgotten that German is NOT an “official” language in Canada. I think that people with that attitude do far more damage to their cause than anything that we could write.
Canadians and I include all of them, have been raised to believe that while life isn’t fair. But they also have been taught that to make life even more unfair is something that is simply not tolerable.
Most importantly, the Crown has no business telling anyone, even you, how to best serve the public in your own establishment. It is beyond their powers to enact or enforce such a devisive and polarizing law. It is about time that we began to put government back in it’s place, and this seems to me to as good a place to start as any.
Hi
Really have to wonder why the radical french fringe would be upset over this:
“The South Stormont Council UNANIMOUSLY adopted a ground-breaking RESOLUTION to honour a section of Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms, by committing itself to NEVER infringe upon the RIGHTS of people to fully benefit from Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms, vis a vis our GUARANTEED FREEDOM of EXPRESSION, specifically in regard to the RIGHT to communicate in the language of anyone’s choice on commercial signs”.
Believe the issue for the french minority is they don’t really want equality with the English….they want domination over the English! Hence their outcry against linguistic freedom for all languages.
What is the big deal if you want to advertise your signage in french, be my guest. If you want to use Italian, do so. If, the English majority chooses English, wonderful. Think that what the french are really worried about is that businesses will opt for English only signage, instead of french or bilingual (english/french).
For the record, I do shop based on my language preferences and therefore patronise English establishments/services/goods, solely. Of course, the french minority are free to only patronise french establishments. See, it’s a “win, win” situation for us all!
Problem solved…how easy was that? Oh…am smiling see:)
Interesting. My comment at 3:51 pm is still awaiting moderation (approval).
Carry on Linguistic Freedom Fighters! Humanity’s very existence is in your hands. May the God of English Supremacy be at and on your side.
@ Ed
Your comment was probably not fair, not intelligent or didn’t make any sense. Perhaps your English isn’t A- level so the message isn’t clear to post LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go Howard. I’ll be there to support you and I’ll be making the call to the township to support Freedom of Expression!!!!!!
To Mr Tremblay.
Let’s reverse the tables to make the point. How would you feel and what would be your reaction if we had mandatory English as a job
requirement? Moreover, how would you feel if preference was then given to people with English or other non-French names regardless of competence. How would you like to be told your English language skill wasn’t up to our standards.
Are you getting the point.
We English speaking people have never put language above skill and eduction. I have employed many people in Canada, some French Canadians and others who couldn’t speak English or French but they had the skills needed to do the job.
We English are often called racists, rednecks, anti-French et al
but that is a misnomer, nothing further from the truth. It is people like you that are the racists.
Ed you be so quick to judge ,not so smart either:
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@ Richard Tremblay. These bozos aren’t too far removed from any other supremest outfit. They wrap themselves in bs causes like “freedom and fairness” but the veneer is pretty thin. It’s no longer acceptable to go after visible minorities, so this is the next best target for their pent up anger.
Live in your own little bigot world buddy,we don’t have issues with minorities your speaking of your friend Stella -we have issues with French zealots like you -where French first no matter the impact on others .
So us defending our rights to be equal offends you?
@Colleen McIntosh RE: November 2, 2012 at 7:11 pm POST.
Well said, and i believe you’re right. They don’t want equality or anything near that. Supremacy seems to be the goal. Look at the proof. The “province” of Quebec. No equality there. Squashed English and French supremacy. Most enclaves in Eastern Ontario with large French populations do not have French & English signs that are equal. It’s either larger French or ONLY French. So, even outside of the “province”of Quebec they show they want dominance and not equality.
Remember, bilingualism = French only …
(in case the equals sign doesn’t appear, as it sometimes doesn’t)
Remember, bilingualism – equals – French only …
PS You’re “Oh…am smiling see:) ” was VERY cute Colleen. 🙂
This radical french guy is not frustrated or angry. YOu chose the easy way. Stormont dundas only wanted to put up a show, and only local news covered it. BIg woop. Thing of it is, to speak english is easy, 76 percent majority across Canada. You chose the easy way out, you speak english, giver yourself a challenge you speak french.
When quebec leaves all of this bilingualism nonsense will hopefully be gone with it, and good riddance.
Lets hope quebec goes real quick, there is NOTHING Canadian about racist quebec. It is an embarrassment to Canada and Canadians.
In the meantime boycott anything bilingual, spend ONLY in unilingual establishments, do no volunteering in any bilingual facitity, including hospitals and any type of club business and the like.
Demand to be served by a culturally compatable person in federal settings: not by a francophone who speaks accented English
Jim Quealey
Sure is easy to get the language supremacists spitting fire and brimstone.
Carry on.
I can honestly say that I am so “flippin” sick of pressing “1” for English in my own country…..like what the heck is that all about???? Think about how many times one has to do this….even at bank machines!!!!!
@ Lolochuck
Another DOUBLE STANDARD…
During office hours (outside of those times you’ll get an automated attendant who is bilingual), call the Eastern Ontario Health Unit in Alexandria 613 525-1112, and be prepared to be answered and greeted in French ONLY.
“Who cares what language a sign is written in”. The lady (stella) doth protest too much, methinks.
Colleen, the french minority are not only free to patronize only french establishments – they DO patronize only french establishments. It’s an unwritten rule among the tribe. They buy from anglos only if they cannot get it from the french.
I now patronize only English establishments.
Stella writes, “Who cares what language a sign is written in”? Obviously the French-speakers care – that is why they passed sign by-laws that forced the use of French on English businesses that don’t think French is needed.
It is very clear from the French posters that the concept of “Freedom” of speech, expression, choice, etc. don’t mean very much to them. This could be because the French are used to being told how to live and what to do – they are used to intrusive laws – the “top-down” society which takes directions from their leaders.
That is why we, the non-French, must fight for our right to this Charter-guaranteed freedom. If we don’t fight them all the way, we will lose our place in Canada. Domination by the minority French is a situation that we must NEVER allow!!!
Hello edudyorlik,
Your preaching to the choir, my friend. Well said!
Time to cue the crickets….:)
Hello james quealey and Pete,
Thank you, so much for joining the discussion. Completely agree and believe that the English majority should follow suit.
Patronise English, only businesses. Buy and purchase all services, exports and merchandise from English businesses.
As the majority are English, they will cater to their target market and will grow and prosper. As the minority french cater to their much smaller target market, they will suffer the economic consequences of those business decisions.
This is not anti-french talk, this is simple business sense and good economics!
We’ll see who wins in the end:)
The Ontario Court of Appeal alters the Charter of Rights and Freedoms because a minority needs help. Business owners(and Councils) in 4 eastern Ontario do not stand up to protect a right that was removed. Politicians find this too controversal. More jobs than need be are listed as bilingual and few question it.
Do we need Veteran’s to remind us what rights and freedoms are? Marios listened and removed the fleur d ly pin from her poppy, people, show up, stand up, future generations are depending on you!
Numbers are so much more powerful than opinions
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Census+Languages+major+Canadian+cities/7438860/story.html
It is really so pathectic how french bigots & racists get so upset that their power over English rights have been diminished in South Stormont Township.We are starting to push back!!! Kudos to Mayor Bryan McGillis & Deputy Mayor Tammy Grant & Howard Galganov & Thank You so much for standing up for us.
I for one wish to know by outside signage because I will patronise only English business,if I can’t find respect for my language & culture outside…I sure will not find it inside. The french can do likewise. Am smiling also….;)
P.S. Bravo Colleen, as usual, when you write a letter,I think, ” Wish I had said that”
Hellloooooooooo ALL you taxpayers are paying for those HUGE FRENCH billboards posted on Brookdale Avenue North. If you doin’t speak French then they aren’t for you…..
…….just like the government jobs
…….Just like the nursing postions at CCH
…….Just like the jobs at the Eastern Ontario Health Unit
…….Just like the FRENCH ONLY health clinics that are popping up
up all over Eastern Ontario(nope there is not just one)
…….Just like the call for all judges to be bilingual(therefore
advanced French)
I could go on and on!
People this is NOT anti-French. It is anti-takeover of the English majority!!! Do you like paying your hard earned cash to pay for FORCED BILINGUALISM where you live? Then get off your behind and save yourself…..especially your children and grandchildren. Be a leader and talk to your children about what is going on. Teach them to stand up for what is right. DISCRIMINATION MUST STOP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Richard Tremblay
If, to quote from yourself, “English is so easy” end quote, why would you want anyone to learn French?
@Pete,
You are missing two points:
1. Any person or business should have the right to put up sign in a language(s) of their choice. Not so in Quebec or Russell Township.
2. The written sign language infers that the business can be conducted in the spoken sign language(s). That is not necessarily so. For example, in Vancouver there are many Chinese signs and the business language would be likewise. The issue is being free to use whatever language YOU choose, not a language mandated by someone else.
If you don’t care the steam roller will run you down.
Hello Mariah,
You, too bring up an valid point: “I for one wish to know by outside signage because I will patronise only English business,if I can’t find respect for my language & culture outside…I sure will not find it inside. The french can do likewise.”
If, I were french and the signage was french….I would be expecting french services were available inside the premises of the store. Same thing for English, if English is on the signage then would be expecting English services were available inside the establishment.
If, the signage was English and in fact there was no English service available or provided, I would be very displeased because it would have been false advertising about the services available. Obviously, the same holds true in reverse for the french minority.
That’s why bilingual signage should be reflective of services available and NOT government interference or legislation. The government should not be in the “language business”. Let the individuals, businesses and market determine the language choices utilized and promoted!
Still smiling….:)
Just to give you Richard an example of positing bilingual when not necessary. A few years ago when my children were looking for student summer work and while checking out the HRDC job bank and the Job Zone d’Emploi for jobs in Cornwall I was discouraged with how many good jobs were posted bilingual in the basic posting. I opened up a few and yes and where it stated Language Required, Speak English, Read English, Write English, it also indicated Speak French, Read French and Write French, but I happened to notice in the description of the job it actually said bilingual an asset. I couldn’t believe how many I found like this. Do they not know what ASSET means? Both the federal government web site and the provincial/municipal site. I called Job Zone d’Emploi and they told me they had to enter the data that way because the database didn’t allow any other way to enter this when both languages were mentioned in the description……..I said WHAT? All these jobs that my children overlooked because as Richard puts it, if it says bilingual don’t apply.” I did follow up and they did change it for a while and only entered English, so I give them credit for at least trying to correct this. As for the federal government web site. I tried to reach the people responsible but that lead to a dead end. Contacted MP Lauzon too but we all know where that goes. We all also know how a student jobs can lead to full time after graduation and this is something people in positions of finding work for the student should at least put some effort into thinking.
The aussies have the right idea. Wish we could do this.
From Australia:
New Telephone Greeting:
Wouldn’t it be amazing, if this caught on,
All over the country…?
‘GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO “CENTRELINK”
THE AUSTRALIAN SOCIAL SERVICES AND BENEFITS OFFICE’
“Press ‘1’ if you speak English.”
If not, ”Press ”2” to disconnect until you can.”
oops …that’s led to a dead end…I guess I must be thinking “heavy” this morning. It’s how my head feels about all of this. Needs to lighten up soon.
A HUGE thanks to Beth Trudeau Canadians for Language Fairness for shedding light about the REAL COST of FORCED BILINGUALISM & the brain drain occurring in Eastern Ontario!
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/bilingualism-gone-too-far/1942949034001
Debra the real cost of bilingualism has been established already. LFA multiplied the true figure of bilingualism by 100. The fraser institute said it, the cost is minimal and the cost is less a half a percent of the GDP.
Kim and others talk about freedom of expression. Well at the last meeting they sure weren’t giving monsieur lecompte his due freedom of expression. Wasn’t shee one of the hens cackling up front preventing monsieur lecompte from voicing his opinion. PRactice what you preach kim !!
Richard tremblay RE: November 2, 2012 at 9:02 pm POST
Richard wrote: “You chose the easy way out, you speak english, giver yourself a challenge you speak French”
That is the whole problem, and the whole point. You and your ilk — just DO NOT seem to get it — Richard. Many English people would ultimately challenge themselves to learn French but the English people detest (as you would also)being forced because of unfair practices by their own government that favor the minority in a way that is soooooo unreasonable that something just has to crack. And, what’s worse is the English majority are the ones that provide MOST of the funding for this French cause (a cause/policy that goes against them) the most. How unfair is that? Oh, that’s right, I almost forgot, you and your side rarely acknowledge these kinds of truths. You just move on and ignore these realities as if they don’t exist.
MAJORITY MEANS NOTHING EXCEPT AT ELECTIONS!!!
Kim……we don’t care what laws they pass in Quebec…..comprends-tu? Nous demeurons en Ontario.
This takes the cake….the english are now only going to patronize english stores…..this is getting more hilarious and more juvenile by the day. What is even funnier the lame brains who read this are congratulating each other on such a wonderful idea LOL.
Soc you know what you can do with your numbers…..anyone can find numbers to support their cause……it’s opinions from whoever whats to opine…….it means squat! Keep doing the research though it’s a nice pastime **smile**
Know what? You guys are the only ones who are battling ….not the french. What is the BIG DEAL IF THE SIGNAGE LAWS CHANGE? This is LAUGHABLE…LOL You are the only guys who care….FOR WHAT? WHAT DOES IT CHANGE IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE? So they pass a law saying you can put up signs in any language……..BIG DEAL!!!…..THEN WHAT? So you won……what did you really win? Bragging rights? The honor of saying we made history. I doubt this ever makes history….but if it did, you will be remembered as the gang who divided the french from the english……SOME HONOR!!!
Typo…..SOC…..you know what you can do with your numbers….anyone can find numbers to support their cause….it’s opinions from whoever that wants to opine……it means squat.
Kilroy, at less then half a percent of the GDP. I think the french people pay taxes as well, we pay our fair share.
Stella’s name calling is getting laughable, boy is she getting upset while trying & failing to hide her displeasure that the English & french can put whatever language pleases them on their signs,I had a great laugh,thank you Stella, Keep smiling…I am;)
stellabystarlight November 3, 2012 at 10:16 am
My god girl your ranting! Forgot to take your meds,you are barely coherent .
You really do have psychiatric issues ,honesty if you haven’t seeked help ,may I suggest you do.
Usually under stressful circumstances does these issues come out.
I am not quite sure why you would be stressed ,for others standing up for their fair rights?
Richard no more needed to be said you have proven yourself.a bigot.
Someone said, “you will be remembered as the gang who divided the french from the english……SOME HONOR!!!”
To which i reply… That was a done deal MANY years ago when the French attempted the first separation my dear. And YES, they are remember for that along with the other two times they tried to separate. Not to mention their idiotic laws that outlaw the common language of this country in “that province”. Oh, In case you forgot, that outlawed language would be ENGLISH.
@Richard tremblay RE: November 3, 2012 at 10:20 am POST
Richard wrote, “Kilroy, at less then half a percent of the GDP. I think the french people pay taxes as well, we pay our fair share.”
I normally don’t get into “the math” of things but this one is JUST TOO obvious. If the “French” portion of the population of ALL of Canada is (let’s, for arguments sake give it 20% give or take) That means that 80% of the tax base is from those, “OTHER THAN French.”
Sorry there Richard. I wouldn’t call 20% a “fair share.”
It may be fair from your skewed perspective within the infamous little “play on words” world the French seem to live in and use …
YOU KNOW,
— Bilingual really means French
— Canada should be a bilingual country as they declare themselves unilingual French only. This is a good one… Like how they slipped this on in.
— All job postings should be listed bilingual in areas where there are only 2% French
— And the infamous, Marois one… “Don’t worry, your rights will be fully protected.” RIGHT!!! CODE for … We will pass a bill stronger than bill 101 to take away even more of the English rights but we’ll spew this garbage to you so you swallow it down and sit tight and don’t freak out until are done doing it.
All likely fair in your mind I am sure.
You MAY believe it is fair in a “just” kind of way but that CERTAINLY DOES NOT make it fair in a “fair share” as in “EQUAL” type of way. The portion that the French put in is likely spent on the process of getting ready to take care of — the processes. You know, turning on the lights and getting ready in the morning. 🙂
Richard I put a lot of stuff out there for you but I never get a response from you…what’s up with that?
Ken, I am missing “two points”? I hate to say, but …go and learn the English language to the same level I did.
“What is the BIG DEAL IF THE SIGNAGE LAWS CHANGE? This is LAUGHABLE…FOR WHAT? WHAT DOES IT CHANGE IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE?”
The lady (stella) doth protest too much, me thinks 🙂
@Rosie RE: November 3, 2012 at 2:20 pm POST
Rosie wrote, “Richard I put a lot of stuff out there for you but I never get a response from you…what’s up with that?”
That’s the old ploy they ALL seem to use Rosie. Whenever the info is something that will PROVE them wrong they completely ignore it.
Of course, then then spew something that sends everyone off in a different direction cause it’s so infuriating. We’re all getting used to it now.
Rosie, sorry, i try to read most of the posts but there are so many with the name richard…i might miss a few. Kilroy, i know now why you should stick to making videos math isn’t your forte. Less then half a percent of the gdp for the OLA, less 0.08 percent of the national revenue of the federal government. So if 22 percent of canadians are french speaking and we ask less then 1 percent of the country s budget..is that asking too much..less then 1 percent of the budget, less then half a percent of the gdp for the OLA.