CFN – Language Fairness for All held a rally in front of the Cornwall Community Hospital this afternoon in support of Heather Villeneuve, the medical lab tech who claims that she can’t get a job at CCH due to oppressive bilingual language requirements, as per CFN’s recent report.
Heather finds herself pumping gas for a living rather than working in the job for which she is trained – a job that would allow her to pay off her college debt. She explained that hospital Lab Technicians have minimal contact with the public, yet she is denied the opportunity to work at the Cornwall Community Hospital because she isn’t high level French qualified. But, then again, that can likely be said of the vast majority of Cornwallites who claim to speak French.
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So why does the hospital throw that barrier in front of Anglophones and other non-Francophones?? Why do applicants whose first language is not French have to acquire a level of proficiency in French which far surpasses that of the people whom they seek to serve? Can Helene Periard, Jeanette Despatie, Jean Lecompte or anyone else provide a believable answer to the question?
She “didn’t realize how much trouble the entire community was having with this issue … we need to make everyone aware of the discrimination that’s happening here.”
In our video clip viewers will hear Villeneuve speak of a plight she shares with a rapidly increasing number of working people here in Ontario, and spreading across the country, that of finding no fairness in language laws and other policies which, according to language rights activists like Howard Galganov, infringe upon the rights of us all. LFA spokesman, Chris Cameron, also spoke to us on camera. He reports having received complaints from area business people who are allegedly being pressured by local politicians and City employees to replace their unilingual English commercial signage with, you guessed it, “bilingual” signs.
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It makes no matter whether or not the business owner and staff can speak English and French, as would be implied by the displaying of such signs. Can you imagine how many thousands of signs there are in Cornwall alone that would have to be tossed out and replaced with bilingual signs, and at what cost, and for what purpose! Remember, we’re talking any sign that isn’t 50/50 English/French. Under these oppressive sign bylaws (which Cornwall hasn’t OFFICIALLY adopted yet), all-French, all-English, all-any other language of your choice signage would have to go – even if the business’ customers speak neither English nor French! Hello!
Cameron ended his presentation with an appeal for everyone to stand up for the inalienable right of Canadians to freedom of speech, a right that is supposed to be guaranteed by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, a right which at least one judge has gone on record as saying can be over-ruled. He invites everyone to attend the 7 p.m. November 13th meeting of the South Glengarry Township Council where Howard Galganov will make an appeal that the Council adopt a Resolution, similar to the recent Bylaw of South Stormont, agreeing NEVER to trample on the right of Canadian’s to express themselves in the language of their choice. Click here for more info.
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OMG……here we go again!!! Instead of picket the CCH, why don’t they picket the gov offices to try and get more jobs for Cornwall, especially that more than 100 are losing their jobs at teleperformance.
According to an article in the SF, a staff worker said that a unilingual english person was just hired, which proves that cameron’s and the g’s accusations are unfounded.
Picketing certainly won’t help someone get hired nor would they likely be a chosen candidate for a promotion.
.. if a better educated former PQ person wants to move to ONtario because of all the “language” and political uncertainty in Province of Quebec.. and they qualify for the same lab tech job with on the job experience how does that help anyone in Ontario? a displaced worker has every right to move from province to province… language notwithstanding… good luck Ms Villeneuve . its a tough job market as it is and most unemployed will tell you that..experience is also needed…in many cases that is probably the trump card..
stellabystarlight
November 8, 2012 at 8:42 am
“According to an article in the SF, a staff worker said that a unilingual english person was just hired,”
TOKEN!
“Picketing certainly won’t help someone get hired nor would they likely be a chosen candidate for a promotion.”
Its standing up for your rights Stella
CCH is 50% bilingual in a 21 % community 2x+ the representation in the community -THIS IS DISCRIMINATION .
9 french only clinics ?
100% bilingual health unit ?
Federal gov 65% francophone hires -is one of these you Stella
Provincial hires 60% Francophones
Hey people not posting :All of this with your tax paying money.
Majority sitting silent : You can pay the majority of taxes in this province but you just cant work for your own government!!!
I wonder if business closure signs will also have to be bilingual? Someone should check out Teleperformance to see if it is, or maybe Star Tek.
You have my support, Heather! Unfair employment for Anglophones. There is their a push to bring in French speaking people from aboard ? This is completely wrong.
Heather, you are very brave to come forward to tell us your problems with this discriminatory policy of putting proficiency in a minority language ahead of qualification & experience. It is sad that your years of education has gone to waste. I don’t usually like to encourage people to move out of an area, where their skills are not appreciated, to another part of the country where they would be. At least half a million English-speakers had to leave Quebec because of the French zealots there. This has made it even easier for the French zealots to become even more draconian in their hatred of the English-speakers.
What else can you do? You can stay and fight along with all those brave people in Cornwall who are just starting to understand just how unreasonable the FLSA is. To require that ALL positions must be filled by English-speakers who are required to pass the French-language tests which are set at a higher level than the English-language tests set for the Francophones is a double-whammy!!
All that is required is a bit of common sense.
A quota system would solve this situation. Hire on the basis of the proportion of French-speakers. 20% French-speakers in the community should only necessitate the hiring of 20% French-speaking employees.
What’s wrong with that formula?
I’m shocked to hear that the city is illegally informing Cornwall business to put bilingual signs against their will,what a waste of money,business already have a tough go with MP guy Lauzon on cross border shopping,Stand strong,stand up,speak up & tell Kilger and his bulldogs WHERE TO GO!!!
guessing there is a quota system. more money based on number of bilingual employees. does anyone know how much they are getting for this revenue generating initiative? i hope it is enough to offset the decline in financial support from the community as well as the negative impact on our local graduates who dont speak french.
With this massive crowd of supporters you would think the cameraman would show more than two people?????
Personally, I have been insulted ! A french person asked me how long I have been “here”. I told her I was born in Ottawa. Her reply was…why haven’t you learnt to speak french and my reply was…Pauline Marios doesn’t speak english…does she ?? Moment of silence !!
The slow sign will not only be illegal but will cost more money as it will need to be bigger to suit both languages
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@ puzzled. You darn right it is about numbers because a vote was put out to the CUPE members recently and it was accepted. Any employee who is not bilingual now has a “one-time out-of-jail, never to re-offend” opportunity to apply to a bilingual posting as long as they meet the other qualifications. However there is an exception. They cannot apply to those jobs designated absolutely bilingual by the hospital. So what does that tell you. It tells me that there are many jobs designated bilingual just because…because why? to up the numbers. Now where does that put those who have been part-time for years, whose applications have been tossed aside in favour of those who were bilingual, just because. If this isn’t discrimination, what is?
@Elaine RE: November 8, 2012 at 4:26 pm POST
Elaine wrote, “Personally, I have been insulted ! A french person asked me how long I have been “here”. I told her I was born in Ottawa. Her reply was…why haven’t you learnt to speak french and my reply was…Pauline Marios doesn’t speak english…does she ?? Moment of silence !!”
Good answer Elaine. This is just the epitome of the level of entitlement these folks have. It’s just mind boggling how indoctrinated they (with their 8% population outside the province of Quebec) are to believing Canada MUST be ALL French. AND, what’s even worse, they have somehow brainwashed everyone else into thinking ALL of Canada being French is the best thing since, well… you know 🙂 Sliced something or another “-)
I am at the breaking point. Can no longer fight this or put up with all of the corruption, crap and discrimination going on in this city. Things have gone too far. I am a professional and I am throwing in the towel here. Lots of good people are fighting for fairness but I can’t afford to wait years for the results. Thanks to all who are fighting, but as for me, I will be applying out west……anywhere far away from here!!!!!! I am ashamed to say that I have worked with so many people that are afraid to stand up for their rights! I don’t want to bring my children up in such a negative and phony atmosphere!!!
Arivadarchi Cornhole!!!!!!!
mayor kilger wants bilingual signs to make cornwall an attractive choice for quebecers seeking to leave that province. more short sighted accounting. they will have access to jobs and enjoy health care and education that ontario tax payers have funded.
rightwingNutt
November 8, 2012 at 4:16 pm
“With this massive crowd of supporters you would think the cameraman would show more than two people?????”
There was 20 people protesting out there ,not for union benefits ,wage increases ,or any other form of gain other then requesting fair government hiring practices !
Think of that folks ,
How many of you are willing to continue to watch this discrimination and do nothing .
Did we not learn anything from the 1940’s Germany
Disappointed and Leaving
November 8, 2012 at 5:30 pm
“Things have gone too far. I am a professional and I am throwing in the towel here. Lots of good people are fighting for fairness but I can’t afford to wait years for the results. Thanks to all who are fighting, but as for me, I will be applying out west…”
Yet another professional leaving ,and people wonder why Cornwall hasn’t grown over 30 years ,when our young educated unilingual people leave !
Well that just makes room for the Quebecers to escape to doesn’t it?
Kim Hiring on the basis of proportional representation is discriminatory. YOu hire the best person for the job that can fulfill the requirements. And if one of those requirements is to be bilingual and answer 100 percent of your clientele instead of 76 %…well that could mean a loss of your profit margin. Then bilingualism is a good idea and a necessity …
Disappointed and leaving…….have a safe trip and good luck to you!!! Thinking if you are moving west you may have to learn Chinese for a better future. Don’t do like most english did here and refuse to learn the country’s both official languages. When out West if they suggest you learn an Asian language……learn it, it will pay off.
OLA still says Canadians have equal opportunities to obtain employment in federal institutions, regardless of first language learned. Equal opportunities – not equal number of positions.
OLA also mentions composition of the work-force that should take into account the public they serve and their location. To me it means that if the area is majority anglophone, the composition of the workforce should reflect that. Why Anglos allow to screw themselves in their own country? Let us follow Quebec lead.
Franco zealots perverted interpretation and implementation of OLA, and our governments look the other way. That is unacceptable!
Richard tremblay
November 8, 2012 at 6:53 pm
“YOu hire the best person for the job that can fulfill the requirements. And if one of those requirements is to be bilingual and answer 100 percent of your clientele instead of 76 %…well that could mean a loss of your profit margin.”
But choosing from 17% of the population and refusing to even look at other well educated and experienced because they are not bilingual means -Language is more important then Education-therefore not the best person is hired.
Do you not see the logic in that?
stellabystarlight
November 8, 2012 at 7:31 pm
“Don’t do like most english did here and refuse to learn the country’s both official languages. When out West if they suggest you learn an Asian language……learn it, it will pay off.”
Did they refuse to learn ?But the difference out west is the other languages are not forced on you ,by having 65% of federal jobs “Bilingual” which means french.Choices should not be limited to language ..but education and experience!
I’m surprised you didn’t smile that another anglo is leaving the area Stella?
Richard, the Requirements you mention are artificial, and the word bilingual being added to the job, does not really mean the language is needed.
Highlander
On, Did we not learn anything from the 1940′s Germany
He may have had it right? Globalization does not work
If there is a job opportunity and a choice between two candidates, one who qualifies on education and merit, and the other not quite as qualified but with a French name, guess who gets the promotion or job. I’ve been there, witnessed it many times, it’s a fact.
Yesterday Rob Nicholson, Minister of Justice posed the question:
What is more important, Merit, or bilingualism?
Anglophones will answer Merit, Francophones will answer Bilingualism. Go figure out why.
To Richard Tremblay,
Quote from you comment: if one of those requirements is to be bilingual and answer 100 percent of your clientele instead of 76 %…well that could mean a loss of your profit margin. Then bilingualism is a good idea and a necessity. end quote
How about a touch of reality Richard.
If the job requires 100% competence and little or no French language. That’s the way discrimination is working against
Anglophones and the whole country is losing, as you put it, “Profit”.
Equal opportnities – not equal number of positions
November 9, 2012 at 9:01 pm
“OLA also mentions composition of the work-force that should take into account the public they serve and their location. To me it means that if the area is majority anglophone, the composition of the workforce should reflect that. Why Anglos allow to screw themselves in their own country?”
well said : Anglos are generally a fair minded people and they see no wrong in providing french services :But they are now awakening to the fact that those services are now excluding those 80% country wide and 96% in Ontario.
In Cornwall where 20% are bilingual and 551 people are french only :
One must ask OLF / FLSA definition:
OLA also mentions composition of the work-force that should take into account the public they serve and their location.
bilingual hires
Hospital -50%+
Health unit 100%
Federal institutions 65%
Ontario institutions min 65%-Courts near 80%
French only clinics in Cornwall- 3
Is the government confused as to what that said composition means?
A clearer compostion of workforce should be REPRESENTATION BY POPULATION.
Clearly the bilingual hires violates that statement of objectives from OLF/FLSA .
you do believe that Cornwall services are for more than just Cornwall people right? that these places serve more than just 46,000 people of Cornwall ..the BIG picture , and that the hospital equipment we get serves patients from across the region no matter what language they understand or speak .. you do get that right??why do you constantly pick on the french population??
Touchez! November 20, 2012 at 2:18 pm
“why do you constntly pick on the french population??”
Not the people but the biased system.So really who here does not “get it”all should be treated equally.
why are there not Mohawk services for those 13000 Mohawks ,no signs or even hire some bilingual Mohawk staff with representation by population?
Answer -all other languages are not considered an asset when one is mandated.
Questions why do you defend discriminatory hiring practices,and agree to French only clinic’s which only serve one populous?
So you agree to segregation so where’s this so called inclusiveness of bilingualism?
I`ve never heard of anyone being refused service at cornwall hospital, why do you say mohawks are refused service there?
Touchez you are another GREAT EXAMPLE of WHY BILINGUALISM will NOT WORK. Highlander NEVER said that Mohawks are refused service. Read it again!!!!!!!!!!!
“why are there not Mohawk services” ? isn`t that what Higlander typed???l lolchuck isn`t it.. like if someone needs a senior centre care bed and there are none in Cornwall available because of a long waiting list,for one of our seniors for chronic care, could a Cornwall senior be come a resident of their beautiful professional senior home for care and service..over there ??.if they have an opening.. you mean that kind of service?? for everybody.. not classified by language or religion or creed ?personally ,our First Nations have a right to distinction but that seems not to be what you are trying to say.. in this idea of yours ..NO one should have distinct services above Anglophones anywhere// isn`t it???that the message??just asking?
Touchez…….don’t you get it? The piper and his gang are bringing up Mohawk services because eventually they will try to lure them in also. They are desperately trying to enlarge the flock. When desperate…….people do desperate things to and convince people that they are being discriminated.
I don’t get the impression anyone is picking on the French population. The Cornwall Hospital is kind of ground zero since they said the morgue attendant even needed to be bilingual.
http://cornwallfreenews.com/2012/03/cornwall-ontario-community-hospital-bilingual-staffing-policy-protest-grows-march-30-2012/
Of course the hospital says it is because they signed onto the FLSA , which turns into a merry go round when questions are asked.
Eric -there was no clear answers from senior management -they informed the media it was for front line staff –
well morgue attendant is not front line nor is lab teck ,what about the kitchen staff they need to be bilingual even if they do not see the public,the list goes on for this social engineering.
management said it was the law to implement 50% staff ratios -yet when the french services minister was approached by media she informed them that it was beyond the mandate and yet it was up to the local hospital to implement .No one was sure who was responsible something.
Like that blank check for bilingualism in the government and the costs of the language for those 100 departments .
-NOT ONE DEPARTMENT knows -simply a blank check- I guess bilingualism needs no budget for we do not touch that sacred cow.
The public should be enrage by this even the francophones as the wast of unaccounted money.
Trillions -much not counted for the bilingualism budget,the feds even agreed they could not track it.
@ Stellaby starlight..i get Stella i`m curiuos about what they consider “distinct” is ! 😉
@ Eric it did not occur to you that someone from Quebec or hawkesbury or Alexandria may pass away in our terrific hospital and the coroner may have to answer some reports in french? or deal with francophone funeral home arragements?be prepared for all contingencies.. and still don`t see why including another group of people or mandate ro serve another group stops anyone else from services… it is not the case…
@Disappointed and Leaving RE: November 8, 2012 at 5:30 pm POST
Dissapointed wrote, “I am at the breaking point. Can no longer fight this or put up with all of the corruption, crap and discrimination going on in this city. Things have gone too far. I am a professional and I am throwing in the towel here. Lots of good people are fighting for fairness but I can’t afford to wait years for the results. Thanks to all who are fighting, but as for me, I will be applying out west……anywhere far away from here!!!!!!”
Sorry to hear you are packing it in. Or, should I say, “disappointed you’re leaving?”
I wonder aloud… If we all just fought back in one group here and now, perhaps it would be more of a winnable situation. After all, isn’t OUR COUNTRY something that IS worth fighting for. Especially for our children because if we don’t then this particular bilingual French cancer WILL FIND YOU eventually no matter what part of this country you go to.
Once it reaches wherever you are moving to in about say 10 or 15 years, I sure hope you’ll be ready to stand and fight by then. Opps, what am I saying. I guess you will have ZERO choice at that point as wherever you go to is likely the last place that will be struck by the this same old crap and at that point is either fight for the last scrap or… It’s, bonjour and comment ca vas from that point on FOR ALL CANADIANS. Yikes.. That provokes images of that short dude with the mustache.
Your choice. How about we gather for a “Canadian spring” this coming spring. You know the majority tax paying citizens of this country being democratic and patriotic… Standing up for Canada, its flag and it’s common language ENGLISH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ynXg5psAJM
or we end up with this crap EVERYWHERE in Canada…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwszx4ScaOE
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Touchez, services should be same for everyone, in the common language of the country. That common language is English. Your writings in the English language here prove that. My writings here in the English language prove that. “Distinct” services for one group have no place in a democratic society. I cannot believe that powers that be allow the country descent into tribalism.
@Richard tremblay RE: November 8, 2012 at 6:53 pm POST
Richard wrote, “Then bilingualism is a good idea and a necessity”
Yeah, the same kind of “necessity” as having a tire repair shop at the end of a narrow road that you previously spread thousands of tacks on.” Self fulfilling type of necessity. Yeah… got it… Damn Trudeau… .
There SHOULD not be any need to cater to the French in “Canada” as the “common language” of Canada is English. Why don’t the French folk take off to Russia and once there with all 8 percent of them you can start demanding that Russia provide all service in French there. They’d tell ya to take a flying leap. Just like Canada should and hopefully will do SOON.
Funny how Quebec passes a law that says workers there DON’T even have to provide English service AT ALL to ANYONE. Which is WRONG on soooo many levels .. First being they expect to be catered to in French outside of Quebec in their language (plain and simple arrogance) and second the “province of Quebec is… YES READ THIS CLEARLY and carefully STILL just A “PROVINCE” ONLY.
A province inside a country called CANADA whose “common language” is .. you got it. ENGLISH.
How about this. Quebec ALL FRENCH no fuss no muss. The French can have it. Then when travelling to that other country, “Canada” they must communicate in our language the “common language” of the country Canada. Problem solved. No be gone with ya. Go teach French people English will ya. Oh wait, practically all of then ALREADY KNOW English… How simple was that ?
Oh and… i just KNOW this will get under your skin.
Have a nice day eh — wha ha ha ha ha… 😉
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@stellabystarlight RE November 8, 2012 at 7:31 pm POST
Brightlight wrote, “When out West if they suggest you learn an Asian language……learn it, it will pay off.”
What I wouldn’t give to have you stuck in this situation FOR REAL my dear. Just to see you in the classroom practicing your Asian sentences in order to TRY to pass the test so you can get a job sweeping floors in a hospital in order to feed your family. You would be filled with so much hatred and anger. It wouldn’t be a funny scene AT ALL. 🙂
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Equal opportnities – not equal number of positions
November 9, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Wrote, “Franco zealots perverted interpretation and implementation of OLA, and our governments look the other way. That is unacceptable!
— Indeed… VERY unacceptable… Just for a moment. Try to imagine it the other way. Think student protests… that’s what THEY would be doing…
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@immigrant.. We disagree, many in Canada have french as their first language..why deny that truth!
Immigrant
November 20, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Touchez, services should be same for everyone, in the common language of the country. That common language is English. Your writings in the English language here prove that. My writings here in the English language prove that. “Distinct” services for one group have no place in a democratic society. I cannot believe that powers that be allow the country descent into tribalism.
One word Immigrant… PERFECT…
i have heard that public servants that are bilingual recieve extra pay for meeting that standard. i guess it follows that if you have more qualifications you should be compensated. i dont think they are sharing this bilingual bonus money in cornwall because if they were the morgue employee would only need to be related to an exec not bilingual.
..if you want the milk..go to the cow..ask a nurse, doctor, CT personel, x ray, OT, PT. the guy that washes the floors..next time your at the CCH, ask them..ask Tombler, Baitz, Irwin, Naoum, Menon..don’t rely on the Cornwall Free News for all your info..go to the cow..ask the CCH employees…I trust that you will get the same results from everyone..but of course you won’t ask the very people who deal day in and day out with our french and english citizens..that’s too easy..and it may not give you the results you want to hear..keep your hands over your eyes and ears..no, no, no,don’t ask the source!..that would be a waste of time and effort..I’ve been reading the same old arguement..an arguement drummed up by the misinformed and self proclaimed do-gooders who are on a mission of endless need to satisfy a very small minority..again, don’t just take my word for it..I’m only the guy who sits at the front line of The CCH dealing in it every shift..what the heck would I know?
Touchez!, Just over 97% of Ontario speaks English, the Cornwall hospital language of business is English, do we need to have all jobs bilingual in case one person from anywhere may perhaps need something? There are 200 languages ( which cover the other 3% by the way) reported in the last census, English and French are well cared for in this province.
English, Chinese or Tagalog speakers may die while on vacation in Quebec, Mexico or Peru, arrangements can be made.
..hey, a do-gooder gave me a thumbs down! that’s fine..like I said, DO NOT only take my word for it…ask a CCH employee that you know and trust…your answer is right there..if I wanted to know about cars, I’d go see a salesman or a mechanic..if I wanted my tooth pulled, I’d go see a dentist..see the trend? Be an informed citizen..go to the source..then, come back and report your findings..this is your challenge..”the answer is out there” you don’t have to look far.
@Eric,
I can only assume the Francophone zealots want the Morticien to be able to speak French to the “stiffs”. LOL
@Disappointed, very sorry but very understandable. Choose your destination carefully, duncan B.C has already turned bilingual.
Winnipeg has a whole town. Wherever you go in this great country, don’t look for a job with the Governments or Public Service, they only have unfairness and unequal job opportunities.
If you get as far as B.C, ask the people there if they were able to get a job at the Winter Olympic Games.
@Touchez, be happy you have had the ability to read, write and speak English and no one forced it upon you; now stop whining.
I learned some French of my own accord because i thought it might be useful but only found it to be so in France, Algeria and Lebanon in my travels.
Statistics Canada say there are more than 100 languages spoken in Canada but they failed to mention only French is being forced upon us ! More than 50% Chinese in Vancouver today but we don’t here the English or Chinese complaining.
Spoke to a friend this morning.. we talked about Immigrants idea that they (this group) claim english is the common language of Canada.. we disagree. just because you are using this site to communicate or any other english site does not mean english is the common language.. Immigrant, if you read any other french newspapers they will communicate in french so your argument holds no water….if you read SriLankan news paper sites they will dicuss in that language.. so no don`t buy it.. why are you picking on the french all the time?
Edudyorlik
November 20, 2012 at 8:06 pm
Touchez said@ Stellaby starlight..i get Stella i`m curiuos about what they consider “distinct” is !
Curious as to what distinct means -why should one culture have distinctness beyond others?
I guess chinese /pujabi /or arabic do not pass away and are in the morgue so hence only the need for french bilingual?right!
Ferris
November 21, 2012 at 6:09 am
Well said they need but ask the staff to see how this has affected them.
I still have a hard time fathoming how language has become more important then education.
If resume’ is not even looked at because they are not deemed “bilingual” negates that persons education and experience so people out there tell me the logic in that ?
LANGUAGE takes priority over education!!!!!!!!!!!
The reality is taken Quebec out of the equation -English with allophone’s with english as their second language still represents 96% of the population.
If you were in a predominant black neighborhood say 96 % and you owned a business would you hire within that community or would you hire outside and staff mostly non black :
what would your customers think? Racism simple as that! As you are not hiring from that community.
But its exceptable within Canadian borders .