CFN – Is it time to boycott all things Quebec? A boycott is a severe thing; but with Bill 14 looming and the strange occurrences since the last election there that never seem to be resolved could it be best if people give La Belle Province a wide berth for awhile?
Don’t get me wrong; as a former Montrealer there are many things I still love about the once great city.
But I could go a summer without Schwartz’s and steamies if it makes a statement.
Frankly I visit “back home” less and less. It’s not just the crazed roads and constant construction. It’s not just the all too more frequent customer service issues if I dare speak “Anglais”.
It’s this darn Bill 14. It’s the fact that things became so bad in Quebec that the people of Quebec decided to grant Ms Marois a government.
In Canada we still have free choice; and frankly my choice is leaning towards making my little statement. My one little token of boycotting Quebec until after Labour Day. I think I can do it.
Yes, I’ll still visit my family; but I won’t be dining or spending any money there. Do I expect my little boycott to change anything? Not really; but imagine if millions of people did?
Politicians rely on people never doing anything no matter how badly they behave. They’re used to manipulating small groups of people to grab power. When I wrote during the student tuition protests that it simply was PQ agitation I think the election results showed how right myself and many others of the same belief were.
Quebec made its choice. In some ways I think it was a good one because people can focus on the brutally ugly culture of linguistic facism that exists. Francophones in Quebec will have to realize that the only people that can save French in Quebec are Francophones. Anglophones, and Allophones are not to blame and not the issue. It’s time to stop punishing the English language and culture hoping that Quebec will become some Francophone Mecca.
Until Quebec changes its ways the results will essentially be the same.
Now the big question is why the Federal government remains so silent on what’s happening to Canadians living in Quebec that don’t subscribe to the provincially mandated madness, and why they are abdicating those citizens rights…
Jamie Gilcig – Editor – CFN
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Richard tremblay
March 23, 2013 at 11:54 pm
“All the ones that bitch and complain about language rights in Quebec don’t live in that province”
Richard tremblay
March 23, 2013 at 9:31 am
“I have been to hudson, kirkland, pointe-claire, baie-durfé (et j’en passe) and not once have I seen language being a problem. You see I actually go in Québec. I don’t go by word of mouth.”
stellabystarlight
March 23, 2013 at 7:10 pm
“Richard wrote: Anglos are fine in Québec…….absolutely right. My friends who live in Montreal can’t speak a word of english and are doing just fine…..pas de probleme. Leurs histoires sont tellement exagerees…..c’est ridicule!!”
This from a REAL Francophone living in Quebec ,but you keep Denying there isn’t an issue –
You continue to live in your little bubble yet deny a world exists outside of it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcU9DzqBU6c
@ Cory, Edudyorlik, Highlander, Eric, David. Rosie
What a long, long long, overdue breath of fresh air from THE HONORABLE MAYOR STEPHANE GENDRON Of Huntington quebec.
Finally, an honrable, reasonable and honest man, who, despite being in a province , where the answer to any public support for the Anglos, is “always acts or threats of violence”, this man is to be commended.
You are very courageous Mr. Mayor. You are also right on the money.
I would like hear, to be able to forward a message to Mayor Gendron, to let him know, he has many, may, supporters.
Is there any way we, as a grup that posts regularly , can pass on our support to him. I hve been waiting for a long time, for a francophone, in a position of prominence and power, to come out publically to identify what the language laws and issues are here , nd what they really mean
I will say this , and I really hope this somehow gets back to parliament hill. Mr. Gendron has done more in that one interview for Canadan rights, than all of the current and past Canadian M.P.`s put together. You are to be applauded, honored and recognized for this feat.
Mr. Stephane Gendron , FInally and with great honor I say to you
THANK YOU
@ pierre,
When you answer my posts from march 4th. at 1:27p.m. and 8:81 p.m. , then I will comment .
You only answer when it suites you. Sorry, this is the big leagues, to play in this sandbox, we require an answer to everyone of our queries.
David saw right through you, as we have. Answer my posts and we can go from there.
To list the number of deceptions here would take an eternity. But you can start by answering my posts , why do you ignore these posts, does the truth hurt that much . Are you afraid to be recognized as one who is in constant denial and identified as a brainwashed franophone, incapable of differenticiating between fact and opinion
@ Pierre richard, stella
See highlander’s link march 24th. 11:01 a.m.
So is the mayor of Huntington, not a credible enough source for you people to finally see what the real rationale is behind the anti- English laws in quebec ?
This is a reasonable, honest man, calling it ,as he sees it , and a francophone. Not only is he right, but he is very courageous and brave. He, and his wife, have already been targeted by the french zealots. His home and car vandalized. This is how the quebecois respond to anyone who disagrees with their anti-English policies.
This is why, a legitimate comparison can be made to nazi Germany. it is what the “brown shirts” ( nazis) did to the Jews and anyone else that they thought were going against their policies and laws.
This is the manner in which , one is treated, if they “speak out against language laws in quebec” They are terrorized intimidated and admonished . So, you can’t EVEN SPEAK OUT FOR DEMOCRACY IN quebec. classy place eh ?
This is the democracy you are proud of ? These are the kinds of actions you defend ? this is where you want people to raise their children ? In a society, that is intolerant to the English, hateful to them, and promotes and encourages society to squeal on their neighbors and friends for using ENGLISH on signs or putting out a ONE PAGE NEWSLETTER IN ST AGATHE, or having the word PASTA on a menu.
IN quebec, as I have said before, language is above, health, welfare, human rights, dignity, government, money, economy , in short ABOVE ALL ELSE. That is called xenaphobia it is called, racist and most of all ANTI-DEMOCRATIC and IMMORAL
This is your quebec, pierre, richard, stella.
I ask you, when was the last time a Canadian an Anglo mayor was attacked for defending a person’s right of communication in their NATIVE language ? Anywhere in English Canada ?
In what other Canadian province, are there quasi-language cops going around measuring the size of letters in businesses ?
IN WHAT CANADIAN PROVINCE are their any language restrictions for either the french or the English ?
And the beat goes on and on and on ………
How is the french language being threatened again ? Who is threatening them ? Why have they not only survived but flourished BEFORE THE QUIET REVOLUTION AND BEFORE BILL 101
Well pierre, well stella well richard ????
From the outset you are defending the LAWS IN QUEBEC, POLICIES IN QUEBEC, THAT simply put, cannot be DEFENDED
The laws and policies that you believe in so much, are just an extension of the type of people you are , because all of you support these policies and laws , as your posts have so aptly confirmed.
Then pete, that is just sad. That for forty years you still don’t get it. Anglos in Quebec aren’t in any danger of disappearing, the language is flourishing. If you go to Vaudreuil, Pointe-Claire, Kirkland any where in the west island of Montreal, you’ll see signs and encounter more anglos then francos. What you are doing is fear mongering. You can speak english in Quebec, freely, and you know it. And you can still post signs as long as french is predominant. (bill 86)
Howard galganov is not a victim. He’s a poop disturber. HE likes to start trouble where there is no need. The man promotes the elimination of the french language in easter ontario. He is doing exactly the opposite of what he promoted in Quebec. And on top of everything else, THE MAN SPEAKS PERFECT FRENCH, and he identifies himself as a francophobe. No wonder he needed bodyguards, he’s the one starting the trouble, then he says he’s a victim.
You promote choice peter but you know darn well in the end what will happen. What has been happening for decades in Ontario and every other province but Quebec. I will come accross more and more people with french names that can’t speak a word of french. NOW THAT IS A TRAGEDY. Another tragedy is that in 1951, we were 30% of the population, and now we are barely 20 %. Where is the outcry for that??
http://genocideculturel.lequebecois.info/apercu.html
http://genocideculturel.lequebecois.info/apercu.html
BRILLIANT… ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT POST CORY.
I couldn’t have said it any better myself. I would have added the Montfort and the university of Ottawa who both “claim to be bilingual” but, that is just because if they came straight out and said what they were doing it would likely raise some eyebrows.
As a student of history, I’m sure you’ll recall this mantra spoken by several million in Germany during the 30′s and 40′s:
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In his GREAT POST CORY WROTE
“Today Germany, tomorrow the world!”
I think it is save to assume that with the politics of today, I can hear Marois shouting:
“Today Quebec, tomorrow all of Canada!”
If eradicating the English language from Quebec and Canada were not the PQ’s and some federal politician’s prerogative, then why would Marois and her separatist followers be instituting language laws outlawing the use of the English language in all facets of society?
Further, why would Ontario and Federal Government programs support French only this or that? Or the pushing of French only this or that.
“French for the Future?”
“French language education is the best choice for your child’s future.”
French only health clinics (Centre de Sante Communautaire)
French only school buses (Alexandria Ontario)
Bilingual (French hiring prerogatives for government civil service positions) (Job postings from Coast to Coast to Coast)
The importing of citizenry from French countries into Canada for all things jobs in Canada (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KQlxn7NreU) This last one was/is for you, Peter. I’m not sure if you’ve viewed this before.
Only idiots would ignore such blatant anti-English stances and think that everything is peachy in Canada – ignoring that storm clouds have already arrived over the horizon and that the rain has already begun to shower us.
Mark my words, if nothing is done now and our politicians ignore what we’re advising them, civil war will ensue.
But they can’t say we didn’t warn them, though.
Cory
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BRAVO CORY…
You are SOOOO RIGHT.
IT IS NOT about bilingualism to “THEM.”
We MUST no longer ignore this take over.
And, i am with you on this response you gave Peter …
Cory wrote, “My suggestion is to unify our 20+ groups with a protest with as much people as possible on Parliament Hill sometime this summer.”
Richard tremblay
March 24, 2013 at 1:56 pm
“What you are doing is fear mongering”
Really ?what about Mayor Gendron of Huntington Quebec being terrorized?
So that didn’t happen in your bubble world!
You are truly pathetic !
“Howard galganov is not a victim.’
So threats on his life and need for security 24 hrs a day for a year and a half doesnt make him a victim ?
Once again you are truly pathetic!
” I will come accross more and more people with french names that can’t speak a word of french. NOW THAT IS A TRAGEDY.”
I come across many Irish and Scottish names and they do not speak a word of Gaelic .”NOW THAT IS A TRAGEDY!”
Should we blame the french on that ?
PATHETIC ETHNOCENTRIC Richard Trembley!
“NOW THAT IS A TRAGEDY. Another tragedy is that in 1951, we were 30% of the population, and now we are barely 20 %. Where is the outcry for that??”
Have more kids ,teach them their culture ,do not blame other cultures for your lack of population growth.Blame the quiet revolution on this.
ETHNOCENTRIC YET AGAIN.
Richard tremblay
March 24, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Cultural genocide really ?Great site to spread Your propaganda !
Demographics have changed ,migrations of populations from different regions of the world to Canada.
How is this cultural genocide?
So you are saying that all the 200 different cultures in Canada have contributed to French cultural genocide ?
Wow how ETHNOCENTRIC is that ?
Another cultural groups was the Irish and Scottish which had a large percentage of the populations back then too,
They can lay blame to their cultural genocide as well because of demographic changes through immigration?
You really are a piece of work aren’t you Richard,you disgust me to think you are a Canadian and your ETHNOCENTRIC viewpoints that can be termed as bordering racism is shared among your ilk.
Whether you like it or not Canadian is not just French or English Canadian but the many 200 cultures that have contributed to the mosaic of which I am proud of .
If Quebecers were all have your attitude then the province is truly doomed.
@ richard
you are proving my point richard.. it is not statistics that will make your case for you.
Do you not realize, that you, quebec, L’ofice de la langue francais can, never, ESPECIALLY THROUGH LEGISLATION force another language on people., at the expense of another
richard, the Anglos HAVE disappeared, some 400,000 since bill 101.
They have a few places that are anglo communities , yes, Kirkland Pt. Claire, etc. but richard, a school system reflects the demographic of a culture. the English school system has decreased by 75% since 1970.
Howard Galganov, has never, ever said he wants to eliminate the french in eastern Ontario or anywhere else.
What he has said, he wants the RIGHT TO CHOOSE, either of the languages, or any other language for matter, to put up a sign in ANY LANGUAGE THEY WANT. Please, prove to me where he said that. I defy you to show me this, anywhere, either here, or in quebec.
The body guards were needed , because Mr. Galganov, . was correct in fighting for the rights of all Canadians to speak and do business in the language of THEIR CHOICE, in quebec, since it is a part of Canada. As I previously stated, in quebec, when one attempts, particularly in a public form, to express one’s opinions,
especially if it involves the promotion of English, then the threats, and acts of violence follow. Look at mayor Gendron in Huntington.
This is why Mr. Galganov, had to have bodyguards.
If in 1951 you were 30% of the population, without bill 101, and now you are 20% of the population with bill 101, then I think you language laws to protect your french language is a dismal failure.
quebec’s language, has never, ever, disappeared, and will not disappear in the future.The french in canada, have never, ever been threatened or were ever in dange rof disappearing. People in Canada, had made sure of that before 1960 and well before bill 101.
That you have to yourselves fight to keep your statistics up, says something about your language already. Because, someone has a french name and can’t speak English, why is that the anglophones fault ?
In a democracy people have CHOICE richard. If they choose one language over another it is THEIR CHOICE. This is what democracy is all about. I think richard, you and your ilk are having a very tough time adapting to the fact, that weather you like it or not , the french are a minority, in Canada. This is not the fault of the English, any more than it is the fault of the English that they are a majority in north america.
french schools, flourish, french business, flourishes, french culture flourishes, both in Canada, and North America . THEY ESPECIALLY FLOURISH IN QUEBEC, AND HAVE SINCE CONFEDERATION.
because someone’s name happens to be Beaulieu, and they can’t speak English, well, this is why discriminatory laws are put in place? This is why an entire province wants out. Gimmie a break richard.
it is about Power richard, and control. get rid of the anglais and we next take Canada, and we use the excuse of language inequality to do it. Nice try but there is no sale here.
@ Rosie
Thank you for your response.
I’m not sure I understand your statements:
1) the push is still on so when English teachers graduate, they end up on a supply list and they get a few days here and there.
Sounds to me Rosie, as if the Ontario teachers start off, some of them, anyways, as supplement teachers.
2) You don’t understand why the universities (which ones, Rosie?) accept students, in the teaching programs if they don’t speak French………. ?
3) when their French friend finds employment right away and they wait for years to be hired…….. ?
I’m not surprised that teachers qualified to teach French in Ontario, get hired immediately because there is a shortage of French teachers there. as there is a shortage of English teachers in Québec, except in the Montréal and Gatineau regions.
That’s what I was telling you about the rest of Québec…But it was worst with that program that Charest had forced on the teachers… Not only did we not have the necessary amount of English teachers, to teach the regular English program, but now the math, the history, the geography, ect. unilingual Francophone teachers were expected to do it, in English.
Only 12% of the schools across the province where capable to complete that program successfully .
@ peter
If I told you why I don’t answer your posts
Admin would probably just delete it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2OGCKoTykxw/S8ypGKUwWDI/AAAAAAAABlw/qDfL4Kaw3kQ/s1600/Glganov.jpg
Here you go peter…this is not the work of a victim. This is the work of a person that loves to start trouble.
@ Richard Tremblay
Just want to point out one good thing about these guys exagerations and hate mongering. Any one stupid enough to believe them will not move to Québec… And that’s a very good thing.
@ Richard Tremblay
When I think of how Galganov makes is money.
I think of the old saying ”There’s a succer born every day”.
But, I still fell sorry for those succers.
I never said this before but that’s the reason I post here, in the first place.
You see, we wrote a few times that he invited Francophone to debate with him if we disagreed with him…
It’s there in his archives
Well, I called him on that one… Two times.
He never answered.
He’s all BS.
BS for money, that is.
I agree Pierre, its on wikipedia, he left the province of Quebec not for money but for fiscal problems. And what would those fiscal problems be I wonder ? Then again I don’t. I too write on here because of Howard Galganov. ANd what is really a shame is that Highlander G is really attracting a few followers. THen again, with comments like teach it to your own…I have less and less to worry about. Highlander G has some hefty fines to pay for that abuse of the courts time. I just wonder how much money he has paid on those fines. Ce gars qui veut éliminer notre culture sous prétexte de la liberté d’expression n’est qu’un brasseur de merde.
Richard tremblay
March 24, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Show the pamphlet as a whole ,it does not show who wrote it?
Pierre
March 24, 2013 at 4:26 pm
“Any one stupid enough to believe them will not move to Québec… And that’s a very good thing.”
I guess that would be your own form of social engineering right?
Pierre
March 24, 2013 at 4:48 pm
You see, we wrote a few times that he invited Francophone to debate with him if we disagreed with him…
It’s there in his archives
Well, I called him on that one… Two times.
He never answered.
Whats the point of him to debate with stupidity?
Because if you address him the same as here ,well..lol…lol…lol it would be a complete wast of time to lol..lol..lol.. as you really have yet to make a solid view that wasn’t based on propaganda!
@R. Tremblay.
That “trouble” you refer to was started LONG ago by the French who wanted to “separate” / break away from this great country and not by Mr. Galganov.
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He was (as we all are) just re-acting to what is being forced on us.
Thanks edudyorlik for the kind comments to my last posting.
I thought about adding the Montfort but as most of my immediate family are nurses I think it would be a slap in the face. I don’t want to remind them of that situation.
As to the University of Ottawa – it just hurts too much edudyorlik. Don’t forget that that’s my university. I loved my time there and despite all of the negative press it’s been receiving as of late; I’m biased I must admit because it is my school. I miss it so much.
I only had one run in with one administrator there, once. I switched to French and all was forgotten/forgiven.
All the best,
C.
@ Pierre & Richard. It is YOUR side of this that cheats and lies and will do anything they/you can to make up the numbers and anything else you choose to fabricate as well.
BE what they need them to be ANYTHING
This video speaks about it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5H8WCbueNs&hd=1
and these articles are the proof that back it up.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T3-iPKg_kxs/UU_yeHC0lmI/AAAAAAAAAd0/8ZVU4eVluwo/s934/Macleans+-+reporting+about+Ottawa+citizen+article+re-+census.png
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/06/2006-canadian-census-believed-to-be-inaccurate.html
http://www2.canada.com/ottawacitizen/story.html?id=c406bea8-9679-41ef-a273-25b886014d60
Then there are stories like this that clearly illustrate how the justice system has been infiltrated as well.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2011/07/27/yukon-francophone-court-decision.html
Thanks edudyorlik,
Great sources ,Im sure the fraud squad will defend the right of Francophones to lie on the census.
Stella has become very proficient at spreading misconceptions maybe that group consulted with her- imperatif-francais was the group that sent the e-mail to lie on the census.
Richard tremblay(MR.ETHNOCENTRIC)
March 24, 2013 at 5:05 pm
“I too write on here because of Howard Galganov. ANd what is really a shame is that Highlander G is really attracting a few followers. THen again, with comments like teach it to your own…I have less and less to worry about”
Highlander is not Howard ,but being I no longer will advise you of this ,misinformation is only for your benefit.
The comments of teach it to your own ,was mine Highlanders but that is the reality .
Should I or others be held responsible that a Chinese person loses their mother tongue ,no that is the responsibility of the family members to maintain their language and culture NOT THE STATE.
In Canada the initial second language was Gaelic and it was spoken in Parliament ,should the french be blamed for the loss of the Gaelic language?
By Stellanotsobright ,Pierre the separatist and Richard the RA***T argument its the English who is at fault for the loss of the french language.
I have an even more interesting point:
Because French language is MANDATED for hire in ALL government institutions ,ALL other languages are not even considered an asset .
Therefore The legislation and Mandated French language has a direct impact on other languages and encourages the loss of those unique languages as they are not utilized.
Thus mandated french language encourages ethnocide of those many other cultures and languages.
So what culture is really performing ETHNOCIDE? such a loss ALL those other 200 languages.
@ edudyorlik
I have already forwarded your video to many across the land and beyond. Very good stuff. I also want to thank Cory and highlander for their great posts. Bravo to you both.
AS for “the fraud squad’s efforts to refudiate factual information, well it didn’t work in nazi Geramny in the 40″s and it won’t work here.
I was hoping we could forward all of these posts to the M.P.’s of Canada, along with the links to the videos. Sending them to Queens Park would not hurt either. All of these politicians have a public email address that hopfully some one could access.
I would do this myself, but, I have very poor eyesight and I am not at all computer savvy, given I was brought up on stencil machines, if any of you guys even know what they were.
@ pierre, richard, stella,
Why is it, you people never see the facts of history and of current events. francophones, have to lie to have their numbers inflated to get money. This is , are you ready for it ? FRAUD, the very name you people have merited , based on your posts and the propaganda you serve up here.
So, now that your fradulant acts are uncovered, what are you to do then ? This is the type of stat you expect us to beiieve, fraudlant stats ? This is what all of you use to try to prove your asserations ?
I hope that you are not reflective of the typicial francophone, but unfortunately, more and more francophones are becoming just like the “fraud squad”, and that is a real shame. Your immoral ways are now infecting the good Francophones of Canada. But thankfully, there are the Stephane Gendrons ( mayor of HUNTINGTON quebec ) of the Francohone world , that can see right through the stellas, richards, and pierres of the world.
I truly hope that Mayor Gendron , will garner support from other francophones, to support the immorality and vindictiveness of those in quebec, that see only malice and hatred toward the English there , as their mission in life.
AS my colleague in Buffalo Michael lawson said to me: What did the English ever do to the french in quebec to merit this hatred that is perpetrated against them ?
@ richard and pierre,
have any of you had to have body guards to protect you from English zealots, because you spoke up for your language and culture?
have any of you had the guts to publically stand up for what is right in the “enemy’s” back yard , quebec ?
You guys are pieces of work. Not only did Mr. galganov, stand up for the freedom of all ( this includes francophones wanting to send their children to ENGLISH school ) but he did it in a NON-VIOLENT manner and followed the legal avenues available to him.
Unlike the french, that have a long, long , history of violence and murder to get their points across.
Mr. Galagnov did not :
1) bomb anyone…… the FLQ and RIN did
2) Mr. Galganov DID not
threaten anyone ……..the french did
3) Mr. Galganov did not…. support anti- democratic laws
the french did
4) Mr. Galganov DID NOT …..Murder anyone
the french did
5) Mr. Galganov DID NOT …..Kidnapp anyone
the french did
6) Mr. Galganov DID NOT …take the law into his own hands
the french did
If you are reflective of the french in quebec, and by extension Canada, then your culture, heritage, language, society and way of life, should remain in quebec, and get the hell out of my Canada. To support, groups like the FLQ, RIN, Imperitif francais, quebec solidaire, and the like, is tantamount to treason and you should leave Canada ASAP, and don’t let the door, hit you in the ass on the way out.
To even partially support any of these groups in any capacity is criminal, immoral and racist. What kind of people are you ????
@ pierre,
I am sure you can address the posts I wrote in reference to the fact that it was the french premiers of quebec, fron 1920’s thru the 1950’s that were DIRECTLY responsible for the ENGLISH domination guebec
I also referred you to the fact that many, many francophones are leaving BECAUSE OF bill 101
What about Canada’s offer to industralize quebec in the 1940’s and 1950’s being rejected/
What about the french companies that flourished, before bill 101 ?
What a Canada, that built quebec and set up their economy so that he french there could ahve jobs and as well Canada’s encouragement that quebec educate its people?
What about this pierre ???
…he spoke up to defend the majority. He degrades the francophones out of spite. No one wanted him in Quebec cause he likes to start conflicts, that is his nature. He promotes hatred of the french language, promotes boycott of french owned stores, promotes the elimination of the french language in eastern ontario. Tout un héros que vous avez !!
Peter…you’re telling us to ¨get the hell out of my Canada.¨ I’m going to reply ¨MAKE ME¨. This country has made some mistakes, over in Ontario because of regulation 17, the french language was banned in schools. They cut our funding and every french class became and english one. Anglos haven’t been saints as well, should I go back in history and blame anglos for the death of Louis Riel. And this Bain fellow did murder someone as well. Were all the french perfect, nope, are the anglos saints, nope, is the majority of canadians agreeing with official bilingualism, YES!!!
Rosie wrote: when their French friend finds employment right away and they wait for years to be hired…….. ?
Not so Rosie…..All new graduating teachers are doing supply teaching because there are no openings and the schools boards have to follow a list…..whether one is French or english.
Richard THANK-YOU!! FOLKS…..the proof is there for all to see.
WIPE OUT THE FRENCH LANGUAGE AND CULTURE. (CHECK RICHARD’S LINK)
Wondering if they will send your link around the world like they are doing with their’s……LOL
YES!!!!! the g along with the english freedom fighters always denied their true agenda. They called us liars and accused us of spreading propoganda.
The question now: How can their story be trusted or believed? They are on a mission……wipe the french off the face of the earth. We said it all along……THEY WANT TO RULE AND DESTROY THIS ONCE PEACEFUL NATION.
WE DON”T NEED THIS TYPE IN THIS COUNTRY…..send that message around the world……**smile**
@ everyone – The article link above had this hidden on the second page.
David Gonczol, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Monday, May 31, 2010
The unreliability of data concerning bilingual Francophones in Ontario comes on the heels of a controversial decision last year by Madeleine Meilleur MPP for Ottawa/Vanier (no wonder Vanier just declared itself “a French Quarter” , Ontario’s ministerresponsible for francophone affairs, (the wolf guarding the hen house) to change the provincial definition. Previously, a francophone was someone whose mother tongue was French. Now, it can be anyone whose mother tongue is neither English nor French, but who at least understands French (talk about a “twist” on things to suite your own agenda) Statistics Canada says this will artificially increase the number of French speakers in the province, likely by about 50,000, (no doubt) and include some people who may not be able to speak French.
I’m tellin you(s) the cancer is working it’s magic from the inside now. After all, how else do you get the dance hall to play the music YOU WANT TO HEAR for the party?
Simple… Just be sure your brother or uncle is the DJ.
@Cory… I do understand the dilemma with regard to the Montfort and the family connections as well as those warm feelings you have about your former University but, i also KNOW that you fully appreciate the actual concept/intent – for both these places (Ottawa U and the Montfort) — was originally that they would be “bilingual institutions.”
Speaking now more for the benefit of others reading this I would say…
The initial intent of having a bilingual university and a bilingual hospital in and of itself is something most would consider to be, not a big deal. Matter of fact, just like we all went along with — and believed in — the idea that offering services to the French — in French — within the Federal government was a good and fair way to deal with that situation — most Canadians / even most Anglophone Canadians – also believed that having a bilingual hospital and university was fine too.
“Bilingual” being the “supposed operative term.”
We can clearly see that whenever there is an attempt to labeled anything “bilingual” by the French, it then becomes apparent that the English language and the English people end up struggling just to exist. As in the case of both these institutions.
I guess that can be said to be “our weakness.” We, the English, are nice, generous people. I further believe Trudeau, having had these two blood strains running through him (as I do) picked up on (as i have) this “pardon the pun” distinct difference between the Anglo’s — being easy going types — and the Franco’s — being the type to move right in on those “easy going types” like the Anglo’s —
AND …
Given that the French have basically (in more than one example ie: the way they are dealing with the English in province of Quebec) made it VERY CLEAR THAT
———
English CANNOT mix with French in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.
IT MUST BE French ONLY or (according to them) the English will override the French and the French will be assimilated.
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Given that we KNOW THIS, we MUST now simply hold them to their own word.
The challenge now for the Anglo’s is to appreciate this concept to it’s fullest and apply it to ANY future decisions regarding ANY request for bilingualism ANYWHERE — and in ANY capacity —
ie: the decision to allow Vanier to be a designated a French Quarter
When they want money or consent to build a bilingual school or a hospital or ANYTHING bilingual in ANY community – outside the “province” of Quebec, we MUST remember the implications and reality connected with such a claim and simply say, NO.
Simply put, we must stop being the side playing checkers while they continue to play chess.
peter wrote: because Mr. Galganov, . was correct in fighting for the rights of all Canadians to speak and do business in the language of THEIR CHOICE.
Who, pray tell asked or wanted the g to fight? Thinking when Howard ran for elections, *THE MAJORITY* knowing his agenda and what he stood for did not want the g to fight for their rights or anything else for that matter. THE MAJORITIE’S MESSAGE WAS LOUD AND CLEAR!!!!!
@ Cory, Highlander, Edudyorlik, Eric, David, rosie,
Although retired from the educational field, I still have many friends in positions of power within the educational community. Many of these people have the influence regarding recommendations of where H.S. students should attend university.
I will inform all of them, that the university of Ottawa is french first, and bilingual ,means french. many will be very interested to know,
this fact. I live in an extremely large, affluent English community, that values education. Residents here, take education very seriously. I want them , through my contacts here to know, that U of O is a french first institute of higher learning. I will also convey, through various speaking engagements I take part in, to inform parents and students of the policies and realities of what U.Of O is about.
My contacts are very extensive and cross both public and separate school boards. I have also many, many contacts, all across Ontario and I will certainly inform them of the policies and the french first climate that exists, in a “supposedly” bilingual institution.
I will draft a letter to them all, with the express intention, of informing them , that their students and parents should be aware of the type of post secondary school their children will attend, and the influences of that school and its affect on them will be.
Richard tremblay
March 25, 2013 at 5:35 pm
He promotes hatred of the french language, promotes boycott of french owned stores, promotes the elimination of the french language in eastern ontario. ”
I have met Howard on a number of occasions and I asure you I would not agree to promote hatred and yet have never heard any of the sort from Howard ,
Please show us where he promotes the elimination of french in Eastern Ontario.With regards to the bylaws that he is circulating it does not specify any language all it asks is that municipality respect the charter of rights and not enforce a language on private business signs.
So Richard that is an outright lie ,and i beg for you to prove that the recent council bylaws say otherwise.
“This country has made some mistakes, over in Ontario because of regulation 17, the french language was banned in schools”
Regulation 17 existed on the books only for a few years many, many years ago ,yes it was not right and this was promptly corrected .
But regulation 17 is no different then bill 101 it like regulation 17 was unjust ,but it remains on the books after 40+ years .
You complain of regulation 17 but promote bill 101 both are unjust ,but the difference is bill 101 is readily accepted and has run the course near 15x longer then regulation 17.
So to you regulation 17 was not acceptable yet bill 101 is?
You really are ETHNOCENTRIC and Ra**t.
Both remain oppressive but one remains on the books.
“Anglos haven’t been saints as well, should I go back in history and blame anglos for the death of Louis Riel. And this Bain fellow did murder someone as well.”
Once again Bain has a mental illness,but the FLQ and RIN terrorized the population with hundreds of bombs ,abduction ,murders and yet they are considered folk hero’s.
I guess one mans terrorist is another’s hero -truly disgusting as FLQ ,RIN not only terrorized English but French as well -I guess they were collateral damage but they remain human beings!!!
stellabystarlight
March 25, 2013 at 6:00 pm
WIPE OUT THE FRENCH LANGUAGE AND CULTURE. (CHECK RICHARD’S LINK)
Lets see the whole pamphlet as this remains half the story ,there is more to that statement and its not being printed -show the full pamphlet!
“YES!!!!! the g along with the english freedom fighters always denied their true agenda. They called us liars and accused us of spreading propoganda.”
We as groups have Never advocated eliminating the french language as your ilk continues to state,as many of their family’s and friends are French.
“The question now: How can their story be trusted or believed? They are on a mission……wipe the french off the face of the earth. We said it all along……THEY WANT TO RULE AND DESTROY THIS ONCE PEACEFUL NATION.”
Twist the truth there Stella but you have proven to most on here that it is you that cannot be trusted as your many past comments have proven this.
Once again you claim that we are trying “wipe the french off the face of the earth.” These are pretty strong words!! So how is our group going to eliminate 65 million french speaking people?
PROPAGANDA PROPAGANDA PROPAGANDA PROPAGANDA!
Going to rule ?Destroy a country ?
You do realize you agree with and have befriended Pierre the separatist who would only like to destroy the country by having it separated????
“Who, pray tell asked or wanted the g to fight? Thinking when Howard ran for elections, *THE MAJORITY* knowing his agenda and what he stood for did not want the g to fight for their rights or anything else for that matter. THE MAJORITIE’S MESSAGE WAS LOUD AND CLEAR!!!!!”
How many politicians have run for politics and lost only to run again in the next election?
Yes the majority was loud and clear in Quebec and with the PQ’s ,yet they continue to push an agenda most Quebecers do not want!!
I GUESS THE MAJORITY MESSAGE WAS NOT LOUD AND CLEAR!
@ Richard Tremblay ? Stella
The French predominance on signs is not even respected.
I believe that that’s become more of a suggestion than a demand.
Many, if not most, outdoor signs have equal size lettering.
Check the McGill university sign. Just one among many.
And while on the subject of McGill.
Did you know that ”A Global Gonference on Human rights, Democracy and the Fragility of Freedom”
was held there, for three days, starting on March 21, 2013.
More than 2 dozen of the world’s top figures in human rights were speaking there and examining democratic citizenship and the protection of fundamental rights and freedoms.
The event was held at Centre Mont Royal, 2200 Mansfield street.
So tell me Stella, Richard
Why did the world’s most abused people, the Montréal Anglo not speak up, hold a rally or something, at that event?
Do you think that Pauline, had the language police, keep them away?
Confined to their homes, maybe?
Or maybe they shot them all?
No, I saw the anglophone, mayor of Montréal, on the six o’clock news and, he did’nt say anything.
He looked ok… But, maybe it was a look-alike impersonating Mayor Applebaum, hum!
And another thing.
This conference has to have been a fake show.
What fools would ever think of having a Global Conference on Humain Rights, and Democracy and Freedom
and not have the world’s foremost defender of all these values as the main speaker… The one, the only…. Roll of the drums…
!!! HHHowaaaardd GGGGalgannnnoovvv!!!
@ richard,
Again thank you so much for making my point for me.
Anyone that stands up for English rights are degrading francophones, creating conflicts and promoting hate.
Can you please BACK UP ANYTHING YOU SAID WITH ACTUAL PROOF? if not, then shut up.
You are a citizen of Canada for convenience only. Like all parasites you suck Canada dry , while promoting the hatred and venom you spew. Believe me trembly, I would like nothing more than to get you and your ilk out of MY CANADA, not yours, you don’t deserve to carry a Canadian passport, you are an embarrassment to Canadians everywhere.
AHHH, poor you, your french funding was cut boo-hoo. What about the 75% decline in English schools since 1970, in quebec, that were forced to close?
You don’t give a damm about that, but then again, I don’t give a damm about the poor little french funding being cut either.
As for louis riel, he was a traitor, tried in a court of law and found guilty. His sentence, death by hanging, for the MURDER OF THOMAS SCOTT. wHAT SHOULD HE BE GIVEN A BANQUET?
ANOTHER MURDER GOT WHAT HE DESERVED, BUT AGAIN , HE IS HERO WORSHIPPED BY THE SUPPORTERS OF MURDER.
Mr. Bain, was mentally unstable. this is common knowledge.
To the best of my knowledge The FLQ, RIN, and the rest of those cowardly groups has terrorized, and are still terrorizing people to this day. Their attacks, as you well know, are pre-mediated, cold, callous and specifically designed to kill and destroy the anglos Any francophone that DARES tell the truth, like The HONORABLE STAPHANE GRENDON OF HUNTINGTON quebec, has their property vandalized and is threatened with other acts of terrorism
And again Iremind you, that when Canadians, realize that bilingualism MEANS french ONLY, we will see what the majority of Canadians think.
Already through these posts many thousands of English Canadians daily are being educated as to the true meaning of bilingualism
So again, no -sale trembly, the only support you get here is from that ill informed stella, and of course, pierre ( I am afraid to answer anything because I can’t)
Its time for you and quebec to get out of a Canada you truly don’t deserve.
have a good day eh !!!!!!!
Stella you are wrong….about the
hiring of teachers. WRONG!!!! I know too many of them, both English and French…
Pierre, what ” French predominance” on signs is not being respected? I would think in a province where the majority of taxpayers are English speaking, taxpayer funded organizations should have the predominate language first or on the left. Ottawa U does not respect the English predominance, take a drive around King Edward and Laurier and see.
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?id=12314
Rosie……sorry to say you are wrong mon amie. I would love to prove it to you, but due to personal circumstances….I won’t. I am speaking about the French side only, not sure how the english side works.
Believe what you want **smile**
“Rosie……sorry to say you are wrong mon amie. I would love to prove it to you, but due to personal circumstances….I won’t. I am speaking about the French side only, not sure how the english side works.”
” I am speaking about the French side only, not sure how the english side works.”
So once again you know only half the story and based your argument on the biased view of one side ,ILL informed again.
I will quote {MODERATED} “Believe what you want **smile**”
But keep spreading your propaganda in the interest of french only!
Pierre
March 25, 2013 at 10:56 pm
“Why did the world’s most abused people, the Montréal Anglo not speak up, hold a rally or something, at that event?”
Why wasn’t the french groups there claiming Ethnocide as these groups frequently claim?
@ Eric
Again, I’m sorry to say that I don’ understand what you’re saying because, you ‘re not unpleasant to exchange with.
Seems like you believe that McGill U. is in Ontario ???
It’s in Q. and the majority of taspayers are Francophone and predominance simply means that you can have any language, on a sign, as long as it’s accompanied by French and french lettering is supposed to be larger. My point was that it is not always the case.
I don’t believe that Ottawa has a language law.
Most Anglos would believe that Ottawa does not need one as most signs are unilingual English (there are some exceptions, though).
@ pierre
Is that all you can come up ?
One conference ? AS for speaking up, it was done at the UN
A slightly larger forum Duh, DUH DUH
I think marois, purposely keep the quasi-language police away, for fear of embarrassment. Does PASTA come to mind ? PENIS RINGS
BYW: Why you are still running away from answering my posts from Mar 4th. How come?
OH yeah you might say something that is offensive. Well, I am a big boy, and I can certainly handle anything you or anyone else here can throw at me.
Unlike “the fraud squad”, I am prepared with factual information and have the historical background to prove what I say.
So, when are you going to answer my posts?
I believe you CAN’T / WON’T BECAUSE:
1) AS USUAL YOU HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG
2) you simply cannot admit all of what has been asserted by the FRENCH HAS BEEN BOGUS FROM DAY ONE
have a nice day eh
Pierre
March 26, 2013 at 10:48 am
“I don’t believe that Ottawa has a language law.
Most Anglos would believe that Ottawa does not need one as most signs are unilingual English (there are some exceptions, though).”
Pierre all of Ontario has language laws :
-French services language act passed in 1986 with 50 legislators out of 125 and around 2am in french a week later legislation had been written in English in a 96% predominant English province.
FLSA is enacted in 25 regions in Ontario and encompasses 90% of the population for government services.
What remains the fact is that 4% of Ontarian’s are francophone and 90 % of these are in Eastern Ontario.
So why must the services be mandated beyond “where numbers warrant” and clearly they are :courts must be bilingual across the entire province is just one example of many “WHERE NUMBERS DO NOT WARRANT”.
You see Pierre: Francophones in Ontario really are treated much better then Anglophones/Allophones in Quebec yet they only encompass 4% of the population and yet Anglophones /Allophones encompass 17 %++ of Quebec.
Do 2.4 million anglophones and allophones not warrant services ,yet only 0.002% work for the Quebec provincial government!
Talk about disproportionate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
peter
March 26, 2013 at 10:54 am
Perter facts are not their strong point as this would refute their argument.
Remember propaganda is their tool ,They have been proven ever so many times to be wrong -Remember 800 million french in the world….lol…lol…lol,or that the french Language in Canada is dying ..lol..lol..lol when the numbers of stats Canada state otherwise.
They do not agree with Ontarios regulation 17 which was only briefly legislated,but agree to bill 101 which over 40 years remain legislated.
I admit regulation 17 was an oppressive law and thankful that it was only brief and removed ,yet these people agree to bill 101 which is Equally oppressive as well and in particular Still existing over 40+ years later .
To me that’s like saying no I do not believe in Black segregation but yes I believe in Chinese segregation.
Neither are right,for I believe all people are equal .
What is it the English did to the french to merit such hate by the french ?
Why are the french so afraid of the English that they feel they have to go such extreme measures to surpress the English language?
What have the English ever done against the french to garner up the hatred and vile behavior against the English , that the french display?
Why are the french so insecure in their own language?
Why do the french encourage “squealing” or ( RATTING OUT ) of fellow quebeckers ( The English), just “because they are English”?
How would putting up a sign endanger any language?
How would trying to FORCE people through LEGISLATION OF LANGUAGE LAWS, accomplish preserving a language?
Why is it, that post bill 101 the french numbers are still in decline?
Why are thousands of francophones leaving quebec, albeit very, very quietly, to have their children educated in ENGLISH ?
Why has all of the anti- English laws that are currently in place as well as the french policies, that restrict English, Failing miserably ?
Why does the government of quebec, feel that more restrictive laws will protect the french language, when it is clear that the current laws are a failure , and that doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results is the very definition of INSANITY?
WHY ?? WHY ???? WHY ??? WHY???
Pierre, I was reading McGill and thinking Ottawa U. Maybe we could trade so both would then have proper predominance.
The city of Ottawa and the province both have multi page language laws, and I see your point of English first at McGill, but it is much more in your face around Ottawa. There are 12 French language school boards, and some of them have been busy getting huge flag poles and hoist huge Franco Ontario flags. Because they are funded by all taxpayers, they should have Canada or at least provincial flags at the top. Of course, the English do not complain.
Sorry if that is an “unpleasant exchange”. LOL
Well Stella, the English School Boards hires teachers who speak French the minute they graduate. However I will admit, I do not know what happens in the Francophone School Board. Could be they could never bring themselves to teach French to English kids. Gawd, that would be just horrible, now wouldn’t it. (You must remember, the French poster who taught French to English kids in Nova Scotia and what he had to say about that.) So maybe fill me in on that one. Would they teach Core French? You see Stella maybe I wasn’t clear, when I said French teachers are hired, what I should have said was teachers who speak both French and English. I have heard so many stories. It seems to me I would rather have the math expert teach math to my English child as opposed to the so-so math teacher who happens to speak French. You see Stella the latter is the one that would be hired. Even teachers who want to teach English in the English School Boards, albeit immersion, are asked first, do they speak French? Now remember the immersion school was created so that an English student could learn French so why would any teacher who just wants to teach English have to know French. Depending on the area in Canada where you live, one’s level of French may not be good enough to teach in the Ottawa area schools let’s say but is good enough to teach in a western province school. This Stella is nuts!
@ pierre,
I graduated from McGill university. Lets see their history:
Founded by a Scot Osler. there boards and contributors have i
included :
Spier, Dunlap, Molson, and Dr. Wilder Penfield. The latter is world famous. I would never expect you or the “fraud squad” to know this or why ? I know you will look it up on wikapedia, and you think you actually know something , right?
The entire history of McGill has its ROOTS in English , just as U of M has its roots in french.. So why should they have any sign in french, it is basically an English university, just as U.OF M is a french university, and need no English sign. Logic right ?
As I have previously posted, I have forwarded a letter, to the various people I know both personally and professionally, to INFORM them of Ottawa U’S policy regarding their anti-English attitudes towards the English students that attend that francophone institution of higher learning.
I have even forward them the various pieces of literature that back up my assertions. the word is slowly, but surly getting out, as to what “bilingualism” means in this country.
Now students and parents, can make “an informed choice” when applying to university. rather than finding out that Ottawa U is french first, and then maybe English higher learning school.
Perhaps, when people realize, that there are many more and far better places to educate their children, then Ottawa U and others, will get the message. This is similar to me having myself and my friends boycott cassleview golf course to the tune of $25,000 + in lost revenue, both for 6 memberships and three tournaments , this sum includes food and beverages, nick knacks and the like for a 7-8 month period. We’ll see how the Ottawa U info pans out, with perspective students coming from outside the Ottawa region.
one step at a time, one business at a time.
Howard, you don’t know your history. Regulation 17, restricted and eliminated every form of french education in our province. Limited the french language to 1hr a day. If your anglophone in Québec today, you can have free access to anglo schools, NO PROBLEM.
Peter, You continue to be so biased and blind one sided in your arguments its exhausting trying to reason with you. A good, decent person would say bain did a terrible thing and he doesn’t represent the LFA views. WHat do you do ? Ah, bain had a mental illness. Louis Riel is no murderer. He’s a national hero that defended his people. You obviously don’t know your history and the background of ¨le gouvernement provisoire de Louis Riel¨and that thomas scott had a plot to kill louis riel. Maybe back in your day, when they taught history, you were absent.
Thank god my canada is inclusive and embraces every cultural difference. Thank god my canada is tolerant and promotes diversity. Thank god for Canada that has freedom of expression even when some canadians think they are right and history proves the wrong. Merci le Canada de continuer d’appuyer majoritairement le bilinguisme. Oh, and I almost forgot, thank god for CFN because without knowing it they help the french cause. Because with all the racist, the discriminatory and the intolerant comment printed, this LFA crap will fade and go away.
@ Eric
It’s not an unpleasant exchange and I’m not LOL
You’re probably the smartest one of the clan but, still, I have to say it.
It’s sad how you guys reason. I think you(s) should keep your hands in your pockets and, content yourselves just reading.
In this last post 2:52 pm. You just say anything that pops into your head… If you don’t know what to answer, don’t answer…
It’s the smart thing to do.
@ All,
WOW
Wikapedia must must be zooming along, with the likes of pierre, and trembly This is THEIR ONLY SOURCE of information.
OH I almost forgot, the french press ever so fair in its postings, re-assuring the french that all is well, we’ll get those Anglais one way or another. You can rest the french press are only too happy to c@ap on anything English, regardless of a little thing like the “truth” getting in the way.
Can you believe trembly, showing us a pamphlet, claiming it is written by Mr. Galganov, and then having the gaul to only SHOW A PARTIAL PICTURE OF IT, WITHOUT THE AUTHOR’S NAME ON IT
I’d like to read that pamphlet , there may be very pertinent facts in it, that I would like to maybe take to heart. tremblt, where can I get a copy? I’d very much like to order one, or at least read it, it sounds very interesting, no ???
This is the same type of literature that quebec produces to malign the English. What is the expression, “What good for the goose, is good for the gander” Or “tit for tat”
Personally I never “take anything” without giving someone a “receipt ” back.
have a good day eh???
A bit of “ironic but cute” humor for everyone.
Love the line.
“La ville de Montréal tiens plus debout”
sorta translates to ( said sorta so relax eh)
“the city of Montreal can’t keep itself held together anymore.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KANq3AUKCv4&hd=1