CFN – Is it time to boycott all things Quebec? A boycott is a severe thing; but with Bill 14 looming and the strange occurrences since the last election there that never seem to be resolved could it be best if people give La Belle Province a wide berth for awhile?
Don’t get me wrong; as a former Montrealer there are many things I still love about the once great city.
But I could go a summer without Schwartz’s and steamies if it makes a statement.
Frankly I visit “back home” less and less. It’s not just the crazed roads and constant construction. It’s not just the all too more frequent customer service issues if I dare speak “Anglais”.
It’s this darn Bill 14. It’s the fact that things became so bad in Quebec that the people of Quebec decided to grant Ms Marois a government.
In Canada we still have free choice; and frankly my choice is leaning towards making my little statement. My one little token of boycotting Quebec until after Labour Day. I think I can do it.
Yes, I’ll still visit my family; but I won’t be dining or spending any money there. Do I expect my little boycott to change anything? Not really; but imagine if millions of people did?
Politicians rely on people never doing anything no matter how badly they behave. They’re used to manipulating small groups of people to grab power. When I wrote during the student tuition protests that it simply was PQ agitation I think the election results showed how right myself and many others of the same belief were.
Quebec made its choice. In some ways I think it was a good one because people can focus on the brutally ugly culture of linguistic facism that exists. Francophones in Quebec will have to realize that the only people that can save French in Quebec are Francophones. Anglophones, and Allophones are not to blame and not the issue. It’s time to stop punishing the English language and culture hoping that Quebec will become some Francophone Mecca.
Until Quebec changes its ways the results will essentially be the same.
Now the big question is why the Federal government remains so silent on what’s happening to Canadians living in Quebec that don’t subscribe to the provincially mandated madness, and why they are abdicating those citizens rights…
Jamie Gilcig – Editor – CFN
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@ trembly,
RIEL ORDERED THE MURDER OF A CANADIAN
What is it with you, black is white, white is black.
Why is it so hard for you UNDERSTAND.
Again, deny, deny, deny, and put your heads in the sand because THE FACTS ARE NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
No wonder the french feel insecure as a group, they duck the truth and play the blame game. MAC Donald HAD NO CHOICE, HE WASN’T ON TH EJURY.
HE DIDN’T ORDER THE FIRING squad TO KILL SCOTT
What it is with you and the jury ?
They heard the evidence, and found him guilty and hung him
They found him guilty, but the jury was biased chosen by people that supported John A. I guess his the lack of logic and cirrhosis clouded his judgement. I’m saying his trial was a farce. We haven’t been that lucky with conservative PM in Canada One couldn’t stand on his own to feet because of an alcohol problem and todays PM cant balance a checkbook. Why don’t you look at the real problem today, its not language the problem because bilingualism is costs barely 1 % of the federal budget. And when is bilingualism forced ? IT ISNT. You don’t get that I, as a canadian have as much rights as you to be served by my government in my own language. One of the founding languages, one of the official languages of this great bilingual country. One language that greats like Laurier, Riel and trudeau fought for…
@ trembly,
So, why aren’t English Canadians given the same rights in quebec, regarding bilingualism ?
why is quebec unilngual french ?
Why, are there language restrictions, on businesses in quebec?
Why are their educational restrictions in quebec ?
Why is business only french in quebec?
Why are anglos being treated as second class citizens in quebec ?
Why does the government of quebec, openly encourage french citizens to squeal on honest hard working anglophoes for any breech of a racist and anti- English, anti- democratic law ?
So, its ok for quebec to be unilingual french, but it is not ok for the rest of the country to be unilngual English ?
Nice try trembly, but again no sale. sell your crap to someone who was born yesterday, not some one with brain and and credible knowledge of this nation.
BTW: Alcoholism is a disease. So when you make fun and laugh at some one with this affliction, it goes to who you are.
Also, were you privy to the choosing of Riel’s jury ?
Were you there ?
Where, please “quote the source”, be it primary or secondary as to where you got this information concerning Riel’s jury.
As for being served in one’s own language, given that the french only make up 28% of Canada, and that a full 90% of that figure comes from quebec, then translators can serve you in your language just as well, and cost a hell of a lot less.
The current P.M has had the best monetary policy of the last
seven years since he took power. the Canadian deficit under the liberals were heading into record numbers. I guess chretian was spending good Canadian tax dollars on THE SPONSORSHIP SCANDAL
. And lastly, if you don’t like the way Canadians treat the french, then get out, form your own quebec nation, without any welfare assistance from Canada, and just leave if you have it so bad.
I will again take up residence in quebec, just so I can vote “oui” in the next referendum .
Please don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Stella:
“Rosie, core french? This is not a term used in the french sector. The french that is taught is proper french, oral and written. They just don’t scrape the surface….what would be the purpose.”
Stella my point exactly. What is the purpose?
Students in Ontario’s publicly funded English-language schools are required to: study French as a Second Language from Grades 4 to 8, and earn at least one credit in FSL in secondary school to obtain the Ontario Secondary School Diploma. What is the purpose? Why all the French teaching jobs? Why the waste of a student’s classroom time; time they will never get back. Time that would be better spent in the school yard kicking around a soccer ball then to be stuck in a classroom scraping the surface.
Do you feel the same way about immersion programs? Would you francophone teachers teach immersion?
Eric your comment to Stellabystarlight, “when the employer is a city, provincial or federal government, it is NOT THEIR choice alone on who to hire. Because someone adds bilingual to a job, does not mean it is justified” that comment is so worth re-posting.
I posted the job ad the Cornwall Community Hospital advertised the local paper. An accounting job, part-time, temporary at that and I asked why would this need to be bilingual and again her comment “If the employer wants to hire a bilingual person then that’s their choice”.
@ Eric
I must admit that I’m mot to familliar with the details of the bilinguakism efforts, in Ontario.
I don’t know what you mean by : but still saying to high school students that 1 out of 30 credits is enough. The lack of fairness is obvious ?????
I can tell you, in around about way, that there is more investment in bilingualism in Ontario because, there had been a lack of government support for the Francophone of that province, in the first 3/4 of the 20th century and they were being assimilated.
The governments are now having to play, the catch up game.
And, as you can see, it is expensive… But not that much, if the results prove to be positive.
We can talk about that later.
I too, have questions about so much of that money going to pay the salaries in minority group organisations.
I wonder what good they do, in reality?
Would the money not be better spent in the school system?
They want to spend a bunch of that money, in Québec, to teach French, to a bunch of unilingual Anglophone seniors?
What good will that do?
I believe it would be better to invest more in the youth…
But what do I know?
Lots of questions…
But, I’m tired.
Talk to you later.
@ trembly,
I missed your earlier post, when you said I was trying to sell you the moon.
So I’ll give you my bio, weather you believe it or not, its up to you, but what I don’t do and never, did was lie.
I was born in Montreal, in poverty. I rose to be able to attend McGill and eventually got a master’s degree in education with a major in History. I worked in that field from 1970 thru 1989, when I left quebec.
During my time in education in quebec, I became certified in travel ( IATA) and took evening courses at Concordia U. I then bought a part ownership in a travel agency, which I later sold ( 1977)
I also was fortunate enough to became , at first as a sideline, and later as a consultant for the stock market. I was trained by my very best friend in life Francois Montiminy, sadly deceased.
In the 1980’s when it became clear to all in the English community that we were no longer welcome in our home province, although still in education, I decided to buy three taxis and have them as an investment opportunity. These were sold at a profit in 1989, the year I moved to Ontario. I hired over a seven year period nine francophones, and three anglophones. I hired on the basis of qualification.
When I moved here, I again was prominent in the education field, returning to York university to pursue a career in the co-op field in education. I also, spent more time in the stock market on a consultative basis. I am still very, very active in this field, as I have retired from education in 2003.
I also have relatives in the NHL and they are in New York city.
So there you have it trembly, no selling the moon to you, just the plain truth.
Richard tremblay
March 28, 2013 at 6:42 pm
“Why don’t you look at the real problem today, its not language the problem because bilingualism is costs barely 1 % of the federal budget. And when is bilingualism forced ? IT ISNT”
Now Richard you are capable of doing math right?
Now if we protected all cultures All 200 of them like we do french that would be 1%x200- well beyond our means .
Yes it is forced ,the original intention of the OLA was to provide french services “where number warrant”-then it became the right to be managed in ones language .
With over 65% bilingual hire in government ,they are very limited to be hired in their own government that 82%..
When limitations are set by language only 17% of the population is bilingual and can work for their own government -language is the determining factor.
Ask Stella she even admits that language is as important in fact more important then education!
Why where numbers do not warrant id french bilingual being pushed in provinces such as B.C with just at 1% to Newfoundland 0.4% and Ontario being the highest % outside of Que and NB is 4%.
“Where numbers warrant” is ambiguous what does 0.4% warrant spending hordes of money in Newfoundland on bilingualism,and limiting their chances of Gov employment because of language alone?
Yet Quebec bilingualism is a bad word for this Quebec government!
So I guess its one thing being pushed as there is as much English in Quebec as their is French in the rest of Canada
-Its french ,with Ont spending 1200% per capita then Quebec on bilingualism.
@ trembly,
While you bask in the fact that John A. MacDonald had a drinking problem, I notice you failed to mention that rene levesque killed a man while drunk. He ran over him on cote neiges blvd. in MOntreal. As pierre says, look it up.
At least Sir John A. , didn’t kill any one trembly. other than the ones like Riel, that deserved it.
Rosie wrote: An accounting job, part-time, temporary at that and I asked why would this need to be bilingual and again her comment “If the employer wants to hire a bilingual person then that’s their choice”.
Absolutely, it is their choice. Perhaps their clients are mostly french which can create a communication problem.
Besides, it is the employer’s choice who they hire.
Thank you for agreeing with me on John A being a drunk and that he killed a great canadian. Who cares about rené lévesque ? The one thing I didn’t agree about his political positions was that Québec needed to separate.
So, why aren’t English Canadians given the same rights in quebec, regarding bilingualism ? Bilingualism to you means every one else bilingual but you. And that, if french guy can speak english, why should I learn french ?
why is quebec unilngual french ?
– so is alberta ? On paper Québec might be unilingual, but if you spent more then 1 hour in Québec you know that the province is more bilingual then all the other provinces put together. Ever try to get service in French in Alberta ?
Why, are there language restrictions, on businesses in quebec? Bill 86 guarantees signs in french and english just as long as french is predominant. Ever been to Montreal peter ? You hear and read more french there then english.
Why are their educational restrictions in quebec ?
If your french, you go to a french school if your english, you go to an english school ? Where is the problem.
Why is business only french in quebec?
– again, ever been to montreal, kirkland, pointe-claire… (et j’En passe)
Why are anglos being treated as second class citizens in quebec ?
– ok, second class citizens, they have their own universities, colleges, government service on request. What you want is for french people to bow to your ¨hautain¨patronizing unilingual self.
Why does the government of quebec, openly encourage french citizens to squeal on honest hard working anglophoes for any breech of a racist and anti- English, anti- democratic law ?
– the law is not racist, it protects the french language and granted it is not doing a very good job. It should be strengthened not abolished.
The current P.M has had the best monetary policy of the last
seven years since he took power. the Canadian deficit under the liberals were heading into record numbers. I guess chretian was spending good Canadian tax dollars on THE SPONSORSHIP SCANDAL
– Ok, and all out lie. The current PM added 150 billion to our debt plus he’s in a deficit. The liberals had a surplus and were paying down the debt.
– The sponsorship scandal wasted millions of dollars. Conservatives, seperatists and liberals took advantage of that money. 250 million to save our country. Then again compare that to 50 billion of the waste on our canadian action plan, 9 billion dollars in planes we might not get and 150 billion added on our debt, and on top of everything else we still have a 20 billion dollar deficit.
stellabystarlight March 29, 2013 at 5:56 pm
You stated yourself that “language is as important then merit “,but if you exclude the applicant based on language requirements you are as well excluding Merit!
For if merit were truly equal to language the applicant would not be excluded on language alone!
In a way she’s right howard, without language there is no communication, and with no communication how can you provide the service. IF you’re going to hire interpreters, or hand out ipads with google translation…that would be illogical, but then again could be worst, aren’t you the one that promoted the boycott of french owned stores…aren’t you the one that promoted the elimination of the french language in eastern ontario. YOur promoting now the exact opposite of what you wanted in Québec.
Richard tremblay
March 29, 2013 at 6:15 pm
“Thank you for agreeing with me on John A being a drunk and that he killed a great canadian.”
‘LIE’-LIE,LIE
HE DID NOT STATE HE KILLED A GREAT CANADIAN
peter
March 29, 2013 at 1:13 pm
“While you bask in the fact that John A. MacDonald had a drinking why is
“quebec unilngual french ?
– so is alberta ? On paper Québec might be unilingual, but if you spent more then 1 hour in Québec you know that the province is more bilingual then all the other provinces put together. Ever try to get service in French in Alberta ?problem, ”
ALBERTA -1.8% FRENCH
QUEBEC 17% -ENGLISH
SO GOING ANYWHERE WHERE THEIR ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF FRENCH PEOPLE YOU ACTUALLY EXPECT TO GET SERVED IN FRENCH?
BULLPASTA!
“- the law is not racist, it protects the french language and granted it is not doing a very good job. It should be strengthened not abolished.”
EQUALLY REGULATION 17 IS JUST AS WRONG AS BILL 101 YET YOU DISAGREE WITH REGULATION 17 BUT ENCOURAGE THE STRENGTHENING OF BILL 101?
YOU HAVE A WARPED SENSE OF RIGHTS AND ENTITLEMENT !
YOU SEE CANADIANS THIS IS THE TYPE OF PERSON REPRESENTS THE AVERAGE QUEBECER,SAD REALLY THIS INFLATED ENTITLEMENT AND EGO .
@peter
There was an unconformed suggestion that René Lévesque had been drunk when he ran over a street person, sleeping in the street (drunk, maybe, I don’t know).
But again, you fabulate when you say that Lévesque was drunk.
He was only charged for driving without his glasses.
There is absolutly no evidence to suppport your accusation of drunk driving.
Very ugly of you, as usual.
You’re not going to earn the respect of many people that way.
You need to work on your morals.
@ trembly,
No one ever contested that Sir John A. Drank. It is also not relevant to anything he did as P.M. If so, please provide proof to this effect. In levesque’s case what he did was a criminal offense. vehicular homiciide, what MacDonald did was follow the justice system. A big, big difference here.
I believe he ( levesque) was correct in that quebec should separate. Just look at the posts here, there is no commonality among the fraud squad and us, never, will be.
Bilingualism, to me means, what the dictionary says it means, the knowledge and ability to converse, read and write in another language. The issue of FORCED bilingualism, is not about me, it is a law to isolate the English , and to keep them as second class citizens. There are tens of thousands of Anglos, that fit the definition of bilingualism, however, they are restricted form putting up ENGLISH signs in quebec, therefore quebec, is NOT A BILINGUAL province BY law. Why then should Canad be? WE ARE THE MAJORITY HERE.
Like I said before trembly, I have family in quebec, it is my home province, as I stated earlier, I forgot more about quebec, than you can even hope to remember. We are NOT TALKING ABOUT ALBERTA. We are talking about quebec. BYW: in Alberta you can put up french or English signs or both languages or any other language. They HAVE FREE CHOICE NOT so in quebec. It is isolated, and xenaphobic, the way you like it.
Why should any language be predominant. That is an insult.
IN Canada, we allow signs in ALL LANGUAGES with NO RESTRICTION on letter size. That’s called EQUALITY In quebec, it is discrimination.
You know NOTHING about education in quebec, to make a stupid statement like you did. Read bill 101. The french CANNOT BY LAW SEND THEIR CHILDREN to an ENGLISH SCHOOL,THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. This is why thousands of them ( francophones ) are very quietly leaving quebec, because of bill 101 , you know, the law to “protect them” , FORCES them to places in Canada, where they can have a CHOICE in what language their children are educated in.
AS for the English students, I have outlined the restrictions for you previously. Here we go again. The English students in quebec, can only be admitted to an English “if” both of their parents were educated in English, in quebec. Therefore they are RESTRICTED. Is there any part of this you are having trouble understanding ?
Bill 101 states that the “officiial language of business in quebec is FRENCH. WHY ?
God knows they buy everything English, from videos to CD’S to watching their cable TV, IN ENGLISH. What is it with that trembly ? No french cable from ST Louis de HA Ha or three rivers ? Why are most ( francophones ) subjected to Plattsburg N.Y ( English ) and Burlington Vt. ( English ) or Poland Spring Me. ( again English ) Why not the quebec cities I mentioned above.
The English language in quebec, is given NO RESPECT and by extension neither are the Anglophones. They cannot display business signs of their choice. They are restricted in education. they are at the mercy of a government that encourages the french to squeal or RAT OUT English citizens if they try to make an honest living by using ONE OF CANADA’S OFFICIAL LANGUAGE in business. Anyone, french or English, that even SPEAKS UP FOR ANGLO rights is threatened with violence, or becomes the victim of violence. Ever hear of Staphane Gendron ??
How come you and the fraud squad never mentioned him in your rants? Are you afraid he just might be RIGHT ?
Yes trembly, second class citizens, but again nice try in trying to put a spin on racist policies and laws.
What is the french language being protected from ?
Where is the threat to their language? PASTA, PENIS RINGS ?
You talk about protection of the french language as if some threat exists, BEFORE Bill 101, BEFORE THE LANGUAGES LAWS AND POLICIES< the french not only survived, but they FLOURISHED
So again, tell where the need to protect french is rooted in? Why again, is it necessary?
trembly, you keep stating that people in quebec need this protection, but in reality, this is a myth. This is not about protection, it is about POWER and CONTROL.
It is also about , the french in quebec, that are , by their own fault, INSECURE IN THEIR LANGUAGE AND CULTURE. The sad thing is, they don't have to be. Their own french premiers, put quebec in an untenable position and the English got the blame.
So trembly, it is evident, I am sure , even to you, that we should go our "separate ways" . I totally agree with marois, levesque and the rest, that quebec would be better off without Canada. You have stated you unhappiness with Canadians, Albertans, and people like me, there are 28 million of us trembly, that feel the same as I do, and some are far more pronounced in their views and possible actions.
To me, I do not want any province in the Dominion of Canada, that has laws on the books like bill 101 and possibly bill 14. They are racist, anti- English and anti- democratic. If you feel these laws should be strengthened, then fine, strengthen them, but do it without Canada. We want no part of these nazi like laws or policies. My Canada believes in freedom of CHOICE FOR ALL< not smaller letter sizes to demean and disrespect the majority in Canada
Like I said, if you don't like Canadians like myself, simple, get lost.
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@ trembly
Correct, however, when the liberals were in power, they did not have to deal with 2008-2009 , the collapse of the world markets. Careful here trembly, this is my wheelhouse.
Despite this collapse, Harper, and Flaratey managed to keep Canada’s banks “the best in the world” by a fiscal policy of prudence and not straying from the economic council of Canada’s recommendations, initially formed by the Conservatives.
As for Chretian, he was in power during the boom times, even stella and pierre could run a surplus. Its easy when the world economy is doing well. the challenge is when you experience 2008-2009 and come out the best of the G8 and G 20, as the premier country because of Conservative policies. Perhaps, if we got rid of the cost of bilingualism, a failed policy , we would do even better.
Keep writing this stuff Peter, I’m loving it.
Richard “Ever try to get service in French in Alberta ?” Now why would you think that you should be served in French everywhere you go in Alberta? This is quite bizarre Richard. I read a report once where the teachers in Alberta who teach French to the English Albertans are actually adult learners of French themselves…So just how could all Albertans be bilingual today? I drove though Quebec many times and had to stop for directions Richard and guess what Richard, no help in English was there for me but you know what else Richard, I didn’t have a problem with that fact; I found my way…That’s where we differ as Canadians.
Rosie March 30, 2013 at 9:24 am
Well said Rosie. And i agree with you about Pete’s stuff too.
Rosie quoting Richard wrote, “Richard “Ever try to get service in French in Alberta ?” Now why would you think that you should be served in French everywhere you go in Alberta? This is quite bizarre Richard.”
This is the thing Rosie. They are trying to compare the majority ALL OF CANADA to the minority French and THIS IS NOT COMPARABLE.
Canada being “the country” and the Anglo’s being 80 percent majority of the country should expect that they can go ANYWHERE in the country of Canada and be served in the common language of the country. PERIOD.
That is just common sense. For the French minority of maybe 17% (of which 90% of them CAN speak and understand English) should be expected to know — ENGLISH — the common language of their country they live in.
THIS IS WHY i constantly say, we should NOT get into comparing this situation or any element of this situation on a one to one basis with the French.
IT IS SIMPLY NOT comparable and trying to compare it does a disservice to the majority Anglophones and to the fact that Canada is a country and Quebec is nothing but a province.
@ pierre,
This is rich coming from you. Please refer to the title “Edgar Trottier: memories. July 22, 2009.
As usual, you do not know what you are talking about.
Levesque, was seen by many witnesses drinking and partying at Yves Michaud;s home for at least six hours prior to the killing.
Yves Michaud was a radical separatist that assisted Camille Laurin draft bill 101.
Jean -Denis lamoureux, a journalist, covered this story, very “briefly”
Lamoureux, was the killer of Walter Leja, a mailman ,who when he opened the mailbox, a bomb PLANTED by Lamoureux ,exploded and maimed him for life. He died, after pain and suffering , some 29 years later. Levesque actually hired him, a killer, for his press releases. Classy eh, hiring a killer.
So, lets see, pierre. Levesque, drinking and partying all night
. A police officer, JUST HAPPENED “NOT” TO HAVE A BREATHALYZER in his car. Please. pierre, gimmie a break.
Levesque, surrounded by radicals, and terrorists, in the form of Michaud and Lamoureux, and gets away with killing a guy.
Don’t tell me there was any fabrication of this story. No evidence, to support my story, the whole damm world saw the guy drinking and partying for hours before the accident.
Get respect, pierre you have no clue what respect is, and ugly, What’s ugly here, is again your DENIAL of facts and truth.
As for morals, the entire french onslaught on the English, bill 101, anti-English policies and the xenaphobia, exhibited by the quebec government and your ilk, smacks of an immorality beyond belief.
These are the kinds of incidents and activities, that we in Canada, abhor. This is why we want NO PART OF YOU AND YOUR KIND
Just vote to separate and leave, then you can go through life on that pink cloud of french, french, french, but please do it WITHOUT US.
@Jamie…. The people of QC did not make it’s choice the government did… and no why would I boycott a place I am very attached to.. in fact I spend more money down there at times than I do here… hairdresser, best little boulangerie this side of Heaven (I have not been there yet but hope to 🙂 with the old fashioned oven in the wall… the bread there is awesome as are all it’s products..Best maple syrup I have ever had (Stephen Blair Franklin QC ) 1st prize winners at Royal winter Fair over and over, Viau’s butcher shop (Covey Hill) best meat anywhere.. bacon, ham etc.. There is Fairview and other major shopping what do we have here … Ottawa is pretty good but still Qc has many many great things about it.. The French are very hard working folks always have been… Why all the posts above about killings, language issues… why not just a simple answer yes or not… why do we go over and over the same stuff and killings etc…
You guys tell me there is no hatred there is here much hatred… You folks got to remember when you talk about boycotting QC you are talking about boycotting English folks too we still have many English areas in QC Eastern Townships is one, Hudson etc.. where Mr Galganov came from ..
I will always be a QC’r at heart.. sorry folks.. I may be physically here but my heart is in QC and with the new 30 wow we just fly down there now 🙂
Peter you are more than rude and you get away with it… why?
Love that butcher on Covey Hill Jane.
@ rosie,
Thank you for your kind sentiments.
It is really not that difficult to refute anything “the fraud squad” says. Their comments, statements, and the like are rooted in supposition, rants and fabrications. They rarely, if ever, research or go to primary and or secondary sources to fact check anything they say. They go to the net or Wikapedia, big deal.
What people in Canada, should realize, is that the current government of quebec, along with the newer radical groups, like “imperitif francais”, “quebec solidaire”, and the like are radical and very prone to violence. They are considered MODERATE by the “fraud squad”. ThInk about that one, Rosie.
I believe, in my gut that the only sensible course for Canada to follow is to get quebec OUT of Canada. This will never, happen in my lifetime, but in the future, what we see today as obvious, will also become obvious to the future governments of the day.
Once quebec, is gone, then bilingualism goes with it, and all of the francophones OUTSIDE quebec, will really begin to worry.
Their Canadian protection, in the form of bilingualism will be gone. Then I would like to see how PROTECTIVE the quebec government will be of their plight.
This is why trembly, stella and pierre, fight like hell to keep bilingualism in Canada. Without it, they are lost.
This is why they are pushing for FORCED BILINGUALISM. It gives them LEVERAGE, in a bilingual Canada but this will NOT LAST forever, and they know it. I HATE to agree with a Bain, but in a sense he was correct in saying the English are “waking up” and its about time.
FYI: Quebec solidaire, was the party that just tabled a motion in the quebec assembly to have paul rose declared a HERO. rose recently died of a stroke, YEAH I lived through the October crisis, of 1970, and it was purely criminal. All of them should have been hanged in a public square. These are the people that are behind the government in quebec today, and don’t be fooled, the FLQ and RIN are still alive and well today.
Why would Canadians want any part of this quebec, it is truly foreign to us as Canadians, please I pray they go and go quickly.
@ Jane -Doe- Doe
You obviously miss the points that are being conveyed here. First off, I am a quebecker. If you have read any of my posting at all you know that. I also outlined my bio( Post march 28 10:50 p.m. ) to trembly, who for some reason thinks what I have done in life is questionable.
I will respond to your post one point at a time. Yes there are great, great places to shop and browse in quebec, I told Jamie of the very best smoked meat emporium in Montreal, the Main deli,
across the street from schwartz’s.
However, quebec is literally run by radicals. Although this is NEVER evident in the day to day politics of the P.Q, it is. Look at what quebec has done. . Laws like bill 101, discriminatory and extremely racist a well as anti- English and xenaphobic. A government the encourages their french citizens to spy on the English , RAT THEM OUT if they display English signage in business. English is a Founding language of Canada, and to the best of my knowledge quebec, is in Canada, albeit in name only.
Look at recent events, a para-medic, refusing to speak English to the parent of an extremely sick child. The LANGUAGE POLICE going to a restaurant and saying the word PASTA is threatening to the french language. Bill 101, the most discriminatory law ever passed by any western jurisdiction. This law has been CONDEMNED by the UNITED NATIONS. I can go on and on and on.. But the fact remains that their is NOTHING CANADIAN about quebec. When a province can isolate, demean, and garner total disrespect for the 1 million + anglophones there, then that is where I draw the line.
Their entire history over the last 53 years has been rooted in anti-English legislation and violence. Sorry, Jane doe-doe, this is not my Canada, it may be yours, and although I love the food, the city and the like, I deplore the politics and I will never, support any government that is anti- Freedom.
If you choose to so, fine, your have the free choice to do it, and I respect that,. But to me, and many, many others have chosen that the honorable way to deal with quebec, is NOT TO DEAL WITH THEM AT ALL
I hope I clarified my position, and I hope you don’t take anything I said personally, it is just the plain and simple truth, rooted IN FACT.
As for being rude , I respond in kind, I don ‘t believe in coddling or fudging issues. I try to tell like it is, and not “SUGARCOAT” EVERYTHING IN THE NAME OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. WITH ME, IT IS Never PERSONAL
@ Rosie
Ah Rosie I try to be nice to you because, I sometimes think that there is hope for you but it does’nt last. You keep proving me wrong.
Loving the lies that peter writes will not make you look good in the eyes of level headed Canadians.
Just take a look at the half truths and total lies in his two last posts.
1) Any dicissions taken by an alcoolic Prime Minister should be questioned but not to peter. If he thinks it can help prove his point.
2) An Other lie. Contrarily to what he (peter) says, Levesque did not commit a criminal offence because, running over and killing someone who is sleeping, on the road, is not criminal. He, Levesque, was only fined for driving without his glasses.
Check it out.
3) There is no comminality between us, ”the fair-minded guys” and the ”nightmare clan” but there is also no comminality between you(s) and the politicians, the Courts and the majority of Canadians. So that was an half-truth.
4)Another lie. There are not tens of thousands of bilingual anglo Canadians. There are about 2,000,000 of them. Ten million Canadians can speak French and there are eight million Francophones… Can you count? As to bilingualism being forced thats another half-truth. It is true that all public and maybe all private school in Canada, including Québec, have second official language course in their curriculum so French is not forced on Anglos any more than it is on Francos. We would not the have the country we have if we did not have bilingualism. Behond that, no one is forced to learn the other official language. There are plenty of jobs for unilingual people in Canada and in Québec.
5) Québec is officially French but that does not change the fact that it is the most bilingual province, in Canada. Anglos can put up a sign in English, as long as the French is there too in order that the bussiness person respects the fact that the majority of his customers are, in all probability, Francophone. If, peter was half as knowledgeable as he thinks he is, he would not have to ask why Canada has to be bilingual while Québec does’nt.
I have time to waste so I’ll tell you(s) again.
It’s because Canada is a federation that includes one Francophone province, one bilingual province and eight Anglophone province… That’s why.
Only bigots will believe that is not enough of a reason.
6) An other lie. English is predominant, in Canada. That is why the French, who have been here since before the creation of this Canadian federation need laws to protect our linguistic rights.
7) Another lie. Québécois do not leave québec to educate their children in English any more, than Anglos come to Québec ,to educate their children in French. Anglophone and speakers of many other languages, come to Québec to learn French and English too… That’s why our universities are full capacity.
Canadians leave Canada more that ten times more than americans imigrate here… Language has nothing to do with it.
8) Another lie. Anglos are not restricted in education they have the best schools, colledges and universities in the province and they get more of, per capita, health monies, than the Francophone system does.
9) An other lie. The truth is that an Anglo student can be admitted into the English school system if one of his parents has studied in English in Canada (and maybe, in the world, I’m not sure) and so can all his brothers and sisters… Is there anything in this that you don’t understand? boneheads.
10) Another lie. Anglos do make an honest living in Québec and they do use both languages. They serve Anglos in English and French to serve Francophones and that’s all for the best in ”la Belle Province”.
11) Another lie The french did’nt flourish before law 101 or the quiet revolution. And who says that’s a lie? Well, everybody including, guess who, yes, peter. he goes so deep in his nightmare, that he forgets parts of it. Did he not blame Duplessis for their (our) not flourishing? That means that, whatever the reason we did not flourish back then, eh peter?
12) another lie. There are not 28 million Canadians who feel like the ”nightmare clan” does. According to Stats. Can. 72% of Canadians support bilingualism. And as I’ve stated before, if not for selfish anglophone medias that count would probably be much higher. Unfortunately, these media feed, on the bigotry, and fears of a minority of Canadians… That is the dark side of the ”freedom of the press”.
If you(s) knew more about Stéphan Gendron, you would know that he will never be an asset to your cause.
His word means absolutely nothing in Québec and in Canada. He is a discredited lawer, bared from practicing law because of the stupid remarks, he can’t help himself from spewing… You’ve heard of the ”foot in the mouth expression”. That defines Stéphane Gendron.
A majority of Francophones want to stay in Canada. All Francophones what to be FREE to live, in French.
If you of, ”the nightmare clan” are incapable of understanding what most other Canadians can… Move… That’s your best option.
Australia sounds far enough to me.
first of all Peter with all due respect I am not a doe doe.. got that!! Of course i read your bio but for a person with that kind of a bio you did ok in QC you made money there as I did.. In fact I retired in QC.. and I do not like name calling either and I do not think that adds to your bio!!
I understand all of what you are saying the radicals, etc etc.. and for the most part i agree this past election has truly done a number on businesses etc.. but can you not see the lack of intelligence by Me Mariois and the French laugh at her the same as we do..
It is Easter weekend and yesterday was Good Friday I think this is one weekend that we could all remember why we are here and the lovely things we have been given, nature in all it’s beauty surely I prefer to focus on the positive even if it be QC or any other place.. We are lucky to live in this country with all it’s warts
Rosie wrote: Students in Ontario’s publicly funded English-language schools are required to: study French as a Second Language from Grades 4 to 8, and earn at least one credit in FSL in secondary school to obtain the Ontario Secondary School Diploma. What is the purpose?
BRAVO to the english school board!!!!
Why am I not suprised by your question. First of all, the school is doing the correct thing, especially in a country that has two official languages. It’s a bonus to one’s resume. It would also be in the students best interest to enroll in a french school after grade 8. By choosing not to would be foolish.
It would be comparable to a student who wants to become a hairdresser but only wants to learn how to cut. Thinking no hairdresser would hire her. Same scenario for all jobs……you meet all requirements or you are on the outside looking in.
Pierre March 30, 2013 at 12:53 pm
YAWN…..YAWN….DO YOU ACTUALLY EXPECTED PEOPLE TO SWALLOW THE CRAP YOU JUST SPEWED .
YOU KEEP MENTIONING THE BIGOT WORD ,YET YOU HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE RAC**T ON MANY OCCASIONS.
YOU AGREE TO SEGREGATION,ALIENATION,AND OPPRESSION IN THE DEFENSE OF FRENCH LANGUAGE.
TIME TO START BURNING THOSE CROSSES AND SCARING THE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT” PURE LAINE”.
GET THE PITCH FORKS AND TORCHES OUT THE ENGLISH ARE ABOUT.
@ Jane
The money I could make anywhere. I also contributed to that society in an extremely positive way. I owe them nothing and they (quebec ) owe me nothing as well. Not everything revolves around $$$.
The fact that you think, be they french or English,people laugh at marois is not the issue here.
These anti_English laws and policies have been on -going for 53 years, with no end in sight. What I am trying to get across here, is that this is Canada, and 1 million + of our citizens have has their rights severely curtailed. I do not see this as a laughing matter. I think it is horrific
People IN CANADA are having their rights raped by this and past quebec governments, and people are concerned about shopping and boutiques . I like to think that I care, because if their rights can be taken away, so can mine.
We have the things we have, because many men died in wars for these rights. I know you appreciate “all the lovely things” we have and live, it sounds like to me, in a rose colored world, but there is also the REALITY of people being reduced to second class citizen status.
I have grandchildren, I do not them growing up in a Canada, where there are two sets of rules for people depending on what province they live in and what language they speak.
Do you ??? Happy Easter.
@ all
I answered all of pierre’s questions, but alas, My responses were not posted.
@Peter.. no I do not want my grandchildren growing up with tow sets of rues.. My grandchildren live here and are going to French school.. They got in because my daughter has a good command of the French language which is giving them this privilege.. I just think the more languages a person has the further they can go in life.. We will always disagree Peter I realize that and am ok with it.. I lived 65 of my years in QC and went through the both English Kids and French kids calling each other names.. not in my back yard.. .no pepsi..frog etc. etc.. not allowed as I just believe in respect.. One of my sons who lives in the Eastern Townships has not been too badly treated by the Francophone community of Magog!
I learned French as a child and still speak it..
Happy Easter to you too!
@ Jane
If the quebec government’s definition of equality meant what it is supposed to mean, then the issues would be moot. However, they are living by a different set of rules and laws. They have their own immigration system, they have an extremely restrictive education system. Businesses are hampered by these outrageous sign laws, in short there is nothing Canadian quebec.
quebec, should be out of Canada. There will be no reversal of their laws, or policies now, or in the near future. People are under a delusional concept if they believe otherwise.
The sooner they are out the better. I also have family there, in no way shape or form would I have preferred this scenario, however, the Canadian government has closed its eyes for53 and are not about to all of a sudden make a u-turn. The sooner thaey re out the better for all and we can be rid of this albatross that is forced bilingualism , strangulating our nation. I believe in bilingualism, but NOT FORCED on people.
Good grief Stella; go back and read my comment and give me a better answer than that. You were the one with the quote “What is the purspose” and if you read it again you will see I was in agreement with you. Who are you anyway?
stellabystarlight
March 30, 2013 at 2:43 pm
“It would also be in the students best interest to enroll in a french school after grade 8. By choosing not to would be foolish.”
It would be in the interest of the child in Quebec to have the same exposure to English by not choosing so would be foolish right?
Is mandating a language of which they are not of the culture for job opportunities cultural assimilation?
Rosie wrote: Why the waste of a student’s classroom time; time they will never get back. Time that would be better spent in the school yard kicking around a soccer ball then to be stuck in a classroom scraping the surface.
Good Grief Rosie, your post makes me wonder……
IT IS TO THE CHILD’S BENEFIT TO LEARN FRENCH FLUENTLY.
French immersion is the answer.
Wow, Pierre dieu merci que tu es sur mon côté, le bon.
One thing I find funny about peter is not just his all out lie like you stated, its the fact that he seems to have a background in everything. We talk about history, he’s a history major, we talk about finances, that is his forté, talk about sports he has relatives in the nhl. Beaucoup, beaucoup de mensonges et d’exagération.
I have seen stéphane gendron on tout le monde en parle and he’s a laughing stock.
Now as for my friend howard, you need to research on regulation 17. It lasted more then 10 years and it still has an effect on francophones in Ontario. Thank god for la loi 101, had it not been for that, being born in 1981, I probably would have been a victim of assimilation by now. Protecting the french language in Québec has a positive effect in Ontario. Thank god that 70 percent of the population of canada still view speaking both official languages as an asset.
One more thing I forgot, Probably the best thing in Québec. Went to Saint-Sauveur and me and my gf stopped at a little pub. We saw that they had a brand of beer called TREMBLAY. I always knew Quebecers were GENIUSES.
Easter:
Cory , highlander Eric ,edudyorlik, Rosie et al,
I hope the bunny rabbit is good to you all, lots of Easter “oeufs” and chochalatta
@ pierre, stella and trembly, I hope your Easter is surrounded by the easter “eggs” and choclate bunnies , so you can all fill up on sugar, and post your blogs with the conviction, oops, sorry, of true and fervent nationalists. I didn’t mean to mention “conviction, giving the “history” of your movement.
Remember NO ENGLISH EGGS OR ENGLISH RABBITS
REPORT EVERYTHING TO THE “L’OFFICE DE LA SCREW LES ANGLAIS ”
I believe for each English sign infraction, the L’Office is paying a bonus. A two stay at the auberge de la sante de Anglais. All expenses paid.
WOW , what an incentive. Go guys go
Come on, post this , its funny !!!!!
So a valid question that needs to be answered from former Quebecers here is why move away from la belle province to begin with if things were so great there? Moreover, I find it a bit ironic that these language problems seem to follow you into Eastern Ontario as well.
HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE:
stellabystarlight March 30, 2013 at 7:35 pm
“IT IS TO THE CHILD’S BENEFIT TO LEARN FRENCH FLUENTLY.”
It is to the child’s benefit to learn another language not just french.
Many of those children come from other ethnicities,let’s encourage them to maintain thier culture and language rather then assimilate them to French.
Richard tremblay March 30, 2013 at 8:14 pm
“One thing I find funny about peter is not just his all out lie like you stated, its the fact that he seems to have a background in everything.”
Now ,Now Richard its well known that you cannot debate the issue but that does not give you a right to character assassinat ,butI guess that’s the best you can do ,sad ,really sad.
“Now as for my friend howard, you need to research on regulation 17. It lasted more then 10 years and it still has an effect on francophones in Ontario. ”
So Richard how is it still in effect?
Please answer !
” Thank god for la loi 101, had it not been for that, being born in 1981, I probably would have been a victim of assimilation by now”.”
So let’s see you don’t agree with the oppressive regulaion 17 ,but you agree with the even more oppressive bill 101!
Oppressing any culture is wrong Richard and for you to not agree with one but agree with the other says much of your bigotry and Rac**m.But bigotry and Rac**m is excepted as long its in the intrest to protect the French language.
Regulation 17 and bill 101 are both wrong but only one remains on the books.
Get burning those crosses and get the nooses ready time for your ethnic cleansing.
“We saw that they had a brand of beer called TREMBLAY. I always knew Quebecers were GENIUSES.”
You really loveyourself don’t you ?You must make love to YOURSELF OFTEN,GET MADAM MAROIS PICTURE,DON’T FORGET THE HEIL HITLER SORRY MAROIS SOLUTE .
Again howard you’Re talking out of your …. lets compare the two. Is la loi 101 cutting funding from english schools, nope.
Is la loi 101 not permitting anglos from attending english schools nope.
Is la loi 101, banning anglo signs, nope.(if you go actually have been in QUebec for more then 2 seconds you’ll agree with me)
Surely, howard you must agree that when you talk to someone and he’s familiar and has experiences in everything, well lets just say that he stretches the truth a bit. Getting back on debating the issues, please re read your last 2 sentences.
@ pierre
Re : your post march 30th. 12:15
This will be lengthy , please let me respond in kind to pierre’s post, I really believe it is “essential” he and others hear what I have written. This takes a ton of time to write, but it is only in response to his lengthy post.
1) There are many functioning alcoholics that preform well. It is a DISEASE. Treat it as such, this is NOT the 17th. century
2) Anyone with a driver’s license knows, you are responsible for being in control of your car at all times. levesque only dragged the guy 140 feet. The criminality part . was that he was DRUNK, and it WAS COVERED UP. Hundreds of people can attest to this fact.
Two of the people that covered it up were terrorists., I will explain, at the end of answering all your questions.
3)We have absolutely NOTHING in common with the FRAUD SQUAD. Read the discrepancies written here. Do you not see the major DIFFERENCES in thought and political positions taken ?
4) Your # 4, I have no idea what you are trying to say or what in hell you are making reference to.
5)pierre, let me again educate you on your provinces’ laws. BILL 101 makes quebec a unilingual a french province BY LAW
There are NO OUTDOOR ENGLISH SIGNS AS THEY RELATE BUSINESS ALLOWED IN QUEBEC. This is why they have quasi-language police pierre. Are you sure you have read bill 101??
Therefore quebec is NOT BILINGUAL
6) pierre, the french account for approximately 6-7 million in Canada. the English are approximately 28-30 million in Canada. So, unless you are now trying to Change the science of math, the English are predominant, by sheer numbers.
7) Many quebec families ( francophones ) have QUIETLY left quebec because they cannot get an English education for their children. They want the RIGHT TO CHOOSE, bill 101 takes this away from the. I met many, and I mean many francophones who have done this. It is not publicized, because they ( francophone families) do not want to experience what the HONORABLE MAYOR GRENDRON Is experiencing, destruction to his property for speaking the truth.
8) Anglos , ARE RESTRICTED in their education. Since 1970 the English education system has fallen by 75%. Why ??
Bill 101 severely restricts who is eligible to attend English schools, and who is not. READ bill 101
9) Bill 101 states the both parents have to be educated in English at the elementary school level. This is RESTRICTIVE. It is why the English system has decreased by 75 % since 1970.
10) I never, ever said anglos do not make an honest living in quebec. I did say, that the government of quebec encourages the french to “SQUEAL AND RAT OUT” the English, if they post business signage they feel is against a racist law. And they do.
11) In 1960, the advent of the quiet revolution, the English were blamed for having economic control over the french. We had economic control over the french BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN PREMEIERS, duplessis, godbout and tachereau .
AS for flourishing, I was talking of language. Your language and culture was never endanger, it flourished.
AS a side note, the spin off to many of the English controlled companies, was the development of french owned companies such as Bombardier, SNC -Lavalin and others. So you OWE US.
12) get out of quebec, drive down the 401, and ask.
People, the English, are truly fed up of quebec and her belly aching .
They DO NOT want any form of bilingualism that is FORCED on them. They do not want a bilingualism that MEANS french ONLY
I live in a upper middle lass English community of over 1miollion people, just talking to people and you know how they feel. I travel extensively, and talk to people as well, they feel the same.
This is in both Canada and the U.S. Particularly when I show them what you and the fraud squad write on these posts. There is a lot more to Canada than western quebec and eastern Ontario.
Don’t go by government polls, they are purposely skewered , and the questions are framed to illicit the answers they want.
Why is it , when some one like THE HONORABLE STAPHANE GRENDRON disagrees with your position you attack his character. He is a mayor, not some high flunky drop out that just fell off the boat. If he agreed with your position, he would be your hero, because he is honest and courageous you bad mouth him.
rene levesque, your founder and father of this mess, surrounded himself with : Yves Michaud, a terrorist, Jean- Denis Lamoureux, the murderer of Walter Leja, killed in a mailbox bomb, and you have the “nerve” to mention Grendron.
BYW: both Michaud and Lamoureux were involved with levesque killing the man with his car. Details of this I can provide upon request, as well as their terrorist histories.
As for the franophones wanting to live in Canada, then they should abide by Canadian law, get rid of bill 101, live like ALL OTHER CANADIAN provinces or LEAVE They are either in CANADA or out. There are no “special ” people here, we are ALL EQUAL.
@ Cory, Highlander, Edudyorlik, Rosie, David,Eric, pierre, trembly
In order to get the whole and complete picture of my last post, I suggest you refer to
“EDGAR TROTTIER” MEMORIES July 22, 2009.
The information I related to you, from my last post is found there, in regards to levesque and the terrorists he not only employed, but socially associated with them as well.
pierre / trembly
Deny if you wish, as you tried to do with THE HONORABLE STAPHANE GRENDRON, but it is all there for all to see.
@ Fair minded Canadians, on CFN this includes:
Cory, Highlander, Edudyorlik, David, Rosie, Eric et al.
It is for these reasons, that I believe that the government of quebec, has, is and always will be associated with terrorists. It is also why I believe that Canada, has a policy of appeasement in this country. They are concerned that the radicals will surface and Canada will be thrown into another October crisis of 1970.
I say, let them come. Social peace is a very poor excuse for the forfeiting of basic democratic rights. What else is there worth fighting for, if not our basic, inalienable democratic right than to live in a free and unrestricted CANADA, where majority rules, as is the very essence of democracy.
To this end, that is why, I strongly support separation of quebec from Canada. I hate living in a Canada where quebec controls the Canadian agenda, while the other nine provinces are held hostage to their whims and constant belly aching and cry baby tactics.
If Canada is that bad, then go please go. The fraud squad would be shocked, if they really know how Canadians felt deep, deep
down. Canada is compromised of many, many cultures that appreciate that we are among the most democratic in the world. But NOT WHEN IT COMES TO quebec. Canada’s dirty little secret is becoming public knowledge, and this will come back to haunt them both internally and externally, if this is not dealt with NOW.
Public awareness and advertising, boycotting are just the tip of the iceberg here. All of us have forwarded thes posts to others across the land and beyond. Over time these communictions will have the desired effect. But, if they don’t work, we will try something else, until our goals and aspirations are fulfilled completely.
Richard bill 101 is far worse the regulation 17 ,but you agree cause it promotes yours at the loss of rights of others.
So you think your rights are more important then others!
You believe in segregation !
You have implied that the English deserve bill 101 because of regulation 17.
You believe that the government should control what the citizens speak and think.
So when Quebec separates where do you plan on living?
Do you plan on staying in Quebec to round up the non pure laine?
Get the torches ,the robes and perhaps branding irons an “A” on you if you are not pure laine .
Peter you remained well informed.
Thanks
@ trembly
WRONG WRONG WRONG AND WRONG
AS usual.
1) can ANY English Student attend ANY SCHOOL OF HIS OR HER CHOOSING, “WITHOUT RESTRICTION ” Yes or no ?
NO, there are severe restrictions and this applies to french students wanting to attend English schools as well.
In 1970, there were a combined total ( English Catholic and English protestant ) of 27 high schools numbering approximately 2500-3000 students per school. Today, there are a combined total , of maybe 7-10 schools, numbering approximately 150 to 500 students max. Why ? BILL 101.
*** This doesn’t include the elementary schools, which were hit as well.
Please indicate where there are English signs posted externally promoting English business in quebec. Name the business, and the street, other than route 138 on the Indian reserves ( Delson, St.Constant,).
This is why the L’ofice de la langue francais is in existence, to PREVENT THE EXTERNAL DISPLAYING ENGLISH SIGNAGE FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES.
Please show me, and name the businesses. I DEFY YOU AGAIN
trembly.
You got NOTHING, NOTHING
2) Bill 101 DOES NOT PERMIT BY LAW A BUSINESSMAN FROM OPENLY DISPLAYING AN ENGLISH SIGN TO PROMOTE HIS BUSINESS Go down any of the streets in Montreal and I DEFY YOU TO SHOW ME ENGLISH SIGNAGE PROMOTING BUSINESSES
I am hoping Quebec does not seperate…….then perhaps some from the “nightmare clan” will leave the country…..finally peace of mind!!!! Allelluia!!!!!
read bill 86 peter. and, if you don’t believe me just go to the hull casino. There is a sign out at the entrance, bilingual sign. And, the government posted it up. Now i’m not sure on this but I believe the anglos contested bill 101 that is why robert bourassa had to change it….again, not sure but I know bill 86 exist and permits some outdoor signs.
Stella, you and I know the country is doing fine. Some of our unilingual anglo buddies are exaggerating just a tad. Could I be doing better financially, yes. But I’m not going to blame everyone else for the lack of funds in my bank account. Its frustrating because our friends expect every minority to speak english so THEY can get ahead. Now is that selfishness or all out laziness.
oh and peter, that sign I talked about is on the left of the entrance. And, yes there is service in english at the hull casino. I wonder if I’d call beth trudeau at her LFA office if I’d get service in french ? She says she’s bilingual but she choses not to speak french…same for Howard galganov. go figure..