Eric Little of Ottawa Ontario Suggests Service Ontario Offer More Language Services – LTE

LTEImagine walking into a Service Ontario location and being served. Now imagine sitting in a comfortable chair and having a voice/video link with a government office. Now imagine speaking in one of say 5 main languages with a real person just like at a counter. Using technology to help people is not new, you can even get an app on your smart phone to detect where your metal property line marker is. Of course that app would not help to get your new license plates or help order a new health card but there is technology that can.

Surely with a bit of planning and will, we can create something to help more people get things done in a manner that concentrates on citizens needs. Some bank machines already provide several languages to use, there are 9-1-1 call centers that instantly connect to translation services that can cover 140 languages and we have had hearing/speech impaired interfaces for years.

Why can’t we have a central station in say Toronto with round the clock operators that can provide assistance in several languages? Assistance for health cards, some translation and real time support. If after a hundred plus years of language issues that no one seems ready to discuss and work towards solutions, the least we can do is help people that need it, is that not what multiculturism & bilingualism was about? Language duality is a wonderful concept but really, after 40 plus years of the Official Languages Act, 26 years of the Ontario French Languages Services Act and billions of dollars, the percentage of bilingual Canadians has remained stagnant outside of Quebec, but let’s put technology to work for the benefit of all Canadians even as a trial, each Ontario ministry already has a language coordinator, give them technology as well,and stop saying why we can’t do something, ask your MP and MPP how we can!

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446 Comments

  1. @stellabystarlight RE (inaccurate post) on August 24, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Stella wrote “HFTT: EXCELLENT!!!!! THE KING OF RANTS HAS BEEN PUT IN HIS PLACE ONCE AGAIN……….BRAVO MON AMI!!!!!”

    Excuse me *s* but your pal Hungry did not address me at all. I think you were referring to someone he has labeled as the KING OF INACCURACIES (a moniker which i don’t happen to agree with but… ) I didn’t see any direct quotes to me…

    The one, the only …

    KING OF RANTS… wha ha ha ha ha… Say it loud, and say it proud. All hail… 🙂

    Try again Stella. You’ll get it eventually. Practice makes perfect ya know.
    Just do what you did when you were practicing and repeating the mantra to get French service in all the rest of Canada. Keep repeating.

    “I demand service in French.” 😉

    Shall i take the training wheels off my dear ?

  2. And then Galganov and his merry band of freedom-fighters moved on to South Glengarry where they tried to get Council to pass a resolution to never pass a sign bylaw. Such a resolution is illegal under the Ontario Municipal Act. Simply put, no council can pass a resolution that would tie the hands of future councils. Once again, these clowns caused a bit of a stir and got a lot of laughs. Sometimes it’s hard to tell if they are freedom-fighters or a comedy troupe.

  3. Stella you continue to baffle me by stating that Highlander is Howard Galganov despite many of us including the owner of this news service stating otherwise…

    This leads me to believe that by your very statements you seem to deny something when it’s clearly siting in front of your face.

    What’s more, is the fact that there have been posters that have approached your argumentative stance and poked holes through and through. One such accusation that you’ve repeatedly thrown at me is that you’ve accused me of being anti French; this despite the fact that I married a Francophone; received an Immersion education through university and have volunteered for French organizations.

    I find it disturbing that someone like yourself is led to believe that I’m anti French even after being informed of all of the above.

    Because you seem to be the type to believe rhetoric such as what the PQ feeds the Francophone Quebec masses.

    At Hftt. I would approach the board of Directors as either a member of LFA or as an individual to plead the case of fair hiring practices but only on the condition that CFN would be permitted to record the event in full. Reason being – well; past actions from CCH has led me to believe that they’re not trustworthy. Both Jamie and my brother have had the authorities called due to their concerns with CCH. Why would their approach to me be any different?

  4. Highlander wrote…
    “That right to freely choose was taken away with municipality’s enforcement of signs bylaw ,already 70% of that said community had bilingual signs ….so why FORCE THEM and not be given their own choice?
    That reeks of Marxism.”

    Oh yeah Highlander. I can smell it from here.

    Imagine if all of this were taking place in reverse in Quebec. The land that time forgot. The land where nary an English word should be seen or spoken.

    It’s such a sad state of affairs that the French are so fearful that they have to literally outlaw and belittle another language and culture within the French bastion of Quebec and then take over with French first and French ONLY in any other places where they gain a foothold OUTSIDE OF Quebec just to insure their superiority OVER others.

    Must be horrible to go through life with such little confidence in ones language and culture that they have to put ALL others down just to feel a sense of security.

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  5. highlander August 24, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    AKA King of Inaccuracies

    “Did you know lives for lies freedom of expression is one of the hallmarks of a democracy? By your above statement its appears you have no understanding of what democracy is.”

    No I did not know King of Inaccuracies, that you perceived and considered that freedom of speech was the hallmark of democracy in your world.

    In my world it’s Respect and Civility that is the hallmark of democracy. Respect and Civility are the cornerstone and the first guiding principle that structures our right to freedom of speech.

    Otherwise some may come to believe that they have the right to insult and injure others and become delusional that everything is OK to express. When you remove Respect and Civility from the equation this is what freedom of speech sounds like.

    “….I’m not afraid to call the P.Q. a bunch of ethnocentric racists.”

    “….We have to beat the crap out of these … crap heads.”

    “….I saw that cow Josée Legault.”

    “…These guys are Nazis, period.”

    “…the scum who sit as our government in Quebec City.”

    “.. show respect for the majority, so screw the minority?”

    “… ethnocentric racists.”

    Not a pretty sight. I think this explains why RESPECT and CIVILITY are good guiding principle. In my world anyways.

    The above is excerpts taking from the letter of complaint
    sent to the CRTC in regards to Howard Galganov utilizing
    his freedom of speech.

  6. Hungry for the Truth…. August 24, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    ” In my world it’s Respect and Civility that is the hallmark of democracy. Respect and Civility are the cornerstone and the first guiding principle that structures our right to freedom of speech.”

    So that explains your reference to me as a King of inaccuracies.

    ” Not a pretty sight. I think this explains why RESPECT and CIVILITY are good guiding principle. In my world anyways.”

    Ya there’s your respect lives for lies.

    Contradictions are continuall with you.

  7. “….I’m not afraid to call the P.Q. a bunch of ethnocentric racists.”

    “….We have to beat the crap out of these … crap heads.”

    “….I saw that cow Josée Legault.”

    “…These guys are Nazis, period.”

    “…the scum who sit as our government in Quebec City.”

    “.. show respect for the majority, so screw the minority?”

    “… ethnocentric racists.”

    I beg to differ.
    With one or two minor exceptions these quotes sound familiar to me. They sound VERY MUCH like the frustration and anger of MANY Anglophones i have spoken with over the last several years who have lost jobs, not been promoted or simply been pushed out of good jobs to make room for a French candidate who’s only “extra” “skill” is that he can speak French in a country where Anglophones are the majority.

    Again, if this whole thing were reversible in EVERY aspect i am afraid that you wouldn’t be discussing how verbally rude someone was hftt. You would be discussing how many people were injured or killed in the past weeks.

    If it were the French who won the war and the Anglo’s were “coming back” to take what they had lost fair and square while and calling the shots as a minority the way we see today in this country people would loose more than their dignity.

    In other words when you deal with Anglo’s who have taken this sh!t for as long as Howard has you end up with a few terse comments but when you deal Franco’s in this same scenario there would be body bags piled up.

    Fun fun fun…

  8. Eric August 24, 2013 at 5:18 am

    “HFTT, I have been following the Galganov/Brisson story for some time and have read the court transcripts. I still feel that Russell Township rushed a law in when there was no need, over 70% of business owners already had bilingual signs.”

    If 70% of business owner already had bilingual signs by their own voluntary action to do so only tells me that the by-law that was drafted was reflective of the majority’s wish.

    If the reverse had happened where only 30% of business-owners had bilingual signs than I would be inclined to agree that they rushed in. From what I can understand the intent of the by-law was responsive to the majority’s wish and approval. It created uniformity and fairness to all business-owners based on 70% of business-owners that had demonstrated voluntary use of bilingualism on their signs.

    “HFTT, take a look at Ontario construction sites and government employer lots close to but on both sides of the border during a week day. Count the license plates. It is much easier to work in Ont. than Que. The connection with Bill 80 runs deep.

    This has been an evidentiary fact for years. But what does it have to do with languages?

    “The Ottawa Hospitals have enlarged greatly to accommodate Quebec patients.”

    This may be very well a fact. If patients from Quebec are coming to Ontario for treatment it’s because it is their Constitutional Right. Canada’s Equal Service Standards under the Charter of rights. (An interesting read.) What we need to know is the patient that is utilizing Ontario services present their “Carte Soleil” and as a result is paid for from the Quebec medicare budget.

    “I am happy to see Canadians getting health care, although it means more jobs need to be bilingual to deal with patients from Quebec, and of course, the Ontario taxpayers who pay an additional health tax have longer lines.”

    The difficulty that I have with the argument that FRENCH speaking requires that jobs be bilingual, is it not if the need warrant’s it should it not be. Do French-speaking Canadians
    not pay taxes into the collective pot to service the needs all Canadians?

    “The hospitals do not have a deduction from annual income from Ontario for money received from Quebec and have no incentive to stop.”

    If Hospital where obligated to make a distinction of provincial origin of the patient, choosing to only service the needs of patients from Ontario, this practice would be highly discriminatory
    to all Canadians. Based on this formula they should not treat patients from Alberta or New Brunswick etc…Etc..
    The Hospitals are not double dipping. A service is a service.

  9. highlander August 24, 2013 at 6:07 pm
    AKA King of Inaccuracies

    “So that explains your reference to me as a King of inaccuracies.”

    The reference(S) can be found in the numerous post that contained inaccuracies. Earning you the tittle of King of Inaccuracies.

    Does not require any further explanation. It’s self explanatory.

  10. Edudyorlik August 24, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    “I beg to differ.”

    Why should you have to beg? To impose and control comes natural to you. No need to beg, do as usual, just bang away
    and slam everyone that doesn’t share your senseless RANTING.

    Respect and Civility……

    If a pedestrian knows that a bus is coming and make a conscious decision to willingly cross the street, despite his knowledge and gets hit, should he be considered a victim?
    Who made that decision to cross the bus driver or the pedestrian?

    No one forces anyone to be an English rights activists IT’S A CHOICE.

    How can Galganov be considered a victim? He alone has freely chosen to become an English rights activists and utilize radical tactics, unbecoming vocabulary, insults and brutal disrespect on everyone from everywhere in the name of DEMOCRACY.

    Now you want to paint him as a VICTIM. He’s a victim of his own demise. Are you for real…..??????

  11. Hungry for the Truth…. August 24, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    “This may be very well a fact. If patients from Quebec are coming to Ontario for treatment it’s because it is their Constitutional Right. Canada’s Equal Service Standards under the Charter of rights. (An interesting read.) What we need to know is the patient that is utilizing Ontario services present their “Carte Soleil” and as a result is paid for from the Quebec medicare budget.”

    Lives for lies YOU ARE WRONG ONCE AGAIN IT’S A PATTERN FOR YOU .
    The constitution does not guarantee interprovincial health services The Canada health care act does.

    Now I should now be calling YOU …. AKA THE KING OF INACCURACIES BUT THAT WOULD BE TOO CHILDISH.

    Oh by the way many Quebecers use Ontario’s health system at a discount .
    Let me explain here to you and others :

    I have it from a reliable source a manager at the Ottawa Heart institute that 20 % of their patients come from Quebec.

    Quebec has different billing ratio’s so often surgeries or procedures Quebec only reimburses at 75-80 % of Ontario’s costs leaving Ontario’s taxpayers paying the rest.

    This costs Ontario taxpayers many millions and burdons our health care system further and this financial loss results cutbacks and loss of services.

  12. HFTT said “If 70% of business owner already had bilingual signs by their own voluntary action to do so only tells me that the by-law that was drafted was reflective of the majority’s wish.”

    Perhaps other factors then led to the drastic vote loss the Mayor had between 2006 and 2010, but really, a Council should not be able to remove or suspend a Charter Right. If this is how the area’s majority French treat minorities, we are really doing something wrong as a society and makes one wonder about the future.

    The whole idea of a council wanting anything more than letting a business market to “it’s” clientele, to thrive or die on it’s own volition, is wrong and just political. Provide a climate for growth yes, but not affecting Charter Rights of the people paying for that government.

    HFTT, language comes into play when jobs become bilingual (97% of people in Ontario can speak English) to treat more patients from outside the province, I thought that would have been clear. If I lived in Quebec I would think my province doesn’t care about an area that can’t or won’t provide decent health care by the way.

    The hospitals do not claim the income (Quebec pays less per service as well) from Quebec against the total received from Ontario. If money from outside was deducted from the total given by the province, there would be less stress on getting patients elsewhere and our wait times would go down.

    Ontario residents are paying an additional health tax to Ontario hospitals, Quebec is not. Treat people yes of course, but a province, as Quebec shows, should be taking care of it’s own in a timely manner first.

  13. HFTT, I love this “How can Galganov be considered a victim? He alone has freely chosen to become an English rights activists and utilize radical tactics, unbecoming vocabulary, insults and brutal disrespect on everyone from everywhere in the name of DEMOCRACY.”

    I have read some of his website insights, posted for the world to see. The only thing he can be accused of overall is not using the flowery wording, society is at fault not you, here have more free money and everything you want, thinking.

  14. Hungry for the Truth…. August 24, 2013 at 9:21 am

    highlander August 23, 2013 at 7:11 pm AKA King of Inaccuracies

    “So you made a fault your only human but will you admit the fault is another story …..that pride of yours has already burned you before .”

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 23, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    Thank-You for the information. I stand corrected.

    “Once again false accusations and false information. I have no problem admitting I’ve made a mistake. It’s no shame. Coming from the King of Inaccuracies it’s not surprising that once again it’s not true.”

    I love your spin on this one .
    You were proven wrong yet again ,you stand corrected as you say ,then defer by calling me King of inaccuracies (very child like) then you continue to defer By stating “Once again false accusations and false information” when it was you that was proven wrong.

    But carry on young Jedi of propaganda your Jedi propaganda master stella is proud of her convert. keep up your child like antics the viewers DO KNOW THE REALITY.

  15. ON August 24, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    highlander wrote, “Lives for lies YOU ARE WRONG ONCE AGAIN IT’S A PATTERN FOR YOU .
    The constitution does not guarantee interprovincial health services The Canada health care act does.”

    Great post highlander. Keep it real buddy.

    http://youtu.be/K94J2F40AyQ?t=10m53s – Hospital issue –

    http://youtu.be/K94J2F40AyQ?t=8m34s — Hospital issue —

    All Anglo’s should listen to ALL of this two part video as it is all spelled out here.

    In essence (this may come as a shock the “agitator gang” but i put a lot of blame on the Anglophones)

    for not getting involved and not fighting back. Yes, i know it’;s our nature to be good matured, kind, accepting, accommodating and so on but, these are the classy human Anglo traits that the French prey on and frankly, there MUST be a limit.)

  16. Respect and Civility…… Yeah right !!

    Your little diatribe with the “veiled disrespectful attacks” may Indeed give you a false sense of superiority which you seem to crave — by the way — and also seem to believe you have (like I previously asked. What was the name of that oil your mommy and daddy rubbed on your as a baby that gives you such a sense of superiority?)

    “Hungry for truth (lives for lies) wrote, “
    To impose and control comes natural to you. No need to beg, do as usual, just bang away and slam everyone that doesn’t share your senseless RANTING.”
    AND
    “Now you want to paint him as a VICTIM. He’s a victim of his own demise. Are you for real…..??????”

    Worded so as to not seem as though they disrespectful and uncivil but, that’s just clever wording which doesn’t fool me or impress me in the least.

    No matter what type of fancy wrapping or packaging you put on a lump of shi!t it’s still a lump of shi!t and once you lean over and small it, it also smells like a lump of sh!t too.

    Besides, when you first starting writing in this forum you were not exactly always civil and respectful yourself, so where is this almighty stance coming from now?

    Just a new twist to stay away from — THE REAL ISSUES — and the real TRUTH about what is going on in this country and how it all these injustices are being exposed right here in this forum for thousands to read. AND YOU KNOW IT…

    Oh and, you didn’t seem to address any of those real issues at all in your response to me.

    I asked you to refute any specific section from my videos. I am still waiting. It’s been about 3 or 4 days now but nothing.

    What’s the problem? There is plenty of ammo. I have almost hundred videos which blatantly show how the minority French and Quebec are abusing the power they were handed by an unscrupulous former P.M. named Pierre Elliot Trudeau and using old laws that were put in under suspicious (to say the least) situations and methods to subvert the Anglophone majority in Canada.

    In most (if not all) other countries what Trudeau did (the fudging of the constitution to suite his clan and implementing laws that would also favor his clan designed to help them in their quest towards their quiet take over of this country) ARE and or would be tantamount to a coup and considered treasonous acts that would be pushed back in whatever form was necessary. Personally, i am NOT an advocate of violence BUT, i believe that the majority Anglophone population in this country MUST (and soon will) band together and simply produce change by virtue of the sheer numbers.

    The united nations is even on record as having mentioned that the laws Quebec have instituted go against human rights and are unconstitutional. Certainly you, as a supposed intelligent person (man / woman?) could not begin to defend any one of these bills — 101, 22, 178 or 14 could you ?

    Oh and, the example you used to try to paint Howard in a negative way is simply … Lame

    “If a pedestrian knows that a bus is coming and make a conscious decision to willingly cross the street, despite his knowledge and gets hit, should he be considered a victim?
    Who made that decision to cross the bus driver or the pedestrian?”

    Obviously, if the pedestrian knew there would be injury he would not cross. The “conscious decision” to “willingly” cross is obviously made with understanding that he would be safe and make it across. Thus, the ONLY real “knowledge” is the knowledge that he will make it.

    Of course, as just a relative part of life and living, it is possible that neither the bus driver nor the pedestrian are at fault. It is simply what is known as — an accident —

    Under your warped logic I suppose you also believe that “if a woman is out at 3 am in a park with a mini skirt on and she is raped it’s her fault.”

    Nice try lives for lies. Both Howard and the woman are innocent people doing what they feel is their right to do and it is those who attack them who are the predators that turn them into victims.

    No dice big shot. Howard is fighting a cause that more Anglophones should be fighting in this wonderful country because what is going on in this country is unfair, unjust and downright IMMORAL in many ways when one considers the laws that the French and Quebec are passing off as “constitutional” WHICH THEY ARE NOT.

    Not in my books anyways. You can come up with all the BS you want that claim these laws are constitutional but that will NOT change the truth.

    Why don’t you address these issue instead of pussyfooting around with fancy, unnecessary verbiage and quoting of every damn none issue thing you can pull up from past posts just to keep the REAL FOCUS away from the REAL issue..

    PS: “Beg to differ” is simply a figure of speech. A very common one at that. If you wish to try and twist even such “figures of speech” into something you believe will impress Stella please don’t waste my time any more. Stick to TRUTH and the issue at hand.

    And on that note…
    I take this opportunity to (as you seem to frequently do) “warp” things slightly and wish you

    a great “freedom of speech” kind of day 🙂

    All hail…. 😉


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  17. highlander August 24, 2013 at 10:10 pm
    AKA King of Inaccuracies.

    “Lives for lies YOU ARE WRONG ONCE AGAIN IT’S A PATTERN FOR YOU . The constitution does not guarantee interprovincial health services The Canada health care act does.”

    No King of inaccuracies, there is no inaccuracies in my claim. Here is the supporting information. The Health Care Act is the legislative frame work that delivers Part III of the The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom requirements.

    This legislation structures the Government’s obligation that guarantees the provision of essential public services of reasonable quality to all Canadians that originates from
    The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom.

    Constitution Act, 1982: Document
    Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

    Part III, Equalization and Regional Disparities

    36. (1) Without altering the legislative authority of Parliament or of the provincial legislatures, or the rights of any of them with respect to the exercise of their legislative authority, Parliament and the legislatures, together with the government of Canada and the provincial governments, are committed to (a) promoting equal opportunities for the well-being of Canadians; (b) furthering economic development to reduce disparity in opportunities; and (c) providing essential public services of reasonable quality to all Canadians.

    (2) Parliament and the government of Canada are committed to the principle of making equalization payments to ensure that provincial governments have sufficient revenues to provide reasonably comparable levels of public services at reasonably comparable levels of taxation.

    “Now I should now be calling YOU …. AKA THE KING OF INACCURACIES BUT THAT WOULD BE TOO CHILDISH.”

    There is no need to call me KING OF INACURACIES. You have once again earned yourself the tittle. And how is your continuous use of “live for lies” in every rebuttal post any less CHILDISH than what you accuse me of.

    “Oh by the way many Quebecers use Ontario’s health system at a discount .Let me explain here to you and others :”

    All of this is balanced in the Federal Equalization Payments. And furthermore with the new calculation formula of 2013-2014.

  18. oh my here we go again. language talk.. I think Cornwall and other small areas are stuck on the “language” laws or lack of them.. I have been to NB PEI just recently and you know what everywhere I go I hear both languages… Amazing people seem to get along except for here..

    Is there nothing better to do in Cornwall than to try to continue to fight over language..

    I have recently been to QC lately too no problem getting English spoken to me..
    The media is destroying or I should say trying to destroy the good relationship that many French and English folks share..

  19. edudyorlik
    August 25, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Great post highlander. Keep it real buddy.

    I make every attempt edudyorlik.

    Some prefer to remain childish!Even when overwhelming information has been proven that lives for lies lives in a pattern of inaccuracies on many occasions.
    And yet I am branded as inaccurate …….Much similar to how the word bigot was used to oppress freedom of speech when one stands up for ones rights when requesting equality.

    There is a clear agenda no question of it ,rights are rights and all should be treated as equal ….but sadly under Canadian language laws NOT ALL ARE EQUAL!

    TIME TO REMOVE LANGUAGE APARTHEID IN THIS COUNTRY!

  20. Not only are the French taking advantage of us and the warped constitution and laws of this country but they are outright blatant about it and shove it right in our faces.

    Caller – If you go to the hospital in Quebec there is a 24 wait for emergency

    Caller – (flouting it) I’m from QUEBEC AND THERE IS NO WAY I WILL GO TO A QUEBEC HOSPITAL

    Lowell – NO, YOU COME HERE AND USE OUR facility while paying your taxes in Quebec

    Called — (Arrogantly) Yeah well, I go for the best.

    Lowell (speaking on behalf of the rest of us tax payers) — Yeah except, we gotta pay for it.

    http://youtu.be/K94J2F40AyQ?t=10m53s

    But, then of course, any tiny attempt to show our Anglophone pride –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0VurIwXuM&hd=1

    – in one place — on one day — with one show of pride — (compared to the multitude of examples the French do with many having been posted and spoken about here in this forum) is met with anger, threats of how “it would be an insult”

    http://youtu.be/RM0VurIwXuM?t=1m47s

    (yeah right — I guess there can be no insulting comparison to sticking Franco flags everywhere — in THEEEE most visible places — across the majority Anglophone (94%) city of Ottawa))

    — and then usually violence.

    As any of these examples are not a higher degree of insult to Anglophone Canadians, then i don’t know what is

    http://youtu.be/k3CMpi8TxCU?t=3m45s
    or this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWwejJg5jhQ&hd=1
    or this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjjSrMmcQJg&hd=1
    or this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2y7pCaU4ec&hd=1

    That’s right. Keep in mind. This is taking place in

    a country where the
    British won the war.

    a country where the
    the majority population is Anglophone

    a country where the
    the Anglo’s often celebrate (unless they don’t let us as in St Jean day which they have deemed a French only https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G0SCotuwYI&hd=1

    — get out of my face Anglo’s day —

    all things Franco and French openly and with equal pride for their side.

    THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES right there

    PLUS

    a province where the
    the English are the majority (The French only make up approx 30% of the population)

    A province where the everything French is celebrated to the hilt

    ETC ETC ETC…

    IT IS TIME FOR THE ENGLISH to wake up, band together and stand for something. Because, if they don’t then what Trudeau did with the fudging of the constitution and implemented unjust, unfair, and one sided laws will prevail to it’s intended outcome.

    And frankly, the the Anglo and their complacency and inaction will be the only place to point the finger.

  21. Too funny Kilroy! So, you’re a Lowell Green fan are you? ‘Splains a lot, says I (arrogantly).
    Carry on.

  22. highlander August 25, 2013 at 9:35 am
    AKA King of Inaccuracies.

    I love your spin on this one .
    You were proven wrong yet again ,you stand corrected as you say ,then defer by calling me King of inaccuracies (very child like) then you continue to defer By stating “Once again false accusations and false information” when it was you that
    was proven wrong”

    highlander August 23, 2013 at 7:11 pm
    AKA King of inaccuracies.

    “So you made a fault your only human but will you admit the fault is another story …..that pride of yours has already burned you before .”

    In contextual reference this is the reality their is no SPIN.

    You inaccurately state King of Inaccuracies that “but will you admit the fault is another story …..that pride of yours has already burned you before” When in fact I had already admitted my mistake and stood corrected. Check the time stamps.

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 23, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    concerned citizen 2 August 23, 2013 at 6:19 pm
    A little more info re: Bill 80

    Thank-You for the info I stand corrected.

    So King of inaccuracies, once again false accusations and inaccuracies in your claim. “DO KNOW THE REALITY.” As I’ve said before I have no problem admitting to an error that I have made.

  23. Hungry for the Truth…. August 24, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    “This may be very well a fact. If patients from Quebec are coming to Ontario for treatment it’s because it is their Constitutional Right. Canada’s Equal Service Standards under the Charter of rights. (An interesting read.) What we need to know is the patient that is utilizing Ontario services present their “Carte Soleil” and as a result is paid for from the Quebec medicare budget.”

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 25, 2013 at 11:23 am

    Part III, Equalization and Regional Disparities

    This is regardsto the equalization not interprovincial health services of which are guaranteed by the health Canada act.

    You are wrong again and won’t admit to it.
    I am getting rather sick of correcting you …does anyone else see how that charter indicates of interprovincial heath coverage…are we missing something folks?

    You think that transfer payments go directly to the Ottawa Heart institute ?

    ” I have it from a reliable source a manager at the Ottawa Heart institute that 20 % of their patients come from Quebec.

    Quebec has different billing ratio’s so often surgeries or procedures Quebec only reimburses at 75-80 % of Ontario’s costs leaving Ontario’s taxpayers paying the rest.”

    Once again lives for lies you are wrong again ,I have lost track of all your inaccuracies,but YOU live with those lies.

  24. Furtz August 25, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    ” Too funny Kilroy! So, you’re a Lowell Green fan are you? ‘Splains a lot, says I (arrogantly). Carry on.”

    ONCE AGAIN THERE IS THAT DEEP INSIGHT FROM FURTZ.

  25. Furtz August 25, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Too funny Kilroy! So, you’re a Lowell Green fan are you? ‘Splains a lot, says I (arrogantly).
    Carry on.

    Never really said i was a fan or not. I quoted some stuff from him but… I dunno, does that make me a fan?

    But, at least we got the same from you …

    ZERO “real” input.

    but,
    “Carry on”

    just to quote someone i know.

    And remember, have a “no real thought between the ears kjnda day eh” 🙂

  26. highlander August 25, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    AKA King of Inaccuracies.

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 25, 2013 at 11:23 am

    “Part III, Equalization and Regional Disparities
    This is regardsto the equalization not interprovincial health services of which are guaranteed by the health Canada act.”

    King of Inaccuracies this is not EQUALIZATION PAYMNTS. This is Constitution Act, 1982: Part III,Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    No King of inaccuracies, there is no inaccuracies in my claim. Here is the supporting information. The Health Care Act is the legislative frame work that delivers Part III of the The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom requirements.

    This legislation structures the Government’s obligation that guarantees the provision of essential public services of reasonable quality to all Canadians that originates from
    The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom.

    It is Part III of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom.
    It is NOT Part III, Equalization and Regional Disparities as you inaccurately claim.

    THIS IS CAN BE VERRIFIED BY ALL OF IT”S CORRECTNESS.
    It is not an invention of mine, but FACTUAL EVIDENCE.

  27. Jane Doe August 25, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    “I have recently been to QC lately too no problem getting English spoken to me..The media is destroying or I should say trying to destroy the good relationship that many French and English folks share..”

    Very well said Jane Doe. In the name of public awareness I must let you know that comments such as yours that are indeed true, factual and accurate are torn apart by the band of like minded BROTHERHOOD that dominate this public forum and has recently been confirmed by one of the more senior members. This is
    like their support group.

    edudyorlik August 23, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    “open to all yes, but initially clearly focused around a group of like minded folks supporting each other in the face of unjust hiring practices at a Cornwall hospital”

    Unfair Hiring Practices at the CCH was the clear objective of the like minded folks. But, time has seen the inclusion of many other unrelated issues. The like minded folks claim are the contributing factors that have to be debated, abolished or changed in order
    to reverse the Hiring Practices in Cornwall. They call it “LANGUAGE APARTHEID”

    Linguistic Translation Service
    Languages Act of Canada
    Constitution Of Canada
    Bilingualism in Canada
    The French Language Service Act of Ontario
    Quebec’s English Laws
    Quebec’s Language Police
    Quebec’s Transfer Payments
    Separation Of Quebec
    Unfair Hiring Policies in Cornwall
    Unfair Hiring Policies in Canada
    Militia in Quebec
    Languages Apartheid
    Unfair use of Trillium Funds
    Lack of English construction signs on the TC
    Proposed Construction Bill 80

    So as you can see the like minded folks have convinced themselves that they are being treated as second class citizens by the French-language laws. So tread carefully. They take offence of a contrasting opinion than theirs. Are you seeing all this FOLKS?

  28. highlander
    August 25, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    Furtz August 25, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    ” Too funny Kilroy! So, you’re a Lowell Green fan are you? ‘Splains a lot, says I (arrogantly). Carry on.”

    ONCE AGAIN THERE IS THAT DEEP INSIGHT FROM FURTZ.

    Ha ha ha… LOL.. BIG Smile highlander.
    Loved your info and insight on the hospitals too. Keep up the good work mate 🙂

  29. @ Kilroy. I forgot to ask if those French flags in Ottawa are the same $50,000/each flags that Little Eric was whining about on another thread. I’m also curious to know if WMDs were found at the St. Albert Curd Festival. From what I’ve heard so far, the Curd Festival was fun for all. Did you attend the festival? Did you make it home without being assaulted by an “arrogant” Francophone?
    Take care, my friend. It’s a scary world out there.

  30. highlander August 25, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    AKA King of Inaccuracies.

    Before you take another stab at this I think I’m going to re post the information before you extrapolate and bastardize it again.

    Constitution Act, 1982: Document,
    Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

    Part III, Equalization and Regional Disparities is the sub-section taken from The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom.

  31. yorlik the king of rants wrote: I asked you to refute any specific section from my videos. I am still waiting. It’s been about 3 or 4 days now but nothing.

    I told you once and will tell you again….we don’t look at your videos……waste of time **smile**

    @Jane Doe…….welcome back Jane!! Yes the freedom fighters would like everyone to believe that millions upon millions across this beautiful country are supporting their radical agenda. They can say what they want, we know better.

    Jane Doe wrote: I have been to NB PEI just recently and you know what everywhere I go I hear both languages… Amazing people seem to get along except for here..

    That is right Jane. You want to know why? Unfortunately we have a guy by the name of galganov who lives in the area who started all this BS and who is trying desperately to eliminate anything French. I also have been to NB PEI and have English speaking friends in Montreal and NONE have a problem. The freedom fighters are the problem……….not the people.

  32. yorlik KING OF RANTS to highlander KING OF INACCURACIES:

    Loved your info and insight on the hospitals too. Keep up the good work mate 🙂

    OMG that is too funny….yorlik praising highlander who continually posts inaccuracies and is corrected every time he does……..hahaha!!!

    @Furtz…….the freedom fighters just don’t get it. You do not want to waste your time debating language issues which has been going on for 3 years now. You have indicated this many times……yet they continuously say you have Zero input………go figure. DUH!!!! HELLO???? lol

  33. Hungry for the Truth…. August 25, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    You are wrong again show us where in the charter it involves interprovincial health care ,like I said its health Canada that adresses that issue and not a charter issue .
    The charter issue you speak of does not guarantee interprovincial health services as you had originally stated.

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 24, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    “This may be very well a fact. If patients from Quebec are coming to Ontario for treatment it’s because it is their Constitutional Right. Canada’s Equal Service Standards under the Charter of rights. (An interesting read.) Hungry for the Truth…. August 24, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    “This may be very well a fact. If patients from Quebec are coming to Ontario for treatment it’s because it is their Constitutional Right. Canada’s Equal Service Standards under the Charter of rights. (An interesting read.) What we need to know is the patient that is utilizing Ontario services present their “Carte Soleil” and as a result is paid for from the Quebec medicare budget.” What we need to know is the patient that is utilizing Ontario services present their “Carte Soleil” and as a result is paid for from the Quebec medicare budget.”

    Constitution Act, 1982: Document Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

    Part III, Equalization and Regional Disparities

    36. (1) Without altering the legislative authority of Parliament or of the provincial legislatures, or the rights of any of them with respect to the exercise of their legislative authority, Parliament and the legislatures, together with the government of Canada and the provincial governments, are committed to (a) promoting equal opportunities for the well-being of Canadians; (b) furthering economic development to reduce disparity in opportunities; and (c) providing essential public services of reasonable quality to all Canadians.

    (2) Parliament and the government of Canada are committed to the principle of making equalization payments to ensure that provincial governments have sufficient revenues to provide reasonably comparable levels of public services at reasonably comparable levels of taxation

    Now lives for lies this is about equalization to ensure and reduce desparity and equality of services there is nothing guaranteeing interprovincial service As you stated above .

    This charter segment is to guarantee that services are equal in all provinces through transfer payments.

    Spin it what you may YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN THE CANADA HEALTH ACT GUARANTEES INTERPROVINCIAL HEALTHCARE .

    JUST WON’T ADMIT YOUR WRONG YET AGAIN ,REREAD THAT CHARTER SEGMENT YOU POSTED ,IT TALKS OF EQUALITY OF SERVICES AND LOOK AT THE TITLE “EQUALIZATION AND REGIONAL DISPARITIES”

    YOU SEE LIVES FOR LIES THE CHARTER GUARANTEE’ EQUAL SERVICES THROUGHT TRANSFER PAYMENTS ,BUT DOES NOT GUARANTEE INTERPROVCIAL SERVICES ,THAT IS GOVERNED BY CANADA HEALTH ACT.

    LIVES FOR LIES JUST ADMIT YOUR WRONG AND LET’S GO BEYOND THIS .

    I WON’T START CALLING YOU AKA King of Inaccuracies EVEN THOUGHT YOU HAVE EARNED THAT TITLE BECAUSE I THINK IT’S CHILDISH TO DO SO.

    JUST ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG ,IT’S SIMPLE YOUR ONLY HUMAN .

    OH YES THAT PRIDE THING.

  34. stellabystarlight August 25, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    ” I told you once and will tell you again….we don’t look at your videos……waste of time **smile**”

    Yup folks there’s that open mindedness.

    perhaps we should all be closed minded and not read stella’s or lives for lies rants.

    Opposing viewpoints should be recognized for one to be properly informed or to understand where the other is coming from.
    But stella,Furtz,and lives for lies refuses to look at the video’s that well explains their close mindedness.

  35. Hungry for truth (AKA: lives for lies)
    quoted, “edudyorlik August 23, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    “open to all yes, but initially clearly focused around a group of like minded folks supporting each other in the face of unjust hiring practices at a Cornwall hospital”

    Hungry for truth (AKA:lives for lies) wrote, “Unfair Hiring Practices at the CCH was the clear objective of the like minded folks. But, time has seen the inclusion of many other unrelated issues.”

    yes, Hungry and the “gang of agitators” would like to keep us focused on Cornwall and ONE hospital but they don’t call the shots.

    Imagine that folks. A group of like minded peoples who find a place where they can gather to discuss and while they are chatting about things they realize, through others offering and sharing their stories of how they were affected by the same general concept of the French fact taking over in this country things end up expanding

    Linguistic Translation Service
    Languages Act of Canada
    Constitution Of Canada
    Bilingualism in Canada
    The French Language Service Act of Ontario
    Quebec’s English Laws
    Quebec’s Language Police
    Quebec’s Transfer Payments
    Separation Of Quebec
    Unfair Hiring Policies in Cornwall
    Unfair Hiring Policies in Canada
    Militia in Quebec
    Languages Apartheid
    Unfair use of Trillium Funds
    Lack of English construction signs on the TC
    Proposed Construction Bill 80

    Isn’t that wonderful. Then along comes this trouble making “agitator gang” who’s only goal in such a forum is to say black when everyone else say’s white. Or up when everyone else says down. Of course, it is VERY CLEAR that they want to be sure that “the word” doesn’t get out without some kind of challenge about what is truly going on in this country because people ARE STARTING to notice and see and listen and PAY ATTENTION.

    Just like this a-hole
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD1FiZjS95w

    Always pushing for MORE FRENCH EVERYWHERE MORE AND MORE…

    http://youtu.be/3kNcFyBofC4?t=18s
    So this gang of agitators is sure to “try” to say everything is just fine. Don’t worry, relax. Don’t pay any attention to all the French signs going up here and there. Oh and those huge Franco flags don’t worry about those either. No no, they are not to mark OUR FRENCH TERRITORY. just relax don’t pay no attention.

    Like the old line from Bourasa years ago. Don’t worry you English people take a Valium. Everything will be fine.

    Only thing is. The English have awakened now and you’re side stepping is NO LONGER WORKING. You’re “what’s that over there?” cr@p is no longer effective.

    Try as you may with all your doublespeak the genie is out of the bottle.

    Oh yeah and, remember. have yourself a “look to the near future” kinda day eh 🙂

  36. highlander
    August 25, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    “JUST ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG ,IT’S SIMPLE YOUR ONLY HUMAN”

    I wouldn’t hold my breath highlander. lol It will never happen. Been there, waited for that, left feeling somewhat superior and vindicated even without it.

    ~~~

    stellabystarlight
    August 25, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    “…the freedom fighters just don’t get it. You do not want to waste your time debating language issues which has been going on for 3 years now… ”

    If this is true, why are you still here all loud and proud. If it really has so little value to you, why involve yourself at all?

  37. ON August 25, 2013 at 4:44 pm
    stellanotsobright wrote, “yorlik I told you once and will tell you again….we don’t look at your videos……waste of time **smile**”

    Oh my, i am crushed. I sure hope you’re not planning on being a film critic any time soon.

    You do realize that, in order to HAVE ANY VALID OPINION at all you do have to watch THEM. Probably like Mr self important is doing right now so he can find something in one of them to contest. Which he can’t.

    How about this one…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E_BgxHZVFI
    Let’s have a listen to Meaghan tell us all about how “she only has a job in Toronto because she can speak French” AND how her father could not find work in OTTAWA because he couldn’t speak French.

    Lovely eh? Yet, in the lovely province of Quebec — bilingualism — IS NOT A REQUIREMENT AT ALL to get a job. That’s right. No need for “the other official language in that province” ONLY in the rest of Canada.

    Just gotta love the double standards and ethnocentric attitudes.

    Oh, i guess you musn’t let things like reality, practicality and common sense get in the way of your rose colored fantasy world right notsobright?

    Oh, and btw, you never did admit you were wrong when you posted this INCORRECT statement

    Stella wrote “HFTT: EXCELLENT!!!!! THE KING OF RANTS HAS BEEN PUT IN HIS PLACE ONCE AGAIN……….BRAVO MON AMI!!!!!”

    which really had NOTHING TO DO WITH ME (King of Rants) at all.

    But, i guess feelings of sorrow for doing something wrong are not something you are capable of, are they?

    Come to think of it, have you always been so cold to your fellow man? Or, are you simply like that with Anglo’s who stand up for the English language and the English culture in a country that has English as the common language?

  38. highlander August 25, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    I WON’T START CALLING YOU AKA King of Inaccuracies EVEN THOUGHT YOU HAVE EARNED THAT TITLE BECAUSE I THINK IT’S CHILDISH TO DO SO.

    HOW IS UTILIZING “LIVES FOR LIES” 5 times in the same post any less CHILDISH?

    “YOU SEE LIVES FOR LIES THE CHARTER GUARANTEE’ EQUAL SERVICES THROUGHT TRANSFER PAYMENTS ,BUT DOES NOT GUARANTEE INTERPROVCIAL SERVICES ,THAT IS GOVERNED BY CANADA HEALTH ACT.”

    Wrong again King of Inaccuracies. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a FEDERAL protection that guarantees access to all services across CANADA.

    Part III Section 36. 1,c of The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    ( c) providing essential public services of reasonable quality to all Canadians.

    If I fall sick in PEI as a Canadian I have access to reasonable quality Health Services.

    It’s my right from the Charter of Rights and Freedom AUTOMATICALLY.

  39. bella August 25, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    Worth repeating for all of you sleeping out there.

    “…the freedom fighters just don’t get it. You do not want to waste your time debating language issues which has been going on for 3 years now… ”

    If this is true, why are you still here all loud and proud. If it really has so little value to you, why involve yourself at all?

    Good question bella ….so why are they wasting their time on here ………oh perhaps to maintain their rights above others.

    If this medium was not having an impact on educating the public on our LANGUAGE APARTHEID do you honestly think they would be here?

  40. Interesting article in today’s Sun Media paper.

    Hai Xia Sun from BC has the Chinese Canadian National Council fighting for her because of how she was treated by a MacDonald restaurant establishment. She was sent away and told she didn’t understand English and they had other customers to serve.

    She wants a written apology from the franchise owner, the manager and wants it made out to all Canadians who aren’t native English speakers?

    This is just the beginning towards the end of the English’s self acclaimed sense of power in this country.

    On the other hand, in Spadina’s Chinatown in Toronto comes a different scenario. Anthony Furey, the author of this article, often went to Chinatown because he lives close by. Many times when he asked for assistance, the shop keeper didn’t understand him. Often he was left to himself when the son or grandson could not help. At times he was even smirked at.

    Then Anthony adds” Did I make a fuss?” “Did I even think to cry discrimination because I wasn’t served in English in Canada?”
    NO…..I JUST SUCKED IT UP!!!!!!!!!

    galganov and the freedom fighter gang should SUCK IT UP ALSO and leave the peace loving people alone.

    YEP……CANADA THE LAND OF THE FREE
    THE LAND OF LOVE, PEACE, AND PRIDE.

    AS CANADIANS, DON’T ALLOW A SMALL GROUP
    OF DISCONTENTED RADICAL ACTIVIST
    TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US.

  41. highlander August 25, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    “Spin it what you may YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN THE CANADA HEALTH ACT GUARANTEES INTERPROVINCIAL HEALTHCARE .”

    OK. KING OF INACCURACIES, LET’S START WITH THE BASICS.

    CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982
    1982, c. 11 (U.K.), Schedule B

    PART III
    CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS

    Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:

    Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms

    Part III Section 36. 1,C of The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    Equalization and regional disparities.

    ( c ) providing essential public services of reasonable quality to all Canadians.

    Part III Section 36.2 of The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

    Commitment respecting public services

    ( 2 ) Parliament and the government of Canada are committed to the principle of making equalization payments to ensure that provincial governments have sufficient revenues to provide reasonably comparable levels of public services at reasonably comparable levels of taxation.

    Canada Health Act
    R.S.C., 1985, c. C-6

    An Act relating to cash contributions by Canada and relating to criteria and conditions in respect of insured health services and extended health care services

    Canada Health Act

    The Canada Health Act (CHA or the Act) is Canada’s federal legislation for publicly funded health care insurance.
    The CHA establishes criteria and conditions related to insured health services and extended health care services that the provinces and territories must fulfill to receive the full federal
    cash contribution under the Canada Health Transfer (CHT).

    The aim of the CHA is to ensure that all eligible residents of Canada have reasonable access to insured health services on a prepaid basis, without direct charges at the point of service for such services.

    I hope King of Inaccuracies, that you will put this to rest. YOU ARE WRONG. This information is on the Government of Canada web site.

    THERE IS NO INACCARACIES IN MY CLAIM.

  42. @highlander THE KING OF {MODERATED}

    @Furtz…….the freedom fighters just don’t get it. You do not want to waste your time debating language issues which has been going on for 3 years now. You have indicated this many times……yet they continuously say you have Zero input………go figure. DUH!!!! HELLO???? lol

    Once again you omit part of the post to twist it around to suit yourself. @FURTZ…….GOT THAT? Furtz doesn’t debate he comes for the entertainment……as he said.

    highlander wrote: If this medium was not having an impact on educating the public on our LANGUAGE APARTHEID do you honestly think they would be here?

    You are really having an impact on the public and opening many eyes on your true colors and agenda…..especially when boasting about your leader galganov. Many got to know him when he ran for elections. The results proved just how many followers he had. Thanks to you guys many more are getting to know him and are not impressed……..THANK-YOU FOR HELPING US OUT.

    As for your question do you honestly think they would be here…….WOW THE WHOLE FIVE OF YOU That is very impressive and something to brag about.
    highlander writes:

  43. stellabystarlight
    August 26, 2013 at 5:20 am

    “galganov and the freedom fighter gang should SUCK IT UP ALSO and leave the peace loving people alone.”

    Yup there is the answer ,suck it up !

    So tell business owners to SUCK IT UP when municipal legislation does not allow their own choice of WHATEVER Language they want on THEIR own business signs .

    Now all you Quebecers that have religious symbols which are recognized and excepted through Canada ARE NOT ALLOWED …….NOW YOU HAVE TO SUCK IT UP! .

    BILL 101 AND NOW 14 which violates the charter of rights on many levels ……JUST SUCK IT UP !

    Quebec interprovincial labour restrictions to Ontario workers (note bill 80 ) …JUST SUCK IT UP !

    Have the french groups sucked it up?

    NO IN FACT THERE IS AN EVEN BIGGER PUSH FOR MORE FRENCH SERVICES IN ONTARIO AND THE REST OF CANADA “WHERE NUMBERS DO NOT WARRANT” AT THE COST OF 96% OF THE TAXPAYER’S ….
    WHY ARE THEY NOT JUST SUCKING IT UP!

    “YEP……CANADA THE LAND OF THE FREE
    THE LAND OF LOVE, PEACE, AND PRIDE.”

    CANADA IS NOT THE LAND OF THE FREE WHEN ONE PROVINCE VIOLATES THE FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS 2(A) AS WELL AS NUMEROUS OTHER CHARTER ISSUES.

    “AS CANADIANS, DON’T ALLOW A SMALL GROUP
    OF DISCONTENTED RADICAL ACTIVIST
    TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US.”

    {MODERATED} at it again how is a group asking for fairness and equality to do this?
    Or where you referring to your separatist friends ….oh that’s right never ever has their been a bad word about the separatists from your group ……..that should get a few out there wondering whats that about!

  44. Hungry for the Truth….
    August 26, 2013 at 6:26 am

    JUST ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG ,IT’S SIMPLE YOUR ONLY HUMAN”
    bella is right

    “I wouldn’t hold my breath highlander. lol It will never happen. Been there, waited for that, left feeling somewhat superior and vindicated even without it.”

    The charter guarantee’s Part III Section 36. 1,C of The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    Equalization and regional disparities.

    There is no such guarantee stating interprovicial health services in the charter as you have stated .
    That legislation and READ the header “Equalization and regional disparities”
    Does not denote that guarantee of interprovincial services ,but the Canada health act does .

    You can copy and past the charter all you want it does not state that it guarantee’s interprovincial health services.

    Spin it what you may …but please show the readers where it guarantees in the charter interprovincial health services……we readers will be waiting …….

    Till then YOU REMAIN WRONG ! You are living up to your monikers (lives for lies).

    Perhaps we could ask our fair moderator on the subject if he see’s within that charter section of which you provided, information guaranteeing interprovincial health coverage?

    What do you think Jamie ?

    Perhaps other viewers could provide their input in how they see it !

    oh this warrants repeating and no comments coming from lives for lies on this:

    ” I have it from a reliable source a manager at the Ottawa Heart institute that 20 % of their patients come from Quebec.

    Quebec has different billing ratio’s so often surgeries or procedures Quebec only reimburses at 75-80 % of Ontario’s costs leaving Ontario’s taxpayers paying the rest.”

    This costs Ontario taxpayers many millions and burdens our health care system further and this financial loss results cutbacks and loss of services..

  45. stellabystarlight
    August 26, 2013 at 8:00 am

    “Once again you omit part of the post to twist it around to suit yourself. @FURTZ…….GOT THAT? Furtz doesn’t debate he comes for the entertainment……as he said. ”

    And what is it that you do? What does stella add to the conversation?

  46. bella
    August 26, 2013 at 9:41 am

    “And what is it that you do? What does stella add to the conversation?”

    well said bella

    Propaganda is the answer …

  47. Jamie

    Why is my post not allowed to go through?
    What do I need to do for it to be allowed?
    Is there something offensive?

    Thank-You

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