Discrimination
Discrimination. The big D word. A word most readily used by many though rarely meritable in its’ use. In our contemporary world of political correctness, discrimination is one of many ‘buzzwords’ that forms a politicians’ lexicon of verbal spaghetti. Political figures love to throw around the idea that one group of people are often discriminated against by another group of people or even by a nation’s laws. It is a fantastic vote grabber for those most instrumental in the art of politics. The truth however, in this day and age, is that rarely are modern-day laws discriminatory in their practice, right?
Wrong!
Have you ever heard of the concepts of affirmative action or what we like to call employment equity in Canada? These are concepts that were instituted into Canadian law to help level the playing field for those who have traditionally suffered the ill consequences of discrimination; especially in the job market. Under the Constitution Act of 1982, containing the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms; equity legislation is detailed therein. The Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) is enforced by the Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC) and it is this commission that deals with whether or not discrimination has taken place in the workplace.
The following details the issue of Prohibited Grounds of Discrimination in Canada: (Belcourt, Bohlander, & Snell, Managing Human Resources, 5th Canadian Edition, 2008).
Race or colour
Religion
Physical or mental disability
Dependence on alcohol or drugs
Age
Sex
Marital status
Family status
Sexual orientation
National or ethnic origin (including linguistic background)
Ancestry of place of origin
Language
Social Condition or origin
Source of income
Assignment, attachment or seizure of pay
Based on association
Political belief
Record of criminal conviction
Pardoned conviction
While appearing like a fair and equitable approach to the issue of fairness in hiring practices; employment equity actually creates the framework for unfair hiring criteria – whereby the best qualified person may be the most successful candidate but may not be chosen due to government imposed employment equity legislation. Case-in-point; consider the possibility of two highly qualified candidates applying for the same government or private sector industry, job. One candidate, a qualified counselor who, as a child, was raised in the atmosphere of a same sex marriage; understands the very real social challenges faced by his/her same sex parents. One could surmise that not only is this individual qualified as a counselor; but has the added experience of being raised in a non-traditional family setting, outside of the traditional nuclear family. The other candidate is also a highly qualified counselor but is a homosexual. By the very definition and reasoning for employment equity, chances are that the successful candidate will be chosen due to his/her sexuality and not necessarily for his/her skills.
Another scenario if you will. Imagine an Aboriginal couple fostering a non-Aboriginal child who is raised and immersed in Aboriginal culture. He/she has a university/college education associated with his/her chosen field; speaks an Aboriginal language, is well-versed in the culture and customs associated with the First Nation and has all the credentials required of someone who could work for a government or non-government Aboriginal organization. The other candidate also has some or most of these qualifications but has one added qualification. Their ethnicity or race is of a First Nation. Once again, by the very definition and reasoning for employment equity, chances are that the successful candidate will be chosen due to his/her ethnicity or race and not necessarily for his/her skills.
Sound like rare or improbable cases and scenarios to you? I can attest that they’re not. They’re increasingly happening everyday in Canada and Human Resources professionals have had to contend with the issue of unfair hiring criteria that these laws have created since at least 1995 with the Employment Equity Act.
If you think at this point that our Canadian employment laws are unfair and unjustified then I have even more bad news for you. Consider the above information I’ve provided about Employment Equity. Add to this the increasingly unfair bilingual language requirements as well and you can see where things are headed. A politically correct society where in the quest for fairness we’ve permitted a very unfair system to flourish unchallenged by the people themselves. We need to ask ourselves if Canada’s employment and language laws are really a reflection of what we encompass and value as a society or if our various levels of government are attempting through social engineering, to shape and mould the people’s consciousness to the system itself. In other words, do the people work for the system or should the system work for the people?
Ever heard of the concept of a ‘bona fide occupational qualification’? Believe it or not, this concept currently exists in Canada and it allows for discrimination in hiring! That’s right folks. You read that correctly. In the very ‘Act’, the Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) whose existence is to prohibit discriminatory hiring practices there exists government-sponsored discriminatory hiring! As Belcourt et al. reports (2008):
The act applies to all federal government departments and agencies, to Crown corporations, and to other businesses and industries under federal jurisdiction, such as banks, airlines, railway companies, and insurance and communications companies. For those areas not under federal jurisdiction, protection is available under provincial human rights laws. Provincial laws, although very similar to federal ones, do differ from province to province. Every province and territory has a human rights act (or code), and each has jurisdiction prohibiting discrimination in the workplace. The prohibited grounds of discrimination in employment include race, religion, sex, age, national or ethnic origin, physical handicap, and marital status…Employers are permitted to discriminate if employment preferences are based on a bona fide occupational qualifications (BFOQ) or BFOR (bona fide occupational requirement). A BFOQ is justified if the employer can establish necessity for business operations. In other words, differential treatment is not discrimination if there is a justifiable reason. (106)
This sounds an awful lot like Orwell’s, Animal Farm, where Commandment #7 which originally stated that:
“All animals are equal”
Was eventually changed to,
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”
Is this the kind of Canada we want to live and work in? Surely the ideology of an individual’s rights should trump group rights in all respects. Should it not? Otherwise, we need to ask ourselves if we truly live in a democracy where all citizens enjoy the same rights and privileges as all others. As of this writing, the majority of our citizenry cannot work for their civil service or hold the highest office of the land due to nothing more than a lack of knowledge of one of Canada’s minority languages.
Please keep in mind that,
“All Canadians are equal, but some Canadians are more equal than others”
Cory Cameron
Timmins, On
Sunday August 25, 2013
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highlander wrote, “Stella like the size of the fish your lenths of time get longer and longer it has been 2 1/2 years ,but the truth means nothing to you!”
“increasing the numbers or adding to whatever tactic – IS –
my dear friend highlander, the same type of tactic the French powers that be have been using for decades now.
If they add a new French friendly law and no one complains or calls them on it, they then increase its “french friendliness” If they put French first on the Prime Ministers private plane and SOMEONE DOES complain they pretend the etiquette outlining the proper way to do this doesn’t exist to just to see if there will be any push back to that.
Hungry for lies AKA: lives for wrote,
“Why is this claim of a breach of Charter Right any different than an English speaking Canadian that complains about being served in French. Files a Complaint with the Language Commissionaire which you have admitted, cost tax payers a ridiculous amount of money. How is that any different than a French speaking Canadian Right to equal protection to be served in the language of his choice?
BECAUSE THESE TWO “LANGUAGE ISSUES WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE COUNTRY OF CANADA ARE SIMPLY NOT DIRECTLY COMPARABLE.”
One is considered the main language of the the majority population in CANADA (THE COUNTRY) and the other is considered a local “province of Quebec language.” However, the French are pushing to change this “reality” to be some thing MUCH more than it was ever intended to be and they are using VERY cleaver BUT unethical, immoral and downright — in some cases – illegal tactics to do so.
“The driver not saying good morning and bonjour was also a terrible sin with him.”
Is that the same as a Postal worker saying Bonjour to an English Speaking Canadian?
Not comparable for the same reasons I outline above. FRENCH CANNOT be compared to English on a “Canada wide” basis. IS SIMPLY is not COMPARIBLE.
As the old saying goes, it’s like “trying” to compare apples and oranges.
“How do we know what is necessary? All we get is provide more French, it is not like the numbers have changed to show a need.”
Because the Charter is about equality. Not about numbers but humans. French Canadians living in a Province that has English as it’s Official de facto Language. Franco-Ontarian’s being turned away from jobs if they don’t speak English.
All this talk about equality and “official languages IN CANADA” and so on. Please take these efforts to the French powers that be in Quebec. They KNOW NOTHING of Quality and fairness there and could use some of this chatter.
“It is not like French people are dying in the streets because they could not take a bus to the right location for le McDonalds.”
If you consider that your statement is a fair assessment of Ontario’s French minority, would the same statement be a fair assessment of Quebec’s English minority be applicable also?
It is not like English people are dying in the streets because they could not take a bus to the right location for le McDonalds.
OMG
AGAIN, TOTALLY NOT COMPARABLE> QUEBEC IS A PROVINCE. You said that yourself. IT IS NOT THE COUNTRY. IT IS A PROVINCE WITHIN A majority Anglophone country.
If your argument is about cost to service the minority’s linguistic rights why should Quebec be expected to provide English Services, if Ontario should not have to provide French Services based on cost.
Please understand, THE ENGLISH HAVE few to NO minority rights in Quebec can’t you UNDERSTAND THAT?
The French powers that be have taken over and they WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE in that province. So, once again these things are NOT COMPARABLE.
Highlander September 17, 2013 at 10:55 am
“The government set forth legislation and there was no measured approach for implementation!”
What? You have always claimed that there was a measuring stick. You have numerously posted that “STATISTIC CANADA” was the right tool to measure, “REPRESENTATION BY POPULATION” Now you say there is no measured approach.????
“Governments should have an implementation process (guildlines ) for government entities and as for most government entities the FLSA has been abused!”
You said they have a system? Statistic Canada was fine is what you wrote. It was adequate and equitable to determine “REPRESENTATION BY POPULATION.”
“Ask yourself why 65% of Ontario government employees REQUIRED to be bilingual to serve 4% of the population?”
It makes no sense at all. Your measuring stick is broken.
“This is discrimination based on liguistic ability for the remaining 96%(well in most democracies BUT NOT CANADA).”
The discrimination is not based on Linguistic abilities. Your measuring stick is broken.
And the unfair Hiring Practices have been drafted using the broken measuring stick.
ACTUAL USAGE VS EXPECTED DEMOGRAPHERS!!!!
@ edudyorlik/Kilroy. Do you get p!ssed off when you see the French language print in your Cornflakes box every morning? Do you go to sleep every night and have bad dreams about marauding Francophones?
There is help if you seek it.
ON September 17, 2013 at 5:03 pm Furtz inquired
“@ edudyorlik/Kilroy. Do you get p!ssed off when you see the French language print in your Cornflakes box every morning? Do you go to sleep every night and have bad dreams about marauding Francophones?”
I begin by saying, even though I direct my response to you Furtz, I really could care less if you read this or not, as you and your agitator gang often claim you don’t.
I simply want it to be on record for ANYONE to read because it is, I believe, what many English people felt (and now feel) about this situation.
Like i said before. Back when all these “let’s be accommodating to the French” things were being suggested and offered to appease the French (shh, even though they were the LOSERS for the rights to have such things), i was ALL IN FAVOR of them.
I believed it was a good for my government to act in such a compassionate noble way.
Even going back historically, I would say that even though I completely understand the mentality of the era (1700’s) where by victors treated the losers in certain negative ways which was not good, I would also say I believe it was right to later make amends for some of the those not so nice things that happened after the British won and conquered the French and had Canada signed over to them by the reigning powers in France as France abandoned Canada and all the French peasants in it.
I felt a (if I may be so honest to say) “real sense of pride” in knowing that the VICTORIOUS ENGLISH were actually that generous about all these things. After all, historically speaking I doubt you could find many situations where the victorious side would even begin to offer such things to the losers.
But, the ENGLISH/BRITISH DID.
My government suggested we be gracious in our victory I identified with that sense of nobility and I believed in what were being fed by our government with regard to working together as a team, side by side… Our two great cultures (not nations, as I don’t believe in such a thing as a nation within a nation).
I truly believed that it was good that the English put aside the concept that they were the victors and the French lost the rights to this country. I believed it was right that the English did all the things they did to provide assistance to the French in order to make them feel a part of this country.
Whether you and “the agitator gang” wish to acknowledge it or not, The FACTS ARE, the facts…
The English — DID NOT HAVE TO — accommodate and offer such things. They could have resisted and pushed back as the French were a tiny group back in those days.
Things sure would be different today.
But, GUESS WHAT? They didn’t push back. They took the high road.
As a matter of fact they kept trying to be accommodating to the “French fact” in this country. Frankly, despite the total disrespect the French powers that be are showing to the Canadian citizens living in that province and the disrespect they are showing to the Canadian flag and other things, the Anglophone majority — ARE STILL — to this very day – ALLOWING major accommodations to the French.
It’s historically factual that the winning side would have to be the side to “accept” any suggestion that French be on those packages and accept that French be on the stamps, and the money and that French be accepted in the parliament etc etc…
The English (winning side) DID ALL OF THAT. They accepted all of these things in the name of “trying to live together.”
So, considering I (and probably the majority of Anglophone Canadians) felt good about being fair and trying to accommodate and “allowing” all the things that were allowed, I do so hope that it would not be too much of a surprise to you (well maybe not — you — but, to most any sane person) to see how there could be a change in all those “good feelings” when we start to take a look at what the French fact have done with all that good will and accommodating which was presented to them by the English over MANY MANY years.
Things like…
A spoilt brat province filled with brainwashed and programmed French folks who believe they were actually entitled to all those things and don’t believe (or could care less) that those things were done in the spirit of good will and an attempt at “getting along and living together in peace and harmony”
Things like…
A spoilt group of brainwashed programmed French folks who have taken the concept of nobility and the noble acts which were bestowed upon them and turned around, basically spitting on those acts more than once and in more ways that one also, while at the same time demanding MORE, AND MORE AND MORE.
http://youtu.be/3kNcFyBofC4?t=18s
Things like…
A spoilt group of brainwashed programmed French folk who have proverbially stabbed the English in the back while the English had their back turned in order to grab the next gracious thing from the shelf that they were about to offer the French fact.
Seriously, tell me…
How many countries do you know would allow such tyrants in (a provincial type in a conceptual way) of their country to blatantly remove the flag of the main or mother country in which they are located and say, the following …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JaKTF5Eu3g&hd=1
WHILE at the same time accepting billions in transfer payments and other monies from those host country? I would venture a guess — NONE.
What the French are doing is BLATENTYLY laughing at the rest of Canada and getting away with it. They are treating the province of Quebec as if it were a country and yet accepting billions in payments from the ROC that typically GO TO PROVINCES ONLY.
Let’s just say if the French were doing these kinds of things to the French, it would have been a war a long time ago.
So, the answer to your question is, no it didn’t bother me AT ONE TIME.
There was once a time when I was proud that my government pushed the majority of Anglophone Canadians to do things like put French on ALL packaging, and put French on the Stamps, and put French on the money, and allow French in the parliament.
I even applauded when they put in place the concept that the Federal government was going to provide French services to the French in their language.
Oh, and yes, I was out with my candle in 1995 marching in the cold night saying keep Quebec and Canada together.
But, NOW… Now that I have witnessed how the French return the graciousness and how they handle the concept of non-accommodation and how the French ban the English language in their so called, “country. SO NOW… I would have to say yes, with legitimate reason I do NOW get p!ssed off. It wasn’t always this way as I pointed out BUT…
Now that I have seen the French treat my fellow Canadians citizens like dirt in that so called “country / province” (BTW, I have MANY direct personal experiences with being treated like cr@p by my so called “fellow French Canadian comrades”).
And, NOW… That I have witnessed the French moving in to try to control the language issue in my own ONTARIO province, with French ONLY clinics and hospitals, and French dominant universities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD-mHpMpBSw&hd=1
IT IS VERY CLEAR to me (and should also now be VERY clear to all Anglophone people in this country…) That the French powers that be want nothing to do with the English and at the same time want nothing less than to re-conquer Canada long after the battle that saw them loose it originally back in 1752.
And, they are attempting to accomplish this feat in one of theeeee most cunning and sly ways one could ever imagine this type of venture being accomplished. A way that does not see the need for a military style battles, nor the need for a single shot to be fired for that matter. Oh no… This coup is being accomplished with the aid of a former Prime Minister, the aggressiveness of the French, and the downright complacency and apathy of the English fact in this country.
And, I offer a friendly warning that apathetic English fact — RIGHT NOW.
If they DO NOT begin to push back
— in A BIG WAY —
against this slow but VERY incessant methodical chipping away at your unilingual Anglophone rights, your jobs, the highest positions (judges, lawyers, Dr’s politicians etc etc), and if you continue to allow this French fact to make inroads the way they are doing right now in this country, it WILL NOT BE TOO MUCH LONGER before it is a done deal.
PS:
Sorry for the length of this post admin, but, I am sure you can understand the passion involved in this case, meant it was sorta necessary. I so envy those who can say the same thing in fewer words but, I was not bestowed with that talent. I do however, (if I may be so bold to say so myself) have other talents that make up for it 🙂
Oh and lastly… Furtz. Please share you thoughts on how this CANADIAN public servant acting here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GUkNVjM4Gc&hd=1
A little light hearted fun which includes an old comical tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-mdNPlKKsg&hd=1
It probably bothers him less then when you see the ravings of he good pastor.
Perhaps you could car pool.
HFTT, I am more interested in Ontario than Quebec, although English speakers and minorities are a concern.
You can not compare a private business service with federal services, although if the trend of removing Charter Rights for citizens continues we will need to be all things to all people all the time.
Currently Ontario requires one French course (30 courses for grade 12 diploma) during high school, yet more jobs are listing bilingual. The census data is not showing any explosion of bilingual numbers, so where do the workers come from? Possibly Quebec because of the 42% bilingual population. Where do the Ontario kids go to work?
New Brunswick still has 2/3 of the population English, where do those kids go? We are losing young people and professionals to care for our own families and communities, because of language. Because of forcing language upon people who for decades show their interest and actual need for not learning more than a few basic sentences. As the joke goes marriage is the leading cause of divorce, well government needs to be less intrusive.
@ edudyorlik. People generally skip over long winded posts, especially when they repeat the same ideas over and over.
How about this Furtz.
After how the French powers that be have shown how little they respect everything English and everything done to try to appease and accommodate them, and after holding two referendums to rid themselves of les moudit Anglais (a gesture that if done in reverse would NOT have been taken very lightly) i say in light of all this, the French powers that be DO NOT deserve to have been given the privilege to have French anywhere in this country which, in case you “skipped over”” that article because it was too long, was signed over to BRITISH by France after France lost the rights to this land and abandoned Canada and the French peasants that were still here in 1759.
And on that note, i wish you a , “stay ignorant as it becomes you” kinda day” eh 🙂
Furtz, this will be a short winded post on the same subject of proper placement. Quebec is not showing proper dignity for the Canadian flag in this video, where is Heritage Canada on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JaKTF5Eu3g&hd=1
Position of honour
Due consideration should be given to flag etiquette and precedence whenever the National Flag of Canada or other sovereign national flags or provincial/territorial flags are displayed.
The location of the position of honour depends on the number of flags flown and the chosen configuration. When two flags (or more than three flags) are displayed, the position of honour is furthest to the left (to an observer facing the display). When three flags are flown, the position of honour is in the centre
@ Eric. You should consider yourself really fortunate that you have so few problems that you can spent time fretting about the positions of flags or wording on bilingual signs. I’m sure that about 90% of our planet’s population would gladly trade their problems for yours.
@yorlik Your post September 17, 2013 at 11:07 pm just about ripped my heart out….I can’t stop crying.
What the English went through is horrible. How anyone can take advantage of the kind heartedness of the English people is incomprehensible. No wonder the freedom gang are so distraught.
A few more posts like the 11:07 PM will almost have me convinced the English were taken advantage of by the French. Shame on them **SMILE**
Don’t forget. A reminder to the agitator gang. The BIG ANTI ENGLISH rally is happening tonight. Grab all your sep friends and Anti English relatives and head on down.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1006353_1418052791741087_1001148841_n.jpg
It’s gonna be so fun. Imagine that, a gathering of “HATERS” or maybe better said, a gather of PURE LAINE(S).
Oh, how sad… It reminds me of those history films watching the Nazi’s all milling around deciding on how they are going to eliminate and destroy all but their own and achieve a “PURE race.”
Hey, i wonder if they will be doing the chicken dance?
How exciting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg2S-dleITk&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdFIXsrjkXI&hd=1
Have fun Stella 😉
Eric September 18, 2013 at 6:54 am
“HFTT, I am more interested in Ontario than Quebec, although English speakers and minorities are a concern.”
Ontario’s minority is French. Should we be concerned?
“You can not compare a private business service with federal services, although if the trend of removing Charter Rights for citizens continues we will need to be all things to all people
all the time.”
Who’s Charter Right is being removed? When I wrote Franco-Ontarian’s are being turned away from jobs if they don’t speak English also include Public Sector Jobs. In Ontario if you are French and do not speak English you do not qualify for Public Sector Jobs.
“We are losing young people and professionals to care for our own families and communities, because of language.”
If you are referring to FLSA as the cause for loosing young people and professionals that would not be accurate in my opinion. The loss is caused by the unrealistic broken measuring
tool that creates discrimination and unfairness. The problem is not the requirement of offering Bilingual Services, the problem is how that NEED is measured. It is a reality that Bilingual Services are NEEDED. HOW MUCH? FOR HOW MANY? WHEN? WHAT TIME?
“Because of forcing language upon people who for decades show their interest and actual need for not learning more than a few basic sentences.”
Not all French Canadians are forced to speak French. Not all English Canadians are forced to speak English. The language you inherit from your English or French parents are not forced upon you. They are given to you. From that point forward chances are you will learn your parents mother tongue. Then what do you do. Should you be faulted?
Today in Canada we will welcome over 1050 new Canadians. Many will be born to English speaking parents others to French speaking. 385,000 new Canadians was born in 2011-2012.
New Brunswick 7,313 Quebec 88,500 Ontario 141,799.
What is the answer? Should we tell parents in Quebec or Ontario or New Brunswick or in any Province what language their child will speak? Would that be intrusive?
Reality is Reality. It will not go away because we disagree with it. There will continue to be French babies, English babies, that will grow to be productive members of Society. And they will expect to be treated fairly and equally in our great Canada.
ON September 18, 2013 at 11:50 am Furtz wrote,
“@ Eric. You should consider yourself really fortunate that you have so few problems that you can spent time fretting about the positions of flags or wording on bilingual signs. I’m sure that about 90% of our planet’s population would gladly trade their problems for yours.”
Where were you when the French were whining and wanting French on the Corn Flakes box? I am pretty sure there was lots going on then also that 98% of the world was fretting about but the French were still whining about not enough French and no French on their morning cereal box.
Oh, that reminds me… The concept of “lame” just popped into my head while writing to you Furtz. I wonder why that is ?
Anyhow, here is a lame one for ya. And it’s clean so you can tell the grand kids 🙂 (that’s if they bother to come visit such a crotchety old fart)
I called the Quebec Kelloggs Corn flakes office the other day. The man answered and said, bonjour “cest-real.” Wha ha ha ha ha.. Oh my i am so sorry to ya’ll i just couldn’t help myself.
Furtz
September 18, 2013 at 11:50 am
@ Eric. You should consider yourself really fortunate that you have so few problems that you can spent time fretting about the positions of flags or wording on bilingual signs.
So why bother making regulations and laws, it is a wild west free for all then.
HFTT, this is all interconnected and has been since the Order of Jacques Cartier started up. Carefully placed domino’s, but is it really as simple as one hospital administration Misinterpreting laws, by-laws, regulations and policy?
The force comes in as soon a requirement is dreamed up and a government department is started. They need to show what a great job they are doing so create answers to unknown problems, rinse then repeat. A matrix and checklists in government is an issue all by its self.
Eric September 18, 2013 at 2:22 pm
“HFTT, this is all interconnected and has been since the Order of Jacques Cartier started up. Carefully placed domino’s, but is it really as simple as one hospital administration Misinterpreting laws, by-laws, regulations and policy?”
Show me where in the FLSA does it tell local administration HOW MANY BILINGUAL STAFF they will required to be in compliance with the ACT.
Who has determined that all staff at CCH has to be 100% bilingual?
Which formula have they used to justify the need?
“The force comes in as soon a requirement is dreamed up and a government department is started.”
Usually the Government doesn’t dream up requirements they address legitimate concerns and then develop a response to a viable need.
@ edudyorlik. “cest-real” Very good! Nice to see that at least one freedom fighter maintains a sense of humour. For a “crotchety old fart”, I do have lots of fun. My grand daughter seems to like me and I still get out on my Ninja on nice days like today. Life is grand! But it’s also short, so I don’t spend much time being p!ssed off at asinine stuff like which flag flies the highest or which language appears on the left or right on a bilingual sign. At this stage of life, I’m delighted to just be able to clearly see and read those offensive (to you) signs.
Even with all its flaws, you must admit that Canada is a freakin’ paradise compared to most of the world.
Fight on!
edudyorlik September 18, 2013 at 12:59 pm
“Oh, how sad… It reminds me of those history films watching the Nazi’s all milling around deciding on how they are going to eliminate and destroy all but their own and achieve a “PURE race.”
FRENCH is a pure race that have just as much Right of existence in your french hating world. Look at yourself in the mirror before calling others HATERS.
Your statements doesn’t portray you as a lover of French Rights.
I told you before you should be forced to turn in your CANADIAN passport for all this HATE propaganda you spew.
“Brilliantly put Eric. Worth repeating… Cheers mate…
“The force comes in as soon a requirement is dreamed up and a government department is started. They need to show what a great job they are doing so create answers to unknown problems, rinse then repeat. A matrix and checklists in government is an issue all by its self.”
We must remember that MUCH OF this was instituted some times ago and took years to mature but not that it has made all those steps the speed and drive is exponentially increasing.
Mr Admin,
You can post this or delete as you choose.
I’m not one to complain and cry wolf,
but Enough is Enough……
When are you going to address EDUDYORLIK’S HATE propaganda. This has gone beyond DEBATE.
I understand that it can be time consuming having to read through such lengthy posts. But really. There is not one post in the past week or so that has not contained some form of HATE message and insult to someone in this forum.
I’ve seen you post numerous times to debate the issue not the person. He has crossed to many lines for me to find this as
RESPECTFUL FREEDOM OF EXPRESION. THIS IS HATE PROPAGANDA.
Thank-You for your time.
HFTT if you or anyone see a post you feel is inappropriate please email your complaint to info@cornwallfreenews.com
Thanks
I resent your claim and I DO NOT promoted HATE and have not spoken HATEFULLY nor can anything I present be considered HATEFUL.
YOU ARE the one crossing the line Hungry for lies AKA: truth.
The only mention of “the word” HATE was when i referred to the
planned “gathering of “HATERS” or maybe better said, a gathering of PURE LAINE(S)” in Montreal who admittedly are THE ONES WHO REALLY DO HATE. They HATE the fact that English is being used i their pristine French “COUNTRY”
What it really comes down to is that they actually hate the fact that the English language (heaven forbid) is used in CANADA a country that has the English language as the common language of this GREAT COUNTRY within which there are many who despise the English, the English culture and as you can see in MANY news reports that show how they treat those who speak English, they ALSO HATE HE ENGLISH people. So, if it is anyone who should be scolded for treating people badly and or using “hate propaganda” IT IS NOT ME.
Beyond that, the only time i can think of EVER is my most recent reference to Furtz as a “crotchety old fart” and, he seemed to take it in jest but, that being said i do apologize `to Furtz`not YOU for that
BTW, standing up for the English language and the English culture is all i am doing and it`s about time ALL ANGLOPHONES DO IT.
Using news clips to expose those who treat the English Canadian people like leapers and those who act against Canada by either stepping on or removing this countries flag from legislative buildings is NOT HATE propaganda.
As a matter of fact, it clearly exposes “the real haters”
Haters of the English language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hKXw24la-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5EYxb9K6oM
Haters of the Canadian flag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBz6fce9Sw8
Haters of visible minorities also considering Quebecs new `values charter`and how unconstitutional THAT IS
http://youtu.be/k3CMpi8TxCU?t=3m45s
It never seems to end with them…
The intolerance for ANYTHING ENGLISH from that province is legendary so if you wish to speak about HATE mr. hungry i would suggest you begin in Quebec and with your gang of agitators first.
@ Hungry. Don’t be too offended by the comments of Kilroy or any other freedom fighter. It’s what they do, and it provides endless entertainment. I’ve been called all kinds of names by these clowns, and every time, it just plants a big grin on my mug. The FLA movement is so distracted and sidetracked that they don’t know whether to poop or wind their watches. In the meantime, it’s almost like playing these fish like fish. If you’re into fishing, it’s fun, and you don’t even need a boat!
http://youtu.be/k3CMpi8TxCU?t=3m45s
Hey Hungry, why don’t you comment about what the people in this video are saying happened to them in Quebec. Surely they have no reason to be lying about what they are saying. The woman who was punched by the STO worker. Doesn’t that stem from hatred. And, Mr de bellefeuille (spelling?) according to the people in Quebec COULD NOT BE a Quebecer because he was not white. Or the man who’s daughter was having a seizure and was told by the ambulance attendant that he MUST SPEAK FRENCH to him at a time when his daughter could be dying.
Tell me about those people and how these things are not hateful and how MANY things that are going on in that “province” don’t border on hate crimes against ENGLISH people.
Surely if these things were happening against ethnic groups it would be considered hate crimes. How come you NEVER speak of these transgressions??
Let’s hear it Hungry. c’mon… Any compassion for how these law abiding Canadian citizens are being treated (mistreated) in their own country?
NOT ONE WORD.
That tells everyone where you’re coming from.
there is nothing wrong with standing up for the English people (in Quebec) the English culture and the English language.
Mr. admin. AND EVERYONE…
Me thinks Mr. Hungry for truth is spouting false and untruthful accusations intended to harm my character.
I decided to check now that I had more available time and …
Re: Your completely Mr. Hungry.
ON September 18, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Hungry for the Truth…. wrote,
“Mr Admin, There is not one post in the past week or so that has not contained some form of HATE message and insult to someone in this forum.”
You should be careful with phrases like “there is not one” post…
PROOF… check for yourself… My so called posts for the past week… Which is the time frame you bring into question WITH YOUR BLATENT LIES.
According to you, “NOT ONE POST for the past week ending when you posted on Sept 18 2013 means that would involve my posts starting on Sept 11th 2013
NOT ONE POST EH ?????
Let’s see here… My posts “for the past week or so”
edudyorlik September 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just calling you out on your previous lies
edudyorlik September 11, 2013 at 6:14 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 11, 2013 at 11:29 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 12, 2013 at 11:12 am
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just calling you on your previous lies
edudyorlik September 12, 2013 at 11:20 am
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 12, 2013 at 12:14 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just praise for highlander, defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA and my famous poem.
edudyorlik September 12, 2013 at 2:05 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 12, 2013 at 3:35 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 12, 2013 at 4:40 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just calling you on your previous lies
edudyorlik September 13, 2013 at 8:10 am
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just an apology for using the wrong link which you fancifully turned into it seeming as if I admitted I was wrong about the CORE of your claim which I WAS NOT WRONG. Those sites were not all 100% bilingual.
edudyorlik September 13, 2013 at 3:00 pm
A couple of snide remarks (which I am sure you will label as insulting but are only just snide remarks) after you twisted my apology for using the wrong link into my you belief that i was apologizing for being wrong about the sites being 100% bilingual which they were not all 100% bilingual so I was not wrong. But, still no hate.
edudyorlik September 14, 2013 at 11:45 am
Praise for one of Cory’s posts then a great post by me (if I do say so myself) about how the English have gave the French practically everything they asked for only to be spit on by the French and how it hurts me to have seen the French take advantage way they did. But, still no hate or insult.
edudyorlik September 14, 2013 at 12:06 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 14, 2013 at 6:04 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a bringing to light of how the French powers that be in Quebec make use of doublespeak quite often and a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 15, 2013 at 1:27 am
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 15, 2013 at 2:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GUkNVjM4Gc&hd=1
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a link demonstrating an example of the type of disdain many the French people in Quebec have for their fellow Canadians who’s only fault is that they speak the main common language of the country they are BOTH IN — ENGLISH —
edudyorlik September 15, 2013 at 2:17 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a challenge for one of the agitator gang to step up to the plate and defend the actions of that French public servant bus driver and how she treated that VERY POLITE English lady simply asking her a question in the main common language (ENGLISH) of the country they are both in.
edudyorlik September 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a challenge for one of the agitator gang to step up to the plate and defend her previous statements
edudyorlik September 15, 2013 at 10:53 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 15, 2013 at 11:24 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate but a snide remark you will likely label as insulting but it’s really just a snide remark which is no worse than many I have had hurled at me. PLUS a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 16, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Defending bella but STILL NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 16, 2013 at 4:00 pm
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 16, 2013 at 8:31 pm
A challenge to you and the rest of the agitator gang to step up and “try” to explain or defend the mistreatment of the English people in the “province of Quebec CANADA but still NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just MORE defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 16, 2013 at 9:29 pm
praise for my pal bella NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult. Just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
edudyorlik September 17, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Calling out the agitator gang for speaking derogatorily about bella in French which is downright rude. But, NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult.
edudyorlik September 17, 2013 at 2:35 pm
highlighting a tactic used by the French but NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult.
edudyorlik September 17, 2013 at 3:08 pm
A great post (if I do say so myself) attempting to help HUNGRY realize that THESE TWO “LANGUAGE ISSUES WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE COUNTRY OF CANADA ARE SIMPLY NOT DIRECTLY COMPARABLE.” But, still no hate or insult.
edudyorlik September 17, 2013 at 11:07 pm
A run down of how the English have been giving and giving and giving over the years only to have the French take advantage of and abuse the kindness of the English. Then a challenge to one for the agitator gang to once again defend the actions of the rude public servant bus driver.
edudyorlik September 17, 2013 at 11:19 pm
A little light hearted fun which includes an old comical tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-mdNPlKKsg&hd=1
edudyorlik September 18, 2013 at 8:36 am
a response to Furtz – No hate or insult.
edudyorlik September 18, 2013 at 12:59 pm
A call to all the French who hate English in Montreal to obey the official call by their own original organizing faction.
Edudyorlik September 18, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Praising a post by Eric “Brilliantly put Eric. Worth repeating… Cheers mate…
And then we finally come to the ONE AND ONLY POST that could be said to contain two not so nice words. Once of which was lame, which I wouldn’t consider the use of the term lame to be hateful or massively insulting by ANY STRETCH of the imagination.
edudyorlik September 18, 2013 at 1:08 pm
And, the phrase “crochity old fart” which Furtz seemed to take in gist but none the less I admitted that my musingly referring to Furtz in that way was a tad unkind and I apologized for it BUT STILL NOT ONE HINT OF HATE and ONLY this tiny example (if you want to call it that) of insult which again, I apologized for
SO… your accusation was COMPLETELY FALSE AND UNTRUE
Now, I am not sure if calling someone out for being a liar can be considered an insult, especially when it is evident that they did lie so, you’ll have to take this in whichever way you choose because THE FACT IS … I HAVE PROVEN (and shown everyone) that this accusing post of yours
“There is not one post in the past week or so that has not contained some form of HATE message and insult to someone in this forum.”
Is nothing but a LIE. A lie that was obviously designed to erroneously call my character into question and frankly Mr. so called, hungry for truth it will take a much better person than you to do that.
And on that note, I bid you a
“careful with phrases like “not one post” as THEY — WILL — COME BACK TO BITE YOU” kind of day eh 🙂
Edudyorlik September 18, 2013 at 4:47 pm
“I resent your claim and I DO NOT promoted HATE”
RESENT away. Resenting French Canadians Rights is
in your SCRIPTS. You should have no problem resenting
one more thing.
“The only mention of “the word” HATE was when i referred to the”
YOU ARE A BLIND…..KEEP FIGHTING ON….YOUR WHOLE
CONTENT IS HATE AND RESENTEMENT.
RADICALISM DOES NOT SUBSCRIBE TO LOGIC……
KEEP PLAYING VIDEO DJ.
And If you hate FRENCH Canadians having RIGHTS trade in your passport for another Country quit your whining and crying do something about it.
www. Im English that hate’s French rights. com
Edudyorlik September 18, 2013 at 6:32 pm
“Tell me about those people and how these things are not hateful and how MANY things that are going on in that “province” don’t border on hate crimes against ENGLISH people.”
First there is close to 8,000,000 Canadian Citizens that live in Quebec.
Your evidentiary YOU TUBE GOSPEL LIBRARY contains .000000000001% of excerpts of opinions and allegations. NOT FACTS.
You use them as FACTUAL EVIDENCE that have not been investigated nor tested for it’s truthful integrity.
Any one can sit in front of a Camera and claim what they want. It holds no credibility of proof until all sides to the allegations are heard and investigated.
I have posted and posted and posted evidence that what you claim is not accurate only for you to come back with your YOU TUBE GOSPEL.
I have told you before RADICALISM DOES NOT SUBSCRIBE TO LOGIC.
FIGHT ON AND PLAY VIDEO DJ WITH YOUR LIBRARY.
JUST REMEBER MY MONIKER IS
HUNGRY FOR THE TRUTH not the rest of your BULL SH**T ANTICS.
Oh furtz you are soo much the bigger man. You sir, are perfection in an ice cream cone. The kindness and support that exudes from your very pores could do nothing but make us all jealous of the life we wish we had. I do notice however you are at your loudest and most kind when one of your team gets slapped down. Funny. So I guess what you are saying is you only act clownish when your friends are down. Gotcha. Just trying to figure out Furtz’s Rules for Posting In Online Forums.
So was this kindness and respect, hungry?
Hungry for the Truth….
September 16, 2013 at 6:46 pm
FurtzSeptember 16, 2013 at 5:38 pm
“Sorry bella. My comment to you was severely censored by the moderator. Fight on!”
furtz , you never addressed her, the message was directed to
stella. Watch out my friend she’ll hang you.
How about that parrot? Any news?
or how about this one?
Hungry for the Truth….
September 17, 2013 at 10:51 am
stellabystarlight September 17, 2013 at 10:09 am
Stella, Elle m’amuse. She thinks she’s highly skilled and witty with her derogative slurs.
She seems to like to inflate herself by being the strong arm. Looking for approval form her leaders.
J’te comprend quand tu dit qu’elle est comme un chien qui chasse sa queu.
In the mean time she’s good for the entertainment value for the more serious readers. The ones that can see through her childish schoolyard antics and appreciate the laugh. Hahhahah lol….
Now I have to go and answer Highlander’s VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS that have been answered 1000 times before.
Ya, c’est ca. Si je repond pas, il vas comencer a me narguer encore….tu comprend.
A bientôt….
~~
Perhaps my dictionary has a different definition of respect, but what is it you would call these posts? Informative? Respectful? Kind? Thoughtful? Hmmmmmm
HFTT,
After you have written the following:
“Your evidentiary YOU TUBE GOSPEL LIBRARY contains .000000000001% of excerpts of opinions and allegations. NOT FACTS.
You use them as FACTUAL EVIDENCE that have not been investigated nor tested for it’s truthful integrity.”
I respectively ask that you attempt to dispel what is contained in the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iGZE6zxoKQ
And what of your opinion of the recent. “Knight of the Long Knives” er what I mean to say, Lumiere 101?
HFTT,
For all of your support of French Rights’ within and without the Province of Quebec and Canada as a whole; I’m interested as to your thoughts on Anglo right’s restrictions both within the Province of Quebec (Bills 101, 14, etc.) and within the Provinces of Ontario and Nova Scotia.
The latter provinces (Ontario) having to do with the restrictions of printing signs in the language of one’s choice in Ontario and the choosing of Anglos for jobs in the public service in both provinces – Ontario and Nova Scotia?
Furtz September 18, 2013 at 5:44 pm
@ Hungry. Don’t be too offended by the comments of Kilroy or any other freedom fighter. It’s what they do, and it provides endless entertainment. I’ve been called all kinds of names by these clowns, and every time, it just plants a big grin on my mug. The FLA movement is so distracted and sidetracked that they don’t know whether to poop or wind their watches. In the meantime, it’s almost like playing these fish like fish. If you’re into fishing, it’s fun, and you don’t even need a boat!
There you have it folks!
Finally a brave soul from the other side admitting to all of this as being entertainment! This in your face, go to hell, hate anything that’s non French nonsense that is typical of those pure laine types in that Brown shirted province!
It’s not about anti-English sentiments anymore though, is it Furtz? Now that Quebec’s ethnic make-up is not only French, English and Jewish but a multi-Ethnic society containing many more ethnicities this is no longer a French vs. English issue but about a French vs. Everyone Else issue!!!!!!!!!
And I have yet to see a single video whereby any of these non-French people begin the racist shouting or slurs towards French people?
Remember that Asian teen who was chastised in the middle of the night for speaking English?
Remember that Muslim woman who was chastised on the bus recently that I provided a link for?
I’m interested in Quebec’s problems Stella because Quebec is still a part of Canada and Quebec is still for the most part a racist society; even in the year, 2013.
My Canada no longer includes Quebec.
@ edudyorlik. No need to apologize to me. I thought it was funny.
@ bella. You’re making me blush.
@ All. I sincerely apologize for being a contented Anglo enjoying life in good ol’ eastern Ontario.
HFTT, “Show me where in the FLSA does it tell local administration HOW MANY BILINGUAL STAFF they will required to be in compliance with the ACT.”
Where in the Act does it provide for control or an actual needs assessment? The problem of hiring has been brought to the attention of the government from what I understand, even MPP Meillieur commented on the demonstrations. The French Language Services Commissioner does not have any desire or a mandate, to receive this type of complaint or place any limit other than maximum Frenchification.
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HFTT “Usually the Government doesn’t dream up requirements they address legitimate concerns and then develop a response to a viable need.”
Really? They act on complaints, political agenda and what will get them re-elected. 74% of Russell Townships provided bilingual signs, but oh wait, we better put in a bylaw……and across Canada spend so much money that it will add to our kids debt load while not being able to work for that government to pay it back.
————————————
Hope this short and entertaining enough Furtz
@ Hungry for truth (AKA: Lives for lies)
Your claims and accusations are still false and a packed full of lies.
edudyorlik September 11 — through to — the 18th, 2013
NOT ONE SPEC of so called hate or insult.
just a lot of defense for the English language, the English culture and the English people in CANADA
And further more, no matter what you say… These people in these videos are REAL PEOPLE and their claims are REAL. There is no defense for the way these (and many other) Canadian citizens are being treated in the province of Quebec. NONE.
You yourself used the moniker “LIVES FOR LIES” and THAT my dear sir suites you much better because …
WHY? Because if you were really searching for truth — YOU WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM seeing it —
Why? How about the fact that MANY MANY Canadians are seeing the hate and intolerance coming from that god forsaken “PROVINCE”. Thanks in large part to the Huffington Post, my videos (and others now beginning), the AMERICAN media and also THE WORLD MEDIA in general — MANY PEOPLE from AROUND THE WORLD are now seeing the hate and indolence coming from that god forsaken “PROVINCE” (not country but “PROVINCE”) of Quebec as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AIg11uJw94&hd=1
What IS THE WORLD SEEING ?
Well, how about this man … He speaks five languages. He moved to Canada and within the true spirit and belief that ALL OF CANADA was a wonderful “country” to come to; he immigrated to Montreal, QUEBEC. Turns out that this province of Quebec has its own concept of what a wonderful “country” Canada is. A “separate” concept if you will, from the true welcoming concept of what the wonderful country, Canada has… And this “concept in Quebec” is NOT SO INVITING and not so welcoming and wonderful.
THAT, MY FRIEND… Is shameful to the rest of us Canadians.
He was EVEN willing to learn French but, the French powers (the people, guided by their government) that be didn’t give him a chance to do so… They showed their intolerant characters and treated him like sh!t before he even had the chance to comply to their “stringent xenophobic rules” which he was even willing to follow
Here’s his story…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwZOewd-hg&hd=1
“Why are you doing this to us?”
“Is it giving you a joy to see us suffering from not speaking French?”
“I wanted to film how she was so rude to us. How she was discriminating me, my wife in front of my little child”
Yes, the people will decide fort themselves Hungry and guess what? Only bigots and closed minded, cold hearted people would excuse this kind of behavior or accuse these people of fabricating these stories. And thus, I would say, you’re sunk.
PS: BTW, FYI: If ANYONE has to “trade their passport for another Country” it SHOULD BE those people in the “province” of Quebec that feel and believe they are better than, and above everyone else — just because they are French —
For anyone interested, here is the link to Mohamed’s page where you will find dozens of stories from REAL people, REAL Canadians citizens who have been and are being discriminated against in their own country
http://www.youtube.com/user/MohamedHAmin/videos
And, NO… I DO NOT “hate that FRENCH Canadians having RIGHTS”
I just — COMPLETELY 100% — disagree with the fact that THEIR RIGHTS have to trample upon my rights and the rights of EVERYONE ELSE in THAT PROVINCE and in this country.
People are waking up. The world is waking up to all the hatred and intolerance in that province and by the French powers that be. And collectively WE ARE beginning to PUSH BACK
PPS: On that note, I would like to thank you so much for offering up this great opportunity to keep spreading the word. Every challenge you present allows me to show the world MORE AND MORE of what “they” are doing. Without — you — my dear Hungry they would have no comparative for the negative side of this situation and
IT IS — A WELL DOCUMENTED FACT that —
People NEED to see the unadulterated BAD in order to TRULY APPRECIATE — THE WONDERFULLY MAGNIFICENT GOOD —
And on that note, I would like to wish you a “I Am Not Insane, I Am Just A Limited Edition” type of day eh 🙂
How timely… Speaking of intolerance…
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Turkish+bath+LaSalle+target+vandalism/8930062/story.html?fb_action_ids=10151602234440737&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map={%2210151602234440737%22%3A1390773387820225}&action_type_map={%2210151602234440737%22%3A%22og.recommends%22}&action_ref_map=[]
@ Cory. Of course it’s entertainment, and I’m anxiously awaiting your next angst-ridden letter of woe and misery. If Quebec is really not part of YOUR Canada, you’ll be missing out on some great smoked meat, bagels, spruce beer etc. My cousin Iris and I are heading to Montreal next week to pick up a bunch of Toto’s all-dressed pizzas. I’d save you a slice, but I’m sure you wouldn’t enjoy anything from La Belle Province.
ON September 19, 2013 at 7:29 am
Furtz wrote, ”
@ edudyorlik. No need to apologize to me. I thought it was funny.”
Glad to hear that Furtz because it was meant in a light hearted manner.
Hey Furtz,
In your condescending type, albeit thought provoking, mind-boggling, indifferent, unfortunately little learned although in your senior years kinda way…………..
I have thus to say…………….
After ye posted:
“@ Cory. Of course it’s entertainment, and I’m anxiously awaiting your next angst-ridden letter of woe and misery.”
Of course you are, dear sir!!! As you have little to say yourself; I can only imagine you need one of us to research and write a well thought out and written letter in order to attempt to redeem yourself by picking apart!
“If Quebec is really not part of YOUR Canada, you’ll be missing out on some great smoked meat, bagels, spruce beer etc.”
That’s true, however I hear that Quebec treats it’s American and European tourists far better than their fellow countrymen from the rest of Canada. I guess I’ll just have to visit Rouyn-Noranda with a Canadian Passport the next time I’m around and the Seperatists finally do separate the Province of Quebec from Canada.
“My cousin Iris and I are heading to Montreal next week to pick up a bunch of Toto’s all-dressed pizzas. I’d save you a slice, but I’m sure you wouldn’t enjoy anything from La Belle Province.”
For the most part, I do enjoy La Belle Province and most of everything it has to offer – save it’s political/social problems. And too, Furtz, I’d take you up on that slice of pie however things being how they are between our groups; I’d fear you’d try to poison me.
Switching gears, I’d like to take this opportunity to say a few things that I was thinking about earlier on before having read one of Edudyorlik’s messages of September 19, 2013 at 8:10 am. For almost 3 years now; we’ve been battling back and forth over this and other issues affecting our country. I want to take this brief time out and apologize to all new ethnic Canadians out there reading this. I can’t even begin to think how you feel reading these rants between two groups of ‘founding’ Canadians. I’m sure that many of you in a million years before moving to Canada never thought that things would be quite like this in a democratic country whereby your very financial/social success may depend on the comprehension of a minority language.
To those ethnic minorities reading this who rallied in Montreal in the thousands the other day against Bill 101 – I have this to say. Thank you for reminding me what it ‘should’ be like to be a proud Canadian. Sometimes as native-born Canadians we forget what it took to truly be free. Most of us just whine, bitch and complain at the local Tim Hortons during the daytime and watch hockey on CBC by Saturday night. Only to have everything forgotten by Sunday.
A heartfelt thank you for reminding us that Freedom isn’t Free.
I do agree with Furtz on a few things in his latest message. The pizza, bagels, smoked meat are all great. Most of my family and wife’s family don’t like spruce beer but I think it’s great. An acquired taste for most though who do end up liking it. And oh yes, before I forget, French TV is awesome [screw you Jamie 🙂 ] La tete a Claque is overrated but La Petite Vie is underrated. And the Bye Bye Series has turned mostly to satire political skits which is friggin awesome. You’ll see it around New Year’s on French TV; hence the name.
well there used to be Bleu Nuit that helped many a young anglo learn some French….
And yes, i agree with the sentiment that there is a small glimmer of understanding that seems to emanate from Furtz.
Every now and then , when i take off my foil hat 🙂 I see it clearly in his words. Like these…
Furtz wrote, “Even with all its flaws, you must admit that Canada is a freakin’ paradise compared to most of the world.”
And of course, we all have to agree that this is true. THERE IS NO DOUBT we are VERY fortunate to live in CANADA.
But, the truth of the matter is Canada is an entity that is a sum of ALL OF IT’S PARTS.
And, it would seem to be QUITE CLEAR that one of THOSE PARTS (do i have to say which — Quebec –), though it does have, as Furtz pointed out, “some great smoked meat, bagels, spruce beer and do on” has a well documented hate on for anything NOT FRENCH.
The challenge is to either get ALL OF CANADA — ALL THE PARTS (need your help Furtz) including Quebec — to be as welcoming
OR
to allow Quebec to be it’s own entity (which relaly isn’t all that bad a concept) so that we can appreciate each other more and end up respecting the differences from afar (as some might say).
I have a feeling this would allow for all the resentments to get stripped away and and put aside so that we could respect “the differences and distinctness’s” MUCH BETTER in the end.
Providing of course that, that during the “friendly split” ONE side (need i say which?) doesn’t try to get greedy considering it’s bargaining stance would be as a defeated entity and the other side (obvious) does not take advantage of it’s victorious position (which everyone MUST admit, has NOT been shown to be their tact so far).
Blue nuit? hahahahahahah LOL … Uhmm errr, that was… Uhmm err, i mean. Uhmmm, what was that?
That was not something i would have known about, oh no.
That was not the precursor to “certain things” being shown on regular television, no way. That was not something that came on in the wee hours of the morning on the French channel. No way. Not so… I never watched that 🙂 So, what was it again ? 🙂
Oh and, for the record…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2PUgtzFWgQ&hd=1
Hey Hungry, would you call this video statement by Mr. Tom (or Tom-ussss” in Quebec) , “FACTUAL EVIDENCE that has been tested for it’s truthful integrity?”
One of my favs 🙂
http://www.tetesaclaques.tv/le_camping_vid27
bella September 19, 2013 at 6:03 am
“what is it you would call these posts? Informative?”
The same question right back at you, what is it you would call
these posts? Informative?
bella September 3, 2013 at 11:35 am
“why would I cast any more pearls before a swine like you?”
bella September 13, 2013 at 5:37 am
“Stop acting like a child and learn to debate like a grownup.”
bella September 16, 2013 at 2:09 pm
“Oh honey take the time or just shut up.”
What would you call this Informative?
edudyorlik September 19, 2013 at 1:20 pm
“Hey Hungry, would you call this video statement by Mr. Tom (or Tom-ussss” in Quebec) ,”
“FACTUAL EVIDENCE that has been tested for it’s truthful integrity?”
It remains an opinion not a FACT. ARE YOU FOR REAL? After all the slaughter and demonizing you have built against Politicians now you are wanting me to take this You Tube bloop as FACTUAL EVIDENCE that has been tested for it’s truthful integrity. Seriously?
“And further more, no matter what you say… These people in these videos are REAL PEOPLE and their claims are REAL. There is no defense for the way these (and many other) Canadian citizens are being treated in the province of Quebec. NONE.”
Any one can sit in front of a Camera and claim what they want. It holds no credibility of proof until all sides to the allegations are heard and investigated.
They may be as you say REAL PEOPLE. What they prove is they have a claim that alleges this is what happened. What we do not have is evidence from the other side on who the allegations are claimed against. YOU TUBE is a Social Media Network that allows a venue for PUBLIC to Technologically reach PUBLIC. No one is asked to sign an affidavit to post their video. No one verifies for accuracies and truthfulness. It remain an alleged incident until
proven.
“You yourself used the moniker “LIVES FOR LIES” and THAT my dear sir suites you much better because …”
You are correct on July 11th for 6hours I used it. I disclosed it and my reasons for doing so. I have have never re posted using that moniker ever. I no longer use it and will never use it again. My MONIKER IS HUNGRY FOR THE TRUTH. Nothing more. And I
have no other MONIKER registered. As it was posted by the moderator “address the person by the moniker they are using NOW not THEN”.
“THAT, MY FRIEND… Is shameful to the rest of us Canadians.”
MY FRIEND?????? PLEASE……I respect you as a fellow Canadian, but I would go as far as to count you in as my FRIEND.
“I Am Just A Limited Edition”
Now I know what I will be grateful for today Only ONE of you.
How grateful I am.
Eric September 19, 2013 at 7:53 am
“Where in the Act does it provide for control or an actual needs assessment?”
ACTUAL NEEDS ASSESMENT…..AND DEVELOPMENT OF LOCAL PLAN TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
Limitation of obligations of government agencies, etc.
( 7. ) The obligations of government agencies and institutions(CCH) of the Legislature under this Act are subject to such limits as circumstances make reasonable and necessary, if all reasonable measures and plans for compliance with this Act have been taken or made. R.S.O. 1990, c. F.32, s.7.
CONTROL AND VERRIFICATION……
Function of Office of Francophone Affairs
(2) The Office of Francophone Affairs may,
(a) review the availability and quality of French language services and make recommendations for their improvement;
(d) recommend changes in the plans of government agencies CCH for the provision of French language services;
(e) make recommendations in respect of an exemption or proposed exemption of services under clause 8 (c),
“The French Language Services Commissioner does not have any desire or a mandate, to receive this type of complaint or place any limit other than maximum Frenchification.”
Do you have this letter confirming that the French Language Services Commissionaire has no desire to receive complaints or place any limits?
As for being mandated the above noted information dispels you claim that has no “MANDATE.”
As for second part of your dissertation I will not respond. Your style it is very much out of character for you and has no reference to my point.
Again I ask…….
Show me where in the FLSA does it tell local administration HOW MANY BILINGUAL STAFF they will required to be in compliance with the ACT?
Who has determined that all staff at CCH has to be 100% bilingual?
And which formula have they used to justify the need?
Hungry for the Truth….
September 20, 2013 at 1:16 pm
“The same question right back at you, what is it you would call
these posts? Informative?”
Enough with the double talk. You are fooling no one.
I’m not the one who cried to admin that me feelers were hurt.
And I’m not the one who uses super secret codes to insult people. I say what I mean, and stand behind what I say. Unlike some posters.
So…….you first.