Discrimination
Discrimination. The big D word. A word most readily used by many though rarely meritable in its’ use. In our contemporary world of political correctness, discrimination is one of many ‘buzzwords’ that forms a politicians’ lexicon of verbal spaghetti. Political figures love to throw around the idea that one group of people are often discriminated against by another group of people or even by a nation’s laws. It is a fantastic vote grabber for those most instrumental in the art of politics. The truth however, in this day and age, is that rarely are modern-day laws discriminatory in their practice, right?
Wrong!
Have you ever heard of the concepts of affirmative action or what we like to call employment equity in Canada? These are concepts that were instituted into Canadian law to help level the playing field for those who have traditionally suffered the ill consequences of discrimination; especially in the job market. Under the Constitution Act of 1982, containing the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms; equity legislation is detailed therein. The Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) is enforced by the Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC) and it is this commission that deals with whether or not discrimination has taken place in the workplace.
The following details the issue of Prohibited Grounds of Discrimination in Canada: (Belcourt, Bohlander, & Snell, Managing Human Resources, 5th Canadian Edition, 2008).
Race or colour
Religion
Physical or mental disability
Dependence on alcohol or drugs
Age
Sex
Marital status
Family status
Sexual orientation
National or ethnic origin (including linguistic background)
Ancestry of place of origin
Language
Social Condition or origin
Source of income
Assignment, attachment or seizure of pay
Based on association
Political belief
Record of criminal conviction
Pardoned conviction
While appearing like a fair and equitable approach to the issue of fairness in hiring practices; employment equity actually creates the framework for unfair hiring criteria – whereby the best qualified person may be the most successful candidate but may not be chosen due to government imposed employment equity legislation. Case-in-point; consider the possibility of two highly qualified candidates applying for the same government or private sector industry, job. One candidate, a qualified counselor who, as a child, was raised in the atmosphere of a same sex marriage; understands the very real social challenges faced by his/her same sex parents. One could surmise that not only is this individual qualified as a counselor; but has the added experience of being raised in a non-traditional family setting, outside of the traditional nuclear family. The other candidate is also a highly qualified counselor but is a homosexual. By the very definition and reasoning for employment equity, chances are that the successful candidate will be chosen due to his/her sexuality and not necessarily for his/her skills.
Another scenario if you will. Imagine an Aboriginal couple fostering a non-Aboriginal child who is raised and immersed in Aboriginal culture. He/she has a university/college education associated with his/her chosen field; speaks an Aboriginal language, is well-versed in the culture and customs associated with the First Nation and has all the credentials required of someone who could work for a government or non-government Aboriginal organization. The other candidate also has some or most of these qualifications but has one added qualification. Their ethnicity or race is of a First Nation. Once again, by the very definition and reasoning for employment equity, chances are that the successful candidate will be chosen due to his/her ethnicity or race and not necessarily for his/her skills.
Sound like rare or improbable cases and scenarios to you? I can attest that they’re not. They’re increasingly happening everyday in Canada and Human Resources professionals have had to contend with the issue of unfair hiring criteria that these laws have created since at least 1995 with the Employment Equity Act.
If you think at this point that our Canadian employment laws are unfair and unjustified then I have even more bad news for you. Consider the above information I’ve provided about Employment Equity. Add to this the increasingly unfair bilingual language requirements as well and you can see where things are headed. A politically correct society where in the quest for fairness we’ve permitted a very unfair system to flourish unchallenged by the people themselves. We need to ask ourselves if Canada’s employment and language laws are really a reflection of what we encompass and value as a society or if our various levels of government are attempting through social engineering, to shape and mould the people’s consciousness to the system itself. In other words, do the people work for the system or should the system work for the people?
Ever heard of the concept of a ‘bona fide occupational qualification’? Believe it or not, this concept currently exists in Canada and it allows for discrimination in hiring! That’s right folks. You read that correctly. In the very ‘Act’, the Canadian Human Rights Act (CHRA) whose existence is to prohibit discriminatory hiring practices there exists government-sponsored discriminatory hiring! As Belcourt et al. reports (2008):
The act applies to all federal government departments and agencies, to Crown corporations, and to other businesses and industries under federal jurisdiction, such as banks, airlines, railway companies, and insurance and communications companies. For those areas not under federal jurisdiction, protection is available under provincial human rights laws. Provincial laws, although very similar to federal ones, do differ from province to province. Every province and territory has a human rights act (or code), and each has jurisdiction prohibiting discrimination in the workplace. The prohibited grounds of discrimination in employment include race, religion, sex, age, national or ethnic origin, physical handicap, and marital status…Employers are permitted to discriminate if employment preferences are based on a bona fide occupational qualifications (BFOQ) or BFOR (bona fide occupational requirement). A BFOQ is justified if the employer can establish necessity for business operations. In other words, differential treatment is not discrimination if there is a justifiable reason. (106)
This sounds an awful lot like Orwell’s, Animal Farm, where Commandment #7 which originally stated that:
“All animals are equal”
Was eventually changed to,
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”
Is this the kind of Canada we want to live and work in? Surely the ideology of an individual’s rights should trump group rights in all respects. Should it not? Otherwise, we need to ask ourselves if we truly live in a democracy where all citizens enjoy the same rights and privileges as all others. As of this writing, the majority of our citizenry cannot work for their civil service or hold the highest office of the land due to nothing more than a lack of knowledge of one of Canada’s minority languages.
Please keep in mind that,
“All Canadians are equal, but some Canadians are more equal than others”
Cory Cameron
Timmins, On
Sunday August 25, 2013
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Cory Cameron September 19, 2013 at 7:18 am
“Finally a brave soul from the other side admitting to all of this as being entertainment!”
What other word would you use to describe this endless show of discord? More You Tube bloops than a 30 minutes CTV News cast. An endless barrage of comments that has no direction. Opinions and views that on the grand scheme of things has no objective or relevance. What other classification do you give it?
“Now that Quebec’s ethnic make-up is not only French, English and Jewish but a multi-Ethnic society containing many more ethnicities this is no longer a French vs. English issue but about a French vs. Everyone Else issue!!!!!!!!!”
The issue remains the same as it’s always been. Canadian Quebec Immigration is and has been for generations contingent upon linguistic requirements. There is no “Everyone Else issue!!!!!!”
The laws are clear for all seeking to enter Canada through the Quebec portal, they willingly enter into an agreement on linguistic requirements. No one is forced to immigrate to Quebec.
No one springs a surprise on New Canadians, they voluntarily accept the conditions of Citizenship.
Jacques Parizzeau’s reseignation 18 years ago confirms the very FACT that Quebec has been forever Multi Ethenic. It just didn’t happen 5 years ago.
His remarks blammed the Multi Ethenic population Vote for the loss of the referendum in 1995. Multi Ethnocentricity was visible then and before. Nothing new here. Certainly nothing that could confirm accuaracy to “Now that Quebec’s ethnic make-up is not only French, English and Jewish”
Check your history. Quebec has always been a Multi Ethnic society for generations.
Does Little Italy, China Town, Quartier Latin, Westmount, St Leonard. The neighbouring city of Laval also has a sizable Greek community, predominantly residing in the borough of Chomedey. Montreal’s Haitian community of 100,000 people is the largest in Canada. Large percentages of Haitians live in Montréal-Nord, Saint-Michel and R.D.P. The South Shore suburb of Brossard in particular has a high ethnic Chinese population, at 12% of its population.
This did not happen overnight. Quebec has always had a large Ethenic Diversity. Nothing New.
Cory Cameron September 19, 2013 at 7:03 am
“For all of your support of French Rights’ within and without the Province of Quebec and Canada as a whole;”
Your hypothesis of “your support” is subjective and implicit to your thinking.
I do not support Abortion but I am however in accord with it’s existence and mindful of others freedom, equality, and justice to access services.
I do not support FRENCH RIGHTS but I am however in accord with it’s existence and mindful of others freedom, equality, and justice to access Canada’s official languages of their chose.
I do not support Anti Smoking Laws but I am however in accord with it’s existence and mindful of others freedom, equality, and justice to a smoke free enviroment.
I do not support Fire Arms Legistlation but I am however in accord with it’s existence and mindful of others freedom, equality, and justice to access permits to cary and have them.
You confuse my defence of EQUALITY=EQUAL as support. I support the principle of FREEDOM of choice , EQUALITY and JUSTICE of all RIGHTS.
“I’m interested as to your thoughts on Anglo right’s restrictions both within the Province of Quebec (Bills 101, 14, etc.) and within the Provinces of Ontario and Nova Scotia.”
I have addressed this questions numerous times and elabarated my thoughts on your question. Re-posting and re-elabarating would be redundant.
I do however have a Question for you.
Say I was a French Speaking Canadian, applying for a Public sector job in Ontario, would I be
restricted in Ontario becaause I did not speak English?
PS. Bill 14 is non existent. Not yet anyways. It has no credibile existential validity. It’s in the dead pile for now. It may come back up with it’s amendments??? If the FRENCH SEPARATIST aren’t booted out before. INTENT is not Law.
Cory Cameron September 19, 2013 at 11:21 am
“To those ethnic minorities reading this who rallied in Montreal in the thousands the other day against Bill 101” –
HOW MANY.?????….THOUSANDS?????? WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR NEWS?
“A DOZEN PROTESTER”…CBC NEWS. THOUSANDS.?…Slightly exaggerated? Or shall I say grossly exaggerated……
Bill 101 supporters gather in downtown Montreal
CBC News Posted: Sep 19, 2013 7:27 AM ET cbc.ca (excerpt)
A few hundred people last night protested what they say is the growing use of English in Montreal. The participants held flashlights to form a MTL 101 sign.
About 400 supporters of Bill 101 gathered last night in downtown Montreal to show their concern about the amount of English being spoken here.
A dozen protesters wielding Canadian flags also attended the gathering, among them Antoinette Mercurio.
Ha ha ha ha hahahahah… LOL… OMG.. Hahahaha.. OK so you’re saying that it’s ONLY Mr. Tumm uhhh’s opinion and not fact that there is “systemic discrimination” in the province of Quebec ? Hahahahaha… Alrighty then Mr. HFFT (AKA: Lives for lies)
UHmm err, so… in your rose colored world. How many “opinions” would constitute enough “opinions” to determine that there is legitimacy and truth within them?
Oh, never mind that question. That’s fine. Cling to your state of denial. I could care less about YOUR response.
This is one that… to quote “someone we all know”
“I’ll let the readers ponder to determine if your opinion trumps
the mountains of evidence along with this direct statement from Mr. Tumm-uhhhh who has more to loose than to gain by saying such a thing about “a large block of his voting base”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfz3o0bXxfc
And on that note, i would like to wish you a “your damn right to be grateful there is only one of me” kinda days eh 🙂
HFTT wrote: What they prove is they have a claim that alleges this is what happened.
What we do not have is evidence from the other side on who the allegations are claimed against. YOU TUBE is a Social Media Network that allows a venue for PUBLIC to Technologically reach PUBLIC
ABSOLUTELY HFTT…..that is why I NEVER wasted time looking at any of their you tube videos. They are not credible and like I said many times before, anyone can make a you tube video and proclaim anything their little heart desires whether it is factual or not. The Video King is totally mesmerized and transfixed by this……go figure.
@ bella. It’s good that your feelers weren’t hurt. That wouldn’t be a good thing.
There you go again furtzy, deflecting the crap off your mate hungry. Can’t you just let him fight his own battles? You didn’t help him dig his holes, why won’t you just let him choke on his baloney?
Edudyorlik September 20, 2013 at 3:27 pm
“OK so you’re saying that it’s ONLY Mr. Tumm uhhh’s opinion and not fact that there is “systemic discrimination” in the province of Quebec ?”
No that is not what I am saying. That’s what you are TWISTING it to say. I am saying that you are now using a politician’s words to make you claim.How warped is that. Your sniffing something to come up with that.
It remains an opinion not a FACT. ARE YOU FOR REAL? After all the slaughter and demonizing you have built against Politicians now you are wanting me to take this You Tube bloop as FACTUAL EVIDENCE that has been tested for it’s truthful integrity. Seriously?
Beeeeeeeeeeep
Attention attention… This is the mesmerized and transfixed video King speaking.
Please… Drop what you’re doing and PAY ATTENTION to this VERY IMPORTANT public service announcement…
Thomas (Tum uhhh in Quebec) Mulcair has appeared on the “regular network Canadian news media television”
That’s right… REGULAR BROADCAST CANADIAN NEWS
to proclaim that he has himself witnessed and dealt with “systemic discrimination against minorities in Quebec.”
Though this is NOT surprising “news” to most, it is IMPORTANT TO NOTE that it was not JUST being presented to the public on some Youtube video ONLY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfz3o0bXxfc
— It was also “a news story” on one of your national Canadian broadcast news agencies —
Shesh, it’s no wonder things are so messed up in this country. 90% of the people either don’t believe in or don’t pay attention to their own news media.
Beeeeeeeeeeepp
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Thank you for your attention.
We now take you back now to your regularly scheduled programming.
And on that note,
i would like to wish you a “if this had been a real emergency the beep you heard at the beginning would have been followed by instructions on how to have a — go jump in a lake — kind of day eh 🙂
Whoooo hooooo…
ON September 20, 2013 at 2:37 pm Hungry for the Truth (AKA: Lives for lies) embarked on the journey of making himself look silly yet again by asking …
“Say I was a French Speaking Canadian, applying for a Public sector job in Ontario, would I be restricted in Ontario becaause I did not speak English?”
ONCE AGAIN HFTT (AKA: Lives for lies) PLEASE get it straight.
“THESE TWO “LANGUAGE ISSUES WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF — THE COUNTRY OF CANADA” — ARE SIMPLY NOT DIRECTLY COMPARABLE. PERIOD
One is considered the main language of the the majority population in CANADA (THE COUNTRY) and the other is considered a local “province of Quebec language.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E_BgxHZVFI&hd=1
And that’s not even counting the fact that the English language is — the majority language in Canada — (which includes the province of Quebec and thus Quebec is subject to
that concept as well) so, if we go by the “rule” that Quebec seems to like to go by when they say, “French is the majority language here in the province of Quebec so, if you want to live in Quebec you have to understand and to speak French”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rpJbxjT564&hd=1
then your attempted comparison is doubly laughable.
And on that note i wish you a “thou shalt refrain from comparing apples and oranges” type of day eh 🙂
September 20, 2013 at 2:44 pm“ Hungry for the Truth Wrote,
“A DOZEN PROTESTER”…CBC NEWS. THOUSANDS.?…Slightly exaggerated? Or shall I say grossly exaggerated…… ”
I dunno there Hungry. Was this verified. After all, it was only on the news ya know. DO YOU HAVE proof? Is this substantiated anywhere else?
What we do not have is evidence from the other side on who the allegations are claimed against?
Where the two parties brought together to hash this out to be sure?
How can we trust that you clipped the right article?
Oh and PS, you do know that for every ONE of those 400 “French is best, squash all other languages using bill 101” protestors physically there it is said that there are hundreds at home pumping their fists in the air yelling “vivre le Quebec libre, outlaw the hinglish” at the television sets.
Ah, bu who knows eh? That could really be thousands instead off hundreds, right ? ;- )
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
and thus, I wish you a “a proof is da proof, we need proof” kind of day eh 🙂
HFTT,
“Say I was a French Speaking Canadian, applying for a Public sector job in Ontario, would I be
restricted in Ontario becaause I did not speak English?”
Yes, you would be. With unfair legislation requiring for the most part bilingualism for public sector jobs in Ontario, if ‘YOUR’ skillset was ‘ONLY’ considered out of linguistic factors and not ‘YOUR’ ability to do the job, then I would argue yes in fact you would be restricted only if you spoke French.
I can think of one example that I have personally been advised of. Due to bilingual language requirements of the public service, my wife informed me that a couple that had recently moved to North Bay had to return to Montreal because the wife was refused the job because she didn’t speak English. What?! Apparently, the woman had done whatever the job was for around a decade! Talk about disheartening, right? This is simply unfair and unjust! Again, I would say that these types of government regulations actually deter people from becoming their best.
You see Hungry (or maybe and probably you don’t), for us this isn’t so much a language issue is so far as it’s more individual freedom related issues. I WANT THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON DOING THE JOB. NOT THE BEST LINGUISTICS EXPERT! Does it really matter what language the person is speaking so long as their effective in their position(s)?
Stella and others will argue that nurses need to be bilingual due to language barriers whenever patients are complaining of specific ailments. There is some truth in that, right? Hence the need for translation services within the hospital and/or some bilingual staff being required? But all? No, not by a long shot!
Now there are exceptions for this and should be. I’ve mentioned before on CFN forums that two such exceptions could be diplomats and translators. Why? Because the very essence of those job functions are to have knowledge of a specific(s) language(s).
As of now, hordes of qualified unilingual English speaking people are heading West only because they don’t qualify for these ‘bilingual’ jobs that some would otherwise be qualified for. Why do the majority of jobs in the public service require candidates to be bilingual when use of the French language doesn’t require it. Are there really that many French only people living in Ontario that require services in French from our government? What was the last count? 1% of the population? It’s social engineering.
Now, why would 4 municipalities require business owners to post in English and French? And to enforce that by law? Why restrict the use of languages whatsoever? And what people or organizations are pushing this agenda? And why is this taking place to begin with?
ALL language laws need to be eradicated in this country if we are to be truly free to express ourselves. Personally, I don’t care if I need to learn a third language and use ONLY THAT LANGUAGE. Say for instance, that there be a large influx of the use of Mandarin in Ontario or anywhere else in Canada for that matter. Why not just use the language of the majority, right? Sure, whenever I go to Quebec, I don’t care about being serviced in English as I’m bilingual and just switch to French.
However, I don’t go to Quebec intentionally trying to use English (especially up North here). And why would I? I know perfectly well that most up in Northern Quebec would rather speak French instead of English and many don’t even speak French.
Buuuuuuut, I walked into a post office a few months ago speaking English and was responded to in French for the entire conversation. I didn’t want to play like that on that day and why should I have? Why should I have accomodated someone by speaking French to a civil servant whom I was receiving service from in a province whereby the vast majority are English speaking? I can now only assume that the civil servant didn’t care if I spoke/understood French or not. If she did, she would have asked me if I understood her or else would have sought out the services of one of her colleagues to serve me. Now, for an institution that supposedly offered bilingual services? Why didn’t the person get someone else?
In any case, the minute that we as a people are “REQUIRED” to do something by laws instead of just being considerate to one-another is the day we lose something.
In Ontario, Quebec and Nova Scotia we as Canadians have lost something. French ultranationalists are pushing a French only agenda everywhere they go by appealing to Francophones who see their language as the last vestige of tradionalism left in their culture. This has created a division amongst two founding peoples – both English and French. You can feel it, sense it, hear it and see it everywhere across this nation. But these same ultranationalists have taken it a step further. War has been declared on non-English Rights in Quebec, now, too. True colours are showing now. This isn’t about language anymore, right? BUt about some Xenophobic idea that the Francophone culture is disappearing in Quebec. The ‘Charter of Quebec Values’? It should be re-written as the ‘Charter of the Francophone People of Quebec’.
Howard Galganov warned us back during the South Stormont meeting of September 26, 2012 and uttered the following:
“If you think that this ends with just language, I’ve got news for you.”
And to borrow Edudyorlik’s sign off, ‘Have yourselves a new war; as now Religion is the new restricted standard and not just language anymore in Quebec kind of day, eh!’
Cory
Great link edudyorlik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E_BgxHZVFI&hd=1
Some posters remain in denial of the reality and for Mulclair to point out of the systemic descrimination I give him credit for .
***For all those deniers after all the evidence that is provided:
“The nationalist not only does not disprove the atrocities committed by his side ,but he has a renarkable capacity for not even hearing about them”………George Orwell ***********
The stats do not lie !It puts to question why such a variance between provinces ,does this imply that Ontario is much fairer to minorities then Quebec?
But the country and the media are asking the serious questions that need to be addressed why such a disparity between provinces and minoritiy hiring.
YES THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD IS WATCHING THE 4TH REICH IN QUEBEC !
WELCOME TO LA RACIST PROVINCE!
edudyorlik September 21, 2013 at 12:38 am
“I dunno there Hungry. Was this verified. After all, it was only on the news ya know. DO YOU HAVE proof? Is this substantiated anywhere else?”
Montreal Gazette ( excerpt )
September 19, 2013 by Pat Martin
“400 people hold candles that form the shape of 101, as they protest the use of English language in the city of Montreal on September 18, 2013”
September 19, 2013 11:14 am-( excerpt )
By Staff Global News
“Hundreds of people gathered at Place des Festivals with many holding lamps. They grouped together to create an enormous glowing “MTL 101”
Bill 101 supporters gather in downtown Montreal
CBC News Posted: Sep 19, 2013 7:27 AM ET cbc.ca (excerpt)
A few hundred people last night protested what they say is the growing use of English in Montreal. The participants held flashlights to form a MTL 101 sign.
About 400 supporters of Bill 101 gathered last night in downtown Montreal to show their concern about the amount of English being spoken here.
A dozen protesters wielding Canadian flags also attended the gathering, among them Antoinette Mercurio.
And if you take time to verify you will also find visual aids to confirm what three News sources FACTUALLY confirm, HUNDREDS NOT THOUSANDS.
“What we do not have is evidence from the other side on who the allegations are claimed against?”
NOW YOU DO…..
CONFIRMED AND VERIFIED. A FACT.
Cory Cameron September 21, 2013 at 7:37 am
HFTT wrote, “Say I was a French Speaking Canadian, applying for a Public sector job in Ontario, would I be restricted in Ontario because I did not speak English?”
Cory wrote; “Yes, you would be. With unfair legislation requiring for the most part bilingualism for public sector jobs in Ontario, if ‘YOUR’ skillset was ‘ONLY’ considered out of linguistic factors and not ‘YOUR’ ability to do the job, then I would argue yes in fact you would be restricted only if you spoke French.”
So I would be restricted In ONTARIO because I do not speak English.
So Ontario does DISCRIMINATES against French Speaking Canadians.?
WHY treat Quebec as a racist Province for laws that allegedly discriminates against it’s linguistic minority when Ontario allegedly is equally GUILTY of the same practises?
Hungry for the Truth…. September 21, 2013 at 11:57 am
NOW Folks,,can you imagine if Ontario had 400 people supporting and encouraging regulation 17 .
Oh the torches would be lite ,oh the racial slurs directed at them ,oh ya and the Provincial and federal governments would actually speak up (how amazing they would take a stand).
But if it happens in Quebec not one lonely word from governments.
But then having to support regulation 17 in Ontario there would be all kinds of reprisals ,and yet regulation 17 is very mild compared bill 101
That’s because the French are experts at extortion those mass rallies …you need not look long ago with the student protest .
The students pay the lowest tuition in Canada yet that was not enough THEY WANTED IT FOR FREE,now who do you think pays to ensure the lowest tuition and there so called free education?
We the taxpayers through transfer payments ,those same tranafer payments that five Quebec 7$ daycare,its us the taxpayers that pay additional taxes for transfer to Quebec for there social programs .
If English population protested as French equality would prevail ,as the government can only hear the pots and pans bagging .
Hungry for the Truth…. September 21, 2013 at 12:18 pm
” So I would be restricted In ONTARIO because I do not speak English.
So Ontario does DISCRIMINATES against French Speaking Canadians.?”
“WHY treat Quebec as a racist Province for laws that allegedly discriminates against it’s linguistic minority when Ontario allegedly is equally GUILTY of the same practises?”
Oh hungry ,you really are not that bright ,does Ontario outlaw and restrict French language as Quebec does with English.
So no they are not guilty of the same practices.
Perhaps hungry you need to back to your promised land and like your brethren pick on the ETHNICS and ENGLISH.
YOU REALLY ARE BRAINWASHED IF YOU THINK ONTARIO AND QUEBEC ARE EQUALLY GUILTY OF THE SAME PRACTICES TO MINORITIES AND ETHNICS.
Hungry you need to be deprogramed ,the propaganda has worked too well with you as you have lost all logic and reasoning.
Go back to your promised land and preach to sheep there ,we here do not swallow your sh**.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E_BgxHZVFI&hd=1
So now you think the state broadcast is wrong as well,actually look at the media footage .
Oh that’s right you remain to be closed minded by not looking at it.
We I still read your biased statements and written diarrhea,yes we laugh at your expense of your extent of programing you have aquired ,but hey for you anything for frenchification.
No no, the — REAL question here — Mr. HFTT (AKA: lies for life) is …
ARE YOU FOR REAL?
I gather that television news does not hold the same “value” and “integrity” as “proof” to you as the written media does?
HFTT (AKA: Lives for lies) wrote, “After all the slaughter and demonizing you have built against Politicians now you are wanting me to take this You Tube bloop as FACTUAL EVIDENCE that has been tested for it’s truthful integrity. Seriously?”
Hummm, OK, how about a politician quoting studies? Would you accept that Mr. (i know it all, my information is MORE VALID THAN YOURS and my “member” is bigger too) HFTT ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQHpEAmtbB0&hd=1
C’mon. Who do you think you are anyways? ARE YOU FOR REAL ?
HERE, have a listen to Barry Wilson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdZcQClWkIs&hd=1
And while you do so, keep in mind —-
(as you sit with your “member” –
which is the only excuse I can come up with that explains your sense of grandeur and how you can be so caught up in your idealism so as not to have (or demonstrate) any compassion for these people
— in hand)
—- that ANY potential thoughts you might have about the idea that what Barry is claiming are simply “allegations” and not “proven facts” can indeed be cast aside since pretty much all of what “he claims” can be found available in videos that are circulating around which SHOW EXACTLY the reality of what he claims — in true 100% Technicolor to boot.
So, please spare me (and ALL the people that are facing these cruelties in the province of Quebec) the insult of “trying” to “pretend” that this stuff isn’t happening and all of these accusations are not true simply because they have not passed — YOUR — sniff test.
Because frankly. — YOUR personal opinion about this issue — means nothing to me, and I venture an educated guess that it means nothing to MANY OTHER PEOPLE either.
Especially those THAT ARE DEALING WITH THIS cruelty.
And, on that note, i would like to wish you a “keep dreaming of being more important than you actually are” kinda day eh 🙂
@ the Pure Laines; Do you have your Quebec Passport yet???
http://www.passeportquebecois.com/
highlander September 21, 2013 at 1:29 pm
“Oh hungry ,you really are not that bright ,does Ontario outlaw and restrict French language as Quebec does with English. So no they are not guilty of the same practices.”
YES YES YES……The result is the same if you do not speak English in Ontario you do not get the job.
I’m BRIGHT enough to know that it equals to the same result.
Discrimination against the linguistic minority of Ontario
So as you’ve said……
“Go back to your promised land and preach to sheep there ,we here do not swallow your sh**.”
edudyorlik September 21, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Would you accept that Mr. (i know it all, my information is MORE VALID THAN YOURS and my “member” is bigger too) HFTT ?
NOTHING LIKE GETTING PERSONAL. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO DEBATING THE ISSUE NOT THE PERSON?
edudyorlik September 21, 2013 at 1:58 pm
“And, on that note, i would like to wish you a “keep dreaming of being more important than you actually are” kinda day eh”
Not more important EQUALLY important as you.
edudyorlik September 19, 2013 at 1:20 pm
“I Am Just A Limited Edition”
edudyorlik September 21, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Once again great factual links ,but hungry and his Quebec nationalist view keeps him blind to the reality.
” YOUR personal opinion about this issue — means nothing to me, and I venture an educated guess that it means nothing to MANY OTHER PEOPLE either”
So true there kilroy ,but never a sour word from them regarding the seperatists,they must defend their rascist brethren as they have the same ideologies …right hungry your Aug 30 post blaming all the English speakers for Quebecs woes!
I do not blame the French people for our language apartheid but the governments for setting up the conditions for it to thrive.
highlander September 21, 2013 at 1:02 pm
“The students pay the lowest tuition in Canada yet that was not enough THEY WANTED IT FOR FREE,now who do you think pays to ensure the lowest tuition and there so called free education?|”
You seem to be forgetting the FACT the tuition hikes were equally protested by ENGLISH students in Quebec. Not just FRENCH. The 3000 or so students that protested came from both linguistic representation.
“But then having to support regulationtn 17 in Ontario there would be all kinds of reprisals ,and yet regulation 17 is very mild compared bill 101”
Not the same at all. Reg 17 was to abolish french in Ontario. IOI has no intent to abolish English. It seeks correct historical injustices by preserving the use of French for the majority. Like Ontario has English as it’s Official language to preserve English
for the majority.
“We the taxpayers through transfer payments ,those same tranafer payments that five Quebec 7$ daycare,its us the taxpayers that pay additional taxes for transfer to Quebec for there social programs .”
Show me where the transfer payments are used for day care. Transfer payments are not the source of payment for this PROVINCIAL SERVICE. More BS.
highlander September 21, 2013 at 3:17 pm
“I do not blame the French people for our language apartheid but the governments for setting up the conditions for it to thrive.”
You should run for politics. The French people are represented by their FRENCH government. It’s kind of hard of not blaming one without the other.
The French people =The French Government. = The same.
I agree HFTT. I guess when Kilroy has been proven wrong so many times, he just goes for personal attacks. THis boy claims and posts unilingual signs without checking the whole building for the other possible sign that might show the translation. HE complains about lack of menus in restaurants that are available in english had he asked. Cet homme tente de créer une tempête dans un verre d’eau. Jusqu’au point à critiquer le bilinguisme car dans certaines circonstances le français est en premier dans une publicité. RIDICULE
Hungry for the Truth…. September 21, 2013 at 2:53 pm
“I’m BRIGHT enough to know that it equals to the same result.
Discrimination against the linguistic minority of Ontario”
If so figure out why English is not twice the size of french on Ontario signs then.
Why Unlike Quebec Ontario has two languages on their provincial signs and in equal size?
Why the quebec government for civil servents does not require bilingualism yet ontario does?
and so on and so on …..you really are blind to frenchification and Quebecs treatment of minorities
Hungry for the Truth…. September 21, 2013 at 3:08 pm
“NOTHING LIKE GETTING PERSONAL. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO DEBATING THE ISSUE NOT THE PERSON?”
Well that well explains your reference to kilroy as the king of rants and myself as king of inaccuracies of which the readers here have come to realize that you deserve that crown with the numerous proven faults of yours .
Not to worry there hungry your credability is tanked so there is no way but up for you!
Hey kilroy he is so much in deep denial but hey the nataionalist has that remarkable capacity of not comprehending logic and reasoning with their defense of Quebec’s discrimination.
Hungry for the Truth….actually should read BLIND TO THE TRUTH.
Kilroys numerous video’s are based on fact and news articles.
You may choose in your utter obedience to the separatist ideologies and become blind to facts ,data ,and reputable news references ,but the readers here are are independent of the separatist propaganda of which you are so devoted to.
Still never a utterence of a sour word from you,stella ,Richard towards the separatists that should be an awakening to all those readers out there.
@Hungry for the Truth….
RE: attempt to confuse the issue onSeptember 21, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Cory Cameron September 21, 2013 at 7:37 am
HFTT wrote, “Say I was a French Speaking Canadian, applying for a Public sector job in Ontario, would I be restricted in Ontario because I did not speak English?”
Cory wrote; “Yes, you would be. With unfair legislation requiring for the most part bilingualism for public sector jobs in Ontario, if ‘YOUR’ skillset was ‘ONLY’ considered out of linguistic factors and not ‘YOUR’ ability to do the job, then I would argue yes in fact you would be restricted only if you spoke French.”
The whole hypothetical question is inadmissible and WOULD BE VERY MUCH inadmissible in a court of law also.
ONCE AGAIN HFTT (AKA: Lives for lies) PLEASE get it straight.
“THESE TWO “LANGUAGE ISSUES WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF — THE COUNTRY OF CANADA” — ARE SIMPLY NOT DIRECTLY COMPARABLE. PERIOD … NOT COMPARABLE.
One is considered the main language of the the majority population in CANADA (THE COUNTRY) and the other is considered a local “province of Quebec language.”
NOTHING LIKE GETTING PERSONAL. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO DEBATING THE ISSUE NOT THE PERSON?
All bets are off Hungry. You tried VERY unsuccessfully i might add to hurt my character not too long ago with TOTALLY fabricated lies. Worse yet, you went whining to admin in your attempt.
When the FACT is YOU know, I KNOW and admin knows there was not ONE GRAIN OF RUTH in your accusation. So don’t be whining to me now as if you are totally innocent. I just happen to be more poignant cause i stick to the truth.
And on that note, i wish you a, “you can’t whine and get everything you want in this forum like the French powers that be have done to the country of Canada for the last 35 years” — deep breath — kind of day eh 🙂
PS
i am debating the issue. It’s just pissing you off that i am winning. And my “NEWS” videos PROVE it.
“concerned citizen 2
September 21, 2013 at 2:02 pm
@ the Pure Laines; Do you have your Quebec Passport yet???
http://www.passeportquebecois.com/”
HOLEEEEEEEE…
now we’ve seen it all haven’t we people?
And after the recent proposed “Quebec’s values charter” anyone using this BRIGHT SHINNY Blue “COUNTRY OF QUEBEC” passport need not venture to too many counties that are either Muslim or are Muslim friendly or for that matter human rights friendly.
This offers a new spirit to the idea of Canadians (and others from other nationalities –USA) putting the Canadian flag on the backpacks to stay safe abroad doesn’t it ?
Not more important EQUALLY important as you.
edudyorlik September 19, 2013 at 1:20 pm
“I Am Just A Limited Edition
We are no more equal to each other than
the French language and culture —
and
the English language and culture —
can be considered equal within the framework of the country called Canada.
THEY SIMPLY (just like you and I) ARE NOT COMPARABLE.
Richard tremblay September 21, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Oh and here is Richard who has agreed with segreagation
of french and english services since the beggining.
‘I agree HFTT. I guess when Kilroy has been proven wrong so many times, he just goes for personal attacks”
So show us the many times THERE MR SEPARATIST,OTHERWISE ITS HEARSAY.
http://www.amnesty.ca/news/news-releases/charter-of-quebec-values-prohibiting-all-government-employees-from-wearing-conspi
Amnesty international :But we strongly call on the Quebec government to withdraw this proposal to prohibit the wearing of any conspicuous religious symbols by government employees.”
Yes the world is watching ,and international media will hold our own media as well as our governments accountable .
Yes Canada does need another shaming to get our political leaders to take notice of more human rights violations in Quebec!
For within Canada as usuall nothing gets resolved but once again international pressure will hold Canada to task on its agreement to international human rights accords.
Hungry for the Truth….
September 21, 2013 at 3:44 pm
The French people =The French Government. = The same.
Your equation would lead one to believe that this new fancy Quebec Values Charter that is being put forth by the Quebec government, has the support of all French people. Would you make so bold a statement? Or does the equation only work in certain instances as needed?
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20130920180951
More and more news agencies picking up on the Quebec charter of values.
Good one highlander RE: your post on September 21, 2013 at 3:17 pm
highlander wrote to Hungry for truth,
“ your Aug 30 post blaming all the English speakers for Quebecs woes!”
Yes, this was the post that did it for me too higlander.
The true —
“Quebeccois” bill 101 is good even though we know it discriminates
AND
French MUST be protected at all costs , even if it means putting down other languages and cultures to do it
Certainly came out in that post and told me EVERYTHIGN i needed to know about Mr. Lives for lies (AKA: Truth)
Oh… That reminds me. A good friend of ours who is more well versed in the historical side of things than i am asked me to pass this little challenge along to you there Mr. Hungry for something.
——————————-
You mentioned “historical injustices of the past that had to be corrected by bill 101
Go ahead and name these injustices. And be specific with what they are and what sources you use to “supposedly : back up this claim of historical injustices.”
—————————–
Richard tremblay
September 21, 2013 at 3:48 pm
A restaurant menu, a 7up instead of a sprite, potato, potato. To slam one and not the other makes you look like a hypocrite.
RIDICULE!
*s*
Richard tremblay (the Calvary has arriveth)
RE`post on September 21, 2013 at 3:48 pm
But Richard. Please try to justify this denigrating treatment of these English people, the English language and of the Canadian flag for us… IN CANADA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GUkNVjM4Gc
AND THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JaKTF5Eu3g
AND THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBc5gzuHbKI
surly this CANNOT be justified in a country by supposed fellow countrymen.
While at the same time having a$$hole Thibideau demanding `special treatment outside of Quebec.
Hungry for the Truth…. September 21, 2013 at 3:31 pm
“Not the same at all. Reg 17 was to abolish french in Ontario. IOI has no intent to abolish English. It seeks correct historical injustices by preserving the use of French for the majority. Like Ontario has English as it’s Official language to preserve English
for the majority.”
Tell that to the English Quebecers that feel that the English language is being abolished in Quebec.So oppressing one language is right in the preservation of another…oh how separatist of you !
“You seem to be forgetting the FACT the tuition hikes were equally protested by ENGLISH students in Quebec. Not just FRENCH. The 3000 or so students that protested came from both linguistic representation”
There were tens of thousands of students in the streets and basically a token few english ,but this is not an english or french issue ,but the demands of free education at the cost of taxpayers.
“Show me where the transfer payments are used for day care. Transfer payments are not the source of payment for this PROVINCIAL SERVICE. More BS.”
Transfer payments the lions share more then 50% go to Quebec (le welfare province) .transfer payments are to facilitate equal social services within the prespective area’s.
So $7 day dare is a social program that all other provinces do not have or can afford or the lowest tuition rates of which the other provinces cannot afford either.
If it were not for the welfare check(transfer payments )Quebec could not afford these and many more social luxuries as the remaining provinces that heavily contribute to transfer payments cannot afford it either.
“You should run for politics. The French people are represented by their FRENCH government. It’s kind of hard of not blaming one without the other.”
The Quebec government represents not only french people but the nearly 2 million others of not french herritage.
Do we call the Ontario government the English government ?
But then it goes to prove that you do run on separatist ideologies!
We in Ontario have multiple ethnicities and except them willingly withought an attempt to assimilate ,but to melt and be part of and enrichen our society .
Unlike Quebec we do not consider them a PROBLEM!
YOU ARE A SEPARATIST THERE HUNGRY AND A VERY ETHNOCENTRIC ONE AT THAT !
The French people =The French Government. = The same.
Hungry for the Truth…. September 21, 2013 at 12:18 pm
“So I would be restricted In ONTARIO because I do not speak English.
So Ontario does DISCRIMINATES against French Speaking Canadians.?”
I would argue that yes, Ontario discriminates against unilingual French speaking people applying for jobs within the civil service. The same as it discriminates against unilingual English speaking people.
“WHY treat Quebec as a racist Province for laws that allegedly discriminates against it’s linguistic minority when Ontario allegedly is equally GUILTY of the same practises?”
Because Quebec and Ontario have in common the discrimination of choosing candidates based on language requirements for jobs within the civil service. I understand now too that the private job market is not immune to unfair bilingual job postings now too.
However, the provinces’ approach to language begins to differ when speaking of the practice of such. You will find no Bill 101 or 14 currently in practice in Ontario – restricting the use of the French language.
Quite the contrary, in Ontario you willl find private business owners in 4 Ontario municipalities bordering Quebec now having to print French marketing alongside English marketing signs. This is enforced by law I might add. (This, despite whether or not the business owners wishing to have English or French printed on their signs.) Here, check for yourself, HFTT:
http://www.nationmun.ca/en/signs.html
“Language
Except for the company name, all contents of new commercial signs must be bilingual. The dimensions and style of lettering must be identical in English and French.”
Try the same thing in Quebec…….
Doesn’t the law in Quebec state that French signage must be above and at least double the size of English signage?
Crazy isn’t it that the Business Owner cannot control the language type (let alone size of lettering on their signs) in any era let alone 2013!
So hence my earlier posting of this being a ‘Freedom of Expression’ issue.
i have never said i agreed with segregation howard. i’m sure you read only parts of our posts because i have proven that kilroy pics and choses parts of a story to fit his own agenda. he claims to have no problem with french speakers but promotes unilingualism. go figure. Peut-être que cet homme devrait se relire? Quand HFTT lui montre la lune, kilroy regarde son doigt.
Highlander September 21, 2013 at 4:14 pm
“If so figure out why English is not twice the size of french on Ontario signs then.”
It has to do with the history that you are BLIND to and deny King of Inaccuracies.
Back in the day, French was not so visible in downtown Montreal. American professor Marc Levine wrote in his 1990 book called The Reconquest of Montreal that “before 1960, although Montreal’s linguistic composition was predominantly French, its linguistic character was undeniably English. Montreal was the urban center of English Canada where downtown boardrooms functioned in English, the best neighbourhoods were inhabited by English-speakers, downtown was festooned with billboards and commercial signs in English.”
“Why Unlike Quebec Ontario has two languages on their provincial signs and in equal size?”
That is a half truth. Bilingual sign are only required in the 25 designated areas under the French Language Services Act of Ontario. Why are the signs on the Gardiner Expressway
unilingual while the QEW has bilingual signage in designated areas? Why are signs on municipal roads in French-designated areas not bilingual?
Equal size. The History of Ontario has never been invaded and dominated by the French minority. There is no need to have English protected as it is the de facto language of Ontario.
And French is not an official but a designated Service Language.
The history of The English majority of Ontario is not and has never been restricted of it’s use as the history of French in Quebec and French in Ontario.
“Why the quebec government for civil servents does not require bilingualism yet ontario does?”
MORE INACURATE BS. AS USUAL FROM THE KING OF INACCARACIES. And this is only one example. Education Act. Public Service Act. Etc…All require by law that services be available in English. More inaccuracies from the King of Inaccuracies.
“The Regional Programme of Access to Services in the English Language
Québec’s Health and Social Services Act requires all health institutions to provide their services in French.
However, because some people are more comfortable expressing their needs in English and wish to receive services in that language, the Act contains provisions making a range of health and social services available in English.
As a result, each health and social service agency must develop a programme of access to services in the English language specifying the obligations of institutions to make services available in English, in accordance with their human, material and financial resources and the relevant legislation (Sections 1, 4 and 29.1 of the Charter of the French Language).
In Montréal, 49 institutions are covered by this programme and must offer some or all of their services in English.”
September 21, 2013 at 4:37 pm
(AKA King of RANTS)
@Hungry for the Truth….
RE: attempt to confuse the issue onSeptember 21, 2013 at 12:18 pm
EdudyorlikCory Cameron September 21, 2013 at 7:37 am
HFTT wrote, “Say I was a French Speaking Canadian, applying for a Public sector job in Ontario, would I be restricted in Ontario because I did not speak English?”
“The whole hypothetical question is inadmissible and WOULD BE VERY MUCH inadmissible in a court of law also.”
There is no hypothetical question. It is ACTUAL. Many French Speaking Ontarian’s do not ACTUALLY qualify for jobs in Ontario is they do not speak English.
That is not Hypothetical. It’s an ACTUAL FACT OF PRACTISES.
“One is considered the main language of the the majority population in CANADA (THE COUNTRY) and the other is considered a local “province of Quebec language.”
Not so. FRENCH and ENGLISH are EQUALLY recognized under the The Constitution of Canada. AS BEING EQUAL.
NOTHING TO DO WITH “province of Quebec language.”.
Canada’s (THE COUNTRY) official Languages. FRENCH – ENGLISH.
English is the main language of Canada. French is the minority legally recognized language.
And has EQUAL meaning in the statues of law within the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Edudyorlik September 21, 2013 at 4:45 pm
“All bets are off Hungry. You tried VERY unsuccessfully i might add to hurt my character not too long ago with TOTALLY fabricated lies. Worse yet, you went whining to admin in your attempt.”
To hurt you character you the!AKA KING OF RANTS hahhAHAHAHHHAHha OMG. CHARACTER ooohoohohaho please. !!!!(AKA KING OF RANTS)What character…..???? hahhahhahashahahslolololololololoOMG.
“When the FACT is YOU know, I KNOW and admin knows there was not ONE GRAIN OF RUTH in your accusation. So don’t be whining to me now as if you are totally innocent. I just happen to be more poignant cause i stick to the truth.”
The worst is you believe yourself and your rhetoric bs. HahahhahhaHhahah. Keep CHARACTER BUILDING… …hahahah OM GREATNESS …..lolololo haha. Poor little baby is whining ……he did nothing wrong….not me…..hahahhah!!!!
“PS
“i am debating the issue. It’s just pissing you off that i am winning. And my “NEWS” videos PROVE it.”
Winning???? hahhahaHAHHHAHhahahha the only thing your winning is a place bellow the ratings of credibility. What your VIDEOS prove is you have come to believe
them. Keep BUILDING YOUR LACK of CHARACTER.
@Richard tremblay RE: POST on September 21, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Richard wrote, “i’m sure you read only parts of our posts because i have proven that kilroy pics and choses parts of a story to fit his own agenda.”
I don’t quite remember you having “proven” such a thing there Richard.
Richard wrote, “he claims to have no problem with french speakers but promotes unilingualism.”
What i actually promote Richard is fairness.
As it is now…
It is NOT FAIR for Quebec (and the French powers that be) to be doing things like outlawing the English language in the province of Quebec while at the very same time demanding —
(and having all Canadian tax payers being forced to pay such a thing to boot)
— that French be treated equally in all other parts of Canada.
(and in some cases as they continue to PUSH THE LIMITS having French treated as superior with French ONLY health care clinics and hospitals outside of Quebec also)
It is CLEAR TO ANYONE who takes even just a cursory look that the French are taking advantage of laws and a system that was put in place — JUST SO THEY COULD — TAKE ADVANTAGE of those laws and that system.
And I intend to do EVERYTHING I CAN to expose that FACT and the fact that the French powers that be (and those running the province of Quebec) are taking advantage of the ROC and all the Canadian tax payers. I will do everything i can to expose the unfairness and EXPOSE the inequity that exists in this country right now.
My only regret is that i didn’t start sooner. That can be blamed on the very noble traits that are inherent within most English people. Traits contained within the English which the French powers that be have been (AND dare I say it — ARE still) taking advantage of in THEEEE most sleazy types of ways…
For those many who claim the English have no culture to speak of, i contend that these inherent traits of aspiring to be fair and righteous are indeed part of a wonderful cultural sense which is ascribable to English “culture”
— A willingness to be fair and try to be equal and also to try to be humble in victory —
All things the English have offered the French. And all things the French have simply used to their advantage and found ways to take advantage of.
So, when i step back and look at these two “truths” i say to myself.
Yup.
We have one group (generally speaking of course which goes without saying in everything i write) — the English victors
— who could have simply pushed the French aside after defeating them in 1752 had they been that type, but didn’t
who have spent years trying to accommodate the French with inclusiveness of their language and culture into the CANADIAN WAY. Which was a wonderful concept considering that the French culture and language are wonderful in that sense.
BUTTTTT.
then we have the “other group” (again, generally speaking) — the French — who, as the defeated group have done nothing but take advantage of the good nature of the English to aggressively push their way into “pretending” that they deserve to be represented as “an equal HALF” of this nation and in the ROC while treating the English language and culture within their “little strong hold province” of Quebec as if it is a “foreign language” which was exemplified and highlighted when the education Minister of Quebec Marie Malavoy, herself referred to the English language as a foreign language… Gotta have balls for that one.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/10/12/pq-under-fire-after-minister-calls-english-a-foreign-language
back in October 2012
But, since it is Quebec and it is the French powers that be who are said such a thing …
It would seem yet once again, they get a pass on spewing such garbage.
Richard wrote, “Peut-être que cet homme devrait se relire? Quand HFTT lui montre la lune, kilroy regarde son doigt.”
Saying derogatory things to each other in French here is the epitome of low class and it’s insulting but, it would seem that seems these kinds of low life classless acts are in your French blood and thus, I would not expect much more from you and the agitator gang in this area.
We can at least be thankful that NOT all French people are like you(s)
And on that note, I would like to with you an “expose the cheats while finally STANDING UP FOR — and believing in — THE GREAT and FAIR minded ENGLISH CULTURE” kind of day eh 🙂
PS:
Speaking of cheats: That infamous Education Minister (Marie Malavoy) in Quebec that referred to the English language as — a foreign language — was forced to resign from Jacques Parizeau’s cabinet in November 1994 for alleged election fraud.
It turns out Malavoy wasn’t even a Canadian citizen for most of her adult life but still voted, illegally, in the 1980 sovereignty referendum as well as several provincial and federal elections.
NICE !!!
No corruption in that province 😉
Cory Cameron September 21, 2013 at 6:50 pm
“I would argue that yes, Ontario discriminates against unilingual French speaking people applying for jobs within the civil service. The same as it discriminates against unilingual English speaking people.”
Discrimination against French or against English still equals Discrimination.
WHY treat Quebec as a racist Province for laws that allegedly discriminates against it’s linguistic minority when Ontario allegedly is equally GUILTY of the same practises?
“However, the provinces’ approach to language begins to differ when speaking of the practice of such. You will find no Bill 101 or 14 currently in practice in Ontario – restricting the use of the French language.”
First their is no Bill 14. And equal practices are alive and well in Ontario. The official de facto language of Ontario is ENGLISH. That mere FACT in practice restricts the use of French in the Province. The French Language Service Act does not recognize French as an Official Language of Ontario. It designates French as a Service Language in 25 Regions.
“Quite the contrary, in Ontario you willl find private business owners in 4 Ontario municipalities bordering Quebec now having to print French marketing alongside English marketing signs.”
Other communities and Provinces have Sign by-laws and speak of Language. New Brunswick comes to mind. The By law does not only dictate language but also Style, Height, Images, Colours,
Placements, Construction, and Use requirements. Why isolate one requirement and demonize it. They are all equally restrictive from your point of view of restricting freedom of expression.
“Except for the company name, all contents of new commercial signs must be bilingual. The dimensions and style of lettering must be identical in English and French.”
“Try the same thing in Quebec…….”
If you erase an era from history this all seems senseless. There was a time that the signs in Montreal where English dominated and that French was not visible. But then again like I posted before most would rather erase this reality or blame the Church.
“Doesn’t the law in Quebec state that French signage must be above and at least double the size of English signage?”
The law does not abolish the use of English it regulates it’s use. English is allowed. Quebec’s linguistic majority is French. Quebec’s History is not comparable to Ontario’s linguistic History. Show me where Ontario ever had a dominance of French signs in
Toronto or Ottawa or Cornwall or Lancaster or Alexandria. Which is not the case in Quebec.
“Crazy isn’t it that the Business Owner cannot control the language type (let alone size of lettering on their signs) in any era let alone 2013!”
Crazy isn’t it that the French Business Owner could not control the language type in an era that was English dominated in the 60’s and 70’s.
Yup, id say… judging by this last message by Hungry for truth (AKA: Lives for lies)… There ain’t much left in the tank.
But, you should still at least — try —
to have a nice “stress free” day eh Hungry 🙂 Maybe some meds would help…
Hungry for the Truth…. September 22, 2013 at 9:47 am
Edudyorlik September 21, 2013 at 4:45 pm
“All bets are off Hungry. You tried VERY unsuccessfully i might add to hurt my character not too long ago with TOTALLY fabricated lies. Worse yet, you went whining to admin in your attempt.”
To hurt you character you the!AKA KING OF RANTS hahhAHAHAHHHAHha OMG. CHARACTER ooohoohohaho please. !!!!(AKA KING OF RANTS)What character…..???? hahhahhahashahahslolololololololoOMG.
“When the FACT is YOU know, I KNOW and admin knows there was not ONE GRAIN OF RUTH in your accusation. So don’t be whining to me now as if you are totally innocent. I just happen to be more poignant cause i stick to the truth.”
The worst is you believe yourself and your rhetoric bs. HahahhahhaHhahah. Keep CHARACTER BUILDING… …hahahah OM GREATNESS …..lolololo haha. Poor little baby is whining ……he did nothing wrong….not me…..hahahhah!!!!
“PS
“i am debating the issue. It’s just pissing you off that i am winning. And my “NEWS” videos PROVE it.”
Winning???? hahhahaHAHHHAHhahahha the only thing your winning is a place bellow the ratings of credibility. What your VIDEOS prove is you have come to believe
them. Keep BUILDING YOUR LACK of CHARACTER.
Edudyorlik September 21, 2013 at 5:15 pm
Not more important EQUALLY important as you.
edudyorlik September 19, 2013 at 1:20 pm
“I Am Just A Limited Edition
“We are no more equal to each other than
the French language and culture — and the English language and culture – can be considered equal within the framework of the country called Canada.”
CANADA HAS A BILINGUAL FRAME WORK FRECH – ENGLISH
EQUALLY LEGALLY RECOGNIZED.
And hence the problem is revealed. The TRUTH has surfaced from this one a of kind…lack of respect for the LAWS…Limited edition character.
THEY SIMPLY (just like you and I) ARE NOT COMPARABLE.
I don’t need you to confirm that we are not comparable.
The readers already know I would never compare myself
to a CHARACTER of your allure.
@yorlik…..After reading the posts from the last few days, I figured out your problem. You have an “entitlement” lifetrap which can be treated with a little introspection and the will to change.
If you are not too busy looking for you tube videos, read up on it….it may help you.