Pastor Tom Newton on Bill 77 – Letter to the Editor – April 3, 2015

Pastor Tom Newton on Bill 77 – Letter to the Editor – April 3, 2015

LTE UQueen’s Park is at it again in its support of sexual diversity. It is Bill 77 this time.

Bill 77 – “a bill that would ban therapy to ‘convert” gay and transgender children and youth….”, and even deny “OHIP coverage of conversion or therapy for adults intended to change their sexual orientation or gender identity”1. The bill is reported to have passed its second reading 52-0. Question – why no opposing votes? The bill’s creator NDP Cheri DiNovo – “The Radical Reverend” – had this to say: “In a rare moment, members from all three parties threw their support behind DiNovo’s bill giving it all party support.” Should we applaud, or bow our heads in shame?

Why is there no opposing voice from any party? The ramifications of the eventual passing of this bill will seal the doom for many of these confused ones in their sinful sexual orientation unless God’s grace intervenes. It will also make it illegal to try to convert these confused ones from the error of their way. Will this bill be used only to keep “doctors” in line, or will it also be used effectively to stop all evangelistic efforts of Christians? Another nail in the coffin for religious freedom in Canada.

In all this talk about gender equality, I have not heard of a gay gene being discovered. It will never be discovered. We are not created sexual deviants, but we fall into such sexual perversion by our voluntary rejection of God (Genesis 3). The Creator of all clearly declares “it is better if they were “straight”:

“Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled; but God will judge fornicators and adulterers (Hebrews 13:4).

And, yes, I agree that society needs fixing, but not by forcing Bill 77 upon us. Nor by implementing the New Ontario Sex Ed. Curriculum. Where is our liberty of conscience? Where is our freedom of religion? Is it the government’s job to try to “fix society”? The economic debauchery and the many past scandals of the current Liberal government speaks loud and clear how the current administration has repeatedly failed to “fix society”.

Shall we allow Bill 77 to seal the doom for such confused sexually-orientated ones? Shall we eliminate all voice of reason and right? I’m still waiting for the local Ontario opposition parties to respond as to why there is no voice of opposition. I wrote to them, “Are these results agreeable to you? If not, why the silence? It is time to stop being puppets who are only concerned with political correctness and economical prosperity, and start being the real voices for the people. Leadership with moral convictions – is that too much to ask?”.

Is that too much to ask?

Rev. Thomas J. Newton

1 Antonella Aruso, QMI Agency

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mary bray
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Maybe we need a bill for these poor confused righteous leaders who think that God did not makes these people exactly how their journey should be

Hugger1
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So, your continual attack on a person’s right to choose the way they live and choose their sexual preference continues. I’m not surprised.

If you don’t like it here Indiana is always an option.

Furtz
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Unbelievable! Well, maybe not. Newton actually believes that taxpayers (OHIP) should fund the cure for homosexuality! If it wasn’t so sick and sad, it would be funny.

jules
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Pastor Newton society is mighty sick in the head these days and people have lost their moral ground – they are morally and spiritually bankrupt. Some people see Bruce Jenner converting to a woman – he is one ugly looking woman. I blame Hollywood aka Hollyweird a mighty sinful, godless, sin city of insanity that perverted the weak minded. I am so mighty happy that I do not have young children in school nor any grandchildren because I would literally remove them from the schools. I get down on my knees and than the Good Lord that I don’t have… Read more »

jules
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Furtz OHIP should not fund transvestides at all and in the US Bruce Jenner along with others in his situation pay their own way and are not covered by any insurance. This is mighty sick and perverted. I was shocked when I saw Sonny and Cher’s beautiful little girl converting into a man. I still cannot get over that at all and Sonny would be rolling over in his grave to know that. Something is very wrong with these people as well as those of the general population. In past years you would hear about men as homosexuals but they… Read more »

tnpreacher555
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Mary: the Bible records that mankind in Adam chose to rebel. According to the inspired record, God created Adam upright – holy, righteous, and having the ability with all the grace given to him to do right, but he chose not to. It is not God’s fault Adam chose to believe a lie. Now, we as Adam’s descendents must live out that lie by God’s just degree. “In Adam all died…”(1 Cor. 15:22). Sexual diversity or better yet biblical derivation from God’s norm is a sinful life choice! A continuation of Adam’s rebellion he started in the garden. God drove… Read more »

tnpreacher555
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Wrong Furtz – one is not cured of homosexuality, it is not a disease, like the common cold! Sexual diversity or better yet biblical derivation from God’s norm is a sinful life choice!

jules
Guest

You are absolutely right Pastor and there is something in the Bible about that particular subject but things are written in strange ways where very few can decifer it. Yes Furtz you go against nature and you pay the penalty that God will dish out. When God does show Himself to the world people will still be in denial and He will show His furry to the world.

jules
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Pastor Furtz keeps asking about the talking snake not knowing or just pulling your leg. The talking snake represents the devil and the devil tempted Adam and Eve into sinning. They chose the wrong tree of life and it is about if you choose this tree you will be gods and live forever. Well they chose the wrong path and God punished them and that is why today we all die. If I was able to go into a bit of this but it is long and complicated. I listened to a man some years ago explain so much and… Read more »

Furtz
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And down the rabbit-hole we go…..
Carry on folks.

Paul Mark
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Pastor Tom, Do you agree with everything the bible says ? Or do you pick and chose what’s valid in your arguements at the time? Better yet do you believe the bible is infallible ?

David Oldham
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Pastor Tom we are not perfect. A missing chromosome is all it takes not a “gay gene”. Live and let live Pastor Tom, God would approve.

tnpreacher555
Member

But David it remains for you to prove to me and to the world that such is the case. Speculation like the belief in evolution, and in a “missing chromosome” takes a kind of faith that many would classify as a religion. And as for God approving of such wickedness, or nonsense, His Word continues to speak loud and clear in condemnation, though we have purposely stopped our ears in rebellion.

mary bray
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The Bible was written some 200 years after Christ,only talked about before that by illiterate followers & their descendants,was later put to paper & scrolls of the day,translated into different languages,some destroyed through time ,some embellished.To think that God would turn against any of his children is crazy,He loves them all.People should be able to love whomever,it is their God given right.They are not sinners for following their path to happiness,actually all gays that I know are beautiful smart & some very talented people who have learned to fight to be all they can be.Too bad that there is so… Read more »

mary bray
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I agree with you admin, wouldn,t it be a better world if we all could accept the differences of others,even when different from ourselves , live & let live

David Oldham
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Pastor Tom mapping the human genome was a 13 year project that launched in 1990 I believe and was completed in 2003. DNA sequencing is fact, not fiction or fairy tale. It is not up to me to prove anything Pastor Tom, that has already been done. The difficultly for you is that your choice of religion restricts your ability to accept scientific data as factual (we are not discussing “junk science” like rising seas, man made climate change etc).

David Oldham
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Human sexuality Pastor Tom is governed by two factors; genetics and choice. If God made man Pastor Tom then God is responsible for our genetic make up and our free will (reasoning). The conclusion derived then is that God made us what we are, flawed. Warts and all if God is love, then God loves all, gays, lesbians, transsexuals, transgendered and yes even heterosexuals. Life is not limited to our sexuality, that would be a rather shallow viewpoint, but rather encompasses our very existence and our continual challenge to survive and (gulp) evolve. You might be more comfortable with the… Read more »

Furtz
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What is really disgusting and unforgivable is some one using a whacko religion as an excuse to make life miserable for others. Being consumed by hate is a mental disease, and there is therapy for that.

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tnpreacher555
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David – yes all of our reasoning is flawed, lets say “spiritual blinded” just like the Bible says, but the simple fact of divine revelation declares – God did not make us flawed! The Bible not only records the creation of all things which God pronounced as “good”, but also the fall of mankind into spiritual darkness(Gen. 3), which God calls foolishness. Divine revelation does not need scientific verification.

I suppose with your blinded, warped reasoning, you could say God loves all those in hell right now too!

jules
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Yes people should be treated equally and fairly but unfortunately people are not treated in that way. I will try to get away from gays and make an example of how things are not fair. Take a good look at people’s race and see how black people are treated and always have been and the same goes for the Jews along with others. Gays always hid themselves never to be known except among their own kind. You would all be shocked to know who is gay and very famous here in Canada and married and children and living a double… Read more »

tnpreacher555
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Jules:”Yes folks it is entirely different and you sure get lost in the translation”. Sorry Jules, this not so! On the human side that can be so, but God promised that His Word would be preserved without error for all generations to come. One might say that is impossible? Is it impossible for God to create all things, the world, all living things out of nothing? By the word of His command. How about the miracle of the virgin birth? Pretty impossible when looking at just the human side of things. The virgin birth is a miracle. How about the… Read more »

tnpreacher555
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Thank you Jamie – hope you had a good Passover!

Furtz
Member

“So why do we hate this Word, the Holy Bible?”
I think it’s because people’s tolerance for BS is dropping as the population becomes more educated. That plus the endless bigotry and nastiness that seems to come with the package.
Happy Easter everybody!

Hugger1
Member

I’m trying to stay out of this one. I’ll let David Oldham and Furtz tackle PTN and Jules. When PTN goes on one of his rants, and then backed up by Jules I find it best to just sit in the corner and let the others have their “fun.”

Paul Mark
Guest

So if we go by what Pastor Tom believes I worked today so as per Exodus 35:2 “On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the sabbath of complete rest to the LORD. Anyone who does work on that day shall be put to death.” I guess I better go kill myself cause the bible is infallible right. I have had my own experiences with the Holy Spirit but I don’t believe the God I pray hates me or anyone else. I believe the God I believe in loves us all,… Read more »

Furtz
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Hugger, it’s like playing Whack A Mole. Whenever bigotry and intolerance rears it’s ugly head, it has to be whacked.

David Oldham
Guest

Pastor Tom the flaw was freedom of choice. What did Adam do in the garden of Eden but exercise his God given gift of freedom of choice. Get out your bible Pastor Tom and tell me otherwise.

tnpreacher555
Member

That’s right David, Adam exercised freedom of choice, which boils down to that he was a free agent(not a robot or a puppet). But after the fall, when the principal of sin entered into Adam’s nature – the belief of Satan’s lie: “ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil” now ruled Adam’s heart, soul and mind. The inspired account records for us the change that occurred in Adam’s nature – from a son and a lover of righteousness to slave to Satan and a lover of sin -darkness(Gen. 3). So since the fall, we, Adam’s offspring, we know… Read more »

Hugger1
Member

Now, “Whack A Mole” I can do.

tnpreacher555
Member

It’s said how “mole whackers” love to live in the dark. I guess it is just their nature – like a mole.

Furtz
Member

One of the cool things about moles is that they don’t spend their lives promoting bigotry and hate.

David Oldham
Guest

So your interpretation of the bible tells you that children are conceived out of sin into sin, offspring of the damned so to speak? That man is shrouded in wickedness until death provided that forgiveness has been sought and granted?

You may succumb to wickedness and evil and to the desires
of the flesh Pastor Tom but fortunately I am blissfully enjoying the life I have been granted, I make a concerted effort to be respectful to all, I rely heavily on my ability to reason and I acknowledge that there are forces greater than man.

tnpreacher555
Member

David – what the Word of God says of all includes you -“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God…” (Rom. 3:23). Sinners can not atone for sins committed no matter what the religion they trust in. And since you are fallen also in Adam -“…. for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become… Read more »

Furtz
Member

David, Mr Newton is dedicating his life to spread the good word of his loving god.
Is that better Jamie?

jules
Guest

Mr. Oldham I being an RC can tell you that yes children are born in sin and that is what I learned from Cathechism since the Bible is not taught to we Christians. In French we call it “la tache original” in English “the original sin” and yes Pastor Newton is right indeed. So many people jump down Pastor’s back but he is telling all of you the truth. No it isn’t the fault of the babies born but all mortals are born with that sin. Only Jesus and Mary have escaped that sin. The rest of us are here… Read more »

David Oldham
Guest

Furtz God so loved the world he condemned those to hell who do not recognize his love. Does that even make sense? There must be a kinder gentler God hovering around somewhere. Perhaps the Cayman Islands or Bora Bora, one can hope. Hell must be a little crowded.

Hugger1
Member

Jules, Jules, Jules….

Furtz
Member

David, just stick with The Flying Spaghetti Monster and all will be well. The rules don’t permit me to express my disgust with Newton and his toxic preaching.

Furtz
Member

Challenging bigotry and hate can not always be handled delicately.

jules
Guest

Pastor Newton is quoting the Bible and I learned that in Cathechism in elementary school in French. All Protestant churches have their own laws but are all Christian. All those denominations including the Orthodox Christians of the Middle East are a breakoff of the Catholic church and all what Pastor is quoting is the absolute truth. If people here do not believe in Jesus or God then it means that you are atheist. The Pastor is trying to save souls and he is a good man. There are so many people who broke off from the faith and today the… Read more »

Furtz
Member

Yes Jules, a lot of homophobic people turn to religion to back up their views. You are not alone, obviously. As a devout Pastafarian and ordained Dudeist priest, I still consider myself a born-again atheist.

tnpreacher555
Member

David writes -“God so loved the world he condemned those to hell who do not recognize his love”. Such a statement describes your twisted sinful mindset and reasoning, but not God’s at all. God’s revelation, His standard, the Word of God declares something totally different than your misconception and misrepresentation. That is why the Scriptures tell us – “God is light, and in him is no darkness at all”. Sinners are judged for their sins that they have committed against God’s will – The Ten Commandments. To love God is the fulfill the Law, but since we are fallen sinners,… Read more »

Furtz
Member

No Newton, I don’t give a rat’s donkey what you or anyone else believes. I know all kinds of people who subscribe to all kinds of religions who are very fine people. What I object to and find repulsive, are cowardly bigots who use religion (any religion) as a club with which to bash whoever they happen to hate. And you, sir, have been doing exactly that incessantly for years.