Gay Marriage Ban Lifted in California by Markus Noé – Ottawa Ontario – August 5, 2010

Ottawa ON – American conservatives against gay marriages were dealt a blow yesterday in California. With the states decision to overturn its ban on gay marriages, it has brought this politically charged issue back to the forefront of American politics.

Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker received huge support from gay rights activists and their supporters with his ruling. Even the Governor himself Arnold Schwarzenegger took a break from his revitalized movie career to describe the ruling “as a step toward freedom and equality.”

Walker was forced into a ruling after two gay couples believed that their constitutional rights had been violated by the ban. During the former U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson’s closing arguments he said this of the ban, “it vindicates the rights of a minority of our citizens to be treated with decency and respect and equality in our system.”

While gay couples and their supporters celebrated a major victory across the nation, gay marriages are still not permitted in California. According to Judge Walker, both sides have until Friday to submit new arguments on whether the ruling should stand.

Unfortunately for gay activists an appeal can be made. A group with conservative ties called “Protect Marriage” said it would appeal the ruling to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

After the Supreme Court legalized gay marriages in 2009, 18,000 couples were married over five months. Then came the controversial Proposition 8 vote which narrowly passed ending the marriages. The supporters of Proposition 8 maintain that this is the only way to protect traditional marriages and child bearing.

It is interesting how a state that prides itself on being progressive in so many ways. Still lags far behind when it comes to the equal rights of its gay citizens.

What do you think?

I can be contacted at markus.noe@live.com

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32 Responses to "Gay Marriage Ban Lifted in California by Markus Noé – Ottawa Ontario – August 5, 2010"

  1. tnpreacher555   August 5, 2010 at 7:16 AM

    “A federal judge on Wednesday overturned a California ban on same-sex marriage, ruling that the Proposition 8 ballot initiative was unconstitutional. The ruling by U.S. District Judge Vaugh Walker, one of three openly gay federal judges in the country, gave opponents of the controversial Proposition 8 ballot a major victory” – Published August 04, 2010| Fox News.com

    What every happen to “we the people…”?. Of course Judge Walker was unbiased in his judgment – right! – “…one of three openly gay federal judges in the country”. I guess President Lincoln was wrong when he said -“…and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”. Judge Walker proved Lincoln wrong – what judicial abuse of power!

    Fox News goes on to say -“Despite the favorable ruling for same-sex couples, gay marriage will not be allowed to resume. That’s because the judge said he wants to decide whether his order should be suspended while the proponents pursue their appeal in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.” So the battle is not over – Praise the Lord for His mercy! Pro 14:34 “Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people”. Link for Fox News: [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/04/federal-judge-overturns-californias-sex-marriage-ban/]

    No matter what our or any other government rules, in the end God’s judgment will stand, and all will have to give an account – Lev 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination”.

    1Co 6:9 -11 “Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God”.

    “…shall not inherit the kingdom of God” – this means that such will go into judgment as unrepentant sinners into the Lake of fire. The hope for all -“…And such were some of you”. God can change the worse of sinners – Repent and believe the Gospel. Amen!

  2. Reg   August 5, 2010 at 8:01 AM

    “Gay Marriage Ban Lifted in California by Markus Noé ”

    Wow Marcus, I am impressed. You can do that? You must have some pretty powerful friends in California.

  3. admin   August 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM

    Tom did you just quote Fox News on our paper? Now that definitely shows how open we are 🙂

  4. markus   August 5, 2010 at 11:53 AM

    thank you reg for recognizing my powers lol 🙂

  5. Furtz A. Bootbomb   August 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM

    I’m sure that these people who constantly obsess about the sexuality of others have serious sexual issues themselves. Why else would they give a rats ass about it?

  6. tnpreacher555   August 5, 2010 at 5:33 PM

    It is all for the honor and glory of God – biblical marriage, biblical families, and yes, biblical sexuality. Furtz when is the last time you did any thing for the sake of God’s honor? Even honor in serving one’s country is a thing of the past, hopefully not in your eyes.

    I am not obsess with others sexuality, but sexuality is a vital part of marriage, family, don’t you think? Our heritage concerning family life, the sanctity of marriage has brought about a lot of stability to Canada. Divorce, premarital sex, pornography, and the acceptance of homosexuality has done much damage to the family, and our youth are suffering for it. The confusion found in our youth over their sexuality is one of the major causes of suicide. The youth of our day are having sex like rabbits, and dropping like flies, and all you can say is -“Why else would they give a rats ass about it?” Shame one you!

    And by the way, this year my wife and I will be celebrating our 25 wedding anniversary. To some I know, my wife and I are still newly weds. We have been serious Christians all of these 25 years, and hope that the good Lord will grant us many more years. I am thankful for my faithful, loving wife and I thank the Lord for all my children that He has given to me. You can’t image the type of miracle this is, not knowing the wicked lifestyle I lived before He saved me by His grace.

  7. admin   August 5, 2010 at 6:22 PM

    Hi Tom,

    Congrats on being married 25 years. I’m working on my third year with my wife, and my hats off to anyone that can make it work as long as you and your wife have. My parents were married over 30 years before my dad died, and both sets of grand parents out lived each other. We live in a frivolous world where marriage and divorce come too easy and are taken for granted as the institutions they were meant to be.

    That being said anyone that fully is willing to cherish another in the state of matrimony I feel should have that opportunity. California leads the world again in helping to set trends that will ultimately be followed.

  8. tnpreacher555   August 5, 2010 at 6:54 PM

    jamie: it is still a matter of the honor and glory of God – biblical marriage, biblical families, and yes, biblical sexuality. Civil unions will never be a “state of matrimony” – “What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder” (Matt.19:6). To obey Him is to love Him and honor Him. In this honoring, God blesses. Whether it is 3 yrs or 25, the blessing lies in living for His honor.

    Those who have long marriages, and live without God’s presence and blessing in their marriage, miss out on so much! Words can not describe it! They might ascribe their longevity to all kinds of things, and reasons, but it is just this: marriage between a man and a women lived in fidelity is God’s way of doing things! It is because of His great goodness as Creator that such marriage last so long. May the good Lord bless your marriage, in spite of your secular/ungodly view point.

  9. The Watcher   August 5, 2010 at 7:53 PM

    Quote: The confusion found in our youth over their sexuality is one of the major causes of suicide.

    That’s right, Tom. I hope you’re proud of what you and other intolerant bigots like you are causing. Don’t forget, God makes people who and what they are, and that includes heterosexual or homosexual, and all your ranting and raving isn’t going to do anything except drive otherwise vulnerable people away from the God you claim to serve, and into such despair that suicide seems like the only option.

    As you said in an earlier post, “sticks and stones….” Total f******g bullshit Tom. Words might not break bones, they do far worse. They can break someone’s mind and spirit, especially if they can’t cling to God for support the way you claim.

  10. Furtz A. Bootbomb   August 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM

    Well, there you go. I’ve been living with my partner since about ’84 too. We never got around to having our union blessed by any church (cult). Does this mean that my partner and I will be roasting in hell after the lightning bolt strikes?

  11. tnpreacher555   August 5, 2010 at 8:55 PM

    “God makes people who and what they are, and that includes heterosexual or homosexual” – Not true, for the Word of God says -Lev 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination”. God does not make “abominations”; we choose to be “abominations”.

    Yes, the suicide rate among sodomites is high. It is not that society does not accept them – see how our ungodly society is wholeheartedly accepting them in our day, but they are still sad, depressed, and suicidal. Why? It is that they can not accept themselves, and their God given consciences will not let them alone – wrong is wrong no matter how one defines it. It is not over socializing, it is just old fashion sin, and sin will always bring guilt! It is the guilt of one’s sins that drives such to despair and suicide. Plus one must not rule out the intense desire of Satan to destroy all of us.

    God’s remedy for a sin sick heart? The only Savior given to mankind: the Lord Jesus Christ says “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light”(Mat 11:28 -30). The Lord Jesus came to save His people from their sins, and not in their sins. “Go and sin no more” is what the Lord Jesus said to the woman taken in adultery – John 8. Freedom from a sinful lifestyle will always bring peace, joy, and true love, as one is brought into a living, saving relationship with the God of Heaven and earth. And this can only be done as one surrenders to King Jesus by faith.

  12. The Watcher   August 5, 2010 at 9:28 PM

    Yeah, whatever Tom. You know what? You remind me of the Pharisee who stood in the temple, praising and thanking God for making him as he was, and not like the other poor bastards.

    Why don’t you go away into a desert for forty days, alone, and pray to God to show you how you really are?

    But that won’t happen, will it? You know everything.

  13. tnpreacher555   August 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM

    Watcher: No I don’t know everything but this one thing I do know – like all Christians : “For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified” (1Co 2:2).

  14. JasonM   August 6, 2010 at 7:40 AM

    Let’s keep god and religion out of it…. has anyone ever researched history to see iif any eugenics movements are behind the push for equality and encouraging gay rights, similar to how the womens rights movement was funded by the rockerfellers in order disturb the family… just a thought….

  15. tnpreacher555   August 6, 2010 at 9:19 AM

    “Let’s keep god and religion out of it….”– Nice try Jason. We are created by God and therefore moral being answerable to God – Lev 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination”.

  16. PJR   August 6, 2010 at 9:33 AM

    Watcher, JasonM et al: tnpreacher555 has an excellent handle on quotations. It’s his attitude to human beings here and now that is troubling. In my view too close to George W. Bush: “Either you are with us or your’e against us.”— A logical fallacy, and narrowness of outlook, that has caused humankind terrible grief over time. BTW, what does the preacher, or his biblical sources, know of genetics?

  17. Furtz A. Bootbomb   August 6, 2010 at 10:50 AM

    PJR, I will say this for the preacher; As misguided and fanatical as he is, he hasn’t been personally responsible for the misery and slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people, as Dubya was.

  18. tnpreacher555   August 6, 2010 at 10:55 AM

    What does PJR know about creation? Or the God of Creation? God knows all about genetics!

    Just to add to Jason’s post – Jason it has never been a civil rights issue! Many true race minorities are highly offended at gays high jacking the civil rights moment. To equate the woman’s suffrage movement of the early 1900’s with the diversity movement of gays in our day is like comparing apples to oranges – they are just not the same, not even close!. It is not a civil rights issue it is a moral issue.

  19. The Watcher   August 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM

    Preacher, if you had have been born 100 years earlier, in Germany, you’d have been in your natural element, quoting chapter and verse about how the Jews were a plague. 50 years ago, in the southern US, and it would have been chapter and verse about how God wanted segregation, and for black people to ride in the back of the bus. Several hundred years ago, and you would have joined the Inquisition.

    Why don’t you move to Iran? It’s your kind of society and you’d love to go to the public hangings of so-called criminals and homosexuals.

  20. PJR   August 6, 2010 at 12:59 PM

    Wow! Who needs logic or reason, when you have a hotline to the Big Guy?

  21. geolicious   August 6, 2010 at 2:01 PM

    Why are so many americans so worked up about the word marriage only being used for heterosexuals when more than 50% of marriages in the states end in divorce?

    Don’t forget… the bible also says “judge not lest you be judged”. There isn’t a christian out there that has never committed a crime, unless of course he or she is too young! What makes you think you’re any better than anyone else?

  22. Furtz A. Bootbomb   August 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM

    It’s just a case where a (thankfully) small lunatic fringe is trying to impose its rules on the rest of the population. The pastor has no morals, just a pile of stupid rules out of one seriously flawed book.

  23. tnpreacher555   August 6, 2010 at 2:22 PM

    Geolicious: “judge not lest you be judged” Where is that found in the Bible?

  24. Jason   August 6, 2010 at 3:32 PM

    God is dead

  25. Furtz A. Bootbomb   August 6, 2010 at 5:37 PM

    The Gospel according to St. Luke
    6Mt. 7.1-5 37 ¶ Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
    Sweet Jesus! The preacher has me posting a passage from his stupid book!
    I’m gonna sit on the porch for a while with a couple of beers, and try to regain my sanity.

  26. tnpreacher555   August 6, 2010 at 5:38 PM

    Who says? by the authority of Jason. Who is Jason that I should, or anyone for that matter, believe a mere mortal. At lease give me a “thus sayeth the Lord…”

  27. Jason   August 7, 2010 at 8:36 AM

    @preacher just because the bible is a few thousand year old doesn’t make it credible. It is interesting how closed minded religious people can become… Then again religion was never really about enlightenment, but rather a way for the few to control the masses around a particular ideal that enslaved their mind to question reality instead of blindly believing a book of fiction

  28. geolicious   November 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM

    The bible was written by men and is continually being misinterpreted by men to suit their own desires.
    Preacher – You’re the bible thumper. You find it.
    There never was a god. It’s just a story created by men to control others with fear.

  29. tnpreacher555   November 3, 2010 at 4:17 PM

    August 7 to November 3. Long time to think about what to write? Hmmn geolicious?

  30. geolicious   February 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    @preacher, my mind races with things to tell ignorant people but I prefer to step back and ignore them instead.

  31. Reg Coffey   February 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Did anyone put out an amber alert for Marcus? He seems to be missing. Haven’t heard from him for quite a while.

  32. admin   February 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    He’s probably still hard at work on his blog 🙂

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