Big Losers in Quebec Election Are Anglophones – Editorial by Jamie Gilcig – September 4, 2012

Big Losers in Quebec Election Are Anglophones – Editorial by Jamie Gilcig – September 4, 2012

CFN –  With rumblings of tonight’s election giving Pauline Marois a government of some sort the biggest losers will be Anglophone Quebecers.

Ms. Marois and her party have already stated some very punitive actions to come in a PQ government, but even if only a minority government surely the limits will be pushed on the language issue as a cat and mouse political game would ensure until the next election.

Short of pulling an upset victory this should spell the end of Jean Charest’s political career which leaves a gap and opportunity for the Provincial Liberals.  Likewise it looks like the CAC will be doing better than they probably thought which means what’s next for the party who could be a King or Queen maker.   Anyone remember Rodrigue Biron?

Bottom line is that Quebec will be embroiled in the politics that have hurt it for over forty years; the politics of language.  Instead of fixing highways the province will be burning bridges with its neighbors.

How do you think the election will finish?  You can post your comments below.

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78 Responses to "Big Losers in Quebec Election Are Anglophones – Editorial by Jamie Gilcig – September 4, 2012"

  1. Le Renard bleu   September 4, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    I think that the election will finish positively… for all Quebeckers.

    Seriously, Mr. Gilcig, have you no other topic to cover? As I know you, you will write one more editorial about this election tomorrow and the day after as well.

  2. admin   September 4, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    Maybe 3 or 4 Renard bleu 🙂

  3. Cory Cameron   September 4, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    PQ all the way!

  4. Patrick Boucher   September 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    renard… c’est vrai. but my prediction 73% voter turnout. majority for the P.Q. but a slim one. there will be some talk about a referendum tonight but pauline wouldnt dare do anything more… she won’t shoot herself in the foot.

  5. admin   September 4, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    Patrick have you heard some of what she’s said this campaign? If she wins as is expected this isn’t a win for Ms Marois; it’s a loss for Mr. Charest and the end of his political career.

  6. Patrick Boucher   September 4, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    I would bet he is going to lose his seat. He should have prepared or groomed a replacement ..just in case. I hope mr charest wins…but i’m a realist…i doesnt look good.

  7. Mike Bedard   September 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    Sometimes you need to learn the hard way!

    Maybe Quebec needs someone like the PQ to show them exactly what NOT to DO!

    However, if Quebec did seperate the rest of Canada would be better financially but not culturally!

    If the equalization payments where cut tomorrow the PQ would be mightly impaired and cuts to tuition subsidizes would be the least of Quebecers worries!

  8. Highlander   September 4, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    PQ majority , many hope…..but it sends a message to the rest of the country.Either way tyranny of the majority will occur.

  9. Cory Cameron   September 4, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    Please make it a majority win!!!!!

  10. Colleen McIntosh   September 4, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Think, it will be a slight PQ majority…maybe a majority by three seats or so.

    Sad day for the English minority in Quebec:(

  11. JaneDoe   September 4, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    @ Cory! It will not be a majority unless a coalition is formed… We do not want a majority win!

  12. Patrick Boucher   September 4, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Mike, disagree, I don’t think it would be better financially. Canada would lose alot without Québec but, Québec would do very well without Canada. One thing I believe, and it may just be my heart talking, we can get along, Il faut mettre de l’eau dans son vin…des deux côtés.

  13. mcsmarty   September 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

    If anyone thinks for a second that Canada would be worse off with the whiny seperatists of quebec but quebec would be better off without Canada, they should dig their head out of their asses!!!

    If quebec did seperate, who would they bitch and complain about then? EACH OTHER most likely, but as a settlement, you guys can have the natives too and then you can complain to each other how hard done by you are!!!

  14. edudyorlik   September 5, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    A few thoughts…
    I watched plenty of news coverage of that farce of an election in the “province” of Quebec and not once did I get the distinct feeling that any of those “talking head” so called broadcast news folk had any sense of disgust or abhorrence towards these “separatist” parties who’s only mandate is to restrict the English language and make life much more difficult for their/our fellow Canadians within a “province” which is, after all, still within the country of CANADA. They just kept carrying on as if that is a normal — just peachy keen — kinda thing.

    Further more, I even heard some saying the CAQ was not a separatist party. IS there something I am missing here? The CAQ plainly said, “WE DO WANT to separate but we think it’s best to wait 10 more years.”

    C’mon people. We MUST wake up and realize. He was not saying he DOES NOT want to separate. He was/is saying, “let’s wait another 10 years.” The reality is, the only reason there is a suggestion that they wait another 10 years is so that they will be more financially and otherwise prepared with 10 more years of transfer payments under their belt from the ROC and also the ROC footing the bill for even more highways and federal government buildings in that “province” thus making it more feasible and lucrative for them to have waited.

    It’s like the spoiled kid living in the basement of his parents’ house biding his time and saving his money while mooching food and free accommodations from “his struggling parents.” Eventually he saunters up the stairs and to the horror of the parents he proclaims, “See ya… I’m outta here… I have saved enough money now to buy myself a nice new red sports car and be able to live comfortably for a long time so, I don’t need you guys anymore, ciao” and with that, he moves out.

    Right… Is that what we want? To be used and abused as they bide there time so that it will be a much better prospect for them to do what they are going to do anyways and leave some time down the road. Let’s face it; it’s definitely something they want. There is no doubt about that. They have proven it now by electing our hero, P. Marois. Why not go along with the dream NOW. No use waiting.

  15. edudyorlik   September 5, 2012 at 1:50 AM

    Here it is… the election is over and this is “the” reply message…

    WAKE UP CALL for EVERYONE — Both sides of this issue.

    THE Separatists PQ have won the election and NOW it’s TIME. English Canada MUST stand tall and PUSH BACK. No more laws restricting the English language and the English people inside that “province.” Enough is enough.
    And, Blue Bird, This is one of those rare occasions when I actually would be much more content if you were indeed completely right within this statement of yours.
    @The Blue Bird RE:: Post: August 25, 2012 at 9:21 pm
    Blue Bird wrote: Speaking of Trudeau…
    “Besides, a lot of Quebecois would hate him precisely because he would not want to give Quebec any special status at all. So, how could it be said that Pierre Elliott Trudeau only acted in order to favor Quebec or, for that matter, French speakers in Canada? That just defies logic.”

    I will illustrate “how it could be said TRUDEAU ACTED IN FAVOR OF QUEBEC AND THE FRENCH,” and also how it DOES NOT “defy logic” AT ALL.

    VERY unfortunately for all of English Canada, (and likely for all of Canada as a whole considering the division it is now creating) Trudeau’s actions were part of a strategy which duped us ALL. And, it seems, that includes you and me as well. This is why I hate to say this but…

    As a likely unintended, but conversely VERY convenient result of Trudeau trying to prevent those with small minds (IE: Rene L.) from disrupting his master plan, Trudeau ended up coming off looking like a grand Federalist. But, it is “VERY” EVIDENT NOW with all the proof we see in what is happening in this country (some three decades later) that Trudeau simply didn’t want to “give Quebec any special status at all” because his “longer term vision” was “bigger” for Quebec and the French than that of the those small minded separatist like Rene who were impatient, self absorbed and wanted Quebec “ONLY,” as his own little “win right now and take home the marbles with the glory for himself” type of victory.

    WATCH THIS VIDEO (granted, it’s not professional, you can LOL all you wish and pick it apart all you want but, just watch it till the end and give the message a chance) …

    http://youtu.be/981IaOhQGvw

    If that didn’t do it for ya then, video aside, it is still VERY evident that Trudeau REALIZED that with the right people in strategic places, and with the right laws enshrined within the constitution (which he so fervently wanted to repatriate) the French would ultimately end up with a bigger “PRIZE.”

    All OF CANADA. And, with what is going on NOW, it’s NOT hard to see this.

    I would be skeptical myself except that there are plenty of P.E.T quotes from back in the day which can be looked up and, when examined, they quite clearly match up with what we see happening today …

    Granted, Trudeau must have known it would take a longer period of time to attain this goal but then… Good ol Pierre was a strategist, and we all know that the water that flows from the river takes time to get to the ocean and strategy games like chess take longer than mindless games like checkers.

    And this is, as I said,
    — VERY UNFORTUNATELY — (for Canada) EXACTLY what we see happening today.
    And also, the very reason why the majority English of this country must do what the French traditionally do. Stand up, band together and curb this ASAP for the sake of our children and their children and so on.
    It’s time…

  16. edudyorlik   September 5, 2012 at 3:55 AM

    @Patrick Boucher RE: September 4, 2012 at 8:17 pm POST

    Patrick said, “Québec would do very well without Canada.”

    I suppose you are also one of those who mistakenly believes that Quebec pays more into Canada than Canada gives to Quebec as well eh?

    Well, with all due respect Patrick. This proves you are indeed living in some kind of dreamland. Oh, and since you folk always ask for proof… Here ya go… http://youtu.be/3B6AULsdyxE

  17. admin   September 5, 2012 at 4:08 AM

    now mcsmarty even if Quebec leaves Canada they’d still blame their woes on us 🙂

  18. Patrick Boucher   September 5, 2012 at 4:25 AM

    I expected worse, mr charest lost his seat, but its not as bad as a defeat as I had anticipated. Some dumbass with a gun as I am sure you are all aware came in with a gun during mme marois s speech. I have said it before, there are dumbasses everywhere, he was yelling, les anglais sont réveil. 1 dead, 2 wounded…it is a wake up call though, things aren’t working, we have to do something, everything we can so this doesn’t happen again.

    – I think we will have disagreements but I will share admins quote, although we wont admit it, both sides can’t get along without the other.

  19. So Sad   September 5, 2012 at 7:15 AM

    @mcsmarty – It’s a sad, sad day when people spread hate. Why even mention aboriginal peoples in your comment. Shame on you. Stick to the subject and give your views in a more human and bigott free way.

  20. stellabystarlight   September 5, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    As much as you all would want Quebec to seperate…it won’t happen. As stated by others…..we need each other whether you want to admit it or not. It is great for the country as a whole and Quebecers realize this.

    This language issue is only being pushed by a small group who have a problem with french culture and most don’t even live in Quebec or Ontario……go figure.

  21. Highlander   September 5, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    Stella said:

    “This language issue is only being pushed by a small group who have a problem with french culture and most don’t even live in Quebec or Ontario……go figure.”

    Millions of disillusioned people and now with separatist in ,expect the country to change ….change is never easy!

  22. bella-b   September 5, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    “This language issue is only being pushed by a small group who have a problem with french culture and most don’t even live in Quebec or Ontario……go figure.”

    Are you sure Stella? Because if you are sure, I will stop worrying. I don’t know why I ever listened to anyone else. Thank you so much for you assurances!

  23. Le Renard bleu   September 5, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Well, Edudyorlik, if all of Canada, as you have said, is actually on the road to being taken over by French Canadians or Quebecers (as per some master plan that Pierre Elliott Trudeau hatched over forty-three years ago according to your most inept words and ideas), I have not seen it at all. I simply do not perceive any sign of it either in the news or in my daily and ordinary life.

    I remembered that you had announced this message, Edudyorlik. Frankly, I am quite disappointed in you; considering the expectations that you had built up, I thought that you would come up with something more significant than that. 😀

  24. Eric   September 5, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    stellabystarlight, you wrote the issue is being pushed by a small group who have a problem with French culture.
    It may be by a small group, but I think the only issue they have with French culture, is that there is not more of it, so we are talking about 2 different groups. Not sure of the time frames of who was first, but push back does not always bring out the best in people.

  25. Tim   September 5, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Stella, not sure why you are meddling into the language issue if you do not even live in Canada.

  26. Patrick Boucher   September 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    for those interested, check this video out… apparently you can see a bullet hole behind pauline marois..check the curtains.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7WRLZ9IBy0&sns=fb

  27. stellabystarlight   September 5, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    Tim……Tim….Timmy. My goodness….I happen to be french Canadian living in Canada, a country that has two official languages **smile**

    I love my country and what it has to offer. What I don’t like is when a group tries to seperate a once peaceful nation and tries to instigate and fabricate problems where none really exist. You see, I live in Ontario not Quebec……too many are confused about what province they live in. It’s to the point that they are trying to dictate to other provinces how things should be done in their backyard and think they can control and dictate how the gov spends the tax dollars. They even go as far as wanting to eliminate the french language and their culture. My goodness……they are even talking civil war if they don’t get their way.

    So, you see, as a Canadian, I am concerned about the hatred shown towards the french and of course, I will defend our culture, a culture that I am proud of, that served me well and taught me a lot!!!

    But you know what Tim?

  28. Mariah   September 5, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Had to laugh Stella,until your last few lines….. it could have been written by an Anglophone**smile**

  29. bella-b   September 5, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    Stella….Stella…..Stellaboo….my goodness, wasn’t that you encouraging a civil war? Don’t make me go find the post. You encouraged people to fight for their beliefs, and now you condemn it? hmmmm

    I’m pretty sure no one here said they wanted to get rid of the french language or culture. What they are asking for is fairness and equality. Why do you insist on spreading such hyperbole?

    You claim to be a Canadian but you only want to save and support one small part of our shared culture and could care less about any other. Seems very biased and uncanadian. I think you meant to say you are a French Canadian, who wants her own culture and language to trump all others at the expense of everyone elses tax dollars. What are you doing for Canada besides stirring up hatred and loathing?

  30. Colleen McIntosh   September 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    Hey Patrick,

    Checked out your YouTube link…does appear to be a hole in the curtain behind her…could be a bullet hole, however was under the impression that the attacker never made it into the hall.

    Perhaps, I had misunderstood but that’s my take on the subject. Having said that, it’s possible that would have been “covered up”, either for security/police reasons or to minimize the damage and/or panic, IF, there was indeed an assassination attempt on her life.

    Just to be clear, am not advocating for an assassination, just that it is possible that her security team or the police would not want that “potential” made public.

    Thanks for sharing:)

  31. Le Renard bleu   September 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Stop saying that, bella-b; French Canadians pay their fair share of taxes too. By Jove!

    Besides, up to 2003, there used to be an association that would fight for the rights of English speakers in Quebec and was financially supported by the Department of Heritage of the federal government as well in the name of the principle of the existence of the two official languages. That organisation was named Alliance Quebec and it fell due to its huge debts, which it had contracted by constantly turning to the courts. Naturally, since that burden would be carried by all taxpayers, not just the English-speaking ones, and since, as I have said, French Canadians also pay taxes, French-speaking people paid for that as well.

  32. edudyorlik   September 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    @Mariah RE September 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm POST

    Mariah wrote:

    “Had to laugh Stella,until your last few lines….. it could have been written by an Anglophone**smile**”

    That is SOOOO funny because as i was reading Stella’s diatribe,

    “I love my country and what it has to offer. What I don’t like is when a group tries to separate a once peaceful nation and tries to instigate and fabricate problems where none really exist.”

    I was thinking the EXACT same thing and sure enough, i scroll down and there it was, in all it’s glory. My exact thoughts so wonderfully spelled out in written form by you. Well said Mariah.

  33. edudyorlik   September 5, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    PS — It’s completely SAD how these folk say these things and don’t even recognize the irony of what they are saying.

    Another great example is this woman Louise Beaudoin

    http://youtu.be/EMlc18cpx2I

    who say’s, “Ah, you know we believe in diversity. Diversity of identity.”

    Totally not cluing in to how blatantly ridicules that statement actually is…

    Yeah sure they believe in diversity when it applies to them being diverse from others but heaven forbid if ANYONE among them wishes to be diverse from THEM.
    Good lord. It’s so frustrating.
    – Similar to how…

    Blue Bird say’s “French Canadians pay their fair share of taxes too.”
    Hey Blue Bird. Do the math. French Canadians are at best 20% of the total population and thus, “fair share” simply CANNOT be fair as it amounts to a “pittance” In the big picture.

    It just makes me shake my head in complete dismay. With that kind of mentality on one side of this issue, it’s really no wonder things are in such a state.

    Also, take note of what Louise B. says at the end of the video. I quote. “Not as part of Canada. We want out.” AND THAT folks, is something we MUST accept and re-act to accordingly right now. Why should we wait? Really… Why? We need to let our leaders know we are fed up with paying for English Canadian citizens within the “province” of Quebec to be treated so badly and fed up with paying for groups and organizations outside the “province” of Quebec that only serve to make life difficult for us.

  34. Lolochuck   September 5, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    Quebec people do NOT pay their fair share! Get a grip! Great daycare bonus’, lowest tuition and gee what are you up to now per child 10,000 a head or is it still $6,000. Treating Anglophones and Allophones like second class citizens…….Shame on the Quebec government. But stand proud…..whining, crying and bellyaching has gotten you this far!

    Yes, the rest of Canada is waking up…..we have been the fools for way too long. Transfer payments up the wazoo!!!!

    Quebec needs to drop this extreme language push ASAP. You can’t have peace when a province puts that above all else and at the ROC’s expense.

  35. edudyorlik   September 6, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Has everyone noticed how quiet things get (to steal a phrase from Colleen?) “you can hear the cricket chirping” when valid irrefutable points are made.
    Such as…
    Blue Bird say’s “French Canadians pay their fair share of taxes too.”
    Hey Blue Bird. Do the math. French Canadians are at best 20% of the total population and thus, “fair share” simply CANNOT be fair as it amounts to a “pittance” In the big picture.

    AND

    “Quebec people do NOT pay their fair share! Get a grip! Great daycare bonus’, lowest tuitions and gee what are you up to now per child 10,000 a head or is it still $6,000.”

  36. stellabystarlight   September 6, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    yorlik/mariah….it was written by a french canadian who actually loves the country and what it stands for. Your words and actions certainly don’t demonstrate love for your country or fellowmen. Unless you are both hypocrites……I doubt you could say the same.

  37. edudyorlik   September 6, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    Stella, Stella, Stella… I doubt that anyone is confused about who it was written by. Once again you are missing the “REAL” point.

    That POINT IS… It very well could have been written by an anglophone with the same love for his or her country but who feels it is the “French” “who historically speaking,

    “are the group trying to separate a once peaceful nation and trying to instigate and fabricate problems where none really exist.”

    and THAT is what is so ironic. It is the FACT that “you” just don’t understand that side of it.

    This whole thing is happening right now because of what the French are doing and have been doing for years now. It is NOT the English that have laws that restrict or diminish the French or the French language in this country. I know it may be fruitless but i would hope that you can Please… At least SEE that and how that could cause the English to be upset.

  38. stellabystarlight   September 6, 2012 at 5:11 PM

    yorlik…you still don’t get it. What do I have to do to make you understand?

    Are we creating division? Nope.

    Are we the ones complaining?…..Nope

    Are we the ones sticking our nose in another provinces business?……Nope.

    Are we trying to dictate how the country should be run??? Nope

    Are we passing out pamphlets telling people how and why french should be abolished?…Nope

    Are we complaining about signs?….Nope.

    Are we rallying, instigating, complaining and trying to divide the country?…..Nope

    Are we talking civil war to prove a point?…..Nope

    Are we eager for Quebec to seperate?…..Nope

    Do you like the french language and their culture?…Nope

    So…..if you can honestly say that none of the above is true then perhaps I would I may believe that you love our country.

    THE POINT IS….you have no legitimate point. Who are you to think you can control the country, dictate how our taxes should be spent and where the monies should go? Who are you to think you have all the answers to all the problems??? Who are you to say what languages should be spoken in a country that has two official languages? Who are you to dictate who should be hired for Gov. jobs? THAT IS MY POINT……I hope you get it!!!!

  39. Patrick Boucher   September 6, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    Bill then you have never been to valleyfeild québec. Jack layton was from the surrounding area. have you lived in Lachine for more then three seconds, english is now the working language of 1 in three people. http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/pls/portal/docs/page/mtl_stats_fr/media/documents/LACHINE_AVRIL09_2.PDF

    -Stella, le renard bleu, ça me frustre, je leur montre la preuve et ils ne veulent rien savoir. Collen macantosh, faut-il être assez ignorant, tu lui as dit que le tueur était malade mentale, ils le disent dans les nouvelles, et collen ne te croit pas. Même le modérateur est partie pris.

  40. Edudyorlik   September 6, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Hey, let’s have a vote…

    Should we …

    Let Quebec have the “Province” of Quebec as their own COUNTRY?

    Yes, let em have it. Then simply allow the ROC to go back to a state where it only has to provide French to a certain degree within the Federal government. You know, the way it was originally intended in the first place.

    The French could then move to Quebec where they would feel completely accepted, and all warm and fuzzy like. Oh, and of course, “welcomed” … PLUS, they would have all the French hospitals and French clinics they could ever want (if they could afford them, that is).

    Voting started… 🙂

  41. stellabystarlight   September 6, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    yorlik…….as for Quebec having the lowest tuition fees…..again….WRONG. Why do you think the students were protesting? Right….their tuition fees are the highest in the country……comprends tu? As tu besoin des lessons de lecture???

  42. Highlander   September 6, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    So stella said:

    yorlik/mariah….it was written by a french canadian who actually loves the country and what it stands for. Your words and actions certainly don’t demonstrate love for your country or fellowmen.

    That same attitude gives you superiority does it not!

    Because someone makes a stand does not make them less CANADIAN,but a better citizen with hope to bring a positive change .

    More form the queen of propaganda :

    “What I don’t like is when a group tries to seperate a once peaceful nation and tries to instigate and fabricate problems where none really exist.”

    “They even go as far as wanting to eliminate the french language and their culture. My goodness……they are even talking civil war if they don’t get their way.”

    #1-Now stella the group is influential but to divide a nation, Really ?
    #2-Once again our group advocates for representation by population of which MOST just societies would agree as “Fair”.

    We only stated that civil war would be inevitable if the Government continues to allow marginalization of a population.
    Civil war is now much more frequently talked about on line ,once again we do not advocate violence ,but the Government apathy will only worsen the issue.

    But will the Federal government protect its minorities in Quebec .
    The future in now .

  43. Rosie   September 6, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    Stella are you serious? You honestly believe Quebec’s tuition is the highest in the Country? I say you had better do some research yourself. What a joke. Quebec’s tuition is by far lower than the rest of Canada and the only students outside of Quebec who get to enjoy those low rates are International students from other French Countries..

  44. edudyorlik   September 6, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    Re: stellabystarlight September 6, 2012 at 5:11 pm POST

    Oh my good lord in heaven above. Unless you are referring to “we” in your reply as being “we the Franco Ontarians” then it is VERY obvious to me Stella that you are the type of person that could be staring at a beautiful blue sky and would have no problem arguing with anyone as to the fact that the Blue sky you are staring at is indeed Pink.

    For this reason, after this post, I will waste no more time and effort trying to reason with you. It is fruitless. I just hope that any others reading your posts can discern this very unattractive characteristic of yours and simply reject ANYTHING you say out right.

    PS: If you look back at my posts you will see that I have rarely (if ever) been negative but, I feel compelled to say this; It is VERY obvious to me that my wonderfully amazing puppy dawg has more intellectual where with all before breakfast than you, my dear Stella, have throughout any given day **s**

    I leave you with these responses to your insane questions … They speak for themselves …

    Are we creating division? http://youtu.be/q1LWAfBfWZ4

    Are we the ones complaining? http://youtu.be/LMKtxo3OQi0

    Are we the ones sticking our nose in another provinces business? No, just in the business of the whole of the ROC by forcing French on the ROC.

    Are we trying to dictate how the country should be run??? http://youtu.be/2XlI3-AURf0

    Are we passing out pamphlets telling people how and why french should be abolished?… No. Even worse. Passing laws in an attempt to abolishing the English language.

    Are we complaining about signs? (this question is laughable) http://youtu.be/gzD9rqbFWW8

    Are we rallying, instigating, complaining and trying to divide the country?
    http://youtu.be/q1LWAfBfWZ4 AND http://youtu.be/FHuQhmzU974

    Are we talking civil war to prove a point? http://youtu.be/ZAMseEC0vhA

    Are we eager for Quebec to separate?…..Why would you be? After all the French get to have their cake and eat it too. FOR NOW — That WILL BE changing very soon.

    Do you like the french language and their culture?…My dear Stella, you have ZERO idea what I like and or don’t like. AND “I” like it that way.

    And just for good measure, have a look at the hate on the faces of these French protestors
    http://youtu.be/OMDakVR8oX0
    I dare you to try to make the case that they are not “complaining” and “creating division.”
    OVER and OUT… Buuuuhhhh bye… Au revoirs… 😉

  45. edudyorlik   September 6, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    Re: stellabystarlight September 6, 2012 at 8:00 pm POST
    I am adding this one thing as i didn’t see this post of yours spewing this misinformation till after i sent my previous post…

    Stella wrote: “yorlik……as for Quebec having the lowest tuition fees…..again…WRONG. Why do you think the students were protesting? Right…their tuition fees are the highest in the country…”

    Again i say, it is totally unbelievable that you could be this misinformed so i now i am 100% sure it is just simply you pumping out ABSOLUTE inaccurate and brain dead propaganda and verbal diarrhea.

    http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/110916/t110916b1-eng.htm

    Read the proof and maybe you will have the respect to admit i was not wrong and it is you that is spreading lies. Quebec pays the least. And what’s even worse is that it is subsidized (like practically everything else) by the ROC.

  46. Helga   September 7, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    Stellababystarlight is a comic – see her performing at Comedy Club (starting at 0:48 sec):

    – Mr. Bouchard, there is something Canadians would like to know. Don’t you think there is enormous contradiction that you, the separatist, would be the leader of her Majesty the Queen’s Loyal Opposition? Don’t you see the contradiction in this situation?

    – No, there is no contradiction… no contradiction at all. Look at the family of the Queen herself. Prince Charles – separated. Prince Andrew – separated. Princess Anne – separated. Like that, I feel one of the family.

    LOL LOL LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e740kzFs1yA&feature=autoplay&list=ULMDxk1OqLmjA&playnext=3

  47. Patrick Boucher   September 7, 2012 at 4:16 AM

    Stella, fortunately for the Québec students, their tuition fees are the lowest in All of Canada. They were protesting a 350 dollar raise which added up to about 150 with the tax deduction. They are saying that the 350 dollar a raise per year for five years is too much for them to bare. Even with that, Ontario students will still pay more then the Quebec students. This is the topper, they are still protesting….the students are in real danger of losing a semester which will cost them an average of 5 thousand dollars.
    I’m against the protest..I think they proved their point, charest is gone..let see what their leader marois will do. SHe really capitalized on the protest. NOW THAT is something I disagree with. To encourage students to break the law, Madame Marois should be ashamed of herself.

  48. bella-b   September 7, 2012 at 5:26 AM

    Excellent post edud!

    Unfortunately Stella does not click on links. She asks for proof, but doesn’t care or ignores when you post it (like others on that side of the argument). She thinks all youtube links are home made baloney, and so will not take the time to click. It’s a shame really, but very telling of the other side.

    TGIF Have a great weekend all!

  49. Cory Cameron   September 7, 2012 at 7:20 AM

    Guys don’t waste your time trying to convince those who disagree with you. It just isn’t worth it. You can provide all the proof in the world to someone of something but if they are so dead set on an opinion than their mind is closed to anything else.

    Instead, spend some of your time talking about the subject with colleagues, friends, acquaintances and family members. See what they think of the subject (good or bad) and ask them for their input about what they think should be done; if anything at all.

    If democracy has taught us anything, it’s that the more opinions offered generally equal a better outcome for a given issue. So rather than trying to convince a small segment of our population why this issue of forced bilingualism is wrong (they will defend it tooth and nail because they are the prime benefactors), go out and work towards the task of connecting with others who have had the same experience as you. How have they dealt with it? What did they learn? Could they offer you any advice on how best to handle this issue?

  50. stellabystarlight   September 7, 2012 at 8:31 AM

    Patrick….merci je m’excuse. On ne peux pas tout savoir…lol

    OMG…..I erred…..terrible isn’t it? I deserve to be lynched…..but one thing I did notice….I am not the only one who has done this **s**

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