Eric Little of Ottawa on Language Service Fairness in Ontario – LTE – July 25, 2013

Eric Little of Ottawa on Language Service Fairness in Ontario – LTE – July 25, 2013

Canada TOPOOver the next few weeks while speaking with friends about various issues of the day, pay attention to your comments. Are you saying oh well, it has been going on a long time, what can you do, you can’t fight City Hall or something else that is similar?  We have become so accustomed to not doing anything for the greater good we just explain it away, or provide some creative justification to continue doing nothing. Sometimes people feel helpless, it is more work than they have time for right now, they don’t want to get involved, or a favorite, that is somebody else’s job. Really? Caring about what you see around you, doing something about it and wanting a better life for your kids is somebody else’s job? Whose?

Henry Ford once said,” if you think you can do a thing or think you can’t do a thing, you’re right.” At first glance that may be a fence sitter position, however if you use it get yourself motivated, it is a rallying cry. You just need to pay attention and connect a couple of dots along the way to get started. Talking about it with friends, posting in Cornwall Free News and sending an email to a politician are all perfect and expected of citizens in a democratic society. So would be joining a group with similar concerns. We certainly see that with hundreds of Francophone groups, the majority of which are funded by all taxpayers including you.

Something that you may take exception to and want to get involved with is how French services are being guaranteed politically, legally and financially. The Ontario French Language Services Commissioner is on record saying “. A designated agency or program provides its supplier with legal immunity that protects it from changes in the economic and political climate”. As far as I know, Ontario does not have an English only government agency or entity, and if there were, they could be shut down in seconds, unlike these “first class” entities and agencies who signed on to the French Languages Services Act.

I am not saying shut down French services, I am saying fairness to all taxpayers has vanished but paying for it is still up to all taxpayers. Jobs are increasingly bilingual but the numbers of bilingual citizens outside of Quebec has stayed stagnant or dropped. Ontario revoked the fairness is a 2 way street act in 2006 allowing more Quebec residents to find work here, should the Ontario government not help its citizens first before other provinces? Certainly Quebec does! Go ahead, get involved or just say, “if you think you can do a thing or think you can’t do a thing, you’re right.”

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James Moak

278 Responses to "Eric Little of Ottawa on Language Service Fairness in Ontario – LTE – July 25, 2013"

  1. bella   August 5, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    Furtz
    August 5, 2013 at 8:48 am
    @ bella. Have you driven through downtown Toronto, or across Canada to Vancouver lately?

    On the TransCanada highway? Yes. Lots of bilingual signage on the TransCanada highway. Have you? Why the reluctance to admit that TransCanada highway system in Quebec can be a nightmare to navigate if you are unilingual English?

  2. bella   August 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Richard tremblay
    August 5, 2013 at 9:01 am
    ¨and the world is such an imperfect place because we didn’t get everything we cried for¨john lennon in his last interview. I agree stella, this is the best country in the world. As soon as people realize it and some people stop bitching about things they thing they deserve the even better off we will be.

    May I introduce to you Michel and Lynda Thibodeau?
    Shall I provide a link or would you prefer Google on your own?

  3. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Highlander August 5, 2013 at 9:11 am

    “You consider that a valid argument …wow you really are not as smart as you think you are .”

    Judging by the way you want to milk this, you do not like the answer I provided. This may not not be the answer you were hoping to get but for the 4th time this is my answer.

    As I’ve suggested to you in my 3 other replies, in order to prevent any further delays to what seem to be an important issue for you, post your information ASAP and I’ll evaluate.

  4. Furtz   August 5, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Yes bella, I’ve driven to the west coast and back many times, the last time being last summer. And when driving to the east coast, I always skirt around Montreal to avoid traffic tie-ups. When driving in Montreal, I stay off the main highways just because it’s far more relaxing. I know you don’t want to hear this, but as a unilingual Anglo, I have no difficulty navigating the roads in Quebec. That must make me a complete jerk, no?

  5. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Hungry for the Truth….
    August 5, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Come on live up to your namesake and prove to the viewers this is really what your hungry for .

    This is your time to shine…then perhaps not….. but the viewers will decide that won’t they.

    “Judging by the way you want to milk this, you do not like the answer I provided. This may not not be the answer you were hoping to get but for the 4th time this is my answer.

    As I’ve suggested to you in my 3 other replies, in order to prevent any further delays to what seem to be an important issue for you, post your information ASAP and I’ll evaluate.”

    So there is the answer folks now you see what you get !

    I’ll now stick to calling him “lives for lies ” as he has proven this to be true .
    Hungry for the truth he is not ,evasive from it is more the fact 10 days now and still has evaded answering the question .

    Have we not answered his questions ,YES but yet he will not answer that question is not of his liking so he prefers to be evasive from that truth .

    Now folks That’s REALITY!

  6. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Furtz
    August 5, 2013 at 10:50 am

    That must make me a complete jerk, no?

    Well you said it!

    bella just proved you wrong ,which is a frequent occurrence!

  7. stellabystarlight   August 5, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    highlander wrote: “P.S. 8 DAYS AND WAITING ON THAT LINGUISTIC SERVICES OFFERED BY AMERICAN HOSPITALS THAT YOUR “INQUIAITIVE” MIND WANTED TO KNOW.”

    FYI highlander because of the high amount of different ethnic groups, especially in NYC, the hospitals do offer services in different languages Spanish being one of them. Got That? . The Spanish language is written on products and billboards, in airports etc etc……SO TO ANSWERS YOUR REDUNDANT QUESTION…….THEY DO HAVE HOSPITALS WITH LINGUISTICS SERVICES.

    As for naming them, perhaps you can pull yourself away from your computer for a day or so and check it out for yourself. Then you can get back to us with the names. You are the one trying to prove us wrong…the burden of proof is on you sweetheart……go to it, we will wait.

    @highlander……QUESTION ANSWERED. FOLKS, WHEN highlander DOESN’T LIKE THE ANSWER, HE KEEPS REPEATING THE SAME QUESTION TO TRY AND MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE WE NEVER ANSWERED.

  8. bella   August 5, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Furtz
    August 5, 2013 at 10:50 am
    … I know you don’t want to hear this, but as a unilingual Anglo, I have no difficulty navigating the roads in Quebec. That must make me a complete jerk, no?

    Oh furtzy, if you think that is what makes you a complete jerk, you are sadly mistaken. That ship sailed long ago.

    Bravo for you being adventurous enough to stray of the main trail though. Do you want a hero cookie?

    Now if you will recall my post was referring to the TransCanada highway, construction, temporary informational signage, and the lack of English on said signs. Not the west coast, or the east coast, not country roads in the rurals, but the TransCanada highway. Enough hooha and fancy flash if you have nothing to contribute, back off and quit trying to “pastor “me.

  9. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Highlander August 5, 2013 at 7:22 am

    “Hungry by his approach would create a whole new bureaucracy.
    Imagine the millions or perhaps billions to do the research thought Canada.”

    How can this approach cost millions and need another layer of bureaucracy? The Patient Registration Bureaucracy is already existing. The computer programs are already in use at each Hospital in Ontario.

    “Do you require SERVICE IN FRENCH OR ENGLISH?”
    They ask what Religion you belong to. Why not the Language for Service?

    At the end of the day Local Hospitals can tell tell you how many Catholics, Protestant, Jewish, Atheist etc.. But can’t answer how many French or English patients was served and in which language.

    How expensive and difficult can it be to add a few additional questions to an existing process? NO need to recreate but to redirect for a different outcome. No more money or new bureaucracy needed.

    “We already having the measuring tool Stats Canada Data .Why create a whole new bureaucracy and the costs that go with it .”

    As I have demonstrated above there is no need to recreate a new bureaucracy. The present measuring tool is inefficient to measure fairly to achieve of the objective of making Hiring Policies more reflective to the population.

    What the present DATA does not answer is an estimate of how many of the 9,500 French-speaking residents in Cornwall will UTILIZE FRECH SERVICES.

    Not all 9,500 French-speaking residents will UTILIZE French Services all together today. Some may never use the service. Some may use it once a year. Some every 3 years. How do we know? The Data an actual USAGE is presently not available.
    The present Stats Can Data is based on EXPECTED USAGE not ACTUAL USAGE.

    “Then all that data must be correlated and processed by stats Canada city by city, town by town for those numbers to be implemented .”

    Absolutely no need to have Statistic Canada involved in this process. This is individual Local Public Institution DATA. Compiled by the existing Patient Registration Bureaucracy. Statistical Data is generated as a REPORT. No correlation and implementation required. The REPORT is generated for the purpose to assist Local Administration to determine Staff language requirements based on ACTUAL USAGE DATA that will allow them to draft fair reflective to population Hiring Policies.

    “How many years would it take to first of all get approval ,then create the bureaucracy ,then go town to town city to city. Lets not forget to implement suggested changes accordingly ,then panel reviews .”

    NONE OF THIS IS ACCURATE NOR RELEVANT TO THE SUGGESTED PROCESS.

    “Once again its like the highway traffic act .The government sets the legislation and
    speed limits are set by the government and not the police officers.”

    Your example would be relevant if the FLAO did not leave it to Local administration to “SET THE SPEED LIMIT”, in this case it LEGALLY requires that LOCAL AUTHORITIES set and determine. Utilizing the inadequate Provincial Calculation Formula based on Stats Can DATA. They must evaluate, determine and implement Staff language requirements.

    “The provincial and federal government by not setting standards with regards to hiring practices under legislation has in essence allowed those government entities to set the standards.”

    In this case two things can happen. One can continue laying blame. Or, attempt to suggests formulas that could possibly be offered to the government by Local Public Institutions as a correction. Which could render the PROVINCIAL CALCULATION FORMULA Based on the inadequate and limited STATISTIC CANADA DATA, more reflective in each individual
    local community in Ontario. The Government has set standards with the inclusion of a faulty measuring tool based on inadequate non reflective data that Local Authorities utilize.

  10. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    stellabystarlight
    August 5, 2013 at 9:53 am

    “FYI highlander because of the high amount of different ethnic groups, especially in NYC, the hospitals do offer services in different languages Spanish being one of them. Got That? . The Spanish language is written on products and billboards, in airports etc etc……SO TO ANSWERS YOUR REDUNDANT QUESTION…….THEY DO HAVE HOSPITALS WITH LINGUISTICS SERVICES.”

    Hey stella not just new York city but even small hospitals in remote area’s IT’S CALLED SERVICE, and its not only Spanish but services in many languages.

    If they can provide for many languages why must Ontario Hospitals only provide for ONE and hire disproportionate to the population for this?

    A simple explanation for a simple mind:

    So is it better to have one ice cream choice outside of vanilla or 170 different choices ,now which would be deemed better service and choice ?

    You see folks its not really about linguistic services that the french services language act was enacted but to put forth an agenda whereby ALL Ontarian’s must assimilate for those job opportunities!

    If it were about linguistic services :Hospitals would provide language services beyond that one language when clearly the capability is there for many more!

    ” As for naming them, perhaps you can pull yourself away from your computer for a day or so and check it out for yourself. Then you can get back to us with the names. You are the one trying to prove us wrong…the burden of proof is on you sweetheart……go to it, we will wait.”

    I have been waiting 10 days now for lives for lies to do this as he had stated he would to prove me wrong so the burden of proof is his so therefore all viewers are still ……….waiting.

    Spin it as you may stella for you are not so good at it! But it was lives for lies that stated his inquisitive mind wanted to know as to prove me wrong.

    We viewers are still………………………………………….waiting

  11. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Cory Cameron August 5, 2013 at 8:26 am

    “And that’s the issue that translation services could serve the issue of language servicing.”

    I think your right to consider what is being suggested by others and consider the option of Linguistic Translation.

    Let me know when you have done the numbers on the additional costs to create a new bureaucracy to administrate this service. The supplemental expense that will be required to hire additional Translation Staff per shift. Administration will have to increase budgets to provide a service that uni-lingual staff can not provide.

    But hey, it may work. Or they’ll want to hire Trilingual Staff instead of Bilingual. Local Administration might value the suggestion to spend additional money to accomplish what they are presently accomplishing with unfair Hiring Practices.

    Asking Administration to budget additional Staff dollars doesn’t seem like a strong motivating argument at making these unfair Hiring Practices go away any time soon. But, I’ve been wrong before.

    It’s worth a try…..

    Thank-You for your reply and thoughts.
    I appreciate it.

  12. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    http://worldunitednews.blogspot.ca/2013/08/montreals-stm-transit-security-are.html

    from one of the posters :

    “It makes me sick to my stomach to see what is going on with Quebec these days. I’m happy I left and I kind of feel bad (for francos and anglos alike) that still live there. I predict a civil war if things don’t shape up, and quickly. It’s getting very scary to watch my hometown fall to pieces like it is.”

    Civil war it is being mentioned more and more the people are becoming more disenchanted and frustrated.
    Lets pray it never comes to that ,but the government is setting forth the conditions that may result in it!

  13. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    bella August 4, 2013 at 6:54 pm
    “Throw in some construction, and lots and lots of signs all in French.”

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 4, 2013 at 7:55 pm
    How difficult can it be to find “Boulevard Decarie” in English” on a French sign.

    bella August 5, 2013 at 8:32 am
    “Awwww honey, in trying to backhandedly throw out insults, you decide to call all unilingual Canadians idiots? Precious you are. Just freakin’ precious.”

    No….NO…..NO….SWEETY …..These are your words and interpretation of things that was never said. You alone called uni-lingual Canadians Idiots. Where did I call anyone an IDIOT in my post.. YOUR WORDS.

    bella August 5, 2013 at 8:32 am
    “So gentlemen, please refrain from amending my posts so that they fit your idea of the world and what you think I meant. Richard said “actually go to Quebec.” I was merely pointing out that he was mistaken in his assumptions yet again.”

    So bella please refrain from amending my words and twisting them to have them fit your Idea. I was merely asking a question.

  14. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/Macpherson+Pastagate+other+language+tensions+factors/8742262/story.html

    “Yet Pastagate was one of the biggest stories out of Quebec in the early part of the year, when tourists would be planning their summer vacations.

    A Montreal-based media-monitoring service, Influence Communication, reported less than a week after the story broke that it had been the subject of 350 articles in 14 foreign countries as far away as Australia, and more than that in Canada.”

    Yes the world is waking up to our Language aparthied.

  15. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=692222627471525&set=a.619688048058317.1073741828.619408914752897&type=1&theater

    “My 17 year old son was handcuffed and thrown in the back of a police car and when I asked why I was give the excuse from the cop that he was in Quebec and didn’t need to speak English. Few things wrong here…. First they never read him his rites. Second they interrogated him without me or a lawyer present. Third they refused to tell me what was going on in English. There is something seriously wrong in this province where police can get away with treating the English like this and more importantly violating the rites and breaking the law them selfs. When in the hell is the Federal government going to set this province strait? I’m tired of being treated like a second class citizen in this province.”

    Oh but no its only an isolated incidence ………….ya right!

    There is stuff like this every day and there is a growing discontent and animosity which eventually will lead to violence.History has proven this time and time again.

    Welcome to language apartheid .

  16. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Highlander August 5, 2013 at 11:28 am

    @stella

    “I have been waiting 10 days now for lives for lies to do this as he had stated he would to prove me wrong so the burden of proof is his so therefore all viewers are still ……….waiting.”

    For the 5th time now. I have responded and have given you my suggestion to post what it is you so desperately want to debate. I have never said I would prove you wrong. I said I would investigate. Only fools don’t change their minds. And this was before a I passed my resolution.

    “I will no further seek to engage in debates that will not
    promote the objective of improving the unfair Hiring
    Practices in Cornwall.”

    So for a FIANL time please stop milking this thing. It’s been answered to my satisfaction decades ago. Some times we have to accept the answers provided, even if they don’t satisfy us. As they say we have to live with it.

  17. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Hungry for the Truth….
    August 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    “So bella please refrain from amending my words and twisting them to have them fit your Idea. I was merely asking a question.”

    Asking a question or implying

    Nice play on words there lives for lies!

    We see it ,so do the viewers !

  18. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Hungry for the Truth….
    August 5, 2013 at 11:34 am

    “Let me know when you have done the numbers on the additional costs to create a new bureaucracy to administrate this service. The supplemental expense that will be required to hire additional Translation Staff per shift. Administration will have to increase budgets to provide a service that uni-lingual staff can not provide.”

    The American hospitals have a per service usage ,no NEED for an additional Bureaucracy well unless your a liberal.
    Services can be provided in well over then a hundred different languages .
    Translation does not have to require additional staff but implement technology -Hell I know Canadian Hospitals are 20+ years behind in technology but they do not have to stay in the dark ages.

    But then again its not really about providing linguistic services but to apply THE AGENDA -All we Ontarian’s will be assimilated THE STATE WILL ENSURE THAT.

  19. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Hungry for the Truth….
    July 26, 2013 at 3:22 pm
    highlander
    July 26, 2013 at 9:21 am

    “Most if not all American Hospital’s provide translation services for numerous languages other then English and not just for one. Is that not a better service?”

    I find this hard to believe but, my inquisitive nature is persuading me to investigate. At first glace it’s sketchy, because 35 of the 50 States have Legislation recognizing English as the Official Language. More later….

    ‘So for a FIANL time please stop milking this thing. It’s been answered to my satisfaction decades ago. Some times we have to accept the answers provided, even if they don’t satisfy us. As they say we have to live with it.”

    So you calling Obama and he did not reply was your answer ?
    That is to be the answer I should except?

    Are you freaking kidding me ,do a little research to inform yourself ,be made aware the situation.
    To simply say I called the president and he didn’t answer! and that was your research ?

    You must take all of us as fools on here .
    Let the viewers decide what they think of your so called research.

  20. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Highlander August 5, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    “So bella please refrain from amending my words and twisting them to have them fit your Idea. I was merely asking a question.”

    There is no truth to these INFERENCES that you advance.
    It’s once again an attempt to deter from the truth with the use
    of your personal INFERENCES and interpretation . The use of
    your craftiness and ability to creatively twist and take out of
    contextual reference is once again at work. These methods have
    been well demonstrated and documented.

    As I’ve suggested to you in the past Highlander,
    debate with facts, information, opinions and views,
    but please quit this DISPICABLE CHILDISH BEHAVIOUR.
    It doesn’t do you justice, it insults your own intelligence.

  21. Richard tremblay   August 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    howard again you didn’t check the facts. The father posted a video on his facebook and in my opinion, was being very arrogant with the police. He understood everything the officer said plus the police told them they were being detained for investigation. HAd my son been arrested like that, I would have been ALOT more hysterical. Is he possibly looking for ways to get his son off?. Could it be that possibly the father knew the EXACT reason why his son was being detained. Encore une fois, une tempête dans un verre d’eau. All I could do is speculate… But if the officer couldn’t speak english you should not judge him. I learned at a very young age that if you are being arrogant with the police, they can be arrogant .right back.. But, in this case the officer was very professional, calm and respectful.

  22. Richard tremblay   August 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    some people when they hear: I’m sorry I don’t speak french ?¨ Now that sentence is ok, because we are just a minority. But when a french guys says” Je m’excuse, je ne peux que te parler en français¨ Well that sentence is a crime against nature.

  23. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Richard tremblay
    August 5, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    howard again you didn’t check the facts.

    There is stuff like this every day and there is a growing discontent and animosity which eventually will lead to violence.History has proven this time and time again.

    Welcome to language apartheid .

    Yes there is different sides to the coin ,but my reference was to his statement and be it may it was his feeling of being treated as a second class citizen.

    Obviously by that statement this is not the first time he feels that way and no doubt not the last, but it remains his feeling on it all and he is expressing his discontent of feeling like a second class citizens.

    HE IS NOT ALONE IN THIS it is seen many a time on websites and heard as well.

    The resentment is building!

  24. Furtz   August 5, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Strange that my last comment was blocked. I will reword it.
    We can all agree, including myself, that I am a jerk. But I am a happy jerk. That is, I don’t spend my life in a constant state of anger or hate.
    Is that more acceptable?

  25. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    Hungry for the Truth….
    August 5, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    “There is no truth to these INFERENCES that you advance.
    It’s once again an attempt to deter from the truth with the use
    of your personal INFERENCES and interpretation . The use of
    your craftiness and ability to creatively twist and take out of
    contextual reference is once again at work.”

    Like a word may have different meanings,and how those words are stated have a direct impact on that meaning .
    Therefore a question may have inference depending on the prior reference.

    Deter from what truth?The same truth you conveniently avoid?

    “but please quit this DISPICABLE CHILDISH BEHAVIOUR.
    It doesn’t do you justice, it insults your own intelligence.”

    So are you inferring or implying that I have this DISPICABLE CHILDISH BEHAVIOUR,As you did not state Your in front of DESPICABLE (notice the correction)

  26. bella   August 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Hungry for the Truth….
    August 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    ….bella August 5, 2013 at 8:32 am
    “Awwww honey, in trying to backhandedly throw out insults, you decide to call all unilingual Canadians idiots? Precious you are. Just freakin’ precious.”

    No….NO…..NO….SWEETY …..These are your words and interpretation of things that was never said. You alone called uni-lingual Canadians Idiots. Where did I call anyone an IDIOT in my post.. YOUR WORDS.

    I don’t know if you are stella in disguise or just feeling guilty, but you seem to have mistaken who I was addressing in the above post you quoted. stella called me an idiot and inferred that all unilingual English were idiots and she was special because she be edumatcated. You tell me before this goes any further, are you stella, or are you mistaken?

  27. bella   August 5, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Richard tremblay
    August 5, 2013 at 2:08 pm
    some people when they hear: I’m sorry I don’t speak french ?¨ Now that sentence is ok, because we are just a minority. But when a french guys says” Je m’excuse, je ne peux que te parler en français¨ Well that sentence is a crime against nature.

    Who? Who said that? Show me. Link me.

  28. bella   August 5, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Furtz
    August 5, 2013 at 2:28 pm
    Strange that my last comment was blocked. I will reword it.
    We can all agree, including myself, that I am a jerk. But I am a happy jerk. That is, I don’t spend my life in a constant state of anger or hate.
    Is that more acceptable?

    Awww furtz, I know you’re a happy jerk, just like I can admit to being a happy bitch, we understand each other, I think. I just won’t play your games by your rules. Your baffling bs gets tiring and repetitive and you hate to get stumped. That’s cool, just back of this bitch before she loses her happy. That’s all I’m saying.

    xoxo 😉

  29. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Highlander August 5, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    “So you calling Obama and he did not reply was your answer ?
    That is to be the answer I should except?”

    No, my answer for the 6th time has always been the same one.

    PS…In closing I have had no success at reaching Obama. I thought the best solution to avoid any further delays, is that you post the information you have and I’ll evaluate. I’ll be waiting ……Hungry for the Truth August 2, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    This is my complete contextual answer. Once again when things are extrapolated from it’s context you can have it say what you want. Like I’ve said in the last 5 previous answers, what we get as an answer is not always what we want them to be. We have to
    live with them for the 6th time.

    POST WHAT’S SO URGENT AND I”LL EVALUATE. It’s been my answer all along.

    “You must take all of us as fools on here . Let the viewers decide what they think of your so called research.”

    Once again your using your suggestive interpretation craftiness to have me say things I never said. I always let the viewers decide. They are intelligent and informed enough to detect games and child’s play when they see it.

  30. admin   August 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    K, you two may need a room….a padded one, but a room 😉

  31. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    bella August 4, 2013 at 6:54 pm
    “Throw in some construction, and lots and lots of signs all in French.”

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 4, 2013 at 7:55 pm
    How difficult can it be to find “Boulevard Decarie” in English” on a French sign.

    bella August 5, 2013 at 8:32 am
    “For an idiot it can be difficult. **smile** but I am ahead of the game, I speak both official languages.”

    “Awwww honey, in trying to backhandedly throw out insults, you decide to call all unilingual Canadians idiots? Precious you are. Just freakin’ precious.”

    No….NO…..NO….SWEETY …..These are your words and interpretation of things that was never said. You alone called uni-lingual Canadians Idiots. Where did I call anyone an IDIOT in my post.. YOUR WORDS. Hungry for the Truth…. August 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    bella August 5, 2013 at 8:32 am
    “So gentlemen, please refrain from amending my posts so that they fit your idea of the world and what you think I meant. Richard said “actually go to Quebec.” I was merely pointing out that he was mistaken in his assumptions yet again.”
    So bella please refrain from amending my words and twisting them to have them fit your Idea. I was merely asking a question. Hungry for the Truth…. August 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    bella August 5, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    “I don’t know if you are stella in disguise or just feeling guilty, but you seem to have mistaken who I was addressing in the above post you quoted. stella called me an idiot and inferred that all unilingual English were idiots and she was special because she be edumatcated. You tell me before this goes any further, are you stella, or are you mistaken?”

    No bella, I stick with my claim. No mistake from me. You were not responding to stella but to me. Unless you can give the post that stella called you an idiot you are clearly responding to me. HFTT. I don’t know if you are highlander in diguise or felling the need to take things out of context, or if you just made a mistake so tell me before this goes any further.

  32. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    @admin

    You may be right. Could you call and reserve me a room with a river view please. With an internet connection. I wouldn’t want to miss any of this entertainment.

    Thank-You

  33. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Hungry for the Truth….
    August 5, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    “PS…In closing I have had no success at reaching Obama. I thought the best solution to avoid any further delays, is that you post the information you have and I’ll evaluate. I’ll be waiting ……Hungry for the Truth August 2, 2013 at 1:10 pm”

    So your being very ambiguous in that statement ,like most of your statements thereby open for interpretation!

    Much like a how politician works :ambiguous statement in which the interpreter feels that the politician is actually personally listening and interpreting their views and understands what they mean.

    Then when those actions are not done the politician can advise that person “well that’s not exactly what I said” or “that was not my understanding”.

    Did you talk to The presidents chief of staff ?
    Did you talk to the state department ?
    Did you get through to the white house?
    Which Obama ?
    How many attempts to “reach” “OBAMA”.
    Did you call ,leave e-mail,fax ,facebook what attempt?

    “POST WHAT’S SO URGENT AND I”LL EVALUATE.”

    That was to be your research not mine as you did commit to it!!!!!!!
    THEN I CAN EVALUATE

    GREAT DEFERRAL!!!!!BUT I AM USED TO DEALING WITH MANIPULATIVE PEOPLE ,MOST WALK AWAY I DO NOT, I ADDRESS THE ISSUE!

  34. Highlander   August 5, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    admin
    August 5, 2013 at 3:32 pm
    K, you two may need a room….a padded one, but a room 😉

    THANKS ADMIN THAT’S GOOD 😉

    I GUESS WHEN ONE IS IN ROME

  35. Furtz   August 5, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Ok bella. I learned a long time ago when to back off. That’s why I’m still alive today. You are right and I am very very wrong. But still, it’s really cool being a very very wrong happy jerk. I hope to extend this state of ignorant bliss for as long as I can. 🙂
    And no Jamie, a room, padded or not, would be a bad idea. My heart is ok, but I don’t want to push it.

  36. stellabystarlight   August 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    highlander wrote: If they can provide for many languages why must Ontario Hospitals only provide for ONE and hire disproportionate to the population for this?

    Ontario provides for BOTH OFFICIAL LANGUAGES OF THIS COUNTRY. Soon Canada will provide for even more. In BC they are encouraging students to learn Mandarin……it’s not for nothing.

    highlander once again is proud to post from another poster: I predict a civil war if things don’t shape up, and quickly.

    NOW THAT IS WONDERFUL………IMAGINE A CIVIL WAR. THAT IS GREAT!!! It surely makes one wonder if he would like that, he keeps on posting it. Scare tactic….who knows anymore with him.

    highlander wrote: We see it ,so do the viewers

    You got that right. Highlander has been right two times.

    The first time he was right was when he said “Because one has some form of education doesn’t mean they are smart. He has proven many many times by his post he is right.

    The second time highlander was right is when he posted: We see it ,so do the viewers….yep you are absolutely right again.
    If you think by your behavior you helping the cause, you better think again.

    To be honest, if I was involved in any way with the LFA I would try to discourage you from posting. You are doing more damage then helping the cause. Of course if you are galganov, the MESSIAH, no one can tell what to do.

    So……..yes you are right the viewers see it and shaking their heads in disbelief. I must give you credit, they do get a good laugh at times.

  37. bella   August 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    stellabystarlight
    August 5, 2013 at 7:50 am
    “…….
    HFTT wrote: How difficult can it be to find “Boulevard Decarie” in English” on a French sign.

    For an idiot it can be difficult. **smile** but I am ahead of the game, I speak both official languages.
    ………”

  38. Furtz   August 5, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    @ Stella. Are you suggesting that Highlander might be The Big G? It would explain a lot.

  39. stellabystarlight   August 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    HFTT…perds pas ton temps avec elle, elle aime ca brasser la merde. Elle n’a jamais rien d’important a dire. Ca fait deux ans que je l’ignore…..peut etre trois **sourire**

    highlander wrote: You must take all of us as fools on here .

    Nope not all, just you **smile**

    Richard wrote: howard again you didn’t check the facts

    He never does. He takes any article and when he sees French bashing, he post it without telling the entire story and how it went down.

    HFFT…..I said that…….For an idiot it can be difficult. **smile** but I am ahead of the game, I speak both official languages.”

    Sorry HFTT…..just wanted to correct it, before they have you in front of a firing squad. I NEVER CALLED ANYONE AN IDIOT. It was a reply to ” How would an unilingual English person not understand DECARIE BVLD. on a sign.

  40. Hungry for the Truth....   August 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Highlander August 5, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    “That was to be your research not mine as you did commit to it!!!!!!!”

    But it’s your insists on this thing that for the 7th time I have tried to lay this to rest. What part of my answer are you not understanding of refusing to understand. If it’s so important to you that you continue posting about it than post what you so
    urgently want to debate and I’ll evaluate. I don’t need to know what they are doing in the USA and in Quebec and in New Brunswick and in Alberta and in Manitoba to know that it has nothing to do with unfair Hiring Policies in CORNWALL Ont.

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 5, 2013 at 12:31 pm
    Some times we have to accept the answers provided, even if they don’t satisfy us. As they say we have to live with it.

  41. admin   August 5, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Furtz Highlander is not Howard.

  42. Highlander   August 6, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    Hungry for the Truth…. August 5, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Some times we have to accept the answers provided, even if they don’t satisfy us. As they say we have to live with it.

    Yes like the earth is the center of our planetary system.
    Yes like you sail across the ocean and you fall off into oblivion in 1492.
    Yes man was made in 6 days and we didn’t evolve.

    And the list goes on…. Just except those answers provided even if they do not satisfy us …..with that mentality science and humans innate needs to understand things around them we would still be with stone tools and living in caves.

    “I don’t need to know what they are doing in the USA and in Quebec and in New Brunswick and in Alberta and in Manitoba to know that it has nothing to do with unfair Hiring Policies in CORNWALL Ont.”

    It is provincial policy with unchecked implementation measures that has created unfair hiring in Cornwall.
    Language laws in any form remain oppressive it should be up to the individual choice and not the state through legislation to encourage assimilation.
    These unfair language laws do not only effect Cornwall but Nationally.

    But your statement infers your closed mindedness as solutions to issues are not only exclusive to the realms within reach but one must “look outside the box” and find solutions to these problems .

    The United States hospital provides linguistic services not just for one but for well over 100 through superior service of technology.
    This remains very relevant to the subject as the conditions of unfair hiring were to provide linguistic services to only ONE GROUP.

    But we all know that it has nothing to do with providing linguistic services to that one language group but to apply “THE AGENDA” AND ENCOURAGE ASSIMILATION FOR JOB OPPORTUNITIES.

  43. Cory Cameron   August 6, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    I’m thinking it’s high time for another letter to the editor.

  44. Highlander   August 6, 2013 at 7:37 AM

    admin
    August 5, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Furtz Highlander is not Howard.

    YOU BLEW MY COVER ADMIN …LOL..LOL
    THEY WERE TOLD ALL ALONG THAT I WASN’T THEIR G ,IN FACT AS I RECALL I WROTE A POEM ON IT!

    BUT THEY REMAINED CLOSED MINDED,EVEN AFTER ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS ADVISING I WAS NOT HE THE G AS THEY CONTINUED AT HURLING INSULTS AT HOWARD ASSUMING I WAS HIM .

    THERE IS THAT CHARACTER BUILDING AGAIN

    KEEP DRINKING THAT COOL-AID STELLA PROVIDES .

    SEE FOLKS I HAVE BEEN TELLING THE TRUTH ALL ALONG ,YET BLINDED BY THAT COOL-AID THEY STILL DID NOT BELIEVE ME !

    FUNNY ISN’T IT ,BLIND TO THE TRUTH EVEN WHEN EVERY EFFORT WAS MADE.

    YES THAT CHARACTER BUILDING .

  45. bella   August 6, 2013 at 7:43 AM

    Hungry for the Truth….
    August 5, 2013 at 3:54 pm
    “No bella, I stick with my claim. No mistake from me. You were not responding to stella but to me. Unless you can give the post that stella called you an idiot you are clearly responding to me. HFTT. I don’t know if you are highlander in diguise or felling the need to take things out of context, or if you just made a mistake so tell me before this goes any further.”

    I provided your proof.
    bella
    August 5, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    And then you posted to someone else like I wasn’t even there.
    Hungry for the Truth….
    August 5, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    So what’s the deal now?
    Are you stella in disguise, or were you mistaken?

  46. Hungry for the Truth....   August 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    bella August 6, 2013 at 7:43 am

    I STAND BY MY CLAIM
    stellabystarlight
    August 5, 2013 at 7:50 am

    “HFTT wrote: How difficult can it be to find “Boulevard Decarie” in English” on a French sign.”
    “For an idiot it can be difficult. **smile** but I am ahead of the game, I speak both official languages.”

    This is not addressed to bella.
    This is a general statement.
    {MODERATED}
    So again BELLA I Stand by my claim.
    If what you claim was true that you were directing your comments to Stella then why do you call STELA GENTLEMEN in your post. There is no Ladies and Gentlemen.

    “So gentlemen, please refrain from amending my posts so that they fit your idea of the world and what you think I meant. Richard said “actually go to Quebec.” I was merely pointing out that he was mistaken in his assumptions yet again”. bella August 5, 2013 at 7:59 am

    So are you Highlander in disguise or are you just wrong.

  47. Hungry for the Truth....   August 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    @furtz
    Sometimes life is inspired by movies. Or does movies inspire life?
    Sometimes to understand someone’s behaviours and comments
    one can turn to a movie. It can entertain us and inform us.

    One that’s worth watching is Minny Me.

  48. stellabystarlight   August 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    cory wrote: I’m thinking it’s high time for another letter to the editor.

    OMG spare us the agony. Thanks for the warning.

    highlander wrote: AFTER ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS ADVISING I WAS NOT HE THE G AS THEY CONTINUED AT HURLING INSULTS AT HOWARD ASSUMING I WAS HIM .

    Whether you are glagonov or not doesn’t make a difference, you are both alike……..radical activist. One is no better then the other.

  49. stellabystarlight   August 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    correction Whether you are glagonov or not doesn’t make NO difference, you are both alike……..radical activist. One is no better then the other.

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