This is history in the making and too important to pass up. South Stormont Council anticipates raising the bar for Ontario and for the rest of Canada at its September 26th meeting. Council will vote on a ground-breaking resolution to honour a section of Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms by committing itself NEVER to infringe upon citizens right of freedom of expression with regard to choice of language. In June of this year, the Ontario Court of Appeal ruled that it was appropropriate to allow municipalities to violate this same right by forcing businesses to post signs in both English and French regardless of who the business’ clients are and regardless of whether or not the business owner and staff are able to speak both English and French. This ruling even applies to specialty markets which cater to immigrants whose mother tongue is neither French nor English.
Your inalienable right to live in the language of your choice is being violated!
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I’m also kinda of anxious for the next federal election. We have had pierre lemieux, who is not representing the francophone population well in glengarry prescott russell. Lemieux, what is his position on this issue. We all know what he thinks of bilingualism in russell or for supreme court judges. Lemieux is another anglo that has a hard time speaking french and before his first election all he could say is… je veux changer circonscription pour le mieux… we need another M.P. for glengarry prescott russell
Thank you so much,Howard.Enough already with the minority of Canada controlling the majority.Things are getting so bad in the Moncton area that I am very depressed and can barely sleep.We moved here 4 years ago and it has become the biggest mistake EVER.I was so naive when we moved here I actually thought I would be able to get a job.Yah,right.Back then I fully believed people were hired based on their experience and nothing more.Not in New Brunswick.Language trumps experience here.Something needs to be done.I want to live in a place were everyone has an equal chance at jobs.Hiring based on merit and experience only.Is that too much to ask for in Canada?God,I hope not.
There are many who would run for the position as Mayor of Glengarry Prescott Russell (Ontario) Patrick but couldn’t get in as they are from the 90% English Canadian population that live in Ontario and would not qualify according to your own words, ” Lemieux has a hard time speaking french.” Sounds pretty discriminatory to me… Of course, if we were in Quebec, that would be one thing as rules are slanted there. But, we’re talking about Ontario, Canada here. And, i don’t give a crap if that community has a predominance of French. It’s still Ontario which has a predominance of English. Think Province of Quebec equals predominance of French thus French rule — Province of Ontario equals predominance of English thus SHOULD BE according to fairness, English rule. But not, it seems, in the messed up totalitarian minds of you and your stripe. Pretty friken sad.
I’m voting for stella as my next MP.
– Maybe if and when Québec separates … eastern ontario towns should fuse with Québec. Hawkesbury, alfred, plantagenet, st-eugene, just to name a few…….Hawkesbury Québec…sounds good. Again, might be something members of my family, but it could happen…you never know.
Mayor of glengarry prescott russell..?? there is no such thing.
There are many who would run for the position as M.P. for Glengarry Prescott Russell (Ontario) Patrick but couldn’t get in as they are from the 90% English Canadian population that live in Ontario and would not qualify according to your own words, ” Lemieux has a hard time speaking french.” Sounds pretty discriminatory to me… Of course, if we were in Quebec, that would be one thing as rules are slanted there. But, we’re talking about Ontario, Canada here. And, i don’t give a crap if that community has a predominance of French. It’s still Ontario which has a predominance of English. Think Province of Quebec equals predominance of French thus French rule — Province of Ontario equals predominance of English thus SHOULD BE according to fairness, English rule. But not, it seems, in the messed up totalitarian minds of you and your stripe. Pretty friken sad.
Happy Patrick? Now how about if you try addressing the reality of what i was saying instead of picking on a small error.
Doesn’t it seem unfair at all to you? i guess not eh? The sky in your world is a different color isn’t it Patrick? You have no sense of fairness do you Patrick? It’s the old “French mentality” that say’s, “what’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is mine too. Dats de ting. hover dare isn’t it?
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As for those areas “fusing with Quebec.” One small problem. THEY ARE IN ONTARIO, Canada. And that would be in the different country, a country called Canada (comprends tu?) after getting rid of that other country called Quebec. Then Quebec can then go about nazi’izing that place even more than it already is now. Best get your passport papers in order. Oh and don’t forget, It’s gonna be tough living on tax revenue from only 3-6 million people (after the exodus). Hey, maybe Quebecors can teach their children that dreaded English language and then make money from tourism from the Americans because as we all know, THEY would not conform to having to speak French to go there.
Oh and remember, have a nice day eh 🙂 Because, every day that ROC tax payers subsidizes Quebecs’ economy to the tune of a 90%-10% ratio is a good day for Quebec. Once that river runs dry it’s gonna be a sad state of affairs hover dare in dat place.
LOL, I don’t think I’m living in a dream world. Again like I said, It could happen. Majority rules, maybe eastern ontario should vote to separate from Ontario. 50 % +1. Lol That’s not what I want, said it in jest. Stella must be LH (instead of my …i’ll say her) FAO. I find this so amusing but come on… YOu actually think they english language is threatened in Québec. Aside from very minor limitations on the size of print in signs, that’s about it. Even the former premier jacques parizeau said, si un Québecois ne veut pas apprendre l’anglais je vais lui botter le cul.
and as for Québec…they send every year 41 billion dollars to the federal coffers. Imagine if they keep all that…heck of a good way to start a country. And I don’t want that … I don’t want Canada and Québec to separate. But taking the separatists side is soo much fun, because first you don’t read the logical replies to baseless facts.
Maybe that is what trudeau meant by canadians not being equal. We can’t be equal, every person is distinct so you can’t ask to be part of a distinct society, every one is different. But there is one thing some canadians like Kilroy, jaime, howard j and beth lack.. CURTESY .. YOu expect everyone to learn english so you guys don’T return the favor. NOT curtesy but laziness.
Patick….laughing my a$$ off…you are truly funny. Patrick, I probably would do better in the election then galganov did when he ran. Yet he is put on a pedestal by these people……..go figure!!! I am sure I would get all the LFA and many other english speaking people **smile**
Let me say this…..Some people are born trouble makers and will never be happy no matter what. They fabricate, instigate and try to divide the population. Take the middle east for instance, nothing will make them stop until they have conquered and have total control. They are killing innocent people to prove a point. It takes a few “hot heads & loonies” to disturb an entire nation. We need not go to the middle east to see the damage that radical activist can do, the same scenario is happening right here, without the killing…..even though civil war was mentioned and has been thrown around by a few. How sick is that to even mention this type of scenario.
What doesn’t make any sense whatsoever is with all the unrest in the world, which could possibly lead to a third world war, people are concerned about langauge. Yep, there could be bombs falling all around us, if things don’t change, yet a small group are concerned about language….how pathetic is that?? Know what? You need to take grow up and take responsibility for the choices you made in life and quit blaming others for your demise.
edudyorlic, in another board you mentioned that when a Quebecois French host said to Mr. Kim Abbot “Your mistake Mr. Abbott was to give us our language and our religion. I can assure you that once we regain power we will not make that same mistake”, – he in fact confirmed that THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS THREATENED in Canada.
The OLA is a threat to the English language and Anglo employment today. The OLA is increasingly DENYING EMPLOYMENT TO ANGLOS in bilingual regions, and franco zealots MPs and the Senators are seeking ways (Bill S-211) to expand this threat to other regions where French services, so far, are based on “sufficient demand”.
It is music to my ears to hear that about 100 service offices have been closed in the ROC in recent years due to insufficient demand. That’s why Franco zealots are desperately seeking to artificially increase demand (changing the definition of “francophone”, Bill S-211) to grab English Canada from coast to coast in their claw.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/Sen/Chamber/411/Debates/083db_2012-05-30-e.htm#32
There you go again Patrick; why can’t you give Lemieux credit for the French that he does speak? . Never good enough is it Patrick.
@Paulp RE: September 14, 2012 at 9:23 pm POST
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Yes, I did post that quote. I remember the first time I actually read it. It struck me as VERY poignant and as a rather telling reference to the “Frenchification” of Canada which we all have witnessed over the last 30-35 years. Like myself, I think most Canadians started out believing P. E. Trudeau’s suggestion to provide services to the French within the Federal government to the degree that was warranted was a good thing. Of course, that is all we were told at that time.
——If you haven’t seen my Pierre and Lévesque conversation vid let me know.
We see now that this has been morphed into the idiocy that we are seeing today. And THAT — is where your reference to the OLA comes in, along with that whole bilingualism/multiculturalism fiasco. All of which is indeed a threat to the English people and the English language in this country. It was orchestrated as such. A very cunning way to strengthen the French culture while at the same time diluting the English culture within Canada. This is why you will see things like the fact that Quebec is the ONLY province to have exclusive power over its own immigration policies. Also why you will notice that Quebec is one of the only provinces that actually sends an envoy to travel with the Prime Minister. To my knowledge the only other province to date that has done this, (maybe once or twice, and that was only because there was special interest in those particular trips due to natural resources/oil) was Alberta. Quebec is also one of the only (if not THEEE only) province to have embassies in other countries. (Hong Kong, Mumbai, Tokyo etc… http://www.gouv.qc.ca/portail/quebec/international/general/delegations/asie/beijing/coordonnees/?lang=en)
They call them “trade and investment offices” but let’s face it, a “province” with these offices in these countries. Not something “provinces” generally have.
They are there to promote the false idea that Canada is a completely bilingual country.
Oh, and guess who pays for them? The Canadian tax payers.
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There are many other pointers that prove that none of this was by chance and was mostly orchestrated with a future vision in mind. Too much to go into here but, much of it is spelled out in J.V. Andrews books. The first book is Bilingual today / French tomorrow. Interesting read which tends to help one recognize how a small group was formed which went on to put in place many of the building blocks that have cumulatively amounted to the entrenchment of “the French fact” that we can readily see in this country today. After all, isn’t it a bit odd that the strongest proponents for Canada to declare itself a “bilingual country” (the Stells’s and the Boucher’s and the Blue Birds etc) — the French — and Quebec yet, the “province” of Quebec passes a law that declares itself as a uni-lingual province? Go figure that one out… So much for Bilingual “COUNTRY.”
PS
Thanks for posting this link Paul.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/Sen/Chamber/411/Debates/083db_2012-05-30-e.htm#32
It was very informative.
Stella, babe. You are intellectually impotent for not being able to shoot Galganov’s message. Only losers go after a messenger.
Stella – Are you threatened by us?? It sounds like you could loose your job if french wasn’t the number one requirement.
My goodness how could your employer survive if he didn’t have a french employee on the internet all day??
Quebec is a happy,welcoming & tolerant society-NOT!!!!
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2012/09/20120914-135850.html
Only a matter of time before the SH*T hits the fan.
This is what happens when governments enforce unjust laws like the Bill 101!!!
DON’T LET THIS HAPPEN IN ONTARIO!!!!!
STAND UP & SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
REMEMBER SILENCE=CONSENT……
DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS NONSENSE IN ONTARIO????
http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/billboard-taken-down-over-controversial-bilingual-sign-bylaw-1.956664#commentsForm-325426
IF YOU ANSWERED NO,WELL STAND UP & BE COUNTED!!!
SILENCE=CONSENT
Surprisingly,you people have forgotten or don’t give a damn, that if the province of Quebec is given the the choice of seperation and is accepted by the Canadian Goverment, the name Province of Quebec will be NON EXISTENT.
That portion of land (Quebec) will be open for absorption by foriegn lands ie. USA,FRANCE,etc.etc. with no mercy to languages.
Monies will not flow to (former QUEBEC) mass exodus of people,companies.
Former Quebec would be a disaster for the workforce there.
Former Quebec would not have the financial capabilites to absorb other provinces or pay their bills.
Just that little bit of above info should excite the french zealots or french anarchist or both, who wish to separate to a joyful life because they like making peoples life miserable.
The funny part about a situation like this, is that they ( zealots,anarchist)would be at the head of the exodus.
This is just a picture of what might happen ( food for thought, PAUL).
Have a nice day.
Many thanks to Howard Galganov for taking this issue of standing up for our rights ! and to Don Smith for allowing us to see, the very many good comments that are being posted here ! Some people are born trouble makers (like Stella, Patrick & Bluebird, etc.) and will never be happy no matter what. They fabricate, instigate and try to divide the population, the same way as P.E.T. had in his “vision” years ago. They all have “thick blinders” on their eyes and can’t see past the end of their noses !! to see how un-equal all these issues are – to ALL of us. It’s sure good to see more and more people standing up for their rights !!
I cannot understand why the feds give the taxpayers money to francophone organizations (Stella/Patrick) to LOBBY AGAINST THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND CULTURE in English Canada. Let the Prime Minister and your MP know your objection, especially that the government is now looking beyond the public service to cut the fat.
the sign where they showed is bilingual ? just wondering if the story is true. And if it is true, who cares its in the maritimes and its in the only official bilingual province, they should be commended not condemned.
JULES !! Where are you ?? No comments lately…..
Karen,
so far i’m one of the rare honest ones out here. Funny thing is, i’m being accused of lying but no one says where ?
Helga……so, what makes you think you will have the authority to dictate to the gov. how things should be done. Who are the english to think they can tell the gov. how our tax dollars should be spent and to whom they should go to. Dream on…..not going to happen. If you guys think you can control, dictate and run the Gov. you are more naive then I thought.
Most that come here don’t even live in Ontario. What happens in Ontario shouldn’t concern them. This is the thing, this group of activist wouldn’t have enough support, so what do they do? They try to lure anyone no matter where they live in this country. More baffling is the fact that many in other provinces are not even affected by this.
Karen……You have no ideas of your own? You must be desperate to make comments when you have to take someone else’s comments as your own. How original!!!
Yup,this is really happening in Quebec.
Get out your spray paint & eliminate ENGLISH!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFMwCVqvM38&feature=youtu.be
How & why have Canadians allowed this to happen in our beautiful country called CANADA????
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE; HELP STOP THE INSANITY!
ALLOW FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO EXIST IN CANADA!
@Patrick B. It seems you have managed to do it again.
That’s right…
You ignored all the relevant questions and ignored all the important facts just so you could repeat your nonsensical mantra …
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“the English are not threatened…”
AND
“Bill 101 is to protect the French and is not discriminatory or fascist.”
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Right, whatever you say Patrick… We ain’t buying it but, we do get it. And getting shafted by it too.
So, in your honor I have a little something especially for you and how you ignore those relevant questions and important facts. http://youtu.be/4H-jIGmPAi4
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Oh — Colleen, Highlander and maybe some others as well.
You might get a kick out of this one …
Now stella said:
Who are the english to think they can tell the gov. how our tax dollars should be spent and to whom they should go to.
Well Stella we are citizens of Canada and we are the 83% majority.
Besides your comment speaks for itself “who are the English”
This is not French against English as you would prefer to defer the subject of equity of rights.
Please continue to open mouth insert foot.
This 83 % is puzzling for me. I have seen it somewhere and i’m just wondering why it exists. Because at roughly 7 million excluding the french population of the maritimes, francophones count for 21 % of Canada. Add it up yourself higlander. 33 millon population, 7 million francophones….your just using figures to your advantage. Stats canada figures are at times not exact…some people might not answer, or some might get check the wrong box.
Roykill where did I write this … “Bill 101 is to protect the French and is not discriminatory or fascist.” Your quoting me …and I don’t remember where I wrote it…what post ? Bill 101 is a good thing for francophones. Had it not been there, Montreal and all of west island would be all anglo. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, it just it comes at the expense of the french language. It is much easier to speak english. I’m just wondering if my father is right, that the only way to save the french language in north america is to have a sovereign Québec. We aren’t getting any help from jaime to keep the french language alive. He says that it is not up to him to save the language, or, curtesy for him is a word not in his vocabulary.
Kilroy, karen, bath, and howard all think its fine and dandy to complain about the language situation in Québec. Even with bill 101, the english language is thriving in Québec. You could be in Trois Rivières and still here some english. Now anywhere for the ROC, when someone asks for service in French, we are either looked at funny or someone has the audacity to say…why don’t you speak english we are in Ontario.
Leader of Quebec Militia charged with uttering death threats to an Anglo Activist in Montreal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=GIWXnxc6Ygs
DON’T LET THIS HAPPEN IN ONTARIO!
STAND UP & DON’T LET THE BULLIES WIN!
Hey EDUDYORLIK, I love your tribute to Patrick B. Priceless!!!
If Québec does secede from canada, I want the french ontario towns to join Québec. Maybe it could be made in the secession meetings before the official formation of the country. towns like st-eugene, alfred, plantagenet, hawkesbury, wendover just to name a few. If not, the big bad assimilation wolf will eat them up.
Canada’s population is 35 million. French speaking speaking citizens account for just over 6 million,those 6 million should be the only ones paying to preserve their(Religion)oops language.
If anyone wants more pay for it out of your own pockets!
Patrick you can keep the welfare state we will have the rest of Canada.Quebec is near bankrupt equivalent to Greece ,many would welcome the loss of this parasite of a province.
But Quebec would be a tiny sliver on the north shore of st.Laurence,the Cree own 2/3 of Quebec well you all know how Quebec treats its minorities,Rupports land will remain in canadian hands .
Please leave Quebec for you have overstayed your welcome ,your parasitic ways will no longer be accepted.
34 482 479 million, the population of Canada. Population of QUébec, 7 979 463 million. And with roughly 800 000 anglos in Québec, leaves roughly 7 million people… ANd I didn’t count francophones outside QUébec which account for 1 million people. So, Getting back to the problem, 34 million… 8 million francophones…23 %.. of the population
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/12-581-x/2012000/pop-fra.htm#t01
Patrick…….you have proved them wrong so many times and they refuse to acknowledge the facts. Ca vaut tu la peine? C’est degueulasse. Ils ne veulent pas comprendre meme si c’est claire comme l’eau de roche.
I notice that the Youtube video of a typical “francophone going apeshit” over a couple of Asian Canadians speaking English in Montreal and threatening them, has been removed after 300,000 views. Which racist francophones complained about that?
And Boucher is assuming only 800.000 anglos and NO immigrants whose first language is not French. THAT is how he twists the figure.
Actual percentage of francophones OUTSIDE Kaybec? 3-4%. Actual percentage of anglophones INSIDE Kaybec? 10-15%. Treatment of francophones OUTSIDE Kaybec? First class, Frecnh-only and French-first institutions in every damn province.
Treatment of anglophones INSIDE Kaybec? Shoddy, discriminatory, threats and bullying. And yet he dares tell us that it is perfectly OK for French to be forced on the rest of Canada?
He does have one point: If Canada kicks Kaybec out there should be some French Ontario towns that should be allowed to join the new nation. Of course, he DOES NOT say (which I must emphasize) that the current racist province houses many loyal Canadians OUTSIDE Montreal, especially in West Kaybec (Pontiac, Hull etc.) that should equally be allowed–hell, encouraged and welcomed—into English Canada.
His figure of whatever Kaybec pays into Canada is a straw man (or red herring, choose your metaphor) since he DOES NOT include yearly equalization payment of $8 BILLION (or is it $10 BILLION this year?) from ENGLISH CANADA that would dry up in a separate 3rd world country. Not to mention Kaybec losing 90% (or more) of the CANADIAN military personnel stationed in what would become foreign territory unless Canada annexes those areas.
And CC2? I have been using that term (silence is consent) for a while now—but I don’t own it, and you are welcome to it. IN my context, I use it to remind anyone who tries to tell me that MOST francophones are not racist anglophobes and are loyal to Canada and despise the government’s actions and those of their extremists. I remind THEM that I look froward to thousands of francophones demonstrating in the streets and on TV and media AGAINST Bill 101, demanding fairness and justice for anglophones in that province, and rolling back the unjust laws that have been around for 40 years. So far, I can easily make out Colleen’s crickets.
Wrong link, bogus data, Patrick. It does not show the number of anglos and francos there. Wait for Oct. 24 when it would be released.
Quebec allophone population? At least 500,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allophone_(Quebec)#Demographics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Quebec
Or:
FRANCOPHONES (not all racist) 5.9 million
ANGLOPHONES almost 600,000
both 43,000 (Does Boucher claim that “only” 0.6% of Quebecers are bilingual?)
OTHER LANGUAGES, almost 950,000.
NON French-first population: 21% in Kaybec alone.
Canada? INCLUDING Quebec?
Mother tongue French 21.7%
MOTHER TONGUE English 58.2%
Other language: Just under 20%
Current population: Estimated 34 million
Francophones outside Quebec: 1.4 million
or FIVE PER CENT of Canada.
Them’s the facts.
English Canadians constitute a higher % in Kaybec than francophones do outside Canada. And where are the English-only hospitals, schools, institutions, etc paid for by Quebec or even all of Canada?
Cue the crickets.
You say you do not believe in stats Canada before ,and references through stats Canada is caring from 17-22%,either way lets see 17-22% francophones only working for gov not 65% it does not make sense to hire 3x that of what exists in the community.perhaps in Quebec gov could hire 11% Anglo’s as that.what exists in their community or would that be 33% like the Canadian gov does.
Why are you “francophones” not posting your real names on this site??? From what or whom are you hiding from?
It seems Stats Canada gives different numbers in their different products on the same topic. After all, the Conservatives were right to dismantle the long census. It did not give accurate portrait anyway.
“Anglophones share of the Canadian population dropped from 59.1% in 2001 to 57.8% in 2006.
The same is true for Francophones. Their share of the population declined from 22.9% in 2001 to 22.1% in 2006.
The decrease is largely attributable to the rapid growth of the immigrant population, more so for Anglophones than for Francophones.”
http://www12.statcan.ca/census-recensement/2006/as-sa/97-555/p1-eng.cfm
We don’t know yet the data on official languages for 2011 Census. It would be released on October 24, 2012.
@ ADMIN.
I find it very frustrating some choose to write in FRENCH,so
Anglophones,like myself can not understand.
Other forums,like the Standard Freeholder, require English only or vice versa to write comments.
To me this the epitome of rudeness!
Here is the link for the netiquette rules of SF.
http://www.standard-freeholder.com/netiquette
Hi CC2. I don’t believe personally in language laws even if it slows down moderation. http://translate.google.com/
works pretty well.
Btw, we even have ran items and ads in French. I believe that in Canada we can tolerate both of our official languages although I would tend to agree that when it comes to jobs the playing field should be fair and that the status quo is defo not fair.
Surely you know how reliable wikipedia sites are, those sites can be edited by anyone. I could edit the page and say that janis joplin is still alive. 34 million — 7 million francophones (or so) plus I proved it with a stats can site. Je sais stella, je te fais cette promesse, je ne le ferai plus. Frustrant de savoir que des gens choisissent d’être ignorant. Et l’administrateur est tellement biaisé..
now Patrick after all of the hospitality I’ve given you personally why on earth would you insult me in that manner? I have zero bias. I have my positions and opinions which I state and have allowed you to do so in kind no matter how wrong or silly they are. It’s that kind of behavior that really burns bridges instead of building them.
Shame on you sir and I use that term loosely.
@ ADMIN.
I’m sorry to harp on this,but when “they” write half English & then half French,my translator doesn’t recognize this. So,I get no translation. “They” know this & therefore makes “them” rude in my opinion!!
Secondly,it reminds me of “highschool”, whispering behind someone’s back! Again, RUDE….
To me,this is no different then having a conversation, so again RUDE to speak in a language someone else does not understand.
Sorry,but “their” behavior is RUDE in any forum to speak in a language others DO NOT UNDERSTAND!
Lou Israel September 16, 2012 at 11:40 am
Lou said, “I notice that the Youtube video of a typical “francophone going apeshit” over a couple of Asian Canadians speaking English in Montreal and threatening them, has been removed. Which racist francophones complained about that?”
Likely EXACTLY what has happened Lou. One complaint from one of “them” and oceans are drained in order to take action. Contrary to the way things work when others like “the English” complain about something the French are doing.. I kick myself as i was going to copy it so i could keep my own copy but didn’t.
@Lou Israel RE: September 16, 2012 at 11:40 am POST
Lou said, “And CC2? I have been using that term (silence is consent) for a while now—but I don’t own it, and you are welcome to it. IN my context, I use it to remind anyone who tries to tell me that MOST francophones are not racist anglophobes and are loyal to Canada and despise the government’s actions and those of their extremists. I remind THEM that I look froward to thousands of francophones demonstrating in the streets and on TV and media AGAINST Bill 101, demanding fairness and justice for anglophones in that province, and rolling back the unjust laws that have been around for 40 years.”
The part about “looking forward to the thousands of francophones demonstrating in the streets against Bill 101” etc. etc. is indeed, “the concept of what is needed.”
I so often hear the news media or others saying, “oh, it’s just a small group of radicals. Don’t apply this to the whole population.” It bothers me because I then see the masses (definitely not just “a small group”) of people celebrating “French day” (oops, I mean “St Jean Baptist day”) carrying their oh so sacred Fleur De Lys flags it is usually VERY clear that if someone were brave enough to attempt to walk along side them with a Canadian flag they would no doubt be physically accosted — (and have been as there are many news reports dealing with folks being beaten in Quebec for doing similar type things on many St Jean days.) I have a feeling that for every one “radical” in the limelight “doing whatever” there are likely 10 sympathizers at home silently cheering them on but would likely respond to poll question like, “do you believe Bill 101 is unfair and oppressive to the English ?” by saying, “yes.”
I also believe and completely agree that more of those who are opposed to what is happening in Quebec should indeed be vocal — MUCH MORE VOCAL —
However, I do not completely agree with the idea that “silence is consent” OR “silence = consent.”
There are too many grey areas involved. IE: Some are silent because they have no opinion at all, and some are silent because they don’t know anything about what is happening (I know, this is sad state but still, a valid one unfortunately.) I am sure there are many other scenarios that fall into this grey area as well. Thus, these individuals and groups cannot be considered to be consensual just by the reasoning that they are silent. Too much of a blanket term for true debaters. But again, just for the record. I DO agree that those silent francophones SHOULD BE speaking on behalf of their fellow Canadians. Perhaps that would even give pause to the radicals and the hard line separatists. Hummm, I wonder if those opposing French folks would face the same aggressive, in your face beat down anything or anyone that doesn’t agree with your position as well? Ah yes.. They call those special French people, “traitors.” Here are a couple of examples. Oh and btw, I call these folk fine Canadians … http://youtu.be/2XlI3-AURf0 AND http://youtu.be/2XlI3-AURf0
CC2 you can cut and paste the portion you wish to translate. It’s not against the rules to be rude as seen by Patrick’s last comment. It’s against the rules to be personally abusive.
Guys why are you still fighting French/bilingual advocates on this forum? Who are you trying to convince here? All you’re doing is raising your own blood pressure by constant bickering back and forth.
Don’t acknowledge them anymore and I tell you – you’ll be the better for it!
I myself got tired of it and don’t worry – none on the other side will go beyond posting rude comments with fake monikers! I don’t see their side out picketing? Do you?
Why not? Because they have one-sided laws that do it for them. That is, Bill 101 in Que., OLA/FLSA in Ontario. Get out there, protest with LFA, CLF and write to your elected representatives and demand change.
You have about 5 years to do so before the English language is in serious trouble and the full fledge war of eradication begins on the English language. As of now, Russel Township is only the beginning. The employment problems are only the beginning. This slow advancing march of French only this and that is only the start. The war is already lost for the English in Quebec………Ontario is now the battleground for equality.
There are those who still fight and fight and fight. I haven’t commented in a few weeks just to monitor things and see how it has developed. I cannot believe I just read that there is a blogger on here who suggested annexing whole Ontario towns for Quebec!!!!
Well folks, stand up because this is the mentality of the other side. Beware Manitoba – you’re next in line!
Ok, I’m going to try and explain myself, even though stella asked me not to. The word biasé in french can be attributed to an opinion. What I mean is that in my opinion, and I might be wrong, is that jaime lets his personal views sometimes cloud his judgement ……why else would he write on language all the freakin time. On your last 10 articles jaime, more then half must be on language and in Québec. You left the province and now write for Cornwall free news… I just don’t get the constant QUébec bashing.
YOu have been promoting language fairness agenda and howard galaganov, and that I don’t like. I know I am free to go elsewhere or read other free news but I somehow feel compelled to be the voice of reason.
I might not have expressed my thoughts in the proper way. I”ll try this.
Tes critiques sont souvent biaisé par tes experiences personnelles. Tu ne peux pas être objectif et faire un rapport des faits.
I’m going to try google translations…here is what it says
Your criticisms are often biased by your personal experiences. You can not be objective and report the facts..
pretty good translation if I do say so myself