CFN – It was an historic and emotional night at South Stormont Ontario Council. After a near 20 minute presentation from language activist Howard Galganov council voted unanimously to pass a new by law that categorically states that in South Stormont Ontario businesses can put any language they wish on their signs.
Galganov recent battles in Russell Township Ontario where it is law requiring both English & French on signs triggered the “Push Back” the first ever in over 40 years of official bilingualism in Canada.
Mr. Galganov’s speech also targeted MP Guy Lauzon whom Mr. Galganov stated he spoke to urging the MP to attend and support the intiative,but Mr. Lauzon was said to have commented that it was “too controversial. Several in the crowd called for the MP’s resignation showing their anger at his lack of support for them and their community.
Howard’s UNEDITED speech
The crowd responds to Howard’s speech and Mayor Bryan McGillis and council vote.
Mr. Galgonov and council drew three standing ovations from the crowd of nearly 300 with a very loud roar after council voted.
It’s amazing how one letter to the editor by Dr. Dany Tombler of the Cornwall Community Hospital and the perseverance of Nurse Christopher Cameron and his tiny group’s protest over bilingual hiring practices at the hospital have galvanized support in Eastern Ontario; not against the French language or culture, but of the unfair policies that are seeing a migration of young people from their communities and a seemingly unfair hiring and promotion process skewed to those that speak or are French.
MPP Jim McDonell did not attend the event either, but did send his executive assistant. No representative of Cornwall City Council showed, but we did wave hello to City Clerk, Denise Labelle Gelinas on our way in. It’s amazing how many top wage earners from Cornwall Ontario’s government live outside the city limits?
The meeting in Long Sault Ontario drew media from as far away as Ottawa!
For tonight the residents and government of South Stormont basked in the glow of their historic accomplishment. It should be interesting to see the response locally and across Ontario and Canada.
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@Stella,
Thank you. I will look more closely at the pamphlets you mention and see if there’s any suggestion to abolish French. That would greatly disturb me.
BTW, I do not “follow.” I line up behind no one. But I do notice (most often with respect) people who show leadership.
Freedom of Expression, that’s all it is Stella. Nobody is calling for abolition of the French language. Please give an example of where Mr. Galganov is calling for the abolition of the French language!!! You will not find 1. I’m calling you on this one !!! Answer ME!!!!! if you dare!!!
The OLA did not intend to make private businesses bilingual in any form or shape. Which voodoo book do the “honourable” judges read their “laws” from?? Me thinks MP Guy Lauzon is onto something by implying the Charter is “controversial”. Perhaps, it’s time to ditch it for something coherent that gives equal rights to ALL people. How about our o’le Canadian Bill of Rights that had language rights for ALL Canadians? Why Trudeau took those rights out and gave them only to his people, the French? That is unCanadian.
Kudos to the Stormont Township leadership. It proves time and time again that grassroots people are the salt of the earth.
Congratulations to the South Stormont Ontario Council for having the courage to implement a law protecting the rights of citizens to post signs in the language of their choice. Few politicians have had the fortitude to stand up for the rights of English-speaking Canadians since Clifford Lincoln resigned from his position in the cabinet of Quebec’s premier Robert Bourassa over language legislation with his declaration “Rights are rights are rights.” We need more politicians to defend our rights such as Clifford Lincoln and the South Stormont Council have done. A good start would be to abolish the federal office of the Official Languages Commission, which really should be called the Office for the Protection of French Language. It’s time for our M.P. Guy Lauzon, and our M.P.P Jim McDonell, to step up to the plate and put an end to the harassment by francophone language zealots who are trying to Frenchify eastern Ontario.
cityBS said,
“And don’t be surprised Stella to see this debate in the next Federal Election, and when that 1 politician takes the stand to fix this issue, there is roughly 85% english speaking Canadians ready to vote, then what will you do?” —– Well said citiBS…
And, please make it so. It’s been too long in the waiting. Someone who speaks for the majority — the way things are “supposed to be — ” Not to quash the French minority as they are trying to do to the English minority in Quebec (something Stella and Patrick just don’t see) but to bring back a balance — an appropriate “fair” balance — A balance where by the English people in the “province” of Quebec are no longer treated as second class citizens in their own country and the English majority outside of Quebec are no longer restricted by stupid bilingualism standards from getting jobs in their own federal and provincial governments (not to mention restricted from becoming PM or the leader of the official opposition of this great country for that matter.) The injustice MUST come to an end. All I can say is, IT’S TIME.
It is about time we, the English speaking people of Canada, got some head way. As for you Patrick,did you notnow that the two official languages of Canada was English and Latin? We also had French, too and then this got changed to English and French where Latin was dropped. How do you think I felt when they said it was compulsory to take French? I felt like it was being forced on me when we had two other choices besides English to take? So with this piece of information, just THINK about it. Our rights wee infringed upon by this Charter. Don’t be fooled by my last name if you see it as I am not French but did study it and you know what te problem was? It wasn’t the proper French for us to learn. I do love the language but don’t shove it down my throat. Furthermore, anyone studying english who were French, studied it in the Frnch language. So that was not right. So before you go off on your rampage, take it from someone who lived through this era. I KNOW how it feels to have something forced on us. Also, there are many cultures. Where I grew up it was called Glengarry County which was made up of Scotch people and this was where I went to lower and high school. You know what eventually happened with this French and English problem? If you were English you spoke to an English principle and if you were French you spoke to the French principle. This was discrimination. I told the Both principles what I thought of this and stood up to the French one. Another thing that had happened was a line went down the center of the hallway and the French walked on one side and the English on the other and this was done by the French and you wonder why we are so happ with Howards success? You are so blind. So if I were you I would be quiet as we have taken enough from the French. Everyone has a culture so it should be shown in the right way
as even where I am now this city was made up of German’s, Dutch and the like. So knock off the bull****.
Thank you Howard and keep going as I am with you on this!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brilliant… Guy Friendly
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Few politicians have had the fortitude to stand up for the rights of English-speaking Canadians since Clifford Lincoln resigned from his position in the cabinet of Quebec’s premier Robert Bourassa over language legislation with his declaration “Rights are rights are rights.” We need more politicians to defend our rights such as Clifford Lincoln and the South Stormont Council have done. A good start would be to abolish the federal office of the Official Languages Commission, which really should be called the Office for the Protection of French Language. It’s time for our M.P. Guy Lauzon, and our M.P.P Jim McDonell, to step up to the plate and put an end to the harassment by francophone language zealots who are trying to Frenchify eastern Ontario.
This is THE biggest scam, the biggest fraud and lie ever forced upon the Canadian public. People have no idea what this man Trudeau did to this country.
“Quebec can make French the only official language in spite of the Constitution”. Pierre Trudeau, .
“There is no way two ethnic groups in one country can be made equal before the law….and to say it is possible is to sow the seeds of destruction”. Pierre Trudeau,
.” ….Given these facts, should French-speaking people concentrate their efforts on Quebec or take the whole of Canada as their base? In my opinion, they should do both; and for the purpose they could find no better instrument than federalism”, Pierre Trudeau,.
“I cannot swear it but I think we were thinking to ourselves,… we are a small group, Trudeau, Pelletier, Marchand, Lalonde, Chrétien, myself and a few people in the civil service, say 50 all told…we were bringing off a revolution. We held the key posts. We were making the civil service bilingual (French), kicking and screaming all the time”. Jean-Luc Pepin, Minister of Industry, 1970.
50 years of spin, lies…thats what we have got. They are changing the names of towns, streets, counties, bodies of water, riding names…and I’m not taking about kebec any longer. It’s now going on all over the country; it’s a mess in Ottawa where they name things after anti-English language bigots and racists all the time. They are slowly wiping out our English, Scottish, Irish, United empire loyalists history. Just like they’ve been doing in Quebec for the last 5 decades (bills 22, 178, 101…)…This is one of the main reasons we are not teaching any history from 1760 to 1982 in our schools any longer. These racist people control government, the curriculum, our money…we get a daily dose of spin, lies and propaganda.
Wake up… They run everything in Ottawa, they funnel the money where they want, spin, lies, propaganda, revisionist BS … Proof – In that there is constant pressure to rewrite our history – to pacify the cranky Province of Quebec and the “french “outside Quebec – the reason we lost the Red Ensign in the first place – we must do what we can to protect and preserve our history. A history that is under constant attack. Very few Canadians are aware that we now have portraits in our parliament of French Kings – who had nothing to do with the building of Canada- the statue of General James Wolfe no longer overlooks the Plains of Abraham, the only statue in Quebec City is of the losing General, Montcalm. There are statues of three French generals but no statues of the victorious generals at the Valiant’s memorial in Ottawa. That’s right, no General Wolfe, no General Amherst, No Gen. Murray… This historical revisionism is going on right under the noses of the Governments we elect – and they remain silent!
The simple facts are as more francophone’s get hired for all government positions less and less English speakers are working for their own governments across the country. Don’t believe me; Go check the stats for yourself. Francophone’s are over-represented in all levels of government including hospitals, law, policing…etc. No fairness, no representation by population. They call it bilingualism, yet the term is never defined on purpose and believe me it doesn’t mean fluency in 2 languages in Canada, at least to the French it doesn’t. No political party will speak for the English speaking majority in this province and country. Practical bilingualism, where numbers warrant… is never defined on purpose. In Ontario, NB it now means segregation. The French (they are actually metis, a mixed race, not french) are demanding French only facilities all over the province, not bilingual, French only. $ Bilingualism is really nothing more then a hiring quota for francophone’s and that is a fact…just ask yourself, why are francophone’s over-represented in all government jobs and how come more and more positions are being designated bilingual all the time? And just as important, how come they are NOT fluently bilingual? Some can barely speak English!
See whats really going on here?
So while Quebec bans the English language (bill 22, bill 178, bill 101…), wipes out its real BNA, UEL history, while ethnic language cleansing is going on in Quebec, the rest of the country is forced to fund whatever the French (metis) demand. This is going on in every province. Go check.
“First Quebec, then we take over the rest of the country, one step at a time…through bilingualism…” PT, “How to take over a country through bilingualism…” SD. How ? First comes the right to communicate with gov’t in a minority language (ie French),then comes bilingualism, then comes the right to work in the language of choice(ie French), then comes a bilingual boss,(ie French) then comes a exclusively French department and on it goes until its all French. Its happening all over the country, Ontario, New Brunswick…That’s what’s really going on.
Go learn our proud, real BNA and UEL history. These were the builders of our country since 1763. Not this phony, revisionist lie, this bilingual, multicultural, 2 founding nations, linguistic duality lie, propaganda, spin that we’ve been living with since Trudeau, and kebec forced this upon the nation. We’ve been part of the British Empire since 1763 and officially an English speaking country for over 200 years…just a fact.
NO English speaking politician is telling you the truth, is exposing what is really going on.Not one politician, party has the decency, the honesty to expose the truth, to speak the truth,how pathetic. Poor Canada, what a mess. Please spread the word.The truth about Trudeau would be nice for a change. The man was a racist, an anti-English language, anti BNA bigot. Go read his writings; he despised our real BNA, UEL history.
Until the charter and all the bs (bilingual, multicultural, phony rights…crap) connected to it gets repealed, we will continue to self destruct as we have for the last 5 decades.
Wake up people.
Isn’t it interesting that what I spoke about and warned constituents about 25 years ago …has now come to pass.No… I am not dead but very much alive indeed now that I finally see people standing up and saying ….”IT’S ENOUGH !!!!!!
In 1987 and 88 when I raised this issue ..I was called everything from a bigot to insane . My family had death threats as did I .
This is far more than a Charter of Rights Issue .This is an issue of POWER.
As long as the English speaking people refuse to realize that there is something here to be concerned about then there is no hope IN RESOLVING IT.
Mr Cameron …I I admire your courage and wish you well …however BEWARE….YOU MAY WELL CLIMB OUT ON THE LIMB AS i DID AND YOUR OWN FLOCK WILL SAW IT OFF !!!Because they are afraid of their jobs or of offending someone.
We are offended EVERY DAY But that does not seem to matter to most people.
In 1988 I predicted that this language issue would gravely affect our families in the future . well speaking for my own family ..It certainly has !!
I am considering to re-join this issue and to allow my experience to help those in the forefront.
We are in the saddest of times for our province and for our country.
Triste et dommage…
– every year the french language is declining in statistics, but some unilingual anglos don’t care. Replying that its not up to them to save the language. Its much easier to speak english, 77 percent majority, more then 300 million anglos throughout North America. All we want is a little recognition where numbers warrant the need. Now I can just guess the replies I’ll get, well most francos speak english, learn the language of the majority.
Well, we all do learn the language of the majority, we only ask that where there is 5000 people and up you provide us with the same curtesy we give you. Bilingualism only costs less then 1 % of the national budget, and francophones comprise of at least 21 % of the population of Canada. Aren’t we do at least that…
Some will say no, that its not fair, and the french language is forced on us in russell. Well alot of things are forced on me that I dont agree with but I do it anyways. I pay too much taxes, I can only water my lawn after 5 pm, Electricity prices and gaz prices are too high.
– Francophones in eastern ont speak both official languages, its easy for them to speak english. but when your confronted with a serious ailment, and when you require immediate medical service, to most its not that easy to switch back and forth from english to french. Even if you are almost perfectly bilingual.
There is no injustice, but just a perception. Howard has done his job well, made it look like its a case of freedom of expression…and its not. English is the international language, it doesn’t need promotion or protection, it is not under any threat of assimilation. By default howard is getting what he wants, and for that matter the lfla. By making it look like its a human rights issue, you play on the sympathy vote… might be working for some, thank god the majority is seeing right through this as a pathetic attempt for attention by howy and his LLFA cohorts.
http://magzquebec.com/actualite/?p=20828
http://www.imperatif-francais.org/bienvenu/images/stories/articles/6430-Wipe-Out_Franco-Ontarian.jpg
how can anyone take this idiot seriously !!
“you provide us with the same curtesy we give you.”
And Patrick that’s all that Anglos are asking. Francophones are not being asked to pass high proficiency English tests to attain or protect their jobs.
This is about jobs and business. There is a system that is entrenched that creates an un level playing field.
That system is not acceptable anywhere in Canada.
All I can say is FAIRNESS & FREEDOM : )
JAime, I don’t know if I can say this with respect, but I’ll repeat the words you ounce replied to me ¨POOP¨. Curtesy you give us, PLease. You moved from Québec because you didn’t want to learn french, and wanted everyone else to learn english. That is not curtesy. Every francophone learn english, while unilingual anglos, such as yourself don’t have to go through the effort of learning another language. That is not giving curtesy, thats is all out laziness.
Patrick, as a keen observer to various job boards, there has been a marked increase in positions listed as bilingual. Online employment sites are making decisions by a computer (before a human Recruiter) on who is acceptable to even apply for work, and these positions are deemed bilingual only because people have been told they can work in the language of their choice.
Government needs to return to helping those that need it, and perfectly bilingual employees should be on the front line fielding concerns from citizens, and much like Bank Tellers have seen change with ATM”s, technolgy can be used in many areas to provide the help.
Patrick I left Quebec because it’s an unjust society where if you’re not Pure Laine ultimately you’re not equal. End of. I could have stayed; one day I may return; but Quebec is a banana republic. It’s a charming and beautiful one, but still one. I don’t want to live in a place with “Language Police” I don’t want to have to face courts or other situations with that linguistic stink.
Don’t put words in my mouth ever friend. If you want to quote then quote. You pull that stunt again and you lose the courtesy and respect you get here.
Three cheers for Howard Galganov and three cheers for South Stormont Mayor and Council
My husband is bilingual, (forced for employment purposes); the rest of my family is linquistically challenged..English only. I am British by birth, Canadian by choice and I weep for my “home and native land”. Like many other Canadians I was a staunch supporter of the French Canadian’s right to live in the “language of choice”. Big mistake!! We gave a furlong and like all bigots they took a mile. Now we live under a system which could be described as the “tyranny of the weak”. With the support of the silent majority Quebec took over and the rest is, unfortunately, history. Outside of Quebec, Ontario, New Brunswick and Manitoba the problem of bilingualism is non existent except for those of our children who wish to join the Federal Public Service, then all the rights shift to those who are mother tongue French. Now, Graham Fraser, the biggest bigot of them all, dictates while those who could staunch the erosion of Anglophone rights do nothing. The majority fiddles while our beloved country goes to hell in a handbasket.
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Just a big thank-you to Howard Galganov & South Stormont council & many,many,more who have been working tirelessly on our behalf.Folks this is only the beginning !!!!!!,they need our continued support,don,t let us continue to be VIGILANT !!!!!!
VERY well said just Mary (Atkinson?)
Just Mary September 28, 2012 at 9:02 am
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Like many other Canadians I was a staunch supporter of the French Canadian’s right to live in the “language of choice”. Big mistake!! We gave a furlong and like all bigots they took a mile. Now we live under a system which could be described as the “tyranny of the weak”. With the support of the silent majority Quebec took over and the rest is, unfortunately, history. Outside of Quebec, Ontario, New Brunswick and Manitoba the problem of bilingualism is non existent except for those of our children who wish to join the Federal Public Service, then all the rights shift to those who are mother tongue French.”
So true, we all sort of went along out of a sense of fairness. And yes, you are doubly right that it was a BIG mistake. They indeed took a mile and they are still taking it. For this reason we MUST unit now without further delay as each day we let this continue is a day that will see to it that your other statement,
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“Outside of Quebec, Ontario, New Brunswick and Manitoba the problem of bilingualism is non existent.”
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will become an incorrect one as well. AND THAT will mean the end of Canada as we know it. WE MUST stand NOW. Tell everyone you know. Speak loud and proud. Get them to read this forum and watch video’s etc etc etc.. Help people become aware.
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TO: Just Mary
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Bob said, “I am considering to re-join this issue and to allow my experience to help those in the forefront.”
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Jaime didn’t you say it was a question of choice for you. And that you didn’t owe anyone curtesy on language unless they speak to you in english. Also, that you weren’t that enthused on learning another language.
– Now I might be wrong, looking for a direct quote, can’t find it.. perhaps you can correct me.
BRAVO South Stormont. Next move – dump the coward Guy Lauzon and elect Howard Galganov. Canada can no longer afford to tolerate the looters and the parasites who would harness the rest to laws that give them the right to make slaves of the builders and creators. Your new bylaw does one thing only – it gives all of you the individual right to express yourself in the language that you choose dictated by one thing only – the power of the marketplace not the brute force of unequal and unfair laws. According to many comments here they still want to make it about “protecting” their rights and abandoning yours. Stop apologizing for wanting to be human to those who insist that you owe your enslavement to their NEEDS.
Patrick if you can’t find a direct quote you don’t say it as a direct quote. Get it? Got it? Good.
Guy Lauzon said to Galganov that the Charter’s right to the freedom of expression is “CONTROVERSIAL” when anglos claim their unalienable right to run their own private businesses in the language of their choice – English. That’s it, folks, the English language has become “controversial” in Canada in general and in English Canada in particular. We have arrived. English yesterday, French today.
Dump the coward Guy Lauzon and elect our local hero Howard Galganov!
Guy Lauzon represents himself, BBQ’s and photo opps, he has not done much in his riding shy’s from the truth and only opens his mouth when it’s to serve his master. CONTROVERSIAL because Lauzon himself is.
For people like Stella and anyone else who wants proof that Howard Galganov has never said or published anything that would advocate the abolishment of French anywhere in Canada, please read the following:
Howard’s flyer is saying that it is wrong to disallow (by law) French only signs, just as it is wrong to disallow (by law) English only signs. In this country where the Charter (Section 2b) guarantees freedom of speech & expression, why would you pass a law ENFORCING the use of English and French? A business should be allowed to use any language/s it likes – the only entity that should have an opinion on this is the customer who is free to boycott the business if he/she is not happy about anything the business owner does. If people are left alone to make decisions, they usually make the right decisions. People in a free society should not be forced to use any language, no matter how much the minority language group may feel that it is necessary to protect, promote or preserve their dying language.
We are slowly but surely becoming a society too tolerant of fascistic governments which believe in pushing more and more restrictions on our freedoms. If we don’t fight this trend, it will get worse and worse. We only have to look at how far Quebec has gone when it has been allowed to go to such extremes. Now that Marois has come forward with her extremist anti-English stance, the ordinary French-speaker in Quebec feels free to beat up on English-speakers speaking English to each other!!! Read about it here:
http://oqla.org/en/discussion/media/119-child-assaulted-for-speaking-english-in-public#disqus_thread
If anyone wants a copy of the flyer sent out by Howard Galgavov that so many people don’t seem to understand, either because they don’t understand printed English or because they deliberately misread the flyer so as to paint Howard as an anti-French bigot, please contact me. Send $1.00 to pay for the postage to: CLF, P.O. Box 40111, Bank & Hunt Club Postal Outlet, 2515 Bank Street, Ottawa, ON, K1V 0W8
I would like to respond to what Patrick posted:
– “every year the french language is declining in statistics, but some unilingual anglos don’t care”.
Patrick, when people are forced BY LAW to accept 2nd class citizenship, don’t expect them to be happy about it. We have no objections to service in the “language of choice” where numbers warrant. In Quebec, only municipalities with 50% + English speakers get service from their govt. in English. Pauline Marois might even change that so that NO municipalities need to offer service in English at all. She’s rabid enough.
We have no problem with the French-speakers working to preserve, protect and promote their language but don’t legislate it and make the non-French speakers have to suffer just because they are not linguists and don’t see the need for it. Preserve, promote and protect to yourselves so that you don’t get assimilated (if that’s important to you). Create French-only ghettos and go live there and parlez vous all day to yourselves and finally, if your language is declinging, it’s because YOU don’t want it badly enough. Neither do we!!
Opps, just noticed a typo:
Create French-only ghettos and go live there and parlez vous all day to yourselves and finally, if your language is DECLINING, it’s because YOU don’t want it badly enough. Neither do we!!
Am proud of Howard Galganov, Bryan McGillis, Tammy Hart, Chris Cameron, Language Fairness for All and Canadians for Language Fairness….well done, indeed!!!
A proud day to be a Canadian and finally see democracy and common sense restored to all Canadians.
My thanks to Jamie, Don Smith and the Cornwall Free News for bringing the matter to “light” for all to see:)
Now, it’s time to word even harder to spread the word across Canada…it’s time to take our Country back! Wake up English Canada and stand united in our Cause!!! Together we stand united and divided we will fall.
Yes Colleen ,
It was very proud moment for all Canadians .
To have to put in a bylaw to respect and not violate the charter of rights begs to question why?
Because the charter seems not worth the paper as it has been written on,it has violated oh soo many times ,first of all numerous times by Quebec and its bill 101 then Russell bylaw.
Now Canadians stand up don’t allow “Freedom of Expression” to be lost !!!
La perception des choses n’est pas la réalité Kim.
– YOu only feel second class because you can’t speak french. Your at an advantage though, because you could be in shawinigan and still get decent service anywhere. (maybe with a few mins wait) I only have to go to brockville, or even parts of Cornwall, and I have no snow balls chance in heck of getting service in french.
Patrick, which part of “where numbers warrant” do you NOT understand? You seem to have no problem with Quebec’s definition that this means “50%+”. Why should Cornwall or Brockville or any part of Canada have to offer service in French, if the numbers do NOT warrant?
While we’re at it, why don’t we use the quota system? If you have 30% French speakers, you get 30% of the jobs and 30% of the budget spent on providing service in French. That way, we don’t run into the problem of over-representation which is why there is such a outcry.
This link leads you to the Treasury Board report:
http://www.psc-cfp.gc.ca/arp-rpa/2009/st-ts/tbl07/tbl16-eng.htm
Link to it and you see how over-represented the French-speakers are in the public service, right across Canada. Analyse the figures and then ask yourself:
Within Canada 21.8% are French-speaking, yet they are awarded 64.8% of the bilingual imperative position.
In Alberta,1.88% are French-speaking, yet they are awarded 29.7% of the bilingual imperative positions.
In BC, 1.34% are French-speaking, yet they are awarded 45.0% of the bilingual imperative positions.
In Manitoba, 4.3% are French-speaking, yet they are awarded 30.8% of the bilingual imperative positions.
The National Capital Region is 32.8% French-speaking, yet they are awarded 61.0% of the bilingual positions.
If you have a sense of fair-play at all, you would agree that the situation has definitely gone too far.
The population figures are taken from Stats. Can.:
http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2006/dp-pd/hlt/97-555/T401-eng.cfm
Kim
Truly disgusting: Please people be informed its as easy clicking on the link.
People wonder why they don’t have opportunities ,yet this is blatant discrimination of the majority .
PEOPLE YOUR GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATES AGAINST YOU !!!!
For government to hire this disproportionaly only means discrimination!
Put it this way ,if I had a store in a predominantly black neighborhood say 97% ,yet say out of 100 employees all but 1 person was white working in that store what would one think?
How about if as a manager I only hired from one racial group ?
What do you think of french only clinics?
Do you people not understand that we have our own segregation in Canada?
I wonder how things for Quebec would be if in fact they did separate? get your own currency, military, hospital care, create your own boarders, what else??? oh yes we’d be one province closer to NFLD.
What the hell is the point of having a “Canadian Charter of rights and Freedoms” when some politicians, at ANY level can just dismiss it because…….. that’s what “they” want or think it is “good” for us?
This is obviously an act that does not change pre-existing law. Therefore it must be a symbolic act. If we search for the symbolism we can only find the same attitude on the part of these councillors that in my country forced blacks into separate schools and lunch counters and in canada , denied french schools to francophones in ontario and manitoba. Hasn’t the world had enough of people like that? Don’t they have any decency?
@usa eddy, “Denied french schools to francophones in ontario and manitoba.”???
What century are you living in? Don’t try and transfer your American hypocrisy and bible belt conservatism to the Great White North. The problem here is that we are suffering from reverse discrimination. We have been too willing to accommodate the minority language in the governing of this great land and it’s coming back to bite anglophones in the ass. If we had denied the Francophones anything then we might not be in this mess.
The Charter was deliberately designed in such a way as to always interpret it in favour of French Canadians.
The principal draftsman of the Charter was Gérard La Forest, the dean of law at the University of Alberta, later appointed a Supreme Court judge (1985-1997). In Alberta Report (August 1, 1980), Robert S. Matheson, Q.C., described his meeting with La Forest: “I was dismayed to learn how bitterly anti-British La Forest was and how clearly he stated his position that he would do everything possible to advance the position of French-speaking Canadians over English-speaking Canadians”.
So he did. The Charter is stuck up against Anglos’ freedoms. We cannot even put up a sign on our own private businesses in the language of our choice.
Canadians must demand revision and amendment of the Trudeau Charter. It is flawed.
Hi Folks ,
What an evening it was ,you could literally feel the excitement in the air.
It was a win for all people ,in that all businesses have a right for choice of what they put on their signs- well at least in South Stormont.
I was disappointed with Mr.Lauzon .
Agree or disagree the least he could have done was show up,as did the near 300 people and the hundreds of e-mails of concern that Mayor McGillis received.
Do we vote in an MP to avoid those difficult issues?
Do we pay them to pick what issues they wish to address ,or for the issues their constituents want addressed?
Thanks to all those nice people I met and those I unfortunately didn’t that night ,never think that YOU can’t make a difference .
It is empowering to know that your local Government is actually listening ,
for most people feel that government no longer does.
This could explain voter apathy.
Take care my fellow Canadians
Christopher Cameron
Mr. Lauzon has more to think about and more to do then to cater to the LFA gang thats for sure. SS has their own council to make decisions, why should Mr. Lauzon have to attend? Besides you already had a great spokesperson in galganov…..who needs more **s**
Yeah, Mr Lauzon is a busy man. He’s not the one that just goes to say, town hall meetings cause he has nothing better to do, and when the national anthem is playing in french, he leaves the room.
we are martyrs, we are persecuted. english and english speakers are in great danger. yes, we are the next salman rushdie’s of the world, we must defend freedom of speech, freedom of expression. the country is falling apart, the united nations are deeply concerned about the english majority of the country. (by the way, did they write back to us yet?)
we have upstaged syria. we have upstaged the muslim rage coverage and romney’s defense of freedom of speech. our cause is of great concern and were it not for the valiant 200 (or 300? sources vary) at the stormont town hall meeting, canada would have crumbled apart. we are saved.
congratulations! we defended the charter! we defended the right not to learn the second official language, we defended the right for unilingual signage, JUST LIKE IN QUEBEC.
our crusader defended minority rights in quebec and then came to ontario to defend majority rights. he kept losing… but now, finally, a victory. hurray!
it is disgusting how the english are treated in quebec. second class citizens. can’t get any english service. this is my country! why can’t i get service in english in quebec??? i should be treated with respect, even in quebec. why should i be forced to learn french?
freedom of expression depends entirely on the right not to be forced to learn, communicate, post signs, or work in a language that is not mine. that is FREEDOM.
so don’t force me to learn french. i live in ontario.
i don’t want to learn. don’t force me. i am free not to learn it. freedom. free free free.
ah, the freedom of language apartheid. majority rules after all, this is a democracy. majority rule of the french in quebec, majority rule of the english in ontario.
no one can force me to learn any other language. i don’t want to. i shouldn’t have to. that. is. freedom.
i have a dream. i have a dream that i will never be forced to learn the Other’s language, the Other’s culture, the Other’s anything.
the 300 people in stormont will lead the future of ontario.
i am not racist but… those arrogant french people are such elitists.
yes, i DO leave the room when the french version of the national anthem is sung. it’s a free country. and it is a freer province today than it was a few days ago.
I am not racist but… I say things like: “…and not some yahoo francophone with his panties in a bunch.”
Elizabeth Trudeau: “Too bad “recognized” minorities are against our INALIENABLE rights and freedoms.” That is incorrect. Recognised minorities are indeed very much linked to rights and freedoms. Jews were a minority and after the Holocaust, the United Nations has been making every effort to ensure that the extermination of minorities or ethnic groups is never repeated again… but assaults on minorities, various ethnic groups, and peoples continue.
Have you been to a “Third World” country? (I would avoid that term nowadays…)
Cameroon is a bilingual country. Panama is a bilingual country. India, no longer “Third World,” has a much more complex official language system than Canada. There are over ten recognised languages there and each state has different legislation on language rights.
Do you have any lawyers on board? Or human rights’ activists? They could help clarify a few things. I could contact some for you, I know many… but I think they would have to help you completely rework your approach because minority rights are meant to be protected in democracies. They could give you training though.
Hey all you people out there explain to me why these 3 people do not believe in :
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Stellapropaganda said:
” SS has their own council to make decisions, why should Mr. Lauzon have to attend? ”
why should Mr. Lauzon have to attend?
Because its his job ,did we vote him in to avoid issues.
oh ya stellapropaganda see last statement.
Kaede said :(yes more propaganda)
“we are martyrs, we are persecuted. english and english speakers are in great danger. yes, we are the next salman rushdie’s of the world, we must defend freedom of speech, freedom of expression”
more propaganda,
congratulations! we defended the charter! we defended the right not to learn the second official language, we defended the right for unilingual signage, JUST LIKE IN QUEBEC.
it is disgusting how the english are treated in quebec. second class citizens. can’t get any english service. this is my country! why can’t i get service in english in quebec??? i should be treated with respect, even in quebec. why should i be forced to learn french?
I say good point Kaede!
yes folks even more propaganda from Kaede-
“i have a dream. i have a dream that i will never be forced to learn the Other’s language, the Other’s culture, the Other’s anything.”
yves-said:rights are meant to be protected in democracies.
But are rights to be protected at the loss of others rights?
No culture should have more rights then another nor should one cultures or linguistic group have oppress other cultures: in Canada that has become the norm -welcome to Quebec.
Sir we do not live in a democracy ,where yes the minority are protected but is governed by the majority.
Richard tremblay said:
“He’s not the one that just goes to say, town hall meetings cause he has nothing better to do.|”
No but he made a special appearance and dined with 12 elderly folks at a nursing home.
He needs to get his priority straight -dumb simply dumb move to avoid this issue and 300 of his constituents will tell others and so has the newspapers .
He chooses what he addresses not what his constituents want him to address ,really bad move on his behalf he just hurt his party really bad .
THE LEAST HE COULD DO WAS JUST SHOW UP!
I’m far from being a mr lauzon fan. Is I had a choice to dine with 12 seniors, that may have defend our country at war or look at howard galganov s ugly mug. I pick the seniors.
Well folks, where was Mr. guy Lauzon when the village of St. Andrews post office was slated to be close. MP guy Lauzon attended the community meeting that was arranged only to say that it was not his mandate because Canada Post is a Crown Corporation. Imagaine, Our MP would not even help is own village where he resides. This issue was also to controversal. Long story short, the postal service will remain open. Thanks to Earl Depass, Mayor Mcgillis and with community behind them, the postal service will remain open. It was certainly our Mp Guy Lauzon’s mandate to attend South Stormonts meeting that defended our Charter OF Rights. Many of our brave Canadian people died to defend that right and Mr. Richard Tremblay stated he would rather attend a dinner with Mr. Lauzon. Prejudice is the child of ignorance.