CFN – Two guest presenters appeared on the agenda for tonight’s meeting of Language Fairness for All. Human rights activists Howard Galganov and Jurgen Vollrath spoke with tremendous passion about the absolute need for more Canadians to wake up and put a stop to the steady erosion of rights which were defended by our forefathers in two world wars among others.
Galganov said to the assembly:
“I’m pissed off at the way our governments treat us. We’re not a cookie jar for them to grab money and do with it what they want. I will never vote for anyone who’s going to tell me how to live my personal life, but that seems to be what politicians like to do the most. I remember the greatest generation ever … who understood what individual rights and freedoms were all about. And that’s before we had a Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They understood their obligation to their country, to their church or synagogue if they were believers, to their families, to their communities. That’s all gone.”
Our video clip contains his presentation in its entirety.
http://youtu.be/wfe-Wdb1XW4
Later, Vollrath exclaimed:
“We’re pissed! … There are 177 [French language activism groups.] In the City of Ottawa, we found [without any assistance from taxpayer funds] double-dipping by Franco organizations to the tune of $30 million dollars!”
In our video clip you can hear him elaborate on the apparent blind eye turned by politicians.
http://youtu.be/7iEOJWwTRB8
“Up yours, government! You cannot tell us [which language we have to do business in.]”
Not everyone in the gallery was a fan. Although trying to give the impression of being supportive of the group by agreeing that there are injustices in the way “bilingualism” is being foisted upon Canadians, president of the La Société pour la Promotion du Bilinguisme (Society for the Promotion of Bilingualism), Jean Lecompte later tried to mock the group when he circulated a dummied version of a poster welcoming people to the meeting in some three dozen languages, implying that the recently adopted sign bylaw in South Stormont and the proposed South Glengarry resolution are opening the way for every minority group to be able to impose multi-lingualism on everyone. In case there was any uncertainty in Lecompte’s mind that the bylaw actually respects Canadian’s rights not to have any particular language imposed upon them (when it comes to the posting of outdoor commercial signs), some meeting participants quickly set him straight. Lecompte interrupted the meeting a few times and was asked to save questions until the appropriate time at the conclusion of the formal presentations. The meeting chairman actually had to stop Lecompte amid an extended rant during the question period to ask if he really had a question or not. Here is our clip of the question period.
http://youtu.be/rNbrg0N-JNE
You can post your comments below.
Jean Lecompte had to slither out in shame as people were either tearing up his handout or crumbling them & throwing them back at him.
Special thank you to speakers Howard & Jurgen,great job,great passion ,thank you to Laurie who showed & spoke a brilliant presentation & to Ken for keeping order in check.
Howard joked a couple times about being over his allotted speaking time but found it hard to control his passion for freedom of expression,2 minutes squared by 100……We loved it !!!
The big g, galganov himself said: “I will never vote for someone who is going to tell me how to live my personal life. Well…I never did, nor will I ever in the future vote for someone who is trying to divide this country and creating problems where there are none to begin with……thinking it is safe to say many shared my feelings when he ran for elections.
Now be honest here…..Since SS adapted a sign bylaw, how did it change your life? How did it benefit you personally? What did it accomplish other then signing in the language of your choice? How does it benefit a business? I will answer for you, it changed nothing except boasting rights and being able to say we won? So what!!!!
Did McGuinty ever get the issue of Quebec trades being able to work in Ontario with ease, but Ontario trades going to Quebec hit minefields and hoops to jump first?
Good for this group to hold open and advertised meetings, can the same be said for the 177 plus Francophone groups that are funded by all?
They didn’t advertise here Eric.
Well said Jurgen.
Hi all. Sorry I couldn’t be there but, I am glad the video was taken.
What Jurgen described about his sons moving away to gain employment and have a better life, because of the restrictive nature of things in Ottawa, is unfortunately a common refrain.
This “tactic” is exactly how things were done to “get rid of” the English within the “province” of Quebec. “They” just made things so damn irritating and difficult for the English that it was much easier and more profitable for them to just leave rather than go through the cr@p of standing up and fighting back through years of court battles etc etc etc… Of course, once they left the French just filled in the empty void that was left behind. Buying up the houses and taking over the businesses etc etc. And guess what? That is EXACTLY what we have begun to see occurring in Ottawa right now. We are seeing more and more people just deciding to leave rather than fight. But, as we have witnessed already, this will only lead to the same result. The French will end up outnumbering the English and filling in the void. We CANNOT let this keep happening. We MUST not just keep moving away further west and allowing the void to be filled. It may work in the short term but eventually “they” will have such large numbers and such a large power base (as what happened in the “province” of Quebec) that “they” will then control all of Canada and those who left will find themselves back in the same predicament. We MUST find a way to illustrate and or convince those thinking about leaving of this so that we don’t end up with this same scenario being played out.
What to do? Well, for starters, I articulate to everyone how important it is to speak about this issue to friends, family and even strangers. This is ONE OF THEEE most important beginnings to any kind of push back. Keeping in mind that it is also important to be factual while also being aware and concerned about conveying the “real” message. It may not be evident but, when speaking to family at the supper table; The kids do absorb what is being said; When speaking to a friend on the bus or in the restaurant; Strangers do absorb what is being said. Etc… It is important that those that may be absorbing come away from such occasions with a sense of what is right and fair rather than a sense of negativity.
Many times people will then turn around and end up speaking to “their friends” about what they overheard and meanwhile they are being overheard as well … And so on, and so on. Once people get “talking” then the law of averages states that a certain percentage will be more active in their circle and the rest is self evident.
For the record… This is why I am making these video’s available. They can be great tools to “get people talking.” Click here http://www.youtube.com/user/edudyorlik?feature=mhee or click on my pseudonym. 🙂
@Eric RE: October 18, 2012 at 9:30 am POST
Eric said, “Did McGuinty ever get the issue of Quebec trades being able to work in Ontario with ease, but Ontario trades going to Quebec hit minefields and hoops to jump first?”
I have heard of this “problem” Eric. Wondering, do you (or anyone reading) have any links to articles or video regarding this issue ?
LFA should consider advertising here Admin, shop local.
edudyorlik, looks like it is more difficult for contractors in Ontario to work in Quebec. than the other way.
2006 documentation but ask a contractor or trades person if anything changed. http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/jpo/pubs/agreement/index.php
http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/jpo/pubs/agreement/oqlma_3.php
2007 – http://global-economics.ca/ont-que_trade_talks.htm
2012 – http://nodogsoranglophones.blogspot.ca/2012/04/construction-godfather-scarey-figure.html
Has anyone determined whether Jean Lecompte’s presence was funded by our tax dollars? And too, exactly who, or rather, what, organization paid for the production and distribution of these pamphlets?
Mr. Lecompte also (whether by design or an honest mistake) was remiss in including the 150 messages for, ‘Receptionists will respond in 150 languages, we are told’ only including English and French sub-texts. It was if, not sarcastic, an honest approach to fairness. But alas, I digress from your previous meeting with LFA, I think not. Thanks for the cynicism Mr. B!
Thanks good sir for stepping up your level of idiocy yesterday evening.
It is appreciated, needed and should be fostered.
Could CFN determine this: Who paid for Mr. Lecompte’s presence, pamphlets and in what capacity was he there? i.e: Was he representing any French Language Rights’ Groups or was he there as a private citizen and get back to the readership?
Thanks again CFN for the great coverage!
Kind Regards,
Cory
P.S: Stella need not respond to this message as it isn’t meant for her and I don’t feel like being led astray and off topic today.
Great video, edudyorlic, that captured a quintessence of what so-called bilingualism is all about in the Trudeau agenda of transforming Canada into a French state.
http://www.youtube.com/user/edudyorlik?feature=mhee
I’m sorry Mr. Vollrath,
I watched the video and I have to say that there are many Canadian sons and daughters who are being forced to move west because of this stupidity.
I too am like your sons in that I also have had to move away due to this language discrimination.
It’s never easy to leave one’s birthplace.
I’ll add another dilemma as well to the mix. At 33 years of age, I still could never afford to raise a family and if I ever could, I feel it’s now too late to even bother.
I too attended both University and have taken college courses as well; which in turn I thought would have paid handsome dividends one day but has not.
To try and get more experience I joined Boards of Directors and committees – all only to discover it has been a waste of time.
I sincerely hope those folks out west are watching what is going on here because if nothing is done sooner, rather than later, you too will be experiencing what this bilingualism entails.
As the stomach turns…..OMG. Language has nothing to do with graduates having to leave….this has been going on since before you were all born. Did my parents have to relocate to find work….absolutely, did my siblings…….absolutelty, did neighbors and friends and relatives etc etc have to relocate…..absolutely. IT IS A FACT OF LIFE!!!! Capish?
First of all, there are only so many jobs to go around especially in a city of 46,000, putting the blame on language is a cop out plain and simple. Tell me…..for the average person, how many high paying jobs other then manufacturing (Domtar), nursing or teaching was to be found in this city? This thing of blaming language is a joke. It takes determinating and hard work to get ahead in this life……..
I am pissed…….**s**
Not as pissed as we are Stellla girl! So stand back, because if a university degree and tons of experience don’t do it except for language, boy we have a BIG PROBLEM!
Don’t understand this concept, then just stop talking….you are looking more stupid every single time you type!
French language (bilingualism) accelerates the loss of jobs for Anglos. Now they are not welcome as nurses in their own local hospitals and clinics even though there open vacancies. That’s Canadian shame!
Stella said:
“Since SS adapted a sign bylaw, how did it change your life? How did it benefit you personally? What did it accomplish other then signing in the language of your choice? How does it benefit a business?”
What does it matter ?Ask all those big box stores in Quebec why they are bringing Quebec to court over store signs you know or do you understand “trademarks”?
Fore someone who claims this all means nothing you persistently ,you provide constant propaganda -now which french language group do you function for or benefit through financial gain ?
Plus why are the tax payers paying you on government time as YOU are a government worker to propagandize.
Would you have your job if you were not classified as bilingual (french)?
Now stella if you open your eyes for ONCE you will see a disproportional amount of Quebec Cars working at Ontario provincial institutions as well as federal institutions .
Therefore Stella think of what you said:
“Did my parents have to relocate to find work….absolutely, did my siblings…….absolutelty, did neighbors and friends and relatives etc etc have to relocate…..absolutely”
Did they come from Quebec?
Just watched the video. Merci Monsieur Lecompte.
Scripted answers ready from LFA members, no respect for Monsieur Lecompte given… shame.
So long as Quebec (my former home) smirks while giving the finger (as arrogant opportunists are wont to do) to any language but La langue de chez nous, don’t expect people to bend over.
And by the way, as we speak, there’s a little girl lying in hospital in Birmingham, shot in the head because she dared to say girls have right to an education. In mentioning her, I simply want to draw attention to why freedom of expression is so essential.
By the time we’re all dead and gone, let’s hope Canadian kids will have learned to speak Mandarin, Spanish, Arabic or whatever…not because politicians have dictated it but because the evolution of the planet makes it sensible.
This is not an issue of the English language v. French.
Richard to receive respect one must be respectful to others !
Mr.Lecompte was interjecting numerous times during the presentation and upon question period he had no question but a statement all written out prior and had nothing to do with the presentations.
This was completely disrespectful not only to LFA but as well as the audience
By the way no scripted answers ,all was spontaneous.
I am glad you were there sir to see it,or were you?
lolo….now now, if the only response you have is calling someone stupid it speaks volumes about your own intelligence, of which you are lacking big time……now I am really pissed **smile**
Piper….to make myself understood, because obviously you don’t understand here goes…..As far as I am concerned, the entire sign issue is ridiculous whether it is here, Quebec, BC or wherever. Do I personally think that signage is being pushed too far in Quebec……absolutely. Should the big box stores fight to keep their trademark sign…….absolutely. It would be laughable if it was not so pathetic. So……that being said, it’s the entire issue that is pathetic and comes off as being petty and ridiculous, especially with everything that is going on in the world today. Let Quebec deal with their own issues…..in other words…..MYOB….this is Ontario.
What many folks don’t believe in is when a small group creates problems where there are none. People who try to dictate how other provinces should be governed and try to change their laws when they don’t even live there and it doesn’t affect them personally. Another factor is the control attitude and the hatred towards the french and pamphlets that say how and why it should be abolished. The fact remains that this type of mentality divides a nation.
Wondering is Jurgen is an elected official? I doubt it….but just asking….
Piper, to answer your questions…….none were from Quebec.
Not calling you a name at all Stella, just stating the obvious. I am not the one that changes everyone’s blog name that I don’t agree with.
Quebec has a big effect on Ontario despite what you might think. I really can’t fathom to guess where you get your rationale…
Lecompte….. I hope taxpayers realize that this guy is the head of a francophone group and that WE provide him funding with OUR taxpayer dollars$$$$ A little off balanced in every way!!!!
There’s nothing better than the truth, well done !
Just in passing I noticed there wasn’t any English coverage on the news channels of Pauline Marois ‘s visit to France ! Why not ???
A HUGE thank you to Howard Galganov and Jurgen Vollrath for their passionate speeches last evening in Long Sault. We were honoured to have you both there to talk to the group!
Not sure what happened at the end, but a confused elderly man tried to “hi-jack” the end of the meeting. Only made a fool of himself and his francophone group.
The people that took the time to come listen and take part enjoyed a very informative evening. Hope to see you all out to support Howard in Glengarry Nov. 13th.
@ Richard Tremblay
Lecompte gets his thrills out of wasting people’s time and spewing ridiculous propoganda.
He knows how meetings are properly run and you follow the rules. Shame on him. LFA would never stoop so low in a “franco” meeting. We have better things to do with our time.
Oh Stella you really are naive when it comes to who gets the jobs. It’s not university degrees dear Stella, it’s whether or not you speak French…Capish. I could so easily prove this to you Stella.
The G, you spoke and were treated like a god. YOu left Québec in disgrace and now your looking to start trouble here. You have succeeded. Most see the game you are playing but to some You can do no wrong. Monsieur lecompte was simply making his point, wether you agree with it or not.
– Freedom of expression, I agree with it. MAIS, IL NE FAUT PAS DIRE N’IMPORTE QUOI.
So stella whats the issue with freedom of expression ?
Let the communities decide that its the owners business to put up whatever sign they want and in whatever language they want!
Soc :
Well said,what happens when freedom of expression is oppressed ,through either violence or by french famous “bigot” or redneck .
So calling someone a redneck or bigot or racist gives them the right to oppress freedom of speech?
So simply its easy to suppress a culture for asking questions by labeling them thereby suppressing freedom of speech.
How does that happen in our NOT so politically correct society !
By Mr. Jean Lecompte using the name ‘LFA’ and distributing these posters does this classify as a copyright infringement? Any lawyers present here that can help us out?
Hummmm, i wonder… Uhmmm… Let me see now…Where did all this — one language being the only language or being the dominant language that HAS TO BE “twice BIGGER” and more predominant on signs start anyways?” Anyone ? Yeah, I’ll tell ya where. In the land of “perceived entitlement” and “perceived countrydome.” Yup, the “province” of Quebec which BTW, is STILL ONLY just a “province” and NOT a country of its own.
That’s right folks… A “province” that SHOULD be forced to abide by the rules of “the country” within which it resides, just like every other province has to abide by the rules.
None should have “special status” or get “special treatment.” Just like when this is applied to children in a family setting. It creates anger and resentment.
Ah yes, that’s where I have seen this… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVXsudl-7NY
None should have “special status” or get “special treatment.” Just like when this is applied to children in a family setting. It creates anger and resentment.
Would like to add my congrat’s to Language Fairness for All, Howard Galganov, Jurgen Vollrath and all participants!
Even want to thank the heckler in the crowd, for demonstrating quite aptly just why we English must awaken and fight for our: language, rights, culture, heritage and symbols!
Well done:-)
Some people are trying to defend the undefendable …
Waist your time if you wish, but anyone who loves Canada or even anyone who has an ounce of compassion in them will not allow these injustices to continue…
They will not close their eyes and ears, nor will they shut up.
Canada is all about freedom and that freedom has been gradually taken away from us because of those who victimize themselves irrationally and who tend to forget that other people and other languages exist.
Respect was not invented by the Queen of England, as one French Quebecer stated.
” What many folks don’t believe in is when a small group creates problems where there are none. People who try to dictate how other provinces should be governed and try to change their laws when they don’t even live there and it doesn’t affect them personally”
Wow! You are 100% right! EXCEPT that the small group is the francophone minority. Shit hasn’t hit the fan yet in Ontario but here in NB its a different story. You don’t hear Anglophones whining and complaining for their own English speaking hospitals and schools while expecting the French facilities to be bilingual, you don’t hear the English having a say in the review of the official languages act..nope! ALL French being held behind closed doors to screw us over some more, you don’t hear of English people visiting Quebec and suing because they couldn’t order a coffee or be served in their language at the federal post office, you don’t hear of english refusing to reduce spending in a effort to reduce provincial debt even though the rest of the province has to comply and you DEFINITELY dont hear of them demanding every service/sign/job etc in the province have French first and more and more money be allocated to them for useless research projects to benefit themselves….nope! All of the above perfectly describes the French here. And that, is on top of their arrogant, cocky, the world owes me everything and im better than everyone else attitude they display in everyday life wether it be at the malls, while driving in their vehicles or while working and serving people in any language other than french.
Oh, by the way, you saying people move because that’s solely how its always been? I say bulls***. When every government and private job advertises as bilingual required and a overwhelming majority of people don’t fit that description because they haven’t been submerged in French language their entire lives and have the ability to learn it and your education and experience doesn’t matter (language is only requirement) then yes! The majority of people that move west from here are all English speaking. No jobs equals no choice. You need to come out from under your rock and LOOK at the other provinces problems before judging and trying to ruin Ontario like the politicians have ruined New Brunswick.
Time to cut all funding to these Francophone groups – a total waste of money! But, it seems that the only way they can keep their culture and language is through sucking the money from the majority of the Anglo population. And yes, Anglos must learn French so that when the racists from Quebec travel through Canada they can be spoken to in their Language. By the way, type in Language Police on a major search engine – seems that the only country that comes up is Canada and of course Quebec. Even in Russia and China there is no such a thing as language police. And this is supposed to be a free country. Quebec will never be bilingual; everyday the fanatics are working to push the English language out!
Sitting behind Lecompte is another Francophone group leader (female).Not sure if she had a role in the Lecompte presentation.
Jessie, I would consider moving to On if I were you. You are being treated badly in NB. If you moved here, the big g would take care of you and you would be much happier. It is the LFA, the g and their followers that are going to make history by dividing this country……don’t you want to be part of it?
Oh Stella get back to work you are wasting our taxpayers money to spread propaganda.
Funny how we are the ones that are creating division.
“Freedom of Expression” and our fight to entrench fairness is percieved as us “vicimizing ourselves irrationally”.
What do you people have against freedom of expression?
Rather than pointing fingers at us, why don’t you look inside yourselves and LISTEN to the reality and help us make it fair!
Where numbers warrant. Proportionate representation.
Aren’t these important criteria to have a proper balance that would have all parties happy?
This is not about being anti-anything. It is about our rights as citizens of a free and truly DEMOCRATIC society.
If you don’t believe in freedom of expression Stella then just say it. If you don’t believe the reality of what is happening then you are truly one of the uninformed.
If you are truly informed then you would join us to make things fair and just for ALL Canadians.
This is about all of us having equality and living in a country that honours fairness and balance.
We know, however, that the status quo is your path to forever being dominate and gauranteed the best employment opportunities while the majority sit at the back of a jam packed bus heading west.
The vitriol against those of us fighting for our rights should be directed at those that would take our rights away and those that have already done so.
Thanks to LFA for your courage and resilience.
@Jessie RE: October 18, 2012 at 9:56 pm POST
Hey Jessie. I see you quoted one of the infamous posters on here with this quote.
“What many folks don’t believe in is when a small group creates problems where there are none. People who try to dictate how other provinces should be governed and try to change their laws when they don’t even live there and it doesn’t affect them personally”
If you follow her posts (or look back at some of the older ones) you will notice that more often than not this poster say’s things that if you insert “the English” where this person say’s “the French” or apply the term “that group” to the opposite “group” to which she refers it usually fits to a T as to the unfair and unjust actions the French are carrying out against the English in this country.
Perfect example” She writes something like, “ g and their followers that are going to make history by dividing this country”
Yet, WE ALL KNOW it is the Francophones who are REALLY the ones who are doing things to divide this country. What with their ante English laws (bill 101) and the 3 or 4(?) attempts now at separation. And the Bloc Quebecqois, and their Anti monarchy stance and their Anti Canadian flag antics.
What’s worse and COMPLETELY CRAZY is … She seems to have NO CLUE that she does this.
It is so downright laced with so much irony that it’s almost unbelievable.
Now I am pissed and getting more pissed by the minute **smile**
Yep I have no clue whatsoever yorlik……totally clueless **s** The only thing I am not clueless about is your agenda. The only word that comes to mind when reading the so called “fairness” blogs is “trouble makers” plain and simple. Can’t seem to find a better description. Even when asking around the most popular answer………..”trouble makers”
See what i am saying Jessie? When you get responses like, “Now I am pissed and getting more pissed by the minute.”
The only words that come to my mind are,
“THE TRUTH HURTS” don’t it?
Yes, even when I ask around the most popular answer is,
“WE ALL KNOW it is the Francophones who are REALLY the ones who are doing things to divide this country.”
But, as usual, some people just ignore this “truth” and point to OTHERS at every turn and call them trouble makers and so on. I am actually surprised they have not brought out the old standard, “bigot” term yet(?).
That’s OK though Jessie. I KNOW that you (like the rest of us) have no trouble seeing right through this hypocrisy. 😉
I for one will not move. It is harder to fight unjust laws put in place than to fight them from going in, but we must. That is some of my reasoning behind communities that are or will be asked to accept a bylaw honouring the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Man ( woman in the courts too) made the rules. we can change them, with some will and support.
Now Stella once again you are at your government job posting propaganda on here as well as the freeloader .
The Question is does the government pay you for this as part of your work duties?
Here here Eric. I’m with ya.
Many things are in need of changing in this country and, as you say, “all we need is support.” We are the majority.
C’mon folks, let’s get together on this one…
Tell your friends, your neighbors, your hairdresser your accountant. Tell everyone… Help EVERYONE become aware.
The tide is indeed turning.
I thought I would share this little story with my english friends. Today, I ran into someone I have known for quite some time. This person worked at the same place for 20 years. After taking her alotted vacation time, upon her return, she was told, she was being let go……..she was french and replaced by an english person.
This is discrimination so I want to form a group called “FFFF” Fighting For French Freedom” She was discriminated against and replaced by an english person. We must stand up for her rights. NOT FAIR!!!! I will be picketing in front of the establishment in question and also accepting donations.
Now tell me…..how does that attitude sound? Isn’t it a bit over the top? She is dealing with it without trying to get an enitre community involved and blaming others for her demise. That is called maturity.
Stella if the person was actually fired because she was French I’d be the first one standing next to you to protect her. Frankly though you’re story sounds pretty fishy and funky darling….
Jamie……..I would love to name the establishment so you could investigate. But to give you an idea……no lawyer in Cornwall would take her case…..and that my wonderful friend is the truth so help me GOD. I may be a lot of things but a liar is not one of them
Jamie………I know you would stand up for her if the reason was language……I truly believe that. The worse part of the story is they did not have a valid excuse in letting her go.
What I forgot to say is that the new employee will be taking french courses at the college in the evenings.
Perhaps if some of your readers read this, they could vouch and acknowledge that is true.
Stella ,
I would stand with Jamie no one should hired purly on language .
Ok I will join You .
Where can we meet for a plan of action no one should be hired on language only.